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Vietnam War Statistics

A good friend sent me this - I really needed a reminder..............


In case you haven't been paying attention these past few decades after you returned from Vietnam, the clock has been ticking. The following are some statistics that are at once depressing yet, in a larger sense, should give you a HUGE SENSE OF PRIDE.

"Of the 2,709,918 Americans who served in Vietnam, less than 850,000 are estimated to be alive today, with the youngest American Vietnam veteran's age approximated to be 54 years old." So, if you're alive and reading this, how does it feel to be among the last 1/3 of all the U.S. vets who served in Vietnam?
I don't know about you guys, but kinda gives me the chills, considering this is the kind of information I'm used to reading about WWII and Korean War vets.
So, the last 14 years, we are dying too fast, only a few will survive by 2015, if any. If true, 390 VN vets die a day. So, in 2190 days from today, if you're a live Vietnam veteran, you are lucky... in only 6 years. These statistics were taken from a variety of sources to include: The VFW Magazine, the Public Information Office, and the HQ CP Forward Observer - 1st Recon April 12, 1997.

STATISTICS FOR INDIVIDUALS IN UNIFORM AND IN COUNTRY VIETNAM VETERANS:
* 9,087,000 military personnel served on active duty during the Vietnam Era (August 5, 1964 - May 7, 1975).
* 8,744,000 GIs were on active duty during the war (Aug 5, 1964-March 28,1973).
* 2,709,918 Americans served in Vietnam, this number represents 9.7% of their generation.
* 3,403,100 (Including 514,300 offshore) personnel served in the broader Southeast Asia Theater (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, flight crews based in Thailand, and sailors in adjacent South China Sea waters).
* 2,594,000 personnel served within the borders of South Vietnam (Jan. 1,1965 - March 28, 1973). Another 50,000 men served in Vietnam between 1960 and 1964.
* Of the 2.6 million, between 1-1.6 million (40-60%) either fought in combat, provided close support or were at least fairly regularly exposed to enemy attack.
* 7,484 women (6,250 or 83.5% were nurses) served in Vietnam.
* Peak troop strength in Vietnam: 543,482 (April 30, 1968).

CASUALTIES:
The first man to die in Vietnam was James Davis, in 1958. He was with the 509th Radio Research Station. Davis Station in Saigon was named for him.
Hostile deaths: 47,378
Non-hostile deaths: 10,800
Total: 58,202 (Includes men formerly classified as MIA and Mayaguez casualties). Men who have subsequently died of wounds account for the changing total.
8 nurses died -- 1 was KIA.
61% of the men killed were 21 or younger.
11,465 of those killed were younger than 20 years old.
Of those killed, 17,539 were married.
Average age of men killed: 23.1 years
Total Deaths: 23.11 years
Enlisted: 50,274 - 22.37 years
Officers: 6,598 - 28.43 years
Warrants: 1,276 - 24.73 years
E1: 525 - 20.34 years
11B MOS(Infantryman): 18,465 - 22.55 years
Five men killed in Vietnam were only 16 years old.
The oldest man killed was 62 years old.
Highest state death rate: West Virginia - 84.1% (national average 58.9% for every 100,000 males in 1970).
Wounded: 303,704 -- 153,329 hospitalized + 150,375 injured requiring no hospital care.
Severely disabled: 75,000, -- 23,214: 100% disabled; 5,283 lost limbs; 1,081 sustained multiple amputations.
Amputation or crippling wounds to the lower extremities were 300% higher than in WWII and 70% higher than Korea.
Multiple amputations occurred at the rate of 18.4% compared to 5.7% in WWII.
Missing in Action: 2,338
POWs: 766 (114 died in captivity)
As of January 15, 2004, there are 1,875 Americans still unaccounted for from the Vietnam War.

DRAFTEES VS. VOLUNTEERS:
25% (648,500) of total forces in country were draftees. (66% of U.S. armed forces members were drafted during WWII).
Draftees accounted for 30.4% (17,725) of combat deaths in Vietnam.
Reservists killed: 5,977
National Guard: 6,140 served: 101 died.
Total draftees (1965 - 73): 1,728,344.
Actually served in Vietnam: 38% Marine Corps Draft: 42,633.
Last man drafted: June 30, 1973.

RACE AND ETHNIC BACKGROUND:
88.4% of the men who actually served in Vietnam were Caucasian; 10.6% (275,000) were black; 1% belonged to other races.
86.3% of the men who died in Vietnam were Caucasian (includes Hispanics).
12.5% (7,241) were black; 1.2% belonged to other races.
170,000 Hispanics served in Vietnam; 3,070 (5.2% of total) died there.
70% of enlisted men killed were of northwest European descent.
86.8% of the men who were killed as a result of hostile action were Caucasian; 12.1% (5,711) were black; 1.1% belonged to other races.
14.6% (1,530) of non-combat deaths were among blacks.
34% of blacks who enlisted volunteered for the combat arms.
Overall, blacks suffered 12.5% of the deaths in Vietnam at a time when the percentage of blacks of military age was 13.5% of the total population.
Religion of Dead: Protestant -- 64.4%; Catholic -- 28.9%; other/none -- 6.7%
SOCIO-ECONOMIC STATUS:
Vietnam veterans have a lower unemployment rate than the same non-vet age groups.
Vietnam veterans' personal income exceeds that of our non-veteran age group by more than 18 percent.
76% of the men sent to Vietnam were from lower middle/working class backgrounds.
Three-fourths had family incomes above the poverty level; 50% were from middle income backgrounds.
Some 23% of Vietnam vets had fathers with professional, managerial or technical occupations.
79% of the men who served in Vietnam had a high school education or better when they entered the military service.
63% of Korean War vets and only 45% of WWII vets had completed high school upon separation.
Deaths by region per 100,000 of population: South -- 31%, West --29.9%; Midwest -- 28.4%; Northeast -- 23.5%.

DRUG USAGE & CRIME:
There is no difference in drug usage between Vietnam veterans and non-Vietnam veterans of the same age group. (Source: Veterans Administration Study)
Vietnam veterans are less likely to be in prison - only one-half of one percent of Vietnam veterans have been jailed for crimes.
85% of Vietnam veterans made successful transitions to civilian life.

WINNING & LOSING:
82% of veterans who saw heavy combat strongly believe the war was lost because of lack of political will.
Nearly 75% of the public agrees it was a failure of political will, not of arms.

HONORABLE SERVICE:
97% of Vietnam-era veterans were honorably discharged.
91% of actual Vietnam War veterans and 90% of those who saw heavy combat are proud to have served their country.
74% say they would serve again, even knowing the outcome.
87% of the public now holds Vietnam veterans in high esteem.

INTERESTING CENSUS STATISTICS & THOSE "WANNABEES" TO CLAIM TO HAVE "Been There":
1,713,823 of those who served in Vietnam were still alive as of August,1995 (census figures).
During that same Census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming to have served in-country was: 9,492,958.
As of the current Census taken during August, 2000, the surviving U.S. Vietnam veteran population estimate is: 1,002,511. This is hard to believe, losing nearly 711,000 between '95 and '00. That's 390 per day.
During this Census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming to have served in-country is: 13,853,027. By this census, FOUR OUT OF FIVE WHO CLAIM TO BE Vietnam vets are not.
The Department of Defense Vietnam War Service Index officially provided by The War Library originally reported with errors that 2,709,918 U.S. military personnel as having served in-country. Corrections and confirmations to this erred index resulted in the addition of 358 U.S. military personnel confirmed to have served in Vietnam but not originally listed by the Department of Defense. (All names are currently on file and accessible 24/7/365).
Isolated atrocities committed by American soldiers produced torrents of outrage from anti-war critics and the news media while communist atrocities were so common that they received hardly any media mention at all. The United States sought to minimize and prevent attacks on civilians while North Vietnam made attacks on civilians a centerpiece of its strategy. Americans who deliberately killed civilians received prison sentences while communists who did so received commendations.
From 1957 to 1973, the National Liberation Front assassinated 36,725 Vietnamese and abducted another 58,499. The death squads focused on leaders at the village level and on anyone who improved the lives of the peasants such as medical personnel, social workers, and school teachers. - Nixon Presidential Papers.
Any man or woman who may be asked in this century what they did to make life worthwhile in their lifetime ... can respond with a great deal of pride and satisfaction, "I served in the United States Military."
 
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Steve:
Very well said...1st class post. :thumbup1:

It pains and makes my mad :mad5: as hell to think that there are so many 'nuttleheads' and 'fakers' out there who have the ordasity to claim sevice in our Armed Forces...when there has been none. :mad3:

Shame on those persons to have claimed Service, for they have not only insulted and dishonored our Nation, our Armed Forces, our Way of Life and themselves (not that they care anyways), but especially those who gave up all their tomorrows...so we could have our today's!!!

Being a gentelman, I will refrain from what I think should be done with such 'trash and dirtbags', but I will proudly tell them that I will fight for my country again...because "I served in the United States Military."

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Christopher
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My hat's off to anyone who served in Vietnam, and to those who didn't make it back. There are many, many good books written about the War and about various aspects of the War, covering it from many different angles and points of view. Again, my hat's off to anyone who had to serve there.
 
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Fascinating. While there are many people I know that are WWII buffs, or Civil War enthusiasts, I am the only person I know that considers himself a "Vietnam Buff".

It is the war our fathers fought, or fought against. Some of our members surely fought there themselves. It was culturally more significant even than WWII. And many of the men and women who served and survived are still here to talk about their experiences.

Great post.
 
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I enlisted in the USAF in Dec 68 to avoid the draft, commissioned in July 69.

The Air Force decided to send me to Turkey for two years instead of a short tour in Vietnam, so never set foot in SEA.

Do I regret it, no, but if called would have gone!

Had I gone I would have been in a very low risk location, one of the few larger hospitals, thus very well protected.
 

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Thanks for sharing this Steve, I was 10 years old when Saigon fell. Yet I can still remember sitting in front of the TV at night with my folks watching it on the news.

I have done a lot of study on that war, and have had the pleasure of talking to many vets about their experience. Everyone seems to say that is a taboo war and the vets do not want to talk about it. I have found the opposite to be true. Every vet I have asked to talk about their experience in the war was happy to do so.

For someone like myself who was just old enough to remember 1975 it was a very rewarding experience to talk to these guys. I got some grusome tales but the part that really amazed me is how many Vets said how bored they were all the damn time. One Vet told me when they would go out on patrol he would actually hope for a firefight to break the boredom of just walking day after day like mindless zombies. Those are the type of stories that I found amazing. I assumed you spent every waking moment in fear for your life. Not walking around bored.

Any way you guys have my deepest respect and thanks for what you did.:thumbup:

I also want to give a big shout out to all those that are currently keeping our country safe. And all the rest who have given their time in other wars or in peace time. Thank You, Thank You.
 
Man, it's hard to imagine that so much time has gone by. When I was a kid, I remember the nightly news always showing one of the correspondents broadcasting live from Vietnam. One of the images that stayed with me was of an Army APC on a road, the gunner firing arcoss rice paddies into a treeline while the reporter did his standup.

By the time I joined the Marines, there wasn't anybody at the Company level below the rank of Staff NCO who had been to Vietmam, and the only officers who had been were Mustangs. Still, it all seemed so close. Once in a while you'd run into a legendary guy who had been awarded the Medal of Honor. It must have been what it felt like to meet Dan Daly in a bar.

Now it all slips back into history. The young folks have the reins, as it should be. But even as it begins to fade in our national consciousness, becoming as much myth as memory, it'll never be forgotten. There are people and places who always keep these stories alive.
 
Vietnam was the war I would have served in had I been drafted. However, four years before graduation from college, I applied for Conscientious Objector status. My application was accepted and I went to work in a mental hospital for two years as part of the nursing staff. If my application had not been accepted, I was prepared to go to jail but it never came to that.
 
can't say i was in Vietnam. or any war for tha matter. but my father served in Vietnam. thank you for posting this. it means a lot to me. and when i show my dad. i'm sure it'll mean a lot to him aswell
 
"Of the 2,709,918 Americans who served in Vietnam, less than 850,000 are estimated to be alive today, with the youngest American Vietnam veteran's age approximated to be 54 years old."

This was the most eyebrow raising statistic for me. Is this generation simply getting that old where they are dying of natural causes this much? I would expect many to have passed, but not nearly 70% of them. My question is how many have died prematurely because of the war....or said another way if one considered a cross section of people (mainly men) of same ages who did not serve, I wonder what their mortality rate would be.
 
Exposure to agent orange is taking a huge, huge toll. From various cancers, diabetes type II on through to ischemic heart disease. I just lost a very good friend and fellow nam Vet a few weeks ago to AO. Infantryman, 196th LIB.
 

garyg

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This was the most eyebrow raising statistic for me. Is this generation simply getting that old where they are dying of natural causes this much? I would expect many to have passed, but not nearly 70% of them. My question is how many have died prematurely because of the war....or said another way if one considered a cross section of people (mainly men) of same ages who did not serve, I wonder what their mortality rate would be.

I'd wonder also, as one from that era. Just thinking about the vets I know, there are as many gone as still here.
 
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