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    Default What I've learned in a month.

    I've learned some things in my first month of wet shaving.

    A month isn't a long time and I've got no idea if any of this will work for other newbies but here it is..

    I started out pretty good to be honest. I read a lot of posts, watched a lot of vids, and gave careful attention to what I was doing. My first few shaves were ok to be honest. A few weepers here and there and some irritation on my neck.

    A month later and I hardly ever get weepers and there is almost no irritation, sometimes none. I'll call it a successful month and hope to improve in months ahead. But here are the things I think helped me get my first bit of improvement.

    I shave a lot. I might have only skipped 2 days of shaving but there were some times that I shaved twice a day. I shaved the night before and did a touch up shave in the am. I have no idea if it's better to rest your face a day or two but grow more hair requiring extra passes or to shave more often but I picked shave more often. Maybe it was the practice, my face getting used to DE shaving or both but clocking 50 shaves in a month did something that helped me.

    Products - I used to use just one shaving product, Barbasol lime. Now in my prep I apply some Kiss My Face cream and work it in with my finger tips. I let it sit awhile while I prepare things. I rub an Arko stick all over my face lifting up the whiskers. After I'm done I use a combination of witch hazel, After shave, balm, and even Lubriderm or aloe vera gel depending on whatever whim I'm on. My thinking is that these products work. The witch hazel does something...the menthol does something.. These products in prep work to prepare you for shaving and the post products are healing your skin. Sounds really simple as I'm writing it but I just never thought about healing my face after shaving before I came here.

    Pressure - I could not really figure out how to use zero pressure and let the weight of the razor do the work. It sounds good but I don't really know how to do that. What I did figure out was that holding my razor close to the head using only my thumb and first two fingers uses a lot less pressure than say grabbing the handle in your whole fist would. Sort of like holding a tea cup with a tiny handle. It forces you to have a light touch if you use a very light hold.

    Angle - I'm still a bit lost on proper angle but I rely on sound to guide me. The face is all sorts of angles and I can't figure on how to hold 30 degrees across it. I just listen for cutting and adjust if I don't hear any.

    Short strokes - I use (try to use) short 1" strokes instead of long sweeping strokes of days gone by from ear all the way down to jaw. Uhm..yeah, it took me a few times to learn long DE strokes don't work for me at all.

    Passes - I've done a weeks worth of 2 pass shaves. Either WTG or WTG and XTG trying with all my might not to chase after perfect shaves and be happy with the socially acceptable shave required for my work. I try hard to stick with it but the quest for BBS has a strong pull. I must admit that I sometimes do go with 3-4 pass shaves and even the newbie no no ATG pass from time to time. I know I should not do it but it's so damn effective. It cuts stuff that the other passes are missing. This is a tough one but TRYING to stick to SAS and low wear and tear 2 pass shaves did do wonders for me on neck irritation. It's hard to obey the rules.

    Blades and razors - Everybody says get a sample pack so I did. I also got two razors and I've been trying all sorts of combinations. I've found that most of the blades are very similar and the differences are in how many shaves a blade gives me or if a blade is a bit sharper to start out with but for me it's not a huge deal (yet). The important part was in trying two blades that don't work for me at all...they suck. If I only had those blades to start with it would be tragic. So testing different blades gives you valuable information. I found out what it's like for a blade to skip and it's not the end of the world but it's an eye opener and teaches you how to recognize a smoother blade. There is no substitute for trying some variables and learning what they mean to you and your shave.

    That's it so far. I moth isn't that long and maybe not enough to post a zillion word post on "all I've learned" but I read tons of posts like this and that is perhaps the most important part of the puzzle. Having a forum like this to absorb as much information as you can from those that have gone before me. There is a massive amount of information here and the newbie can type things into the search box and spend the next hour chasing down info that will save weeks/months of experimenting on their own.

    So yeah....my first month of real shaving was fun.

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    Hey John,

    Nice 'report'. You have made some great choices and great observations. Cool! Let me point out a few valuable observations you made:

    Healing your face after a shave
    Finding ways to reduce pressure
    Listening to the blade as it cuts
    Sticking to WTG and XTG passes (except when you give in to temptation)
    Using a sample pack and seeing it's value
    Having fun!

    Are you using a brush after you rub the ARKO on your face? What kind of brush and how does it work for you?

    The best reason I have found for avoiding ATG passes is this. If we rely only on WTG and XTG passes to get a BBS, our technic will improve until the BBS comes our way. If we rely on an ATG pass to get a BBS, it usually adds irritation, which we want to avoid.

    Sounds like you are progressing very well! Sweet!
    Eric V

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    You have learned a lot, everything will make sense with practice.

    Al raz.

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    Nice post. You have come a long way. Another to use less pressure is to hold the razor only at the end - but be careful not to drop it.
    Jim P. - St. Petersburg, FL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric V View Post

    Are you using a brush after you rub the ARKO on your face? What kind of brush and how does it work for you?

    Yes, the brush makes the Arko "blow up" with just a few swirls. In fact I'm pretty sure I'm going to stick with face lathering for a while even when testing other soaps. I've had an easy time face lathering but bowl lathering I'm not sure about. I suspect that I'm not building nearly as good a lather as I should be. It works but I'm not convinced it's "good lather".

    Keep in mind I'm a newbie so I have not had time to get my hands on a ton of gear yet. I've got the KMF, Arko, and VDH soap. After ordering my fist razor I grabbed a VDH set because it was local. It comes with that boar brush. I find that the brush works....pretty darn good for all I know. Something I don't like about it is that is had what I'm calling a cowlick. It does not flare out in a nice bloom pattern like picks of other brushes.

    While reading posts I learned that some people like the #6 horse hair brush from Bestshave so I ordered one of those to try it.

    And.....I like it too. It does flare out better but the thing is, and this is a serious question Why do I want better brushes than these? I mean more expensive. This is about $10 or $12 worth of brush and they load plenty of soap (VDH anyhow) blow up Arko all over my face like it's going out of style and they just plain "work". The only thing I find them lacking is style. One day I plan on getting a very nice display rack and then I think it makes sense to have a very attractive razor and brush but my skill level is far from surpassing the abilities of these inexpensive brushes right now.

    My two inexpensive but seemingly very effective brushes...


    IMAG0981 by waxteeth, on Flickr

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    Your two brushes have blossomed very well! ...and besides ... for now you are Chairman of the Boar! How cool is that?
    Eric V

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric V View Post
    . for now you are Chairman of the Boar! How cool is that?

    Hahahaha! Indeed, I am Chairman of the Boar. I had not noticed that.

    Very nice.

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    I face lather too and find that squeezing a fair amount of water out of my brush before loading it with soap or cream gives me more control of the thickness of the lather. If it feels too dry on my face then I just wet the tips of the brush in water again as I go. Having too much water in the brush to start with makes for a thin and sloppy lather.

    Your comments about how you hold your razor are interesting - I'm using a pretty sharp blade at the moment (Astra SP) and will try your technique tomorrow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alumblock View Post

    Your comments about how you hold your razor are interesting - I'm using a pretty sharp blade at the moment (Astra SP) and will try your technique tomorrow!
    Let me know what you think....

    I used an Astra in the Lord L6 last week and have a Feather in the Tech right now.

 

 

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