Bill Ellis on the bay

**mdunn** · 10-26-2011, 04:41 PM

High price.... But damn it's very tempting. Tis a good thing i already have an ellis (quite similar, actually) or i may be a very poor man!

**BillEllis** · 10-31-2011, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by superbleu

I have a razor very similar to this one(yes I know I am very very lucky), I believe I paid about half of the BIN price is.

I'm sure Bill wouldn't approve of such a high mark-up.

First, you got yours at a discount cause I liked you. If it will make you feel better, I can charge you more next time. :-)

As far as the ebay razor, well... here is where I am at on that front. At least the guy is bright enough to know that he can get more for one of my razors than he paid for it. It may not sell at that price and the market will eventually dictate the final price. I do have to say it's an extremely clean razor. Fundamental and elegant with the right splash of pizzazz. The one-piece olive wood circumvented the warping that can occur with that wood. That being said, any of you who have one of my razors would have your stock go up if it does sell for more than he paid. Selling it for more is a whole heck of a lot better than the guy who sold one of my razors for less money than he paid. That was just plain silly. The guy who bought it sent it to me for adjustment. I had to regrind the honing mistakes, make it sharp again, and once that was done, the razor doubled in value. I'm pretty sure the new owner won't part with it for a while. The only down side for this ebay fellow is that I will never sell him another one of my razors.

**dakotaev** · 10-31-2011, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by BillEllis

That being said, any of you who have one of my razors would have your stock go up if it does sell for more than he paid.

+1

I guess its a compliment to your workmanship.

Originally Posted by BillEllis

The only down side for this ebay fellow is that I will never sell him another one of my razors.

I'm curious, if he sold it for the same price he paid for it, would your opinion be different?

**BillEllis** · 10-31-2011, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by dakotaev

+1

I guess its a compliment to your workmanship.

I'm curious, if he sold it for the same price he paid for it, would your opinion be different?

Selling price is immaterial. Getting rid of it tells me he would sell the next one too, more likely than not to make a profit. Everyone is certainly entitled to make a profit off one of my razors... ONCE! I'd rather have my razors go to folks who want to hang on to them for their kids and grand kids.

**danjared** · 10-31-2011, 09:38 PM

Selling it like this shows that the seller values the name Bill Ellis in terms of the price any creation of Mr. Ellis commands. It doesn't necessarily show that the seller ever truly appreciated the craftsmanship. I'd rather have a man value my work than the monetary value of my work.

**Don Barbiere** · 10-31-2011, 09:49 PM

When you got to feed your family , you got to do what you got to do!

**danjared** · 10-31-2011, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by Don Barbiere

When you got to feed your family , you got to do what you got to do!

If he's selling to feed his family, he sure is buying and selling a lot of things off eBay lately. Just look at his feedback.

**Drybonz** · 10-31-2011, 09:58 PM

I can't fault another man for deciding to sell something, but if I had a razor like that it would be with me for the long haul.

**Don Barbiere** · 10-31-2011, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by danjared

If he's selling to feed his family, he sure is buying and selling a lot of things off eBay lately. Just look at his feedback.

I do not know his situation or approve him selling a one of kind razor but we do not know his situation...his feedback shows 91 his last sale was in march and last purchase almost a year ago....

**danjared** · 10-31-2011, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by Don Barbiere

I do not know his situation or approve him selling a one of kind razor but we do not know his situation...his feedback shows 91 his last sale was in march and last purchase almost a year ago....

You're right, I didn't look at the dates very closely.

**Obiwan** · 11-01-2011, 06:41 AM

I can think of so many things in my life I'd sell before that razor if I was lucky enough to own it. Given the rarity that these things show up, I'm sure someone will buy it. To be honest, I look at it often. Still kicking myself for not buying the last one that was posted on BST.

**BillEllis** · 11-01-2011, 02:09 PM

To emphasize... I carry no ill feelings whatsoever towards anyone who sells one of my custom razors, regardless of their reason or when it's sold. Hopefully, the eBay fellow isn't going through a hard time with family financial issues.

**Trenton** · 11-01-2011, 02:44 PM

I look at this a bit differently, Bill doesn't make Razors, Dovo and other companies make razors. Bill makes art, one of a kind pieces or maybe a small series, his Art happens to be a beautiful razors that you can use. If someone is willing to pay more than what Bill is charging, it just shows that his work is appreciated and holds a higher value.

Oh and by the way Bill, I think your work is great!

**brianw** · 11-01-2011, 07:46 PM

I can tell you this.... The Ellis I have is never going to leave my possession !

**Jsteele** · 11-05-2011, 11:46 PM

Anyone who is lucky enough to obtain one of Bill's razors is in for a treat no matter what the price is. They are fantastic functional works of art that will always increase in value,especially when Bill retires. The quality and craftsmanship involved in one of his razors are amazing and are truly family heirloom worthy. Gents... Bill's razors DO NOT pop up often at all for sale. His waiting list is over 5 years long and has been closed for a while now. I would suggest if you see one for sale and can afford the price? Buy it.. there will ALWAYS be someone out there willing to buy it off of you. Just my .02 cents..

**global_dev** · 11-06-2011, 06:49 AM

i would surmise that if the waiting list is over 5 yrs long AND closed, a premium on a nice razor could very well be warranted by a buyer.

**brothers** · 11-20-2011, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by BillEllis

Selling price is immaterial. Getting rid of it tells me he would sell the next one too, more likely than not to make a profit. Everyone is certainly entitled to make a profit off one of my razors... ONCE! I'd rather have my razors go to folks who want to hang on to them for their kids and grand kids.

That's what I'm doing with mine. I'm quite fortunate to have it, and it might be the only thing of value I have to pass along to my son and grandson.

**blademen** · 11-20-2011, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by BillEllis

To emphasize... I carry no ill feelings whatsoever towards anyone who sells one of my custom razors, regardless of their reason or when it's sold. Hopefully, the eBay fellow isn't going through a hard time with family financial issues.

That is very kind of you MR. Ellis.