that is awesome.. thanks for the research and analysis.
OK I give up it's me.. Dieter Rams.
It seems that no one was throwing conspiracies out there when American Cyanamid bought Shulton in the 70's, but with the internet P&G has become the new Illuminati. Maybe our forefathers didn't care that much and just rolled with the punches better.
From working in the industry, no not P&G, all formulations are refined and changed over time to decrease cost, increase shelf life etc. This includes P&G, American Cyanamid and, yes, even Shulton.
I suspect the current formula was significantly changed when P&G outsourced production and development of North American Old Spice products to URI, in 2001. Prior to that, I believe all N.A. production was done in the original Shulton facilities. The current licensed producer in India is MCPL, the same Menezes-family business that worked with the Shulton Company to establish OS products for the Indian market in '68. The continuity of the Indian product is a bit stronger than the current P&G product.
Having said that, I applaud P&G for continuing to market OS splash, even if I happen to prefer the scent of the Indian and vintage Shulton versions.
Nice work, Daryl!
From working in the industry, no not P&G, all formulations are refined and changed over time to decrease cost, increase shelf life etc. This includes P&G, American Cyanamid and, yes, even Shulton.
OK I give up it's me.. Dieter Rams.
On a more serious note I don't doubt the person donating the sample I have just known a few sellers on EBay that make a fortune selling counterfeit vintage items.
Any cologne is going to suffer do to degradation of volatiles over a 20 year time period even if the cap is left on. It could be possible that a 20 year old volatile product stored in a non controlled environment has the exact same comp and concentrations, even the alcohol, as a product just off the line.
I have used Old Spice for going on 40 years and never liked the scent of the Indian version or the Dollar store version.
It seems that no one was throwing conspiracies out there when American Cyanamid bought Shulton in the 70's, but with the internet P&G has become the new Illuminati. Maybe our forefathers didn't care that much and just rolled with the punches better.
From working in the industry, no not P&G, all formulations are refined and changed over time to decrease cost, increase shelf life etc. This includes P&G, American Cyanamid and, yes, even Shulton.
Excellent post. To me, the whole thing is beyond silly considering there are no sources for original OS that are reliable. If one thinks Indian OS is close to the original, end of story. But there are countless posts here and elsewhere that dispute that. I suppose it's fun to keep beating this dead horse but I am quite happy with the current P&G aftershave and cologne and compared to *my* two vintage samples (one from the 50's and the other from the 70's) the new stuff smells right, the old stuff doesn't; it's turned just like any old perfume does in time. YMMV and yadda, yadda, yadda.