Seriously, I don't have any problems whipping up a good lather with TOBS soap or cream, or proraso. No matter what I do with the OBR soaps, I can't get anything but a crappy thin lather that disappears almost before my eyes. I actually put foam all over the mirror the other day when I threw my shaving brush back into the mug in frustration. Does anyone else have the same problem with these amazing smelling soaps?