Recommend a good natural toothpaste?

[cluelessdude]

Just used Jason and it's nice! Kind of feels like I didn't brush my teeth though as all the unnatural toothpastes overdo the mint flavor. I'm sure my teeth are clean though right? lol

What are the pros/cons of the thick toothpaste such as Jason though?

[DeusVult]

Another vote for Nature's Gate; my flavor is creme de mint. No fluoride. Don't drink soda and a bunch of sugary stuff and you won't need any fluoride. I haven't used fluoride-containing toothpaste for years. I don't drink fluoridated water either; never have. I really just brush my teeth for cosmetics and fresh breath. Most people get too much fluoride in their diet. As a toxicologist, I pay attention to this sort of thing. Yes, I am one of those weird fluoride haters.

[cluelessdude]

I still don't understand if fluoride is good or not.

[DeusVult]

Here is my take on fluoride. Fluoride is not an essential trace nutrient or anything like that. It was recognized, many years ago, that dental caries (cavities) were less prevalent in areas where ground water naturally contained higher concentrations of fluoride ion. With this epidemiological data, fluoridation of water was promoted. However, too much fluoride can cause fluorosis, which is decidely not good. Now, the question to be asked is if topical application of fluoride or systemic (ingested) fluoride availability is the cause of less cavities. The scientific evidence seems to indicate that only topical (toothpaste) fluoride is effective in preventing cavities, and then, only on flat surfaces of the teeth. The depressions in one's molars aren't less likely to get cavities with the use fluoride. There is a ton of discussion on the nets about this.

My opinion, fluoride is a poison. Doubtless, someone will quote Paracelsus, the original toxicologist, and say "the dose makes the poison". That is true, but for fluoride, my professional opinion is that fluoride is dangerous. The stuff they dump in drinking water is not pharmaceutical grade fluoride anyway; it's a by product of another industrial process. The fluoride in toothpaste is normally sodium fluoride, and hopefully has a high purity. And, as I said above, cavities are not the result of a lack of fluoride. Cavities are the result of eating too damn much sugar, which allows bacteria to eat away one's teeth by an acidic corrosion. Fluoride only makes the corrosion more difficult. One might as well paint his teeth with some sort of plastic (oh, they do this too). Why not just eat a traditional healthy diet and reap benefits beyond not having cavities?

[mmack66]

Here is my take on fluoride. Fluoride is not an essential trace nutrient or anything like that. It was recognized, many years ago, that dental caries (cavities) were less prevalent in areas where ground water naturally contained higher concentrations of fluoride ion. With this epidemiological data, fluoridation of water was promoted. However, too much fluoride can cause fluorosis, which is decidely not good. Now, the question to be asked is if topical application of fluoride or systemic (ingested) fluoride availability is the cause of less cavities. The scientific evidence seems to indicate that only topical (toothpaste) fluoride is effective in preventing cavities, and then, only on flat surfaces of the teeth. The depressions in one's molars aren't less likely to get cavities with the use fluoride. There is a ton of discussion on the nets about this.

My opinion, fluoride is a poison. Doubtless, someone will quote Paracelsus, the original toxicologist, and say "the dose makes the poison". That is true, but for fluoride, my professional opinion is that fluoride is dangerous. The stuff they dump in drinking water is not pharmaceutical grade fluoride anyway; it's a by product of another industrial process. The fluoride in toothpaste is normally sodium fluoride, and hopefully has a high purity. And, as I said above, cavities are not the result of a lack of fluoride. Cavities are the result of eating too damn much sugar, which allows bacteria to eat away one's teeth by an acidic corrosion. Fluoride only makes the corrosion more difficult. One might as well paint his teeth with some sort of plastic (oh, they do this too). Why not just eat a traditional healthy diet and reap benefits beyond not having cavities?

I agree with this post.

[cluelessdude]

Here is my take on fluoride. Fluoride is not an essential trace nutrient or anything like that. It was recognized, many years ago, that dental caries (cavities) were less prevalent in areas where ground water naturally contained higher concentrations of fluoride ion. With this epidemiological data, fluoridation of water was promoted. However, too much fluoride can cause fluorosis, which is decidely not good. Now, the question to be asked is if topical application of fluoride or systemic (ingested) fluoride availability is the cause of less cavities. The scientific evidence seems to indicate that only topical (toothpaste) fluoride is effective in preventing cavities, and then, only on flat surfaces of the teeth. The depressions in one's molars aren't less likely to get cavities with the use fluoride. There is a ton of discussion on the nets about this.

My opinion, fluoride is a poison. Doubtless, someone will quote Paracelsus, the original toxicologist, and say "the dose makes the poison". That is true, but for fluoride, my professional opinion is that fluoride is dangerous. The stuff they dump in drinking water is not pharmaceutical grade fluoride anyway; it's a by product of another industrial process. The fluoride in toothpaste is normally sodium fluoride, and hopefully has a high purity. And, as I said above, cavities are not the result of a lack of fluoride. Cavities are the result of eating too damn much sugar, which allows bacteria to eat away one's teeth by an acidic corrosion. Fluoride only makes the corrosion more difficult. One might as well paint his teeth with some sort of plastic (oh, they do this too). Why not just eat a traditional healthy diet and reap benefits beyond not having cavities?

Well if that is the case I don't care if there is flouride or not in my toothpaste. I'm just glad there isn't any SLS in Jason's toothpaste.

[Bengal Tiger]

I started using some organic neem and pomegranite toothpaste and like it. Its an interesting taste and smell. My teeth feel pretty clean. There's no fluoride or SLS. The brand is Himalaya.