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Gillette Adjustable mechanics ?

JimmyHAD

JimmyHAD

I picked up a '58 fat boy . It is a good shave and functions flawlessly until ...... the adjustment ring only goes to 7. :a52:

It turns freely with the requisite clicking until it gets to just before the 7 and then it stops cold. Anyone have any ideas on how I might repair this ?

I have soaked the razor in Scrubbing Bubbles and Mineral Oil. I have also sprayed a lubricant in it with no improvement. It is a gold plated razor so boiling is out. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
 
JimmyHAD

JimmyHAD

Okay now I get it. It does not go negative. It functions perfectly up until the 7. I imagine that there is either gunk in it or a fragment of the mechanism broken off in there.
 
DustBow

DustBow

I've heard of people using lighter fluid in situations like this - for soaking, not igniting.
WD-40 didn't work?
You could also try soaking it in very-hot-but-not-boiling water.
A vinegar mix might not be a good idea with the lacquer either.
I could give it a couple cycles thru my ultrasonic cleaner for you.

I guess the question is do you need it to go up to 7 or 8 or 9?

Mine go up to eleven :biggrin: :001_tt2:
 
zachster

zachster

I think I saw a thread about this last year. If I recall, you can re-set the dial by pushing in the little recessed indicator thing with a pin and turniong the dial either to 1 or to 9. But I can't remember for sure. You might want to search for that thread...
 
JimmyHAD

JimmyHAD

zachster said:
I think I saw a thread about this last year. If I recall, you can re-set the dial by pushing in the little recessed indicator thing with a pin and turning the dial either to 1 or to 9. But I can't remember for sure. You might want to search for that thread...
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Thanks for the tip. I gave it a try and no luck. If worse comes to worse I will leave it as is. I don't need to dial up to 8 or 9 anyhow. I just like things to work the way they are supposed to.
 
fritz

fritz

Slant-Fan said:
Thanks for the tip. I gave it a try and no luck. If worse comes to worse I will leave it as is. I don't need to dial up to 8 or 9 anyhow. I just like things to work the way they are supposed to.
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If you open the silo doors, can you then take it up to 9? If that doesn't work, try this:
1) Open the silo doors.
2) Set dial at 1.
3) Hold razor looking at the 1. Insert index finger of each hand through side opening of doors. Put thumb of each hand on the part of the base that has the date code stamped on it.
4) Push up with thumbs (squeeze fingers and thumbs toward each other). The blade platform should rise, and you should see a gap open above the adjustment ring.
5) Try to turn to 9.

If successful, you're done. If it still stops at 7, then you need to remove interior crud still. Squirt handle full of WD-40, or Liquid Wrench if you have it. Also Goo-Gone sometimes works well. Squirt in from the top, down the hole in the center of the base plate. Let soak a little while. Repeat steps 2 through 5 above, pushing up hard in step 4.

If that doesn't work, try to see if you can tell what keeps the blade platform from lifting up all the way. If the blade platform is going up as far as it can, then the problem is something in the adjustment ring travel. If so, you may have to take apart to fix it. :frown: The good news is, the D's and E's can be taken apart.
 
Dennis

Dennis

You are lucky. I believe the 1958 Fat Boys (first year, I believe) have a nut on the bottom that you can loosen. The nut was replaced with a crimped washer or similar that is about impossible to remove with damaging it on the later ones (I have a 1960).

Dennis
 
JimmyHAD

JimmyHAD

fritz said:
If you open the silo doors, can you then take it up to 9? If that doesn't work, try this:
1) Open the silo doors.
2) Set dial at 1.
3) Hold razor looking at the 1. Insert index finger of each hand through side opening of doors. Put thumb of each hand on the part of the base that has the date code stamped on it.
4) Push up with thumbs (squeeze fingers and thumbs toward each other). The blade platform should rise, and you should see a gap open above the adjustment ring.
5) Try to turn to 9.

If successful, you're done. If it still stops at 7, then you need to remove interior crud still. Squirt handle full of WD-40, or Liquid Wrench if you have it. Also Goo-Gone sometimes works well. Squirt in from the top, down the hole in the center of the base plate. Let soak a little while. Repeat steps 2 through 5 above, pushing up hard in step 4.

If that doesn't work, try to see if you can tell what keeps the blade platform from lifting up all the way. If the blade platform is going up as far as it can, then the problem is something in the adjustment ring travel. If so, you may have to take apart to fix it. :frown: The good news is, the D's and E's can be taken apart.
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Thanks Fritz for the excellent instructions. It is going as far as it can go . I will await Ontario's instructions for disassembly and see if I can fix it. Or I will leave it as is. :rolleyes:
 
fritz

fritz

Slant-Fan said:
Thanks Fritz for the excellent instructions. It is going as far as it can go . I will await Ontario's instructions for disassembly and see if I can fix it. Or I will leave it as is. :rolleyes:
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Bummer. It may have been left at 6 or 7 for a long time, and lime built up at the top part of the threads that the index ring rises up on.
If that were the problem, soaking overnight in 1 part white vinegar to 5 parts water (room temp) should help. I know that this does not hurt the clear-coat on the Merkurs, because I have cleaned my gold Futur and Slant this way. Can't speak for the coating on a vintage Gillette, of course.
 
JimmyHAD

JimmyHAD

fritz said:
Bummer. It may have been left at 6 or 7 for a long time, and lime built up at the top part of the threads that the index ring rises up on.
If that were the problem, soaking overnight in 1 part white vinegar to 5 parts water (room temp) should help. I know that this does not hurt the clear-coat on the Merkurs, because I have cleaned my gold Futur and Slant this way. Can't speak for the coating on a vintage Gillette, of course.
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Thanks once again Fritz. I may resort to that but first I am going to wait for Ontario to email the disassembly instructions. When I get them I will decide If I want to risk taking it apart for cleaning. If I can get it apart a soft toothbrush on the threads may do it. Then there is getting it back together ..... If it is no worse then a Vision I will be able to do it.
 
Rick Sparks

Rick Sparks

I'm really new to this whole DE world, so take this with the proverbial grain of salt. I had a Fat Boy that had exactly the same problem. Turned fine to 7, and actually just a tad past 7, but no further. I soaked it for days and oiled it and still it wouldn't go any farther. So I wrapped the adjuster ring with a cloth and took hold of it with a pair of pliers and turned it just a tiny bit more. Then I turned it to 1 and back and it went almost to 8. A few more times making mini micron turns with cloth and pliers and I eventually got it all the way to 9. Let me reiterate here. I would crank it just a hair past wherever it stopped, then rewind it to one and try again. It has worked fine ever since. I can just hear more educated afficionados screaming "NO!" but this is what worked for me. My guess is that whatever petrified crud was holding it stuck was impervious to soaking and Brake Free. So I grabbed my pliers and broke it free one silly millimeter at a time. Anyway, if you can't take it apart, if nothing else works and you can't take it anymore....
 
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