Lets get one thing straight. I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to shave with a DE or SE. I am not asking for advice because I have already done that. I have experimented a GREAT deal with all kinds of blades and razors both DE and SE in my year long shaving journey. Bottom line is this DE or SE takes me at least four passes to get a close enough shave to pass for a whole day at work. Pro Glide takes me two! I have a really dense and tough beard so I'm pretty sure thats a big factor. Without any more boring details I have concluded its just not for me. I save time, my skin feels better, and I actually like shaving again. Just to re-iterate I would love to save money and DE/SE shave, but It just doesn't work for me, and the main factor is that the shave just isn't as close or comfortable as a Cartridge. I have to say I am not that disappointed either. I will still enjoy my soaps and creams and browsing around the forum as the Lone Cart User haha. Are there others out there like me?