Brotherhood of the Open Comb

[alex2363]

NOTE: These listings will change daily please see end of thread for updated list. So far this is the latest findings as of August /11th /2012....

1) Fatip Grande Nickel :

Do fits : 1) Tradere, 2) Edwin Jagger DE89 , 3) Gillette Fat Tech handle, 4) Gillette New Comb, 5) Weber Bulldog, 6) Weber classic, 8) UFO-Godzilla 9) Parker 91r
10) Parker 48r 11) Ikon Bulldog ( some members say it fits)


Do not fit : Ikon Bulldog, Muelle R41
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2) Fatip Piccolo :

Do fit: 1) Weber Bulldog handle, 2) Tradere, 3) Ikon OSS , 4) UFO Kaiser, 5) Feather AS D1, 6) Gilette New Fat Handle, 7) Gillette Fat TEch Handle, 8) Parker 98R
- Fits Piccolo

100mm long & 90 grams in weight
Do not fit: 1) Mariner long handle, 2) R41 Grande handle, 3)Ikon Bulldog, 4) EJ DE89
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3) Fatip Grande Chrome :

Do fit: 1)Bob Razor Works Deluxe XL, 2)Weber Bulldog, 3) Ikon Bulldog, 4) Tradere (many members say it fits), 6) UFO-Godzilla, 7) 7 oclock,
8) Gillette New OC, 9) LC ball end gold plated (GB) 10) Gillette Old OC ball end silver plated (US), 11) Gillette Old OC short travel handle (US), 12) Gillette Tech slim handle (fat alike) (GB), 13) Gillette Tech straight aluminium, 14) Lord L6 , 15) Mercur 985CL (2 piece travel handle), 16) Parker 98R 17) BRW Bull Mastiff Deluxe - (Fits. Starts loose, but tightens up sufficiently, 18) 98R Heavy Duty Premium Barberpole, 19)


Do not fit : Tradere Handle(on some, many do fit)
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4) Fatip Grande Gold :

Do fit : 1) Feather AS, 2) BRW Bull Mastiff Deluxe / Fits. Starts loose, but tightens up sufficiently, 3)



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***Handle and FATIP Razor specs Section***:


Razor Specs:

1) Fatip Grande Nickel ( Thread 4.35) W .74” x L 1.605” x Depth of arc <.17”

2) Fatip Piccolo :

3) Fatip Grande Chrome ( Thread measure 4.38mm)-Screw: 4.36 MM width : 14.05mm length

4) Fatip Grande Gold :


HANDLES SPECS:

1) Tradere ( head 4.80, WT 66 gm)

2) Edwin Jagger DE89 ( threads 4.89mm)- whole razor Weight = 76g

3) Gillette Fat Tech handle
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4) Gillette New Comb- Gillette Bar Handle/SC New =WT 20.4/ - Gillette Ball Handle /LC New = WT 24.7

5) Weber Bulldog (needs 2 extra turns for fit), 2.4 ounces / 3 inch long /

6) Weber classic- wt 58 gms .........Weber New Classic -wt 76 gms

7) Ikon Bulldog,

8) Ikon OSS [head 4.85- wt 100 gms - 95mm long - 12.25mm diameter] (works but is loose until the final turn) ,

9) UFO Kaiser (polished SS, 100mm lg, 13mm diameter, 91 grams wt)

10) Mariner long handle

11) R41 Grande handle ( whole razor WT 35.5)

12) Bob Razor Works Deluxe XL,

13) Feather AS. ( whole razor Wt 90 gms / 3 1/2 in long)

14) UFO-Godzilla (316L Stainless Steel. 85 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber. 103 gr weight.

Thread is M5x0.8.The neck ends to 8.5 mm)

15) UFO Goliath XL-
316L Stainless Steel. 100 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber. 123 gr weight.
Red Bronze. 100 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber. ??? gr weight (pending).
Thread is M5x0.8. 16) Heavy Duty Premium Barber-pole handle (89 gm).

17) lord 16

18) LC ball end gold plated (GB)

18) Gillette Old OC ball end silver plated (US),

19) Gillette Old OC short travel handle (US),

20) Gillette Tech slim handle (fat alike) (GB),

21) Gillette Tech straight aluminium,

22) Mercur 985CL (2 piece travel handle),

23) Parker 98R ( 4" handle and weighs 3 oz. whole razor wt)

24) Parker 91r (handle length 99mm, weight 80g (head+handle)

25) Parker 48R (handle length 91 mm, weight 96g (head+handle)

26) BRW Bull Mastiff Deluxe -

27) UFO Goliath -

316L Stainless Steel. 85 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber. 103 gr weight.

Red Bronze. 85 mm long. 15/15 mm caliber. 115 gr weight.
Thread is M5x0.8

[Spillproof]

I'm a scientist, a biologist. Standard Error works very well for statistical analysis; not so well for precision manufacturing reliant on micro millimeters.

As I've mentioned I contacted Dr. Dulcamara regarding UFO handle fit on the FaTip. Dr. Dulcamara suggested that ALL UFO handles have the same fit measurements (precisely) and will fit any Fatip.
Naturally, that assumes that Fatip manufacturing is standardized and precise - that does not seem to be the case.

When I get my UFO handle, I will report back.
I, for one, would like to get to the bottom of this "UFO handle on a Fatip" question. I was/am confused by presentation of the Godzilla and Kaiser handles above, but not the Goliath.

If the UFO "Goliath XL" handle does NOT fit my Fatip- I will try a second one.
If it doesn't fit a second one- that's enough of a "sample size" for me - I'll be done with the Fatip.

And if that is the case, you can expect a whole lot of me talking badly about Fatip manufacturing.

[Winblows]

-> Spillproof: This bottom is very close to the surface. Fatip makes imprecise screws.

[OzoneAz]

Alex, I have the Piccolo and the Ikon Bulldog fits on mine.

[Intrigued]

-> Spillproof: This bottom is very close to the surface. Fatip makes imprecise screws.

I think this is one of my favorite lines of all time!






..... and it's such a revelation... Who knew!

Though I was beginning to suspect this might be the case after I read the first few hundred post about it.

[Spillproof]

I think this is one of my favorite lines of all time!






..... and it's such a revelation... Who knew!

Though I was beginning to suspect this might be the case after I read the first few hundred post about it.

Thank you for the "helpful" post. Keep up the good work.
(sarcasm in text sounds snotty)

[Azarius]

FaTip Chrome on iKOn Handle (it took about 20 wraps of teflon tape to get the handle to work)


I cheated with today's blind blade test. Instead of using the same gear, I wanted to try the blade in a razor that I would be using on a regular basis. I had my wife load the FaTip after I wrapped the threads of the cap in teflon tape. I also wanted to try the Semogue 1438 Boar in an ice water soak for a cold water shave.


The Semogue 1438 Boar is hands down my favorite brush. It had some breaking in from the previous owner and I have been lathering with it daily since it arrived (although not using it for my shave routine). The bristles are very soft, much softer than the Vie-Long Beehive Horse Hair, almost as soft as my vintage Stanley Home Badger. What I love about this brush is the size of the knot, loft and handle. Combine that with an excellent backbone and incredible softness and you have yourself a near perfect brush that has a retail price under $21.00 USD


Today I bowl lathered so I could at least do everything as close as possible to the routine of the blind blade test. The 1438 is a lathering machine. I had enough lather left over in my bowl for at least 3 more passes.


There is now no other brushes for me. I will do a few re-knots to two vintage brushes that I own, but when it comes to purchasing a new brush, the only brushes that I will spend my money on are going to be Semogue.


This shave has been Stewie approved

[Intrigued]

Thank you for the "helpful" post. Keep up the good work.
(sarcasm in text sounds snotty)

I try.

Really, I hope you're next one works because everything I've read about the Fatip also sounds like it provides a really nice shave.

[Gam]

I tried all 3 of the FaTips I own on the UFO Godzilla and had no problem with any of them fitting.Right now I have the Chrome Grande on the Godzilla.This particuliar head wouldn't fit the Tradere handle, didn't fit the iKon handle either.Still the FaTip is a great shaver with stock handle or aftermarket(when they actually fit).

[GDCarrington]

You mean a OLD TYPE man?

I was hoping that someone would finish that!

[syngent]

I was hoping that someone would finish that!

after last nights shave im going back to being an old type kind of man lol, astra blades in my NEW on my face was not the leaf i wanted to turn

havent used an astra in ages and I used to use them in that New all the time, but i think ive been spoiled by the rest of my lineup and using other blades now

[bluesbishop]

Well it's good to see you use Open combs after a month of the slim. It's amazing how many of us really love the Fatip. When the group buy happened earlier in the year, they came and gone... And a lot ended up on BST..... Now.... We got a bunch of BOTOC love it.... And it has really taken off as "THE" open comb to buy..... I can't live with it! It is my most used razor now.

The brush looks awesome.... I think only other brush you really need is a H.I.S synthetic and you will have a buch of lather making machines.

FaTip Chrome on iKOn Handle (it took about 20 wraps of teflon tape to get the handle to work)


I cheated with today's blind blade test. Instead of using the same gear, I wanted to try the blade in a razor that I would be using on a regular basis. I had my wife load the FaTip after I wrapped the threads of the cap in teflon tape. I also wanted to try the Semogue 1438 Boar in an ice water soak for a cold water shave.


The Semogue 1438 Boar is hands down my favorite brush. It had some breaking in from the previous owner and I have been lathering with it daily since it arrived (although not using it for my shave routine). The bristles are very soft, much softer than the Vie-Long Beehive Horse Hair, almost as soft as my vintage Stanley Home Badger. What I love about this brush is the size of the knot, loft and handle. Combine that with an excellent backbone and incredible softness and you have yourself a near perfect brush that has a retail price under $21.00 USD


Today I bowl lathered so I could at least do everything as close as possible to the routine of the blind blade test. The 1438 is a lathering machine. I had enough lather left over in my bowl for at least 3 more passes.


There is now no other brushes for me. I will do a few re-knots to two vintage brushes that I own, but when it comes to purchasing a new brush, the only brushes that I will spend my money on are going to be Semogue.


This shave has been Stewie approved

[bluesbishop]

Im one of the few that can generally always get a good shave from an Astra Sp, But that being said... Once you go to a really wonderful blade like the Gillette Black or a SI, must other blades seem pale by comparison.

Old type and single ring both perform very well on my face..... It's been nice to see some love for them lately.

after last nights shave im going back to being an old type kind of man lol, astra blades in my NEW on my face was not the leaf i wanted to turn

havent used an astra in ages and I used to use them in that New all the time, but i think ive been spoiled by the rest of my lineup and using other blades now

[April Dawn]

A quick update on my sons gift his new beloved Joris!
He is in love with his razor, had one little weeper above his lip but other than that a BBS shave! He would like some suggestions for shaving soap fragrances to add to his routine. He loves the Bay rum I got him but he likes to change it up a bit.

[celestino]

after last nights shave im going back to being an old type kind of man lol, astra blades in my NEW on my face was not the leaf i wanted to turn

havent used an astra in ages and I used to use them in that New all the time, but i think ive been spoiled by the rest of my lineup and using other blades now

* Good luck with the Astras, James. i, for one, don't like them. You should try the Super Iridiums.

FaTip Chrome on iKOn Handle (it took about 20 wraps of teflon tape to get the handle to work)


I cheated with today's blind blade test. Instead of using the same gear, I wanted to try the blade in a razor that I would be using on a regular basis. I had my wife load the FaTip after I wrapped the threads of the cap in teflon tape. I also wanted to try the Semogue 1438 Boar in an ice water soak for a cold water shave.


The Semogue 1438 Boar is hands down my favorite brush. It had some breaking in from the previous owner and I have been lathering with it daily since it arrived (although not using it for my shave routine). The bristles are very soft, much softer than the Vie-Long Beehive Horse Hair, almost as soft as my vintage Stanley Home Badger. What I love about this brush is the size of the knot, loft and handle. Combine that with an excellent backbone and incredible softness and you have yourself a near perfect brush that has a retail price under $21.00 USD


Today I bowl lathered so I could at least do everything as close as possible to the routine of the blind blade test. The 1438 is a lathering machine. I had enough lather left over in my bowl for at least 3 more passes.


There is now no other brushes for me. I will do a few re-knots to two vintage brushes that I own, but when it comes to purchasing a new brush, the only brushes that I will spend my money on are going to be Semogue.


This shave has been Stewie approved

* Arley, congrats on the "new" razor for today's shave and that brush is sure amazing. Enjoy the Semogues.

[alex2363]

I'm a scientist, a biologist. Standard Error works very well for statistical analysis; not so well for precision manufacturing reliant on micro millimeters.

As I've mentioned I contacted Dr. Dulcamara regarding UFO handle fit on the FaTip. Dr. Dulcamara suggested that ALL UFO handles have the same fit measurements (precisely) and will fit any Fatip.
Naturally, that assumes that Fatip manufacturing is standardized and precise - that does not seem to be the case.

When I get my UFO handle, I will report back.
I, for one, would like to get to the bottom of this "UFO handle on a Fatip" question. I was/am confused by presentation of the Godzilla and Kaiser handles above, but not the Goliath.

If the UFO "Goliath XL" handle does NOT fit my Fatip- I will try a second one.
If it doesn't fit a second one- that's enough of a "sample size" for me - I'll be done with the Fatip.

And if that is the case, you can expect a whole lot of me talking badly about Fatip manufacturing.

I am conducting this handle thread to try to get a consensus on what handle will fit the Fatip to avoid costly and time consuming errors for our B&B members and users alike. I too think that the Italian Fatip makers are having quality or spec control issues with the razors, I dont think its the handle makers .

[alex2363]

-> Spillproof: This bottom is very close to the surface. Fatip makes imprecise screws.

I am starting to rest towards this assumption too.

[alex2363]

I think this is one of my favorite lines of all time!






..... and it's such a revelation... Who knew!

Though I was beginning to suspect this might be the case after I read the first few hundred post about it.

Just a 100?, i think its more than that, and it may be quadrupled soon.

[April Dawn]

Yeah I picked up another Pocket set that I do not have today! I can not wait to get my hands on it and to clean it up! Here are the before shots

[alex2363]

Thank you for the "helpful" post. Keep up the good work.
(sarcasm in text sounds snotty)

I think Connie's sarcasm is in jest only, she knows that we here at B&&B always get down to the real business at hand. We will find out what the constant defective issues are which in return will eliminate any costly/time consuming errors...... and hope the makers can adjust or correct thier issues.