What is the closest pure badger brush to a semogue 830 boar?

[Alejandro1969]

Does anybody have any insight on this. I like stiff brushes with smoothness and backbone. I love the 830 but would like a Semogue or even an Omega pure badger equivalent.
Rack your brains on this one gents and get back to me!

Thanks, A.

[Cheapogit]

Why?... (Well... Don't suppose it needs to be answered, but someone has to ask... ), if the 830 works so well, why had a clone of it in a different form...

[Alejandro1969]

Why?... (Well... Don't suppose it needs to be answered, but someone has to ask... ), if the 830 works so well, why had a clone of it in a different form...

Maybe you're right. I'll just forget the stinkin' badger!!!

[Kentos]

I think none. A badger with backbone needs to have a very low loft, be very dense, or both. There are brushes that work equally well, but won't feel like a boar, IMO. 2 band badger is more scritchy, from what I have read.

Hopefully some brush gurus will chime in.

[vferdman]

Does anybody have any insight on this. I like stiff brushes with smoothness and backbone. I love the 830 but would like a Semogue or even an Omega pure badger equivalent.
Rack your brains on this one gents and get back to me!

Thanks, A.

First, I am not sure Semogue or Omega make a pure badger brush, second, I am not aware of any pure badger brush that will be anywhere close in softness as your 830. I have a 1305 (same hair as 830) and two other boars, one Semogue 1470 and the other Omega 10275 and all three of my boar brushes are softer than any pure badger I have tried. It's just the nature of the (pure badger) beast. It's prickly. Boars are soft at tips. If you want a badger brush with good backbone and soft tips, try a two band (or finest) badger. I have a brush with a TGN finest and that is pretty good in backbone department. Still boars and badgers are different. Can't really compare them or try to match a boar brush to badger brush in attributes. I love badger brushes, and I love boar brushes. both for different reasons. Just remember, pure badger hair is prickly (mostly) and Semogue and Omega boars are soft.

[edgerunner]

Maybe a Vie-Long horse brush is what you need to try.

[Alejandro1969]

First, I am not sure Semogue or Omega make a pure badger brush, second, I am not aware of any pure badger brush that will be anywhere close in softness as your 830. I have a 1305 (same hair as 830) and two other boars, one Semogue 1470 and the other Omega 10275 and all three of my boar brushes are softer than any pure badger I have tried. It's just the nature of the (pure badger) beast. It's prickly. Boars are soft at tips. If you want a badger brush with good backbone and soft tips, try a two band (or finest) badger. I have a brush with a TGN finest and that is pretty good in backbone department. Still boars and badgers are different. Can't really compare them or try to match a boar brush to badger brush in attributes. I love badger brushes, and I love boar brushes. both for different reasons. Just remember, pure badger hair is prickly (mostly) and Semogue and Omega boars are soft.

I see. Thanks for that. I thought pure badger, being more expensive, would be softer than bristle! You learn every day!

[BallisticBurrito]

First, I am not sure Semogue or Omega make a pure badger brush, second, I am not aware of any pure badger brush that will be anywhere close in softness as your 830. I have a 1305 (same hair as 830) and two other boars, one Semogue 1470 and the other Omega 10275 and all three of my boar brushes are softer than any pure badger I have tried. It's just the nature of the (pure badger) beast. It's prickly. Boars are soft at tips. If you want a badger brush with good backbone and soft tips, try a two band (or finest) badger. I have a brush with a TGN finest and that is pretty good in backbone department. Still boars and badgers are different. Can't really compare them or try to match a boar brush to badger brush in attributes. I love badger brushes, and I love boar brushes. both for different reasons. Just remember, pure badger hair is prickly (mostly) and Semogue and Omega boars are soft.

http://search.westcoastshaving.com/b...O&sn=161304780

I count six

I'm too lazy to count through this:
http://www.omegabrush.com/english/da...co.php?macro=6
And see how many pures they have vs the other kinds. :P

[pipskicks]

I have a VDH Pure Badger (cheapie) and a couple of Boars that are cheap but they are all cheap and work very well. Both the boars I believe have softer tips to me, not by a ton, but a noticeably softer feel to the tips. The Pure DOES pick up soap a lot better than any better badger grade I've tried, but Boars still run king in that aspect and I try to use the Badger with creams and use the Boar to pick up the soap.

I have never tried the 830, nor have I tried an Omega or Semogue badger, but I think you have to look at the differences between Boar and Badger first. Then you might want to look at all the grades, especially if scritch is an issue then a higher badger grade will help.

[pipskicks]

I see. Thanks for that. I thought pure badger, being more expensive, would be softer than bristle! You learn every day!

One thing about Badger....MUCH less break-in time. For you, probably no biggie, but for a new DE shaver, they can get frustrated with the Boar and give up or write it off, so badger, even a low-grade, is usually safer for a new wet shaver.