Guerlain Vetiver edt--current, vintage, and "other"?

[The Knize]

I was going to post this question, then decided I was being lazy and it would be easy enough to figure out with a quick Google search. But I was wrong. It does not seem to be easy to figure out at all, unless I failed to find something obvious!

I could be wrong about the background, but my recollection is that Guerlain Vetiver edt originally came in a bottle shaped like the Habit Rouge bottle always has been. Forgive me for not inserting a photo, but the bottle was rectangular, longer vertically, with indented, square-cut type "panels." Then, again, as I recall, what I think of as the current vetiver bottle was adopted--say around 2000--more squat and squarish, with deep horizontal lines going across the entire face of the bottle.

I think Guerlain may have claimed at the time that there was no accompanying change in formula, but most smelled a distinct formula change around that time.

Thus, I would have thought that any Guerlain I saw for sale in the old style bottle was likely to be the old formula. Old stock, if you would. I had not heard anything about Guerlain shifting back to the pre-2000 bottle design.

However, I seem to be seeming in shops, at least those outisde the US, Guerlain for sale in the pre-2000-type bottle, as well as in the 2000-type bottle. Say in places such as airport duty free shops where I doubt that pre-2000 stock would be for sale.

Does anyone know what is going on? Did Guerlain change bottles and/or forumulas again? I suppose I should have been paying attention to the design of the boxes. I actually think the pre-2000-type bottles I saw came in green boxes, similar to what the 2000 bottles came in. I have a recollection that actual vintage Guerlain Vetiver may have come in a largely white box with black lettering.

Thanks! I would have grabbed a bottle if I were confident that it was the vintage juice, although I like the current version about as much as the vintage edt.

[Dennard]

I believe Vetiver was an edc first. Then all following formulas are edt. Yes, there was a bottle change around 2000 to the one with the horizontal frosted lines. I have tested it a few times and, to me, it is lighter on the vetiver and tobacco and has a more prominent citrus note. There has been a recent bottle change to one that looks more like the tall/narrow bottles they used in the past. However, I do not know if there is any difference in the formula of this latest version. Hope this helps.

[Matt555]

I have been wondering the same thing as once my decants run out, I think I will be buying bottle of both Habit Rouge and Vetiver. From my understanding, the most recent version of Guerlain Vetiver comes in the tall bottle which is very similar to the current Habit Rouge bottle. I was told that the square-ribbed ones were the last run. However, whether or not the juice is different between the square-ribbed bottles and the new tall ones, I still don't know.

[DukeGrad]

My friends

If you favor a vetiver, I recommend looking at Floris Vetiver (which is British). I found this by accident and really love it, it gets a big to do at Basenotes as well.This is the best vetiver out there, and is really nice. I am not a fan of the other British to include Geo Trumper, Taylor of Bond Street and Trufitt and Hill. Except Trufitt and Hill shaving, not colognes. A lot of chemicals and dyes in their products it seems.
I bought the old Habit Rouge in the 1970 time frame, and plan to get this scent as well.
I hear it is not the original version.
If these scents you favor, I recommend looking at Chanel "Antaeus", Lorenzo Villoressi which is the real stuff, no chemicals; all oils.He does an interesting cologne.
I am an old fan of these scents, and they seem to favor what you are looking for.You may find his Vetiver to your liking. He is a unique perfumer, does a really interesting cologne.
I also recommedn Santa Maria Novella for vetiver as well as Villoressi.

Also, check out Chanell Egoist, which Habit Rouge fans have come across , one I like .
The colgnes have a various first note, most of their base notes are Vetiver, Patchouley and Sandalwood. Which Habit Rouge fans go to.
Most of the Channel are not pure oils just so you know, so will see a difference if you seek LV, SMN.
The Guerllain Vetive was rated a hot hit all the time.
I, found Floris by accident, a 4-6 hour vetiver, instead of the Guerllain BTW.

Good luck
Jimmy

[crfcom]

I think, sometimes, we worry ourselves needlessly over formula changes, real or rumored. I just bought this fragrance after I sampled it and decided I liked it. Ran into the same issue with Eau Sauvage. At the end of the day, all that matters is if you like what you can buy enough to wear it. I don't care much what they used to do. If something you used to like has been changed, as the post above shows, there are still lots of similar choices.

[DukeGrad]

My friend.

When I see your cologne likes, you may want to look at a plain vetiver, patchouley, sandalwood also.Most of your likes, have these base notes.
In other words, you can hit a home run with a patchouley, or sandalwood, or vetiver which you found.
Most of the Habit Rouge and Guerllain types prefer thses base notes.
It makes it easier, And there is noting like the SMN Patchouley BTW.
It is pure patchouley

Nice day my friend
Jimmy

[StylinLA]

DukeGrad, isn't the Floris Vetiver discontinued?

[BRuhling]

Floris Vetiver is discontinued and good luck finding any of it! I can't seem to accomplish this feat...

As for the current stock of Guerlain, Channing, they have gone back to the original bottle design, but I don't know anything about reformulation.

[Oscroft]

The current Guerlain Vetiver bottle in the shops in the UK is this one...

[Austin]

The current Guerlain Vetiver bottle in the shops in the UK is this one...

That is the same bottle I bought in the 90's.

[The Knize]

That is the same bottle I bought in the 90's.

Seems odd doesn't it!! The vertically ribbed bottle had become rather iconic to my mind. I have a recollection that someone famous designed it and Guerlain made something of a big deal of it, when that bottle came out.

You guys are amazing! How come everyone seems to know about the switch back to the old bottle style but me? I did not find anything about it in a Google search. The on-line sellers seemed to have about 50-50 this bottle and the vertical ribbed bottle in their listings, and the brick and mortar stores I had been in seemed also about 50-50.

I think I have had at one time or other samples of virtually every formulation of Guerlain Vetiver. I cannot remember whether I actually have had the AS. I pretty much like them each and like having some of each around. I would also say that sniffed side by side the formula revisions are apparent. My nose is not necessarily so refined as to all scent-related matters, but as to Guerlain vetiver I would say that it is fairly refined. I am not saying that I could call out the formulation on a blind sniff! I had to say it because it is rare and dear these days, but the EDC might be my favorite. But still, all versions I have had are good, probably excellent.

And I agree that there are lots and lots of good vetivers in the world. "Similar" means different things in different contexts. I am not sure how many vetivers are all that close to Guerlain, at least to my mind. But I really like vetivers probably make some rather refined distinctions among them. I really need to try Floris Vetiver again.

I like patchouli, too. I need to try it again, but SMN is said to be holy grail patchouli!

Thanks everyone!

[Oscroft]

How come everyone seems to know about the switch back to the old bottle style but me?

Well, I bought one a couple of weeks ago

[Renato1]

I bought the old bottle 12 years ago of both the EDC and EDT, then bought the newer squarer bottle of EDT, and that bottle shape has subsequently been replaced with the older style bottle shape.

The old stuff EDT didn't last as long as what was in the newer bottle (5 hours vs 8 hours), and the newer bottle smelled somewhat greener.
Very curiously, the old stuff EDC, while not as strong as the then EDT, lasted heaps longer on me than the EDT did.
Regards,
Renato

[Oscroft]

The current Guerlain Vetiver bottle in the shops in the UK is this one...

And just to confuse things further, last weekend I revisited the store where I bought one of the above bottles a few weeks ago, and they now have it in this bottle...

[crfcom]

And just to confuse things further, last weekend I revisited the store where I bought one of the above bottles a few weeks ago, and they now have it in this bottle...

That's the bottle I got about a month ago.
I like the cologne inside which, I suppose, is what matters.

[Optometrist]

And just to confuse things further, last weekend I revisited the store where I bought one of the above bottles a few weeks ago, and they now have it in this bottle...

I bought one last week in York, and it was the taller bottle, not this one. I was told it was new packaging.

[tehtimmeh]

There was a thread on this at Basenotes not too long ago. I am pretty sure the consensus on the last bottle change was only that - a bottle change. It has not been reformulated again for the newest bottle (tall rectangular bottle) is my understanding.

[Matt555]

There was a thread on this at Basenotes not too long ago. I am pretty sure the consensus on the last bottle change was only that - a bottle change. It has not been reformulated again for the newest bottle (tall rectangular bottle) is my understanding.

In that case, if they are the same price, it would be best to go with the square bottle because they are 2.5 and 4.2oz where the new ones are 1.7 and 3.4oz.

[DukeGrad]

floris vetiver is not being made any more
For me the vetiver/patchouley/sandalwood in an EDt thise colognes we duscussed
I hit a himerun with LV a little cheaper than floris but natural.
He does an excting cologne to get to the note. Kind of like L occitane lavendar. If you try there is fire and pepper before the lavendar.
lorenzo V does these intristing beautys
For straight patch/ vetiver santa maria novella but expensive
I have her patch you have to read base notes. Smn get high hits for a pure patch
btw antaeus middle notes is patch and vitiver just got a bottle it is the new re make, not classic but not bad. I get vetivet long term
floris needs to be contacted they will redo stuff as before

I miss the floris vetiver!
Nice day gents