Joris/Fatip lovers reviews and pics thread!

[DEGuy]

^ I was going to use DE89 top head, but I remembered the 1904 sitting in a drawer. I measured, with a caliper, Fatip's head and the 1904's; the 1904 is quite close to Fatips, I'll post specs. I was going to use the top head from my DE89, but the 1904 measured closest to the Fatip top head.

The following measurements are as accurate as I could make and the only ones I was able to take with my ‘household’ calipers. I measured the depth of arc of both razors’ heads from the outside apex of the heads' arcs to the bases of the heads' arcs.

Tops of each razor’s head:
Fatip Grande: W .74” x L 1.605” x Depth of arc <.17”
Merkur 1904: W .75” x L 1.62” x Depth of arc >.18”

The blade alignment is pretty much automatic--it locks into place with no issues and aligns evenly. And I really like the 'rig' I set more than the standard Fatip.

[akira2a]

^ I was going to use DE89 top head, but I remembered the 1904 sitting in a drawer. I measured, with a caliper, Fatip's head and the 1904's; the 1904 is quite close to Fatips, I'll post specs. I was going to use the top head from my DE89, but the 1904 measured closest to the Fatip top head.

The following measurements are as accurate as I could make and the only ones I was able to take with my ‘household’ calipers. I measured the depth of arc of both razors’ heads from the (outer) apex of the heads' arcs to the bases of the heads' arcs.

Tops of each razor’s head:
Fatip Grande: W .74” x L 1.605” x Depth of arc <.17”
Merkur 1904: W .75” x L 1.62” x Depth of arc >.18”

The blade alignment is pretty much automatic--it locks into place with no issues and aligns evenly. And I really like the 'rig' I set more than the standard Fatip.

Well darn, I wish I had a 1904 OC top plate to try with my setup. The R89 top plate seems to work fine for mine but blades don't aligns automatically (like a Tech) so I have to play with it a little bit to get the blades setup right. after that it works fine but seems to be a little mild. I thought this razor was supposed to be aggressive but not as much as a R41.

Say can you try your DE89 top plate with your setup and report back on the differences between it and the 1904? More/less blade exposure? More/less aggressive? Thanks!

[DEGuy]

^ I just traded out the Merkur for the Jagger--they are close to identical: the Jagger measures W .75" x L 1.625" x Depth of arc >.18. Visually, blade exposure looks to be the same. The acid test might be to to shave with the DE89 top in place of the Mekur 1904 to see if there is a difference in feel. From the specs, they should feel the same.

I am going to shave with the Jagger top head tomorrow and see how it goes--it really should be fine. I really should have tried the DE89's head top to better match the Jagger barrel. I'll post my results tomorrow.

[akira2a]

^ I just traded out the Merkur for the Jagger--they are close to identical: the Jagger measures W .75" x L 1.625" x Depth of arc >.18. Visually, blade exposure looks to be the same. The acid test might be to to shave with the DE89 top in place of the Mekur 1904 to see if there is a difference in feel. From the specs, they should feel the same.

Again thanks.

[DEGuy]

^ Happy to help. This thread has helped me whenever I've asked for an assist--it's my honor to do the same for another.

[syngent]

back to the fatip after playing with my new G-Bar, and as much as i love the SEs i missed my fatip and tonights shave wass fantstic

[DEGuy]

^ Akir2a: I shaved with the Fatip with the DE89 head top and did notice s slight difference in the shave; I feel the 1904 head performed better by placing a slightly different pressure on the blade--this shave felt a little harsh as I think the blade edge gap felt a bit wider to me. Still got a good shave, but not as smooth as with the 1904 head top. I have sensitive skin so I do feel subtle differences in blade gaps--the minor additional difference in head-top width may have slightly opened the blade gap. The feel might be agreeable to some others, but I found it uncomfortable. If I can find a handle similar to the DE89 that fits the smaller lug/threads on Fatip's head, I'll likely buy it. Hope this helps.

[kingfisher]

DEGuy, I see that your measurements of the top plate make them seem identical, but the picture of your Frankenrazor makes it look like that head actually decreases blade exposure quite a bit.

That could explain why the razor seems tamer or less aggressive; the FaTip head gives plenty of blade exposure. It also bends the blade quite a bit. These are two of the features that pretty much make the FaTip what it is.

Explain to me again why you are not using the FaTip in its native state?

[DEGuy]

Kingfisher: The only reason I chose not to use my Fatip as sent from the factory is that I didn't like the lightweight handle and its length. But I realize to 'feel' the Fatip completely I have decided to buy a handle that fits my Fatip's head's lug. Thing is, it's a smaller size lug than found on many other razors, so I'll have to find a savvy seller to point me to a handle that will fit the razor's head. Your point is a good one and I believe that you're right in your observation.

[Triad]

Have you not seen the fatip thread alex started about what handles will fit the fatips?

[Winblows]

Kingfisher: The only reason I chose not to use my Fatip as sent from the factory is that I didn't like the lightweight handle and its length. But I realize to 'feel' the Fatip completely I have decided to buy a handle that fits my Fatip's head's lug. Thing is, it's a smaller size lug than found on many other razors, so I'll have to find a savvy seller to point me to a handle that will fit the razor's head. Your point is a good one and I believe that you're right in your observation.

You'll find almost everything about the subject here.

[DEGuy]

Winblows: Thank you.

[Johan]

Well i took a evening shave with the FaTip 1 hour ago. A experimental one because i dont have the plan to use it daily yet. But i think we can be friends!
Just 1 wtg with a new Shark ss gave me a quite decent shave and shows how extremly effective this razor really is! Its not love yet maybe but i like it quite much!

[DEGuy]

^ Indeed, from my two experiences only, the Fatip has to be wielded with care and mindfulness.

[OzoneAz]

I got a twit from Phil at bullgoose today that a new shipment of GOLD fatips are in. I had my fatip bulldog for less than a week and a handful of shaves but just had to order a gold one... Yes they are that good! I know aesthetically they don't get high remarks in the forums but I am curious to see how the gold looks.

If anyone is interested I will post pics when it arrives in a couple of days.

[Triad]

I got a twit from Phil at bullgoose today that a new shipment of GOLD fatips are in. I had my fatip bulldog for less than a week and a handful of shaves but just had to order a gold one... Yes they are that good! I know aesthetically they don't get high remarks in the forums but I am curious to see how the gold looks.

If anyone is interested I will post pics when it arrives in a couple of days.

Pics of a gold a few pages back in this thread they look nice!!
http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthr...thread!/page20

[akira2a]

^ Akir2a: I shaved with the Fatip with the DE89 head top and did notice s slight difference in the shave; I feel the 1904 head performed better by placing a slightly different pressure on the blade--this shave felt a little harsh as I think the blade edge gap felt a bit wider to me. Still got a good shave, but not as smooth as with the 1904 head top. I have sensitive skin so I do feel subtle differences in blade gaps--the minor additional difference in head-top width may have slightly opened the blade gap. The feel might be agreeable to some others, but I found it uncomfortable. If I can find a handle similar to the DE89 that fits the smaller lug/threads on Fatip's head, I'll likely buy it. Hope this helps.

Interesting...

Thanks for going the extra mile in answering my question.

[OzoneAz]

Thanks Triad, That looks sharp. I have seen stock photos but not personal. Can't wait!

[alex2363]

A few years ago a friend on another (non-shaving) forum and I spent a fruitless month searching for an EU vendor for Fatip razor. Last week I noticed shaviing.ie was carrying stock, though their P&P costs are a tad high, and I secured a Grande from a British eBay vendor. It arrived a few days later, but I had to put off using it for a few days as I was determined to give Merkur blades another chance in a 2009 Muhle R41.

Three disappointing shaves later I slipped a Timor blade into the Fatip, and lathered up with Cella. I'd never used Timors either but I was very pleased with the blade's smoothness on the first WTG pass, but even moreso starting the next (XTG) pass at the sideburn and finding so little stubble to cut. Aside from a little irritation left from the previous day, it was wonderful shave,

I've cast a few longing looks the way of Jorises before but the simplicity of the Fatip's design, as well the nickel sheen has won me over.

Fatip, Shave One: Fatip-ing the Scale

Are you kidding me? This razor is incredible! I have never had a so close a shave as with this Fatip. I felt I should be cautious, so I used an Astra SP blade in place of the Persona Med Prep I was going to use. I could hardly believe the stubble that was cleaved on the first pass, going WTG. My second pass was ATG and it felt great. The only facet of this razor I didn't care for was the feel with the light, short, and hollow handle. So, for the pickups I changed the top of the head and use the head top from a Merkur 1904 classic, the two head tops are dimensionally close; and screwed on a DE89 handle. I did the pickups with this setup and it improved razor feedback and control--just one guy's opinion.

I keep feeling my face because it's so smooth. I didn't get any cuts and no weepers. The razor simply did what it's supposed to do. Now I can understand the reason you guys feel the way you do about this razor. If the Joris can best the Fatip, it must be one super razor. For now, the Fatip is a razor I could use every day--but with a stable of smooth shaving Techs, I'll have to admix these razors into my schedule.

You guys are right--this is great razor. Thank you Joris-Fatip Lovers Club.

Forgot to mention that I found the Fatip's head to be very comfortable against my skin and not at all abrasive.

I continue to add to this post--mea culpa, guys. I have returned the original head top and handle to the Fatip. I want to find a longer/heavier handle that will fit the narrow lug and thread pattern on my Fatip. I'd appreciate your assist, yet again. Thank you.

Has anyone else noticed that if blow across the hole in the Grande's hollow handle it emits a piercing whistle? :)

^ I was going to use DE89 top head, but I remembered the 1904 sitting in a drawer. I measured, with a caliper, Fatip's head and the 1904's; the 1904 is quite close to Fatips, I'll post specs. I was going to use the top head from my DE89, but the 1904 measured closest to the Fatip top head.

The following measurements are as accurate as I could make and the only ones I was able to take with my ‘household’ calipers. I measured the depth of arc of both razors’ heads from the outside apex of the heads' arcs to the bases of the heads' arcs.

Tops of each razor’s head:
Fatip Grande: W .74” x L 1.605” x Depth of arc <.17”
Merkur 1904: W .75” x L 1.62” x Depth of arc >.18”

The blade alignment is pretty much automatic--it locks into place with no issues and aligns evenly. And I really like the 'rig' I set more than the standard Fatip.

thanks for the specs, i will put them in the FATIP Handles thread

[alex2363]

^ Happy to help. This thread has helped me whenever I've asked for an assist--it's my honor to do the same for another.

Brotherhood at its best