Seraphim's Synthetic Progression

**Pkrankow** · 05-13-2012, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by paco664

Um... hone and razor...

Yea, it is a combined package. I am looking forward to it, even if I have to lap the hone. I have a powered lapping option for small hones now :p The pictures you sent me are very nice.

Phil

**kelebekcc** · 06-12-2012, 11:14 AM

Any place or anyone selling with cheap international shipping options (like usps first class)?? Priority shipping about 30$.

I found here but i think they don't have all grits. http://www.workshopheaven.com/tools/...harpening.html
If it's enough i want to buy 12, 5, 3 and 1 micron. My only stone is Naniwa 12000.

Hi Seraphim, victim here and kanayama still on the way :)
Thanks.

**marcel** · 06-12-2012, 01:30 PM

Check the vendor section for Rickboone1 post on lapping films. I bought 2 packs from him recently and International shipping was very reasonable.

Originally Posted by kelebekcc

Any place or anyone selling with cheap international shipping options (like usps first class)?? Priority shipping about 30$.

I found here but i think they don't have all grits. http://www.workshopheaven.com/tools/...harpening.html
If it's enough i want to buy 12, 5, 3 and 1 micron. My only stone is Naniwa 12000.

Hi Seraphim, victim here and kanayama still on the way :)
Thanks.

**kelebekcc** · 06-12-2012, 01:54 PM

Thank you marcel. PM sent to Rickboone1.
I'm on the Rickboone1's list, we are waiting for a few more buyers.
http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthr...-Film-for-sale

Friends you saved me from buy a few more stones. I can get one or two razor or another brush with this saved money.

**Bendragon** · 08-05-2012, 02:20 AM

Cheers all, I've just read this thread and I'm on the lookout for some films now...I shot an email to Rickboone1 as that seems pretty good for a starter.
Is there anything lost on not getting the 0.3 ? as it's not offered on his post.

Ben

**Doc226** · 08-05-2012, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by Bendragon

Cheers all, I've just read this thread and I'm on the lookout for some films now...I shot an email to Rickboone1 as that seems pretty good for a starter.
Is there anything lost on not getting the 0.3 ? as it's not offered on his post.

Ben

I have never tried the 0.3 (lack of Mojo) but have read the edges can be a bit harsh.
Dont forget to finish with some pico, paco or some other paper.

Film is as easy to use as it gets and great edges-lack of Mojo and all

**Wid** · 08-05-2012, 03:28 AM

You're not going to miss a thing not getting the .03 um paper. Finish with the 1 then put some paper under and do like 40 more laps and it should be all good. Films can give a very nice edge to shave with. If you want more after that use a pasted strop.

**Bendragon** · 08-05-2012, 03:55 AM

Sounds like a winner, I'll see how this email turns out and let myself loose on an unsuspecting blade or 2

**gash** · 08-05-2012, 02:50 PM

CrOx on balsa is a very useful step after the 1um film. It quickly puts a sinister edge on a straight.

**Seraphim** · 08-05-2012, 09:14 PM

Even better is a layer or two of wet paper under the 1um for your final laps.

**Seraphim** · 08-05-2012, 09:18 PM

PicoPaper info here.

All rights reserved.

Even a few of the lefts as well.

**Disburden** · 08-06-2012, 01:41 PM

Been struggling with coticules for a few weeks. Shaves were never good enough...

So I went to home depot and bought a 12x3 slab of marble and went to my films.

Bevel set on naniwa 1k
Pink film
then green film
green film with paper cushion
Cerium oxide strop in linen.
leather stropping

Best shave of my life with straights, two passes NO atg pass.

**Seraphim** · 08-06-2012, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Disburden

Been struggling with coticules for a few weeks. Shaves were never good enough...

So I went to home depot and bought a 12x3 slab of marble and went to my films.

Bevel set on naniwa 1k
Pink film
then green film
green film with paper cushion
Cerium oxide strop in linen.
leather stropping

Best shave of my life with straights, two passes NO atg pass.

Welcome to the 21st century!

**Doc226** · 08-06-2012, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Seraphim

Welcome to the 21st century!

Lack of Mojo and all.

Shave with a straight-Mojo
Hone on film-Negative Mojo
Overall you are Mojo neutral

HAHAHA

**Disburden** · 08-06-2012, 06:02 PM

Mojo or not...the edges are far superior.

**Doc226** · 08-06-2012, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Disburden

Mojo or not...the edges are far superior.

Excellent. I like films edges, prefer JNAT ones.

What matters is what you enjoy.

**Wid** · 08-06-2012, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Disburden

Mojo or not...the edges are far superior.

Really? I don't mind films but to say the are "far superior" to a coticule edge is a bit of a stretch imo. I know you have been honing for a while but it does surprise me that you are having trouble with your coticules after all this time.

**Bendragon** · 08-06-2012, 06:15 PM

Is there some kind of Mojo buy back scheme for those of us that are Mojo Negative ?
Can we offer somthing in return for other's Excess Mojo ?

Works for big business...

**Disburden** · 08-06-2012, 06:22 PM

I own 13 coticules , some are easier to use than others. I do think some are better than others like any other natural stone...Its an ongoing debate...

The post I made was referring to my new coticules I purchased in an antique store for 10$. I was testing them and was getting frustrated with the results. My beard likes very sharp edges, I had to learn to shave when I was 12 when my beard came in all over my face.
When I used to use the mach III back in the day I had to change cartridges daily, that's why I was fed up and went to w et shaving.

I have had razors honed on coticules sent to me and to me they weren't keen enough for an easy shave.
Others are great and did fine...

I do believe the cerium oxide helped too.

**Doc226** · 08-06-2012, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Wid

Really? I don't mind films but to say the are "far superior" to a coticule edge is a bit of a stretch imo. I know you have been honing for a while but it does surprise me that you are having trouble with your coticules after all this time.

I agree, film edges are good, they lack a little smoothness for me.

Originally Posted by Bendragon

Is there some kind of Mojo buy back scheme for those of us that are Mojo Negative ?
Can we offer somthing in return for other's Excess Mojo ?

Works for big business...

Sure, I can sell you some mojo, lemon, garlic and secret spices

Originally Posted by Disburden

I own 13 coticules , some are easier to use than others. I do think some are better than others like any other natural stone...Its an ongoing debate...

The post I made was referring to my new coticules I purchased in an antique store for 10$. I was testing them and was getting frustrated with the results. My beard likes very sharp edges, I had to learn to shave when I was 12 when my beard came in all over my face.
When I used to use the mach III back in the day I had to change cartridges daily, that's why I was fed up and went to w et shaving.

I have had razors honed on coticules sent to me and to me they weren't keen enough for an easy shave.
Others are great and did fine...

I do believe the cerium oxide helped too.

I agree with coticule edges not being keen enough for me, using oil helps a bit or before oil I used CBN spray.

To me a nice JNAT edge has both smoothness and keenness.