Results 1 to 20 of 20

Thread: Need advice considering safety razor - neck irritation problem :(

  1. #1

    Default Need advice considering safety razor - neck irritation problem :(

    Hello,

    you may call me a semi-experienced safety razor user. I've tested Slant bars, had feather all stainless and I'm using recently small Featler all portable razor.

    The problem with my beard is, I have very flat groving hair on my neck. The whiskers grow on irregular directions and while I manage to get BBS without irritation on my chicks and chins, I always get irritation on the place on my neck, where my hairs are growing upward.

    That's the reason I switched to straights. unfortunately due to lack of time required to shaving with straight I decided to get back to safeties again.

    the funny thing is, I've never had any irritation when shaving with straight even on my neck (the reason for that is that I was able to adjust the blade to very short angle hence no irritation).

    I tried to copy that motion with my feather portable, unfortunately I'm unable to obtain such a small angle as with straights. The portable is the only safety I got at the moment and I would like you to advise me some straight which maybe will fix my neck-irritation problem.

    I consider getting feather AS again but I'm afraid the problem with not sufficient angle will return (I love the design and craftmanship, though ;)). I also consider slant (but I was always a bloody mess after the shaving).

    Could you advice me something ? I'm not interested on the second market or used safeties - only brand new.

    Thanks in advance for any replies.

  2. #2

    Default

    Hi, I've got the same issue with my neck. I get great results on my face, but my neck hairs are all over the place!

    I'd go vintage, maybe a Gillette TECH. I've heard they are quite mild. I have found a mild shaver helps with my neck.

    Good luck

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Phoenix
    Posts
    503

    Default

    I don't get a lot of irritation on my neck...but I had a terrible time getting the whiskers in the hollows. Repeated passes made me kinda sore there.

    I went with more "aggressive" razors: my Slim Adjustable turned up to 9, and I also bought a Merkur 37c Slant.

    I got much better results with the Slim; but had trouble with the Slant...for awhile.

    I came back to the Slant and somehow figured it out (weird as it sounds, shaving w/o a mirror taught me a lot!). Now I get very close and comfortable shaves on my entire neck. The Slant with either Feather or Personna Med Prep blades is very effective---usually in only two passes.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Connecticut via Essex, MA
    Posts
    3,668

    Default

    AZRICHTER has it right.

    This is a very common problem. It's one that I share with you. The best solution for me was to use aggressive razors with sharp blades. A Slim or Fatboy opened all the way up to 9 and used with a nice, sharp blade (for me that's an ASTRA SP or Feather) is the only real solution. It's not magic, though. I still have to have good slick lather and prep, but this is the only way I can get the angle just right to get an irritation-free shave on my neck. I can get BBS with no irritation in two strokes and a little touch up. A Slant or Red Tip with those blades provides good results, too, but the stroke pattern must be altered a bit with the Slant (compared to the vintage Gillettes).

    I have tried LOADS of various other makes and models of safety razors, but only the ones mentioned above really suit the task for me. I can get by with other razors, but it takes a much more meticulous, almost pensive, approach that really takes away from my shave-joy.
    Is this your homework, Larry?

  5. #5
    Thread Starter

    Default

    It's comforting that I'm not alone with the problem :)

    I guess I should give a slant another try. Scary as hell but I liked that little maniac :)

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    308

    Default Be Aggressive

    +1 the irritation comes from going over the same spots again with a 'mild razor' - the worst burn I ever had was from a flare tip SS. Open combs are always an option - they are better at finding those spots, but of course, YMMV. The most aggressive 'safety' I've ever tried is the lowly Turkish YUMA which has a laughably huge exposure and gap - it only looks like a safety bar, because in practice it is just a naked blade on your face - If you are comfortable already with str8s I suggest you get one - I predict you will be impressed by the results - it'll only set you back $2.50![QUOTE=Walter Sobchak;3181412]AZRICHTER has it right.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails DSC00044.JPG  

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Gettysburg, PA
    Posts
    542
    Images
    32

    Default

    Have you tried a single-edge? I would say try a 1912 Gem or Ever-Ready with a good blade.

  8. #8
    Thread Starter

    Default

    Hmm... so do you think I should try open comb ?Would you rate it more aggressive then the slant ?

    @BowTieGuy: thanks for the advice mate, but I would rather stick with something more traditional (I got a lot of feather blades to use up ;)

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Waterloo Iowa
    Posts
    449

    Default

    I have some trouble on my neck too. The best way for me is to shave up for two passes. I then go back and do some touch up. The razor I have had most luck with is the Merkur HD. I have never used a Merkur open comb, but it could be a good chance to try one. Overall I don't think open combs are more aggresive than other razors.
    Last edited by ari95; 05-31-2011 at 05:08 PM. Reason: added text
    -Matthew-

    " I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean "bad"?"

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Albertville, Minnesota
    Posts
    180

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ryan2022 View Post
    Hi, I've got the same issue with my neck. I get great results on my face, but my neck hairs are all over the place!

    I'd go vintage, maybe a Gillette TECH. I've heard they are quite mild. I have found a mild shaver helps with my neck.

    Good luck
    I totally agree. The hair on my neck grows in kind of a sideways swirling pattern. When I switched to a Gillette Tech from a Superspeed, it almost completely eliminated my irritation. Also try a less harsh blade than the Feather. I had no luck with them on my neck. I use the Yellow Gillette 7 o'clock paired with the Tech and it is so nice! Good luck!

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Pompano Beach, FL
    Posts
    708

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    AZRICHTER has it right.

    This is a very common problem. It's one that I share with you. The best solution for me was to use aggressive razors with sharp blades. A Slim or Fatboy opened all the way up to 9 and used with a nice, sharp blade (for me that's an ASTRA SP or Feather) is the only real solution. It's not magic, though. I still have to have good slick lather and prep, but this is the only way I can get the angle just right to get an irritation-free shave on my neck. I can get BBS with no irritation in two strokes and a little touch up. A Slant or Red Tip with those blades provides good results, too, but the stroke pattern must be altered a bit with the Slant (compared to the vintage Gillettes).

    I have tried LOADS of various other makes and models of safety razors, but only the ones mentioned above really suit the task for me. I can get by with other razors, but it takes a much more meticulous, almost pensive, approach that really takes away from my shave-joy.
    I find the same thing, especially on 48 hours growth, aggressive = less irritation in my neck hollows. I haven't quite gotten to the point where I love the slant, it's still giving me more nicks than the Fat Boy or Slim on 9, but both helped my neck irritation quite a bit.
    Jason

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    South Dakota (the warm one)
    Posts
    178

    Default

    As a bearded man I only shave my neck. I do well with all types, but for those hairs that grow at peculiar angles it is hard to beat an open comb. They just seem to guide the hairs toward the blade.
    ...Moldy Russell's Wort

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    North Carolina - Sabtieh-Beirut, Lebanon
    Posts
    2,805

    Default

    i was straight shaver for many years before converting to chaving and eventually back to de and se safety razor shaving. i had/have the exact same problem as u. i no longer even attempt a bbs neck shave, i go strictly dfs. no irritation and no visible stubble.
    BOTOC, Arkolyte, TOFLAC-U, Muhle R41 (2010)- Merkur Progress, Merkur 37 Slant, Simpsons Wee Scot lover,Omega Pro boar, Arko & Gada face latherer.
    SUPPORT B&B BUCK A SALE.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Stevensville, MI
    Posts
    22

    Default

    You might consider a Feather Artist Club if you like a straight razor shave but don't have the time. They use disposable blades so there is no need to strop. I can usually do good 3-pass shave with the AC in the same amount of time that it takes me to do a 4-pass shave with a DE.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    NJ
    Posts
    29,772
    Images
    2

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BowTieGuy View Post
    Have you tried a single-edge? I would say try a 1912 Gem or Ever-Ready with a good blade.
    i use my 1912, its my only solution to neck iritation
    Steward in the B&B Shave Clinic & Newbie Check-In forum - Click here for Hall Of Fame

    I can't hardly wait for tomorrow to come so I can shave again.

  16. #16

    Default

    Like others I have a similar problem with neck irritation. After reading the entry below at the bruceonshaving blog, I bought a Wilkinson Sword Classic DE razor (Ebay). For me, it provided excellent results, allowing me to buff against the grain for a smooth shave with no irritation as described in the blog entry. Definitely worth trying since the razor only costs about $14 USD shipped.

    http://www.bruceonshaving.com/2010/1...ssic-de-razor/

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Phoenix
    Posts
    503

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by alex2363 View Post
    i use my 1912, its my only solution to neck iritation
    +1 I have great success with either the 1912 or a Gem Featherweight and Treet blade

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Southern Indiana
    Posts
    2,193
    Images
    2

    Default

    My neck irritation problems cleared up when I started preparing my shaving soap differently. I need the slickness of a creamier shaving cream as opposed to the airiness of foamy shave cream (I don't understood how Gillette's "Foamy" was supposed to be appealing). Combined with my Perfect Blade, a Russian made Gillette Super Blue, I no longer have any problems with my flat, omni-directional neck hairs. They just come right off with no irritation.
    “Trying to be happy by accumulating possessions is like trying to satisfy hunger by taping sandwiches all over your body.” -George Carlin
    My Collection: http://rtccom.net/~sledge/Razors

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    308

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by jsj_297 View Post
    i was straight shaver for many years before converting to chaving and eventually back to de and se safety razor shaving. i had/have the exact same problem as u. i no longer even attempt a bbs neck shave, i go strictly dfs. no irritation and no visible stubble.
    Invisible stubble is ALWAYS better than a visible rash!

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Undisclosed Location
    Posts
    4,770
    Images
    14

    Default

    Different things work for different folks.
    My neck issues ended with the Feather AS-D1.
    After retraining myself to use a steeper handle angle
    thereby reducing the blade angle, I get a consistent BBS
    that is irritation free using a Feather blade.

    If you move away from the Feather blades, you would not
    have any problems finding them a new home.

    Good luck on your quest......
    Vintage Stainless

Similar Threads

  1. Skin irritation and razor bumps on neck.
    By Rawmax in forum Shave Clinic & Newbie Check-In
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 03-09-2011, 06:24 PM
  2. Newbie - Need Advice on Neck Cuts/Irritation.
    By mitchnewy in forum Shave Clinic & Newbie Check-In
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 12-03-2010, 10:40 AM
  3. Neck irritation--should I consider a milder razor?
    By Mr. Igg in forum Double Edged Razors
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 10-13-2009, 03:56 PM
  4. How I got rid of razor irritation on my neck.
    By O.G. in forum Shave Clinic & Newbie Check-In
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 08-24-2009, 10:05 PM
  5. Advice? Irritation on neck
    By drpeachfuzz in forum Shave Clinic & Newbie Check-In
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 02-28-2009, 08:07 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
By accessing Badger & Blade, you agree to abide by the Terms of Usage. You can find our Privacy Policy here.
Once submitted, any posts, images, or content become the property of Badger & Blade.
Powered by vBulletin® - Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.