Pink Slime

[jazzman]

Where is the outrage with chicken nuggets, hotdogs, and turkey bacon? Every one of those products have "mechanically separated" chicken or turkey products in them? This is no different.

I'm not outraged by those examples because I know what those products are. There's never been a mystery about what's in a hot dog; it's always been mystery meat. I eat them occasionally because I like them, and I know what they are. Chicken nuggets, turkey bacon, and other "parts is parts" commodities simply aren't on my menu because it's obvious that such stuff wasn't simply sliced off of a bird and I don't like them. But when I bought ground beef, ground sirloin, ground chuck, etc., in the supermarket, or ordered a burger at a restaurant, I was deceived into believing that that I was buying something that went straight from the animal to the grinder. If they had told me that it was more like a hot dog than pieces of beef that passed through a grinder, I would have been able to make an informed decision.

When the truth came out, no government action was needed. Supermarkets and other suppliers responded to consumer preferences. Good, old-fashioned capitalism.

[oc_in_fw]

Where is the outrage with chicken nuggets, hotdogs, and turkey bacon? Every one of those products have "mechanically separated" chicken or turkey products in them? This is no different.

Turkey bacon does outrage me- it doesn't have any pig in it

[Slash McCoy]

I don't eat nuggets. No turkey bacon for me, thank you. The only hot dogs I buy are Hebrew National. I'm not Jewish, but kosher dogs have a lot less of the more "exotic" parts of animals in them.

[global_dev]

I don't eat nuggets. No turkey bacon for me, thank you. The only hot dogs I buy are Hebrew National. I'm not Jewish, but kosher dogs have a lot less of the more "exotic" parts of animals in them.

i am with you slash... chicken strips, hebrew national dogs, and big fat slabs of applewood smoked bacon...

[professorchaos]

Jamie Oliver is a twit IMO.

If something is going to die to feed us, as little as possible of it should be wasted.

Pink slime is one thing ... but some of those parts of the animal we consider "exotic" are absolutely delicious when properly prepared. Grilled ox heart, pan fried calf liver with Madiera and mushrooms, deviled kidneys on toast ... mmmm.

[global_dev]

Jamie Oliver is a twit IMO.

If something is going to die to feed us, as little as possible of it should be wasted.

Pink slime is one thing ... but some of those parts of the animal we consider "exotic" are absolutely delicious when properly prepared. Grilled ox heart, pan fried calf liver with Madiera and mushrooms, deviled kidneys on toast ... mmmm.

i have no real personal opinion on jamie oliver himself, he seems decent, but just curious why you think he is a twit...

minimizing waste s a great idea, some ways to attain that.. not so great.

[noahpictures]

Watch "Food Inc" on Netflix. It talks about it and why it is needed, and how our food standards and subsidies in the US are all out of whack. Corn-fed, CAFO beef is a breeding ground for ecoli....

+1

[scottish steve]

I have genuine respect for Mr Oliver. He worked his butt off and didn't simply open up a few expensive restaurants and charge $200 for a plate of truffle risotto. His food campaigning and restaurant "15", as wel as his travels around Europe, show that his passion for food is real and that he want sothers to become aware of the importance of good food in their life. Any good chef knows how to prepare offal and he is no exception. Geting to grips with the food crisis we have is a big priority. Did you see the UK edition of school dinners, in which a few very troubled kids who had been declared "unteachable" suddenly started paying attention and learning things after they ditched the hyperprocessed "food"? So many people out there, and it's mostly poor people, have little idea what food is. My brother's girlfriend is a lovely girl, really nice person who had been good for him. But she has lived her life eating such low quality food that she is very overweight and more to the point, never eats vegetables or anything which looks like the animal it comes from. I remember once in my house she washed down "horrible" stir-fried brocolli with a slurp of Red Bull. She cannot be in a restaurant in which anyone is eating fish of any description. This is at least one really good thing about Chinese food culture. A couple of years ago I was invited to Christmas dinner by an English friend who is very established here, with a Chinese wife. The grandparents ate the turkey meat, then the grandmother hacked the carcass to bits and left the bones on a plate iin the middle of the table. All the older people spent 15 minutes getting very single piece of meat from that bird. No mechanical processing required and if prepared right those parts of the animal are very tasty. The trouble with many people is they want to divorce their food from nature- it's a perversion of natural law. Their bodies show this fact more than my rhetoric ever could
So now we have something like 30% of under-7s in The UK who are unable to use a knife and fork and think an egg comes from "Tesco".

[thatguy1807]

A product that has been in production for years has suffered from media hype. While nothing presented about the lean textured beef was untrue, the way that it was presented and labeled did it in. It is something that makes use of meat that would otherwise be wasted. And it still is 100% beef in the end. Chalk up a victory for the media. They have managed to create controversy where it didn't exist.

I 100% agree JP. I work in a meat market and not one of my customers in the 5 and a half years I've been there has been sick or had any type of negative effects from our pink slime ground beef. As a matter of, my boss just got back from a sales summit were they discussed LFTB and they told him and I can't find anywhere to prove this but a third party company did a test of a LFTB McDonalds hamburger. The results were surprising, the beef had significantly less ammonia thing anthing else in the hamburger. It's that dang PETA I tell ya!!

[oc_in_fw]

Jamie Oliver is a twit IMO.

If something is going to die to feed us, as little as possible of it should be wasted.

Pink slime is one thing ... but some of those parts of the animal we consider "exotic" are absolutely delicious when properly prepared. Grilled ox heart, pan fried calf liver with Madiera and mushrooms, deviled kidneys on toast ... mmmm.

I was with you until the mushrooms- vile, vile, vile IMO

[Slash McCoy]

Mushrooms? They are FUNGUS!

[Shave A Buck]

It goes way beyond Pink Slime which no one knew about untill this hyped story emerged. I too stay away from the processed meats and foods and have a hot or two a year at most.

Lets talk about name brand jarred fruit from China...If they are truly concerned about food safety then these people should be attacking the many, many foods in your grocery store that's now made in China. Take the time to read the labels.

Also think about your pets. If you won't eat processed foods and meats made for humans what do you think the quality is for pets. many of their treats and rawhide chews now come from China, one I found at Costco. A big bag of dried chicken meat chews that looked healthy for him till I read the label.

[professorchaos]

i have no real personal opinion on jamie oliver himself, he seems decent, but just curious why you think he is a twit...

minimizing waste s a great idea, some ways to attain that.. not so great.

Nothing specific, just an impression.

I was with you until the mushrooms- vile, vile, vile IMO

More for me!

[oc_in_fw]

More for me!

I will gladly let you have them When I was 4 or 5, my grandmother would fry them up and I would eat them in a sandwich. I don't know what happened, but once I hit 10 or so I couldn't stomach them- they will make me retch.

[oc_in_fw]

It goes way beyond Pink Slime which no one knew about untill this hyped story emerged. I too stay away from the processed meats and foods and have a hot or two a year at most.

Lets talk about name brand jarred fruit from China...If they are truly concerned about food safety then these people should be attacking the many, many foods in your grocery store that's now made in China. Take the time to read the labels.

Also think about your pets. If you won't eat processed foods and meats made for humans what do you think the quality is for pets. many of their treats and rawhide chews now come from China, one I found at Costco. A big bag of dried chicken meat chews that looked healthy for him till I read the label.

Oh, I do read the labels- if it is a product of China, it doesn't go in the cart. They are willing to poison their own people, why wouldn't they do the same to us? A problem in the future will be product labeling. They are fighting hard to get rid of the labels stating country of origin. As to fruits and vegetables, I get all mine at the farmers market. It cost a little bit more, but it is grown locally.

[Tekka]

The trouble with many people is they want to divorce their food from nature- it's a perversion of natural law. Their bodies show this fact more than my rhetoric ever could.

That is so true. I'll never forget the time I went to a birthday party of a friend of mine. He and his family are all MORBIDLY obese. We're talking 400+lbs. Anyway, the party was taking place at a seafood restaurant. My friend ordered this shrimp platter thing. When they brought out the shrimp his mother started freaking out and asking what was on his plate because she had no idea what was on there. The shrimp were cooked, but still had their heads and armor and legs on. She had been so removed what real food is for her 50 years of life that she had no idea what a shrimp looked like. She lives off of fast food and processed junk and thought all shrimp was just some battered and fried meat product. I don't think she knew it was an actual living creature.

The older I get the more I come across people like his mom who have no freaking idea what real food is or that it makes you healthier mentally and physically. What really gets me is when they start ranting and raving and screaming about how their diets are healthier than those of people who eat fresh veggies and fruit and meats and fish. They always make me believe that guys like the late Jack Lalanne need to be listened to more than ever, not the fatties who are going insane with rage and hate about healthy food.

[scottish steve]

It goes way beyond Pink Slime which no one knew about untill this hyped story emerged. I too stay away from the processed meats and foods and have a hot or two a year at most.

Lets talk about name brand jarred fruit from China...If they are truly concerned about food safety then these people should be attacking the many, many foods in your grocery store that's now made in China. Take the time to read the labels.

Also think about your pets. If you won't eat processed foods and meats made for humans what do you think the quality is for pets. many of their treats and rawhide chews now come from China, one I found at Costco. A big bag of dried chicken meat chews that looked healthy for him till I read the label.

I've had food poisoning twice in two years in China. Once from Walmart and once from a gourmet, Western-run burger resstaurant. Go figure.

[luvmysuper]

I've had food poisoning twice in two years in China. Once from Walmart and once from a gourmet, Western-run burger resstaurant. Go figure.

When in Rome...

The only times I ever got sick eating in China was at "western" restaraunts when people would visit and insist on having something familiar.
'course these were staffed by Chinese.
Chinese people excel at making Chinese food (real Chinese food, not the stuff westerners "think" is Chinese food), but they aren't the best at preparing western dishes in my experience.

FWIW, I don't eat Chinese food in the west, prepared by western people either.

[scottish steve]

I have had a bit of an education on Chinese food since coming here, but I still miss the Scottish versions from time to time. I had no idea that Sichuan food was so spicy! But I've also had things like meatballs which were rare in the middle and thought "what the hell" and not even had an upset stomach from something which would result in serious censure for any restaurant in the West. Ditto those fast noodle places which have a pot of stock boilng for hours soaking up the flavour from every single thing which has been eaten that day- delicious and safe as it's been boiled for hours, but not allowed in the West I don't think. But pink slime is. Many times I've had chicken which was running around just that day...and I do mean running around, with full luxurious feathers and grass to walk on. Of course, we're too "developed" for that.

[Legion]

Pink slime is a way of maximising the amount of edible product produced from each animal. There is nothing wrong with that. We live in a world where millions are starving. So what, we should waste perfectly edible animal parts because some people are squeamish? That seems ridiculous to me.

Pink slime is good for you. Puts hair on your chest. (Which may be due to all the hormones they pump into the cows, but that is another gripe entirely.)