View Poll Results: Which one is the JNat edge?

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    Default JNat edge?

    One of these edges was honed on a JNat, the other on 1um lapping film with a 0.5um diamond/chromox SynthSlurry.

    Both are GDs.

    There is some lighting variation, as one of the images was taken some time ago, and lighting differences plays a key part in actually seeing "what is what", but I felt these two edges were visually pretty similar.
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    Additional info:



    Here's a look at the surface of a tomo nagura slurry stone, (I updated this)

    And the 1um lapping film
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Jnat slurry stone.jpg   alumox 1um.jpg  
    Last edited by Seraphim; 04-25-2012 at 08:28 AM.
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    I voted, can't wait till the reveal.

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    I voted. If I'm right do I win a GD?

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    Wow! What über-honemeister did that jnat edge?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obiwan View Post
    I voted. If I'm right do I win a GD?
    No, that's going to be a different thread someday....
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    This was too easy :P

    Did you shave with them too?

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    I'd say B based on the coarser scratch pattern and the nagura, but if that's in fact the case, I'd also say that a finer finisher would equalize the story...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kentos View Post
    Wow! What über-honemeister did that jnat edge?!?
    Did he finish with that nagura, or something else?
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    He finished with mini back and forth heel to toe motions on water...maybe he needed to do more, but the Iwasaki method calling for 10-15 minutes of that was too much for his ADHD, and someone didn't want any cubic moron spray finishes.
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    BTW that edge was a guinea pig test to see how Iwasaki's method looks under your scope. So far it gives that über guy pretty nice shaves.
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    So, yes, edge B was the JNat.

    The challenge is for me to try and recreate that same kind of edge using synthetics.
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    Here is an abomination:

    A tomo nagura on 3um lapping film!


    Oh, the humanity!



    The edge looks pretty crummy...

    I'll keep working on it.
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    Ouch! My bad dude...use the larger flats!! The thinner sides are exterior rock that I smoothed down on a DMT. No wonder it won't work. The light green area are what you want slurry from.
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    So much for my Uber-meister badge.....
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    maybe rub two tomonagura together to slurry, and put that slurry on the film, and then hone?

    Theory - the slurry from the tomo off the 1 um film, even if you use the right side of the Nagura, might not be as fine as it would be it was generated on an Awasedo.
    The slurry breaks down - but only to a point,,,so maybe if you start the slurry finer, you can go further.
    I don't know... just thinking out loud here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamma View Post
    maybe rub two tomonagura together to slurry, and put that slurry on the film, and then hone?

    Theory - the slurry from the tomo off the 1 um film, even if you use the right side of the Nagura, might not be as fine as it would be it was generated on an Awasedo.
    The slurry breaks down - but only to a point,,,so maybe if you start the slurry finer, you can go further.
    I don't know... just thinking out loud here...
    +1, that makes a lot of sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamma View Post
    maybe rub two tomonagura together to slurry, and put that slurry on the film, and then hone?

    Theory - the slurry from the tomo off the 1 um film, even if you use the right side of the Nagura, might not be as fine as it would be it was generated on an Awasedo.
    The slurry breaks down - but only to a point,,,so maybe if you start the slurry finer, you can go further.
    I don't know... just thinking out loud here...
    The JNat edge (B) is at about the refinement level I see for between 1-3um lapping film. I think creating a slurry at the 1um level is pretty refined. I even gave 0.5um a whirl, but nothing conclusive yet.
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    I hear what you're saying, but I'm thinking that the abrasive particles in the film might not be abrading the stone the same way another stone would.

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    I updated the pic showing the correct side of the slurry stone.
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