Chinese hone - Easy to raise slurry?

**kjparker** · 04-23-2012, 08:15 PM

I just had my chinese hone arrive today. Have it out on my desk right now.

I was on the phone idly moving the slurry stone around, not even applying any pressure, and a fine whiteish powder started appearing. I immediately of course put a little bit of water on there from my water glass, and saw that it was remarkably easy to get a slurry going with my stone.

Is this normal? I had been expecting this stone to be quite hard, and difficult to raise a slurry on....

My stone also despite not being lapped appears to be remarkably flat when a straight edge is placed across it at varying angles and locations

**hig789** · 04-23-2012, 08:25 PM

If it is not lapped than it will be very easy to raise a slurry. I would lap it no matter how flat it looks. If it is indeed flat you didn't lose much time. I haven't used mine in a while but you have to rub prettty hard on mine to raise a slurry. I do it when it is wet too. Don't know that it matters.

**Earcutter** · 04-23-2012, 08:29 PM

Sorry what you say? I can't get past the photo in the background lol.

sorry

**kjparker** · 04-23-2012, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by Earcutter

Sorry what you say? I can't get past the photo in the background lol.

sorry

You mean this?

I found an app that allows me to use my Ipad as an additional screen on my desktop.

Quite handy....

**Earcutter** · 04-23-2012, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by kjparker

You mean this?

I found an app that allows me to use my Ipad as an additional screen on my desktop.

Quite handy....

Yeah that's the one - i can't stop looking at it! There's something I kind of like about it! Thanks for the full-screen lol!

Clearly you have the same issue or you would have some data or something useful on your second screen lol - cool app though!

**kjparker** · 04-23-2012, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Earcutter

Yeah that's the one - i can't stop looking at it! There's something I kind of like about it! Thanks for the full-screen lol!

Clearly you have the same issue or you would have some data or something useful on your second screen lol - cool app though!

Actually, it's a third screen......

I had something on there, but took it off for the photo. It's one of the windows 7 default wallpapers

**Earcutter** · 04-23-2012, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by kjparker

Actually, it's a third screen...... show off lol

I had something on there, but took it off for the photo. It's one of the windows 7 default wallpapers

cool thanks.

If I could get my 3 yr old to give me back my Ipad i might give it a go lol. S

Anyway, sorry for the highjack! As for your stone question - it could be because it's new and not polished - that would be my guess - Like HIG said, I would lap it down BUT, i don't know as I have never owned one. Good luck!

**Earcutter** · 04-23-2012, 11:14 PM

Here is a review - the discussion thread may help too.

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthr...-Natural-Stone

Hope it helps.

**kjparker** · 04-25-2012, 08:20 PM

well, after hitting it with the 400grit wet and dry, I can honestly say that the slurry is now hard to raise.

The stone was flat, it just wasnt smooth.... It's actually a very pretty stone when wet! :)

**hig789** · 04-25-2012, 08:47 PM

Yeah now that sounds more like it. It takes some elbow grease to raise a slurry on mine. I agree mine is very pretty when wet too.

**slantai** · 04-26-2012, 03:02 AM

once flattened it is difficult to get a slurry.... i found that rubbing it on the side that's not flat, and pulling the slurry to the flat side, makes the it quicker

**PapaFish** · 04-26-2012, 07:26 AM

Mine raised a slurry easy when I first got it. Then I flattened the stone and slurry stone, and it was really difficult. Then I lapped both of them up to 1200 grit, and it was all but impossible to raise even a very weak slurry on the face of the stone. If I NEED a slurry, I raise it on the side of the stone (which is also lapped, but easier to raise a slurry on) and transfer it to the top.

**Krodor** · 04-26-2012, 08:28 AM

How the heck do you guys keep from making these dang white tiny scratches on the lapped surface? Every time I've tried to make slurry, I end up with a few scratches in the surface that then take a long time to lap out. I've tried twice, it's happened twice, and now I don't wanna use my CNAT due to frustration. Rinse the heck off it, chamfer the edges and corners of both the slurry stone and main stone, and still something gets caught and scratches it. Seems like bringing slurry off the side would rally increase the chances of dinging up the front.

**PapaFish** · 04-26-2012, 08:56 AM

Ha! I get those scratches too! The last time it was a good size chunk, when I was REALLY grinding hard on the surface (trying to raise a slurry), and I put a REALLY deep scratch in the surface of JUST my main stone... I haven't even tried to lap it out, it's going to be worse than when I lapped it... Plus, it still works with the scratch, I just need to avoid putting a toe or heel into the scratch, or that could screw things up good.

**Puerco** · 04-27-2012, 01:27 AM

Make sure your slurry stone is smooth and has chamfered edges. Rub it lightly across the surface, no pressure. It's not like a Coticule where only a few swipes are enough, you really have to work it for a couple of minutes to get a slurry going. You can also use one of the (rounded!!!) edges to speed it up a little but NEVER use pressure, same goes for JNATs.

**Kentos** · 04-27-2012, 01:35 AM

+1
With my jnat-

It takes some practice, but if you use light presure on the corner of the slurry stone it should slurry without scratching. When the slurry stone cuts through the surface tension of the water you will feel the slight abrasive sensation.

**PapaFish** · 04-27-2012, 07:44 AM

Hmmm... I may have to try some of the "long duration / light pressure" action. I really have nothing to lose on mine, afterall, it needs lapped.

**Earcutter** · 04-28-2012, 08:46 AM

What about using a fine DMT? The guys in the review I posted seemed to think that was the way to go. Moreover, wouldn't that serve two uses? You would be lightly lapping it every time you rose a slurry?

Or maybe this - http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/200...-x-78-x-3.aspx

**PapaFish** · 04-28-2012, 09:25 AM

Well, a person could use a DMT to raise a slurry, but as far as lapping goes, once the stone is lapped, it's pretty well lapped. The CNat is a VERY hard stone, and it's been said that "it never needs re-lapped", or at the very least, it should be a LONG time between lappings. However, in my case, it would be nice, since I have a lot of lapping to do :)

**Skrymr** · 04-28-2012, 10:21 AM

Both sides of mine are lapped flat. I use a diamond card to raise a slurry on one side of mine, and it does leave very fine scratches. But they don't interfere with honing, yet... I use the other side of my hone, which is still very smooth, for final finishing without slurry. I'm thinking about cutting about an inch off the end of mine for a slurry stone to see if that will not leave such scratches.