Ummm... guys? Did I just win eBay?

[ERVARGASNY]

Nice, Amazing looks like the Razor Gods have chossen you to save those razors Especially the Double Ring :o) Excellent Job McDaddy.

[ironfist]

Very nice :)

[Red-Leg]

I hesitate to ask, but, um......, how much did you pay for the lot?

His auction link shows he paid $82.10, delivered, for the lot.

[72plymsatellite]

i was ging to bid on tha too but i fell asleep. i saw it and knew what it could be. sleep failed me

[stmaryja]

I hesitate to ask, but, um......, how much did you pay for the lot?

He linked to the closed listing which shows the winning bid.

[Haggises]

Since nobody else answered the question......

Yes you did.


Shut er down folks and lets see who comes in first on etsy.

[jbradley]

Since nobody else answered the question......

Yes you did.


Shut er down folks and lets see who comes in first on etsy.

Dang, I was watching a couple of items! Great catch on the Double Ring.

[celestino]

Congrats! Great looking razor!

[Chester]

So the thing I find most impressive is that the teeth on the double-ring appear to be straight.
Well-done!
-- Chet

[alex2363]

This doesn't seem like the sort of thing that could have been an operator error. The upside-down inscriptions like Robin's or something like a double strike are more up that alley. But I don't see how a different inscription in an entirely different type face could have been anything but intentional.



It's entirely speculation (and perhaps a bit of wishful thinking), but this is sort of the direction that I'm leaning just from a logical standpoint. It would seem odd for Gillette to have started stamping the larger "PAT. APL'D FOR" style, then change to this smaller style, and then return to the larger style again at least by the time they began serial numbering. It's much simpler to think that this was an earlier form of the inscription, and that they changed to the larger, longer inscription at some point early on. Occam's Razor, and all that...

I see your point of view Porter, and it is viable, even if it was then why have we seen only one? wouldnt there be more out there and as the worlds number 1 shave site wouldnt somebody already have brought that out to attention? Many times in the past we have had Gillette errors even if it was not obvious or intentional ones, this could have been a technical error such as machine or factory management associated error, rendering this razor a possible rarity.

[Copierguy]

It's entirely speculation (and perhaps a bit of wishful thinking), but this is sort of the direction that I'm leaning just from a logical standpoint. It would seem odd for Gillette to have started stamping the larger "PAT. APL'D FOR" style, then change to this smaller style, and then return to the larger style again at least by the time they began serial numbering. It's much simpler to think that this was an earlier form of the inscription, and that they changed to the larger, longer inscription at some point early on. Occam's Razor, and all that...

I’ll speculate as well that it makes most sense that your small print would be at the beginning rather than say in the middle of a model’s production. A story could be told the other way but it would need more (ifs and ands)

But looking at the photos posted here in the thread, it does look like the percentage of space used (height of text) changed through time. My no serial number says “PAT.APL’D FOR” , the band being about 5mm and the text is about 2mm or about 40%.


A seconded observation is that the period after “PAT” is used as much as a spacer as a period on all of them and they also all use a space before “FOR”.


Big time congrats McDaddy. That is one heck of an interesting score.

[IronHammer]

BRAVO Porter! Congrats on a most excellent score!!!!

[dgilman]

While only speculation, it does seem like the best guess. That would make yours the "ground zero" of the Double Rings found to date...... so I vote we call yours the "MacDaddy GrandDaddy Double Ring".

I like it, I like it.

Oh, and Porter? I mean what I'm about to say in the nicest, most admiring way: YOU MAKE ME SICK.

[tootootni]

Very nice! I believe you are what some call an "Eagle Eye". This has made my day.
David

[MacDaddy]

But looking at the photos posted here in the thread, it does look like the percentage of space used (height of text) changed through time. My no serial number says “PAT.APL’D FOR” , the band being about 5mm and the text is about 2mm or about 40%.

One thing I've noticed, looking through all the old photos of Double Rings I could turn up, is that the size of the smooth bands at either end of the handle seem to vary quite a bit in the earliest ones, particularly up at the top end. From the examples available, it seems to snap in to a much more consistent balance fairly early into the serial numbering cycle, as though they hit on some refinement in their knurling process as they went along

A seconded observation is that the period after “PAT” is used as much as a spacer as a period on all of them and they also all use a space before “FOR”.

It does look like there might be a period after "PAT" in my inscription here. It's possible that it's also just a byproduct of the enhancement I did to that photo to get the letters to be visible. I don't have anything like a jeweler's loupe, but I can probably dig up a magnifying glass somewhere. It's darned impossible to make out in person without magnification. There's also a second dark spot after the "AP" in the photo that I think probably just a spot, but could possibly be a second period.

[huck1680]

Well done, really well done!

[IronHammer]

I thought it might be helpful to throw my DR into the mix for size comparisons. It reads "PAT. APL'D FOR" and also has serial number 10190. I have been experimenting on ways to get clearer closeup with my Kodak C613 digital. It only does auto-focus so it can be real tricky to get it to focus. But I think I have figured out the secret.

[highball]

Amazing score, the "PAT" script is different or placed different on all of my double rings. My PAT. APL'D FOR with no ser# is also stamped upside down

[alex2363]

Amazing score, the "PAT" script is different or placed different on all of my double rings. My PAT. APL'D FOR with no ser# is also stamped upside down

So there is no final conclusions?

[Domminigan]

Without either documentation or ability to exactly date the first of the razors coming out of the Gillette company, we may never know the miniscule differences and why/what order they took place. It's also possible that some of the razors are counterfeits.