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So shave three with the Semogue was today. Used MWF. while it is a stiff brush, I do not find the tips to be prickly at all. I like the brush, and finally got enough lather for four passes - by bowl lathering. Maybe that is the difference. Are there any Semogue 620 face latherers out there that get four passes without going back to the puck?
I do a max of three passes, but I'd always have enough for four with my 1438 (same knot).
In my experience, I'm not sure if any brush with a loft similar to the 620 (21/50mm) could hold enough lather for four passes, without going back to the puck or dipping into the extra lather in the bowl if bowl lathering. The lather on my third pass is quite thin when using a small brush if I don't take one of the steps I mentioned.
I never saw it as a problem, but I get the feeling we're going to see replies of others using 10/25mm knots and being able to generate enough lather for 8 passes...with so much extra they could shave their cat.
I can't get four passes out of my badger, but I suspect it's because I load it for about the same amount of time as my boars. (too impatient I guess)
This raises another question, how much lather is considered enough for one pass? I've seen pics of guys on these boards with their faces lathered up and it's so thinly applied, you can see the color of their skin and even some stubble through it. I wouldn't consider something like that enough lather for one pass, since I'd need 2 to 3 times that thickness for enough cushion. So their three passes would basically equal one of mine.
Last edited by Den; 06-25-2012 at 03:54 PM.
I should add that I love the feel of both of these brushes on my face, even new as they are not yet broken in.
Last edited by jwilock; 06-25-2012 at 07:33 PM.
I'm going on a 14 day vacation on Saturday and the brush I'm bringing with me will be the 620 along with an Arko stick, this should keep my technique up to date
I broke it in by hand lathering once or twice a day for about two weeks, and it worked out perfectly. The bristles split quite fast but the flow through took longer to get good.
I've got a warm and well ventilated bathroom, so the brush was dry even with a lathering twice a day.
I don't have anything but my perception of it, but it seems to me that the brushes I have hand lathered vigorously for two weeks, like the 620, gets softer tips and a slightly better flow through than the ones I have broken in by using them every other day for around a month.
And just to be fair; I don't always get four passes worth of lather when I face lather. Especially if the brush have been quite wet the water thins the lather after about two passes.
For me the diffrence is the soap. I can get 4 passes out of my 620 with some soaps but not others.
The key for me is to really load up the brush with soap and not release all of the lather on the first pass. I will redip the tips of the brush on subsequent passes to generate more lather. From time to time, I might have to hit the puck for a couple of seconds before the 3rd or 4th pass (I rarely see the need for more than 3 passes). I don't see a problem with reloading the brush, but I know some folks are hung up about how many passes they can get out of a brush while face lathering wihtout relaoding the brush.
Yes, it can release a lot of lather on the first application, but if I think it has released too much, I just pick some of it up in the brush again.
If you feel you loose too much hydration you could load the brush before you put it down instead of when you pick it up. The lather should keep your beard hydrated meanwhile (if I make sense here ).