As the title says. I've searched, and found no definition. I've searched for a FAQ file too, and come up empty. So. What on Gods' Green Earth does "PIF" mean or stand for? 
Ta muchly in advance
Ta muchly in advance
Probably a silly question, but... PIF? huh?
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Pay it forward.
Pay It Forward
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OK, thanks 
Now, having looked up the full term, it all makes sense
For those not following the concept, here's a wiki I found on it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_it_forward
Now, having looked up the full term, it all makes sense For those not following the concept, here's a wiki I found on it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_it_forward
its a cool concept to live by in the outside world too:}
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Very true Would that more out in the real world (so to speak) would follow the idea *shrug*
Would that more out in the real world (so to speak) would follow the idea *shrug*
Pay It Forward is a concept that I first heard about in a movie back in the 90's. Based on a true story, A young boy came up with it and popularized the concept locally. He later on met a tragic end. I think that the movie is what really popularized this great concept.
The tragic part was that Haley Joel Osment ended up playing him in the movie, a fate worse than death.
Now that you understand "PIF", you may need to explain "ta muchly" to our American friends. 
I, too was wondering what "PIF" meant. Thank you.
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Now that you understand "PIF", you may need to explain "ta muchly" to our American friends.
Ahem. *Assumes voice of the Hitchiker's Guide To The Galaxy, a.k.a. the Stephen Fry fruity voice
*"Ta Muchly". A generally British expression that has also come to be used in certain antipodean places such as Australia and New Zealand. A phrase used to denote many thanks to any person or group who provide much needed assistance and/or advice to the recipient, who shall become most properly grateful. May incur the recipient granting a small boon, such as the provision of an alcoholic beverage to the singular individual providing the best help and/or assistance. Provided, of course, that the boon recipient is him or her self over the minimum age to partake in such beverages under local laws and/or ordnances. if not, or if the boon recipient is a tee-totaller, then a simple handshake and parting nod should be all that is required to settle the transaction."
Hope that helps
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free beer for all?:}
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LOL, Mine's a pint of Abbot Ale 
The Wikipedia has a great history of it, and it may refer to the movie you saw?
History
The concept was used as a key plot element in the denouement of a New Comedy play by Menander, Dyskolos (a title which can be translated as "The Grouch"). Dyskolos was a prizewinning play in ancient Athens in 317 BC; as the text of the play then disappeared and was not re-published until 1957, the concept had to be rediscovered.
The concept was rediscovered and described by Benjamin Franklin, in a letter to Benjamin Webb dated April 22, 1784:
Ralph Waldo Emerson, in his 1841 essay Compensation,[1] wrote:
In 1916, Lily Hardy Hammond wrote, "You don't pay love back; you pay it forward."[2]
Woody Hayes (February 14, 1913 March 12, 1987) was a college football coach who is best remembered for winning five national titles and 13 Big Ten championships in 28 years at The Ohio State University. He misquoted Emerson as having said "You can pay back only seldom. You can always pay forward, and you must pay line for line, deed for deed, and cent for cent." He also shortened the (mis)quotation into "You can never pay back; but you can always pay forward" and variants.
The 1929 novel, Magnificent Obsession, by Lloyd C. Douglass, also espoused this philosophy, in combination with the concept that good deeds should be performed in confidence.
An anonymous spokesman for Alcoholics Anonymous said in the Christian Science Monitor in 1944, "You can't pay anyone back for what has happened to you, so you try to find someone you can pay forward."[3]
Also in 1944, the first steps were taken in the development of what became Heifer Project, one of whose core strategies is "Passing on the Gift".
The term "pay it forward" was popularized by Robert A. Heinlein in his book Between Planets, published in 1951:
Heinlein both preached and practiced this philosophy; now the Heinlein Society, a humanitarian organization founded in his name, does so. Author Spider Robinson made repeated reference to the doctrine, attributing it to his spiritual mentor Heinlein.[4]
The mathematician Paul Erdős, in one of his visits to Harvard University, met a promising math student on the verge of expulsion for inability to pay his tuition. Erdős paid the young man's tuition in full. Years later, the man offered to return the entire amount to Erdős, but Erdős insisted that the man rather find another student in his situation, and give the tuition to him.[5]
In 2000, Catherine Ryan Hyde's novel Pay It Forward was published and adapted into a Warner Brothers film, Pay It Forward. In Ryan Hyde's book and movie it is described as an obligation to do three good deeds for others in repayment of a good deed that one receives. Such good deeds should be things that the other person cannot accomplish on their own. In this way, the need to help one another can spread exponentially through society, creating a social movement with the goal of making the world a better place.
There once was a man from Southcrisp,
Who spoke with a bit of a lisp.
His B&B mates
sent him razors in crates,
and told everyone he was PIFFed!
Who spoke with a bit of a lisp.
His B&B mates
sent him razors in crates,
and told everyone he was PIFFed!
I was thinking the same thing. "He later on met a tragic end"- and he deserved it (well, Haley Joel that is)
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