Page 4 of 13 FirstFirst ... 23456 ... LastLast
Results 61 to 80 of 244

Thread: Will the real "Old Spice" please stand up

  1. #61
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Aussie, Aussie, Aussie!
    Posts
    15,735
    Images
    7

    Default

    I got my bottle of Indian OS in the mail this morning, so I have been doing as scientific an experiment as is in my power.

    I put vintage OS on the back of one hand, and Indian OS on the back of the other, and I have been sniffing them over the course of the day as they fade. There was a bit of difference when they first went on, the Indian had a more alcohol note, for want of a better term. But as they settled down they are indeed almost the same. And when I say almost, not different enough that I would notice or care about if they were not side by side. To my nose they are basically the same thing.
    -David

    Australia? Visit the Great Southern Land!

    WWHLD?

    Wake me up when Laphroaig releases an aftershave.
    Need help? PM a Mod!


  2. #62
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Westwood, NJ
    Posts
    318

    Default

    I knew it.....they changed the formula

  3. #63
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Boynton Beach, FL
    Posts
    1,343
    Images
    3

    Default

    How did they smell?

  4. #64

    Default

    Nice work! Is there any difference attributable to different peak heights (and peak ratios) between the Indian and the Schulton? Concentrations, maybe? I'm no GC guy, so I don't know....
    All your Dorkos are belong to me!

    -- Steve

  5. #65
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Lisbon, Portugal
    Posts
    2,137

    Default

    Outstanding work! Congratulations!

    Quote Originally Posted by k2clones29 View Post
    I gotta say that the experimental aspect of headspace gas chromatography is far from boring. I have great familiarity with it because it is utilized in prosecution against some of my clients. I thought I would despise learning it (I went to law school to be a lawyer, not a scientist, right?). It is very interesting.

    Gotta say this was an awesome experiment. Great idea, great execution.
    Couldn't agree more. I've worked with this technique in the past, and enjoyed it.

    Quote Originally Posted by PDB View Post
    You would not need to use HS for the GC-MS, you could try a SPME injection. I think that would get the job done in a normal inlet. This thread has made my day. It is not often I get to see GC work outside of my job. I have been working with GCs in one form or another since '93. Thanks for the interesting post.
    Again, couldn't agree more; I also think that SPME would be an interesting approach (I've developed a SPME method in the past), and it is great to see a work like this outside of my job! KUDOS for the OP!
    Last edited by oversaturn; 03-14-2012 at 08:32 AM.

  6. #66
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Western NY
    Posts
    1,022

    Default

    I don't really know about different types of Old Spice but I love how you presented this as an abstract and analyzed it as a scientific problem. Well done.

  7. #67
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Houston,TX
    Posts
    3,267

    Default

    For curiosity's sake, what was the column?

    My chem geek is showing :)
    The winter boys... drinking heavy water from a stone.

  8. #68
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Just west of the Big Apple
    Posts
    796
    Images
    59

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodash View Post
    Nice work! Is there any difference attributable to different peak heights (and peak ratios) between the Indian and the Schulton? Concentrations, maybe? I'm no GC guy, so I don't know....
    Just looking at the printout of the peaks of a GC doesn't really tell you much about the actual concentration, for this you need the total area count of all the peaks which via intergration is translated into percentages.The peak itself gives you an idea if the time index for a certain molecule has a signal or not. The peak height (and width) is too rough to make a direct comparison of the concentrations.
    Foamy greetings
    Icebear
    BOBN - Founder of the BROTHERHOOD OF BRUSH NERDS

  9. #69
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Eastern KY
    Posts
    2,127
    Images
    1

    Default

    Facinating!
    Someday...but not today. GRUC - 2013

  10. #70
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Just west of the Big Apple
    Posts
    796
    Images
    59

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by dcobranchi View Post
    It is the author's opinion that Shulton is using the same recipe in India that was used to manufacture the vintage sample. The P & G Old Spice appears to be significantly different from the other two Old Spice samples. I believe that there may be some evidence here for a change in recipe sometime between when the vintage Old Spice was produced and the current recipe. Whether that supposed change occurred before or after P & G obtained the product line is impossible to say. Finally, it appears that the Vijon flavors and fragrances chemists have done an admirable job at reproducing the current P & G product.
    Hi there,
    good job and a lot of work you put in this little investigation.

    Here my $0.02 : Usually "significantly different" is a term used in consumer research when blind coded samples are evaluated by a group of people (e.g. triangle test) under defined lab. conditions and certain statistical calculations translate the number of correct responses (poeple who correctly idientified the odd one out) into results that have a significance of 95, 99 or 99.9%.

    A purely analytical result without identification of the different peaks and interpretation of the organoleptical relevance of the particular components is not conclusive enough. I completely agree about the differences based on variation of natural essential oils, which can show certain differences from crop to crop or from supplier to supplier depending on country of origin, processing method and purity.

    Over the life cycle of such a classic product regulatory restrictions in the industry change and certain materials perfectly normal to use 30 years ago have come under scrutiny because of potential allergy issues or whatever scientific evidence became known and a reformulation is necessary to comply. Most of the time cost saving is key factor, sometimes simply the availablity of certain natural ingredients gets so limited that a synthetic alternative blend is needed. Vijon is relying on fragrance suppliers to deliver the perfume oil that is then just diluted with alcohol and other componets into the final product. As most if not all private lable manufactures, they do not produce the fragrances themselves but they pick from their various suppliers.
    Foamy greetings
    Icebear
    BOBN - Founder of the BROTHERHOOD OF BRUSH NERDS

  11. #71

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by H.S.M.Jr. View Post
    dcobranchi;

    Sir, thank you for your time and effort in doing the experiment on the different OS. I don't know when OS was first manufactured, but I started using it in the mid 1960's, and it is still one of my favorites. One change I remember that first got my curiosity up, was the change in the gray plastic stopper that is used to cap the OS bottles. The earlier ones were slimmer in diameter than the later ones, I can't remember what year I first noticed this change. Could this change have happened at the time SHULTON sold out to P&G? Just curious.

    Somewhere I have partial bottles of the Burley AS and Cologne, Lime, and another bottle of the old SHULTON OS AS. Also, there is a container Burley Body Powder. This is in an elongated 6 sided white plastic container having a closure on top you would slide to open.

    I would wear OS ever day but, the wife doesn't appreciate the fragrance as I do.
    The change from the slim stopper to the thicker stopper occurred around 1967, and Shulton still owned OS then.
    '59 Fatboy,'53 SS,'40's gold fathandled Tech,'65 Schick Eversharp.

  12. #72

    Default

    Excellent analysis! As an addition to this, I would like to see a comparison between several samples of vintage Shulton OS from differing sources. It would be fascinating to see the variations in the genuine Shulton product!
    Saving money? No, I said that was my Shaving money.
    You can never have enough razors... until they overflow your shave den. Then it's time for a bigger den.

  13. #73
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    NW Indiana
    Posts
    1,746

    Default

    Bravo! It didn't even occur to me to test these types of things when I had access to a HPLC and GC. Next time I get my hands on those pieces of equipment I will give it a try!
    ~Justin

  14. #74
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    277

    Default

    Does the Indian stuff come in a glass bottle?

  15. #75
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Far Far north suburbs of Chicago
    Posts
    39,195

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by kosby View Post
    Does the Indian stuff come in a glass bottle?
    No

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	OS.JPG 
Views:	250 
Size:	58.5 KB 
ID:	241993
    Phil
    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

  16. #76
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Braselton, GA
    Posts
    3,812
    Images
    36

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by kosby View Post
    Does the Indian stuff come in a glass bottle?
    Actually it does, but only in the 50ml size.
    John - ALPHA Team founding member (Faceman)

  17. #77
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Far Far north suburbs of Chicago
    Posts
    39,195

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by man00ver View Post
    Actually it does, but only in the 50ml size.
    The 50ml bottles I have from India are the white round type, but they are still plastic.
    I couldn't find any glass bottles while I was over there.
    Phil
    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

  18. #78
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Braselton, GA
    Posts
    3,812
    Images
    36

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by luvmysuper View Post
    The 50ml bottles I have from India are the white round type, but they are still plastic.
    I couldn't find any glass bottles while I was over there.
    Odd, because my little 50s are unmistakably glass. Clinkity-clink. That goes for both the one I bought at WCS, and the several I grabbed at Patel Bros Indian Supermarket in March of last year.
    John - ALPHA Team founding member (Faceman)

  19. #79
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Far Far north suburbs of Chicago
    Posts
    39,195

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by man00ver View Post
    Odd, because my little 50s are unmistakably glass. Clinkity-clink. That goes for both the one I bought at WCS, and the several I grabbed at Patel Bros Indian Supermarket in March of last year.
    Maybe something for export? I couldn't find them locally, and I sure looked.
    Phil
    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

  20. #80
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    South of Fort Worth TX
    Posts
    5,329
    Images
    37

    Default

    A well done study!
    I'm a ole Minister who loves the Ole South. I am an Arko Acolyte.

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 10
    Last Post: 09-17-2011, 12:27 PM
  2. Will the real "Swedes" please stand up
    By Will P.C. in forum Safety Razor Blades
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 03-31-2010, 11:30 AM
  3. Old Spice "Lagoon" and "Ice Rock"?
    By Kevan in forum Aftershaves
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 03-11-2010, 09:33 PM
  4. Would the "real" Proraso please stand up?
    By Drubbing in forum General Shaving Discussion
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 11-03-2009, 07:03 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
By accessing Badger & Blade, you agree to abide by the Terms of Usage. You can find our Privacy Policy here.
Once submitted, any posts, images, or content become the property of Badger & Blade.
Powered by vBulletin® - Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.