actually i got feather with a purchase a while ago , i assume it was new , but it was terrible--other than that i have not found another bad one, i have used, Bic Chrom plats.,personna reds, Astra sp. in my SS, R41 and 1904 and just tried Derby's. and they worked great in my DE89L------- i have , merkurs, 7' 0 clock blues, to try next