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Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Oscar De La Hoya

Mayweather already seems to have the mental edge. DLH has a burr under his saddle, and he'll probably over-commit to try to punish Mayweather.

If Mayweather gets sloppy - DLH wins by KO midway through the fight.
If DLH overcommits on the attack - Mayweather decision.

Bottom line - I would love to see DLH win, but if I was betting I'd put it on Mayweather.
 

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Some great analysis here. What's great about boxing is that things may seem to be one way on paper, then when the guys get into the ring reality sets in. It's all about styles and matchups.

Why is that rookie George Foreman even in the ring with heavyweight champ Joe Frazier? Within seconds, it became apparent that Joe was taylor made for George.

DLH has fought more quality opponents, while Floyd is less of a natural middlewight. He's very talented, but moving up in weight changes the dynamics. Even the great Henry Armstrong, who simultaneously held titles at 126, 135, and 147, failed in his quest for the middleweight crown, albeit not by much.
 
Mayweather wins in the fourth round by TKO.

My reasoning :biggrin:

Seriously fast combination puncher with a jab that seems to get thru the best defense. I reckon he will cut de la Hoya and the fight will be stopped due to de la Hoya being unable to defend himself as a result of his eyesight being reduced due to blood. KO is unlikely due to the lower bodyweight and speed of the fighters. That is unless they start showboating and a dropped guard lets a good hook or uppercut thru.

I just have a feeling :rolleyes:

I'll put £10 on at the bookies for Mayweather, 4th round, TKO.

My bookie gives me odds of 15-1

Makes me think he might agree with me that it could be TKO early to mid way but won't commit completely to a round. :001_rolle

Cheers

Mat
 

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Good luck, Mat. I'll pay extra attention in the fourth round.:thumbup1:
 
do you all think that boxing is dying and this fight might have been the Savoir or the Boxing World ???

I read an article about this yesterday. It stated what fine youg athlete would like to go into a sport with crooked promoters and managers and many other unscrupolous people to get thier head pounded on and with mental repercussions later on...

Perhaps a scholarship to a University and play basketball is a much better sport...or baseball....

Not trying to hijack this thread, but this article touted this fight as boxing last hope...

Your thoughts....

mark tssb
 
Boxing is not dead, but it's on life support for sure. I don't think there will ever be a drought in lower-class, uneducated, convict immirgrants to display for marquee matches in Las Vegas or AC, but the world in general just won't care that they want to pummel each other for the sake of filling a crooked promoter's pockets.

BTW, that fight was awesome.
 
I'm certainly no Bert Sugar. That being said, I've followed boxing fairly regularly over the last ten or so years. IMHO, boxing has suffered due to the lack of solid heavyweights. Like them or not, Tyson, Lennox Lewis, Holyfield and Douglas created a lot of fan-fare for the sport. They were the ones that got me excited about the "big fights" years ago. They came to fight with a big reputation behind them, which definately adds to the excitement of the bout. I'm very hopeful that new and skillful heavyweights will emerge soon to inject some new excitement.
 
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do you all think that boxing is dying and this fight might have been the Savoir or the Boxing World ???

I read an article about this yesterday. It stated what fine youg athlete would like to go into a sport with crooked promoters and managers and many other unscrupolous people to get thier head pounded on and with mental repercussions later on...

Perhaps a scholarship to a University and play basketball is a much better sport...or baseball....

Not trying to hijack this thread, but this article touted this fight as boxing last hope...

Your thoughts....

mark tssb

Could be.

I am already thinking of getting the Zab Juda fight on PPV.
 
Mayweather wins split decision over De La Hoya

By TIM DAHLBERG, AP Boxing Writer
May 6, 2007

AP - May 6, 1:58 am EDT
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LAS VEGAS (AP) -- Floyd Mayweather Jr. couldn't win over the crowd, or even his own father. All he could win was the only thing that really counted Saturday night, his fight against Oscar De La Hoya.

Boxing's bad boy beat the Golden Boy in one of the richest fights ever, using his superb defensive skills and superior speed to take a 12-round split decision and win the WBC 154-pound title in his first fight at that weight.

He didn't impress the pro-De La Hoya crowd that roared with every punch thrown by their hero, and even Floyd Mayweather Sr. thought his son had lost. But Mayweather landed the harder punches and landed them more often, and that was enough to eke out yet another win.
"It was easy work for me. He was rough and tough, but he couldn't beat the best," Mayweather said. "I was having fun in there. It was a hell of a fight."

The fight that was supposed to save the sport may not have done that, but it was entertaining enough and competitive enough to keep everyone's attention even though neither fighter seemed to hurt the other and neither went down.

Both proud champions fought from the opening bell to the end of the final round, which finished with the brawl De La Hoya wanted all along. But it came too late to help De La Hoya, who lost four of the last five rounds on two scorecards, sealing his fate.

"I could see I was hurting him," De La Hoya said. "I was pressing the fight, and if I hadn't pressed the fight there would be no fight. I'm a champion, and you have to do more than that to beat a champion."

De La Hoya threw far more punches than Mayweather in an almost desperate bid to overcome Mayweather's slippery defense. He trapped Mayweather on the ropes and in the corner almost every round, throwing flurries to his head.

But many more missed than landed, allowing Mayweather to dance away, often after countering with a punch or two of his own.

"I just fought the best fighter in our era and I beat him," Mayweather said.
The sellout crowd of 16,200 that paid a record $19 million gate didn't think so, booing the decision just as it had booed Mayweather when he came into the ring wearing a sombrero on Cinco de Mayo.

And neither did Floyd Mayweather Sr., the estranged father of the undefeated champion and the former trainer of De La Hoya.

"I thought Oscar won the fight on points, threw more punches and was more aggressive," said the senior Mayweather, who munched popcorn as he watched the fight from a $2,000 ringside seat given to him by De La Hoya. "My son had good defense and caught a lot of his punches, but I still thought Oscar pressed enough to win the fight."

Two of the three ringside judges, though, gave the fight to Mayweather, who has never lost in his pro career and won a title for the fifth time in as many weight classes.

AP - May 6, 1:54 am EDT

More PhotosMayweather was favored 116-112 by judge Chuck Giampa and 115-113 by judge Jerry Roth. Judge Tom Kaczmarek had De La Hoya ahead 115-113. The Associated Press had Mayweather winning 116-112.
Because this was boxing, the fight didn't end without some controversy. De La Hoya's corner said it might protest the decision after noticing that the scorecards circulated at ringside had the fighters in the wrong color corners, but the director of the Nevada Athletic Commission said they were correct.

The fight lacked the drama of the slugfest that De La Hoya wanted when he offered Mayweather a chance to make at least $10 million to fight him for the title. De La Hoya made at least $25 million for only his third fight in the last three years.

De La Hoya wanted Mayweather to trade punches in the middle of the ring with him, thinking he would win the fight on power against a fighter who moved up in weight to challenge him.

"The champion in me wanted to stop him," De La Hoya said. "I was just trying to close the show."

The fight ended with the crowd on its feet and two fighters trading punches wildly at the final bell. They then stopped and embraced each other.

In the end, Mayweather was simply faster and more slippery, and landed more punches.

Ringside punching stats heavily favored Mayweather, crediting him with landing 207 of 481 punches to 122 of 587 for De La Hoya. Mayweather also landed more power punches than De La Hoya, outscoring him 138-82.
Mayweather said before the fight that De La Hoya would fade as the fight went on, and it seemed as though he did. He used the jab more early, but got away from it from the eighth round on, giving Mayweather an easier shot at him with right hand leads.

Mayweather had predicted he would dominate De La Hoya and give him a beating, but De La Hoya took his best punches and came back with enough of his own to keep it close. De La Hoya appeared staggered by a right hand with 20 seconds left in the fight, but finished with a flurry as the crowd erupted in delight.

Actually, the crowd cheered wildly every time De La Hoya got Mayweather on the ropes and flailed away. But the punches mostly missed, and Mayweather hopped away, often giving De La Hoya a parting shot to the head.

Mayweather was a 2-1 favorite when the fight was made, but money poured in on De La Hoya and he was a 3-2 underdog by fight time. Still, there was no doubt who the favorite was among the crowd of celebrities and high rollers who paid $2,000 for ringside seats to watch the spectacle.

AP - May 6, 1:54 am EDT
More PhotosDe La Hoya was the aggressor throughout, managing to get through Mayweather's defenses in the early rounds as Mayweather moved away and counterpunched without great effect. Every time Mayweather went near the ropes, De La Hoya tried to trap him there and land a flurry of punches to the body and head.

De La Hoya wanted to get Mayweather into a brawl, but he was having no part of it, content to pick his spots. In the fifth round, however, the fight seemed to shift into a different gear as Mayweather stood his ground and landed some hard combinations to the head.

"He's getting tired. He's getting tired," Mayweather's trainer and uncle, Roger Mayweather, told his fighter after the round.

It was a night of ebb and flow, with both boxers fighting in flurries and both having their moments. The pro-De La Hoya crowd roared loudly anytime he threw a big punch, while Mayweather smiled at his opponent every time De La Hoya landed a punch that got any reaction from his fans. In the end, though, Mayweather's hand was raised in victory. His father got in the ring with him and they embraced. And boxing had survived for one more night.
 
I have another theroy, if I may. The Tyson era began right around the time CCTV was on the outs and HBO PPV was the real deal. We were told that the biggest fights only happen when the PPV was on, and Tyson helped us believe that. I mean, every fight he had on PPV was memorable, right down to when he couldn't find his mouthgaurd against Douglas. Just about ten years of classic PPV boxing matches, and we were sucked in. Promoters knew this, and capitalized. They started charging ridiculous fees to see people like Tyson and Lewis beat the crap out some god aweful competitor. Yet, we believed that this was the best there is, because they told us so.

Soon, there were garbage PPV events every month, sometimes two or three. Now, some people are forced to choose which fight they were going to see, because the average viewer wasn't going to pay $100 a month for crap. The followers seperated, thinned out, and eventually lost interest.

I don't think boxing is lacking a marquee heavyweight. The battle for the undisputed champ is very, very intriguing IMO. But I'm a fan. You can't force casual boxing lovers to commit to $50 a month for developing storylines. And you can't have 40 year old boxers in the ring "saving" boxing for you. I say, focus on the cable fights (HBO, SHO, ESPN2) and promote the hell out of them to get ratings up, and only have maybe one PPV a year until the dust settles. Then you can start making money in boxing again.
 
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