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    I bought some Personna blades off of Ebay a while back. They are suppose to be Israeli made. The blade has Personna Platinum Chrome printed on it. The wrapper they are in is red with a silver blade on it. it has Personna platinum writen on it. They have distributed by American safety razor co. Verona, Va also printed on them. Are they made in Isral? I would put up a pic but I do not have my camera.

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    Well, this is where things get confusing.
    Technically they are Israeli Personnas because they are made in Israel and labeled as Personna.

    However, the very same factory makes another blade sold under the name Crystal and these come in blue wrappers and are the blades people here at B&B refer to as IP's.

    They come out of the same factory but are not the same blades.

    I know, it's confusing.
    Someone correct me if I've mixed this up.
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    Dusty, it's my understanding you're correct.

    Eddie, I have the same blades, and love 'em.

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    I used one today and They work great.
    Eddie

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    Actually, I'm going to make this more difficult: one of the blades that people around here like a great deal is a "no-name" blade that is sold in little square, white cardboard boxes that contain 100 blades wrapped in blue and white paper. The box says "100 Double Edge Blades" The paper wrapper says "Super Platinum and the blade says "made in Israel" on them. These are generally known as the Israeli no-names, Israeli blue, IP no-name, IP blue wrapped and very often as the Israeli Personna although the word "personna" does not appear on the blade or the package.

    The red packaged blade says "Personna" on it but nowhere does it say "Israel". The ebay seller however has assured people that she gets them in bulk from Israel and the company that owns the factory (American Safety Razor) has reportedly confirmed that they come from Israel.

    I understand that the Crystal blade is the same one as the no-name. I've never seen these blades and know nothing about them. I understand people think that they are the blue no-name, but I seem to recall people thinking that they are the "red" package Israeli. But whatever you do, don't quote me on anything about the Crystal blade, I've never seen one.

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    The Crystal blades are the same as the blue wrapped IP no-names, as confirmed by ASR. The red wrapped ones are different, although are also a decent blade.

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    I've used the "No Names" frequently and they give a good shave...

    I'd rate them the same or close to the Derby...

    As always with razor blades... (YMMV)...

    Enjoy your shave...

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    Quote Originally Posted by razercat View Post
    I bought some Personna blades off of Ebay a while back. They are suppose to be Israeli made. The blade has Personna Platinum Chrome printed on it. The wrapper they are in is red with a silver blade on it. it has Personna platinum writen on it. They have distributed by American safety razor co. Verona, Va also printed on them. Are they made in Isral? I would put up a pic but I do not have my camera.

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    This is the blade we are talking about, I presume? Israeli Personna, afaik.
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    The packaging that MarSellus shows looks a lot like the US Personna's, except for the fact that "made in USA" is written on the outer box and on the blade of the US version. Does it say made in Israel anywhere on the other blades?



    BTW MarSellus if you are ok with it can I use your pictures in the ShaveWiki?
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    Yes, cloggie, you may use the pics for the shavewiki.

    The big packaging says Personna Platinum Double Edge Blades. It's a display packaging that folds in three. No country of origin or manufacture are mentioned. The barcode is a 12-digit UPC barcode (universal product code) and says: 0 24500 13111 8, as far as I know, Israel is 729 at the beginning. The packaging also says: 100 blades in packets of 5 in English and in Spanish. So, the origin is definitely not Israel, but that doesn't mean, I think, that they weren't manufactured in Israel. Israeli products are likely to be boycotted by Arab/Muslim buyers. As the use of DE blades is very widespread in those countries, Personna would cut themselves off by marketing their blades as "Israeli" made.

    I bought them from lildeb66143 on eBay. The item was listed as "100ea. Personna Double Edge razor blades Made in Israel". She has a 99,3% score from 722 people.

    Who can give a definitive advice on these blades? They are fantastic shavers, so they can't be other than the Israeli made variant. JB, where are you?
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    MarSellus,

    That is the blade I have, the one in your pics.

    Eddie

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    MarSellus, those are the red warpped Israeli blades, which are not what is commonly refered to as Israeli Personnas and branded as Crystal in the States. However, I've never been a fan of calling the blue wrapped blades Israeli Personnas, anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by letterk View Post
    MarSellus, those are the red warpped Israeli blades, which are not what is commonly refered to as Israeli Personnas and branded as Crystal in the States. However, I've never been a fan of calling the blue wrapped blades Israeli Personnas, anyways.
    I think this just became really confusing...
    I have now seen:
    *Personna Platinum Chrome made in the USA
    *Personna Platinum Chrome made in Israel?
    *Israeli Personna?
    *No brand Israeli Personna?
    *Crystal
    *Blue wrapped Israeli Personna?

    If anybody is able to shed some more light on the different versions of these blades (preferably with pictures) I'd really appreciate it. It will also allow me to update the ShaveWiki page on DE blades accordingly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaxorca View Post
    I think this just became really confusing...
    I have now seen:
    *Personna Platinum Chrome made in the USA
    *Personna Platinum Chrome made in Israel?
    *Israeli Personna?
    *No brand Israeli Personna?
    *Crystal
    *Blue wrapped Israeli Personna?

    If anybody is able to shed some more light on the different versions of these blades (preferably with pictures) I'd really appreciate it. It will also allow me to update the ShaveWiki page on DE blades accordingly!
    @Flaxorca I think the Shave Wiki will be 'de nagel aan je doodskist'!

    @Letterk: the funny stuff is, John, I immediately thought these blades to be the 'famed' Israeli Personna's because they provided me with a very smooth shave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarSellus Wallace View Post
    @Flaxorca I think the Shave Wiki will be 'de nagel aan je doodskist'!
    All for the greater good and other such clichés .
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    while where on the topic of personna blades, i came across this in a shop in spain, at 0.75 euro the 10 pack (around a $1.05),
    they are marked as personna platinium,
    http://www.casa-rodriguez.com/index....c=1&prod=10915
    but as you can see, the package does not match the israely persona, these any good ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aevum View Post
    while where on the topic of personna blades, i came across this in a shop in spain, at 0.75 euro the 10 pack (around a $1.05),
    they are marked as personna platinium,
    http://www.casa-rodriguez.com/index....c=1&prod=10915
    but as you can see, the package does not match the israely persona, these any good ?
    That is cheap! Could somebody tell me please what the real Israeli Personna's are?
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    that was the issue, these personna seem to come in a white plastic casing, wilkinson style, and a white and gray cover with text in red, very different from the israely persona, so im wondering if these are some kind of european or asian made personna blades,

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    One of the problems is that Personna is not a universally owned brand name. I believe it's owned by at least two different companies in different countries. The name Israeli Personna came about because the plant that makes the blades in Israel is owned by American Safety Razor, who markets some blades under the name of Personna. However, the real IPs are not marketed under the name Personna in the US.

    The "real" IPs are the blue wrapped blades. They were originally discovered on ebay in boxes of 100. I tracked down the source and found they are sold in the US under the Crystal and Navarro name. I was also able to confirm the red wrapped blades are different but I wasn't able to get a brand name for them.

    The ASR blade plant in Israel is large and could be making a number of different blades. I am only sure of the two (red and blue wrapped). Robert, Where did you see made in the USA Personna blades? I don't think ASR is making blades in the USA anymore. They do sell Personna blades in the US, but they're most likely made in Mexico.

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    Thank you, John. Things are more clear now. Dr. Mike, however, was not very fond of the Crystal blades in his review. I am very fond of the blades I pictured on this page. I entered a review under 'Israeli Personna' in the review section, assuming that they were Israeli's...
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