Learned an Expensive Ebay lesson

[cb91710]

However, that doesn't disprove what the other person was stating. They all start the same, it's the additives and ethanol percentages and content which make each one differ.

Exactly... They all start with the same oil coming out of the same well and going into the same tankers.
But what comes out of the pump is very different, which is where the "all gas is the same" people are not correct.
California alone has at least 22 different fuel blends mandated by the CARB. That's why gas from one station might be $0.10 more than the "same gas" from the same station brand 1/2 mile down the road in a different city.

BTW, letting ethanol gas sit in small engines is very bad for them. drain them at end of season.

I mentioned that we did. Drain the tank back into fuel jugs, drain the carb bowl, then start the engine and run the carb dry, kick it over again, and repeat until there is no fire.
EVERY jet in my WR250F's carb was covered with a green "fuzz" Looked like green baby powder but it was on solid. Soaking in carb cleaner helped, but everything needed wire brushing and most of the jets ended up having to be replaced.
This happened twice on two bikes... Costco and Sam's gas.
We've never had a problem with Chevron.

[Blondie]

Dirty little secret is that ethanol as an additive is terrible. It tends to draw moisture from the air and cause corrosion in engines. I always use "stabil" additive which helps to counteract this effect. It is worse the more humid a climate you are in.

[Blondie]

Let's all be gents here. No need for tit-for-tat posts.

thank you.

--jim

Dang, what'd I miss!?!?

[BallisticBurrito]

Dirty little secret is that ethanol as an additive is terrible. It tends to draw moisture from the air and cause corrosion in engines. I always use "stabil" additive which helps to counteract this effect. It is worse the more humid a climate you are in.

Which is why I'm hoping my next vehicle will be FlexFuel capable..at least then the engine is designed to more handily deal with that crap.

[cb91710]

Which is why I'm hoping my next vehicle will be FlexFuel capable..at least then the engine is designed to more handily deal with that crap.

You don't want that either.
Not only is it a horrible additive, it is not a terribly efficient fuel.
Ethanol is stoichiometric at around 9.5:1, gasoline at 14.7:1
That means that if you had a flex-fuel engine capable of running E100, getting 29.4mpg on gasoline, it would only get 19mpg on E100.
It would also produce only about 75% of the power due to it's lower BTU content.

Alcohol is used for racing engines because of it's high octane... around 118... which allows for very high compression ratios and high boost levels from superchargers. This allows it to produce more power than a gasoline engine of similar displacement... but at the cost of a LOT more fuel.

Flex-fuel engines are built to handle the physical properties of ethanol, and to a degree, the increased moisture in the system, but when it comes to power output, all they can do is enrich the mixture, and make some minor timing adjustments to help offset the power losses.

[CrotalusHH]

It's out for delivery today. I hope I get a nice complimentary feedback anyway.

Ok, all the trucks get the gasoline from the same pipe. They go straight to the station and dump the tank. So where do all these fancy additives get put in? The truck drivers don't seem to know.

[gearchow]

It's out for delivery today. I hope I get a nice complimentary feedback anyway.

Ok, all the trucks get the gasoline from the same pipe. They go straight to the station and dump the tank. So where do all these fancy additives get put in? The truck drivers don't seem to know.

The additives get put in at the distribution point is what I read once. Here is some info. I read something like this a while ago and remember thinking "oh".

-jim

[cb91710]

The truck drivers don't seem to know.

It's not their job to know.
Their job is to pick up the fuel and deliver it to a specific station or stations.
They have no idea what is being put into that pipe that is loading their truck, and what valves are being operated between truck loads.

A couple of years ago, one of the oil companies paid out some pretty big claims when Diesel was accidentally put into the gasoline tanks at a number of stations in the Los Angeles area.
Think the truck driver(s) knew what was coming out of that pipe?


It's not like a steam engine taking on water where they pull up to the tank, pull a chain, and it dumps.

[CrotalusHH]

I am more of the opinion that the truck driver doesn't know because it isn't true.

The additive claims are just smoke and mirrors and not there at all.

[Go West Young Man]

Dude, the gas companies ADVERTISE about specific additives making their brand better. You think the FTC would let them do that if it weren't true?

[gearchow]

Old Style info:

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/autos/gasol...rt1/index.html

-jim

[CrotalusHH]

Dude, the gas companies ADVERTISE about specific additives making their brand better. You think the FTC would let them do that if it weren't true?

Well, look at what the FTC lets the food people get away with. Have you EVER gotten a sandwich at Subway with 50% of the meat shown in the pictures?

The FTC is a joke. They don't test gasoline's for tiny additives.

[GreekGuy]

What does the FDC, Ethanol, and gasoline have to do with learning an expensive eBay lesson?

I'm all for conversation, but this thread isn't the place for such topics

[CrotalusHH]

Hey, why not? I started this thread.

[insomniac]

Meanwhile, back in shaving land...

CroatlusHH, I think the point is that even if you don't feel much of a difference between grades of badger, others do, and the others are the ones who would be buying your brush. If you want to help recoup your costs on ebay or even here for future brushes, mentioning the knot maker/size/loft will only help increase the price, and doing some research to find out which grades shavers generally prefer will help even more. Good luck!

[CrotalusHH]

I don't think anyone ever mentioned where Larry's knots fit into the mix.

[insomniac]

I don't think anyone ever mentioned where Larry's knots fit into the mix.

I haven't used one of his knots myself; they are supposed to be pretty good. You might want to try the Brush Making/Restoration forum, they are the experts. I just use brushes

[cb91710]

I haven't used one of his knots myself; they are supposed to be pretty good. You might want to try the Brush Making/Restoration forum, they are the experts. I just use brushes

I've got one of his Silvertips.

Is it the same as the D01 Shavemac? Not by a long shot. It is much softer.
How does it compare to my Simpsons? I like it better than the Commodore and 56. It probably sees about equal use with the Rover.

And the Rover was $100+.
Larry's was under $30 with the Firehouse handle.

[global_dev]

I've got one of his Silvertips.

Is it the same as the D01 Shavemac? Not by a long shot. It is much softer.

Rich,
Can you clarify? I haven't tried either and am not clear on your use of "it". which is much softer?

[Blondie]

Rich,
Can you clarify? I haven't tried either and am not clear on your use of "it". which is much softer?

"It" is referring to the whipped dog knot, I believe.