Well i finally ordered a straight from larry at whipped dog. Nice razor and has a great edge on it. I finally shaved with it and not bad at all. I haven't developed any technique with a straight I know that it will soon. It wasn't the best shave I had to finish and touch up with my safety razor. I had less irritation than when I first shaved with a safety razor. I guess that using a safety really helped with technique for the straight. I only got two small weepers. I'm hooked on straight shaving now.