Thank you Chris. My somewhat foggy memory of the old Vitamix informercials also seemed to include them showing mixing hot soups and similar with it. Probably best to have both appliances in the long run. I was thinking of the juicer for making blackberry jelly this fall. You can make it with the seeds and pulp but those seeds are a real nuisance at eating time. Totally agree about using the pulp in smoothies and shakes.