Morris & Forndran Blonde Badger

bmilcs said:

How does the density of the regular stubby 3 compare to an equal width XL knot? Is it somewhere between the Emillion type density and XL?

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This is Rooney Stubby:



It has a medium-high density. The biggest in the Stubby series is the Stubby 3, which has a 26mm knot with medium-high density. The Emillion 2 has a medium-high density 24mm knot, so that would put it on par with the Stubby 2. The Emillion 2 and Stubby 2 are more or less the same knots with different handles. The XL series is the most densely packed of the Rooney/M&F line, depending on which grade of hair you go with from Lee.

Yes, mine looks very similar to the Rooney Style 1 (Stubby 3). Here's another link.
http://www.vintagebladesllc.com/vshop/xcart/product.php?productid=669&cat=170&page=1
Very very close.
I love mine!

brucered said:

You can't compare handles sizes to knots. Some of the XL's or Emillion's have Blonde, some have Heritage, some have Finest, some have 3 band.



Yes, there is was.

I just posted about it in the Classic Shaving thread this morning actually.

Here is my Chubby 2, I guess it's an SC2

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But isn't that a picture of a Stubby or Stubby XL (can't tell dimensions from the picture)? I mean did Rooney ever call them Chubbys?

M&F brushes. Unbelievable!

I cannot express how happy I am with my brushes and already plan to sell most of what I have to fund more. Two band hair is undoubtedly the best for my tastes.

I was thinking of a 3XL but I wanted to get a slightly longer loft for head shaves - improved flow. The 2XL is ideal for face shaves and may end up being great for head shaves but I need a lot of lather. It's crazy how small a 28mm knot feels set at this low of a loft and density. Love it so much!

What are the typical dimensions for the 3XL brushes? Would adding 2mm ruin that beautiful dense feeling? I can't imagine it would impact it much as I see people have several 2xls with a 52 vs 50mm loft. Also does the flow through evolve with more break in time? I'm sure it's been answered already but I haven't had a chance to thoroughly read through the thread.

Thanks guys!

Glad you finally found something that you like and feel comfortable with. I don't believe you will have a problem with flow through in an M&F brush. The flow through on brushes does not typically change with "break-in" anyway. I do believe in a very slight softening of the tips due to usage, but I think that's about all you can expect with "break-in."

The dimensions on my 3XL are as follows:

Knot - 30.5
Loft - 54
Handle - 50

I have a brush in the works with Lee with a 3XL type knot. The one I have on order is going to be 30x52 and will be slightly denser than your typical 3XL. I expect it sometime in early January, but I will be on vacation, so I may not see it until mid-month. Of course I will post pictures and some brief thoughts in this thread as soon as I can.

jwilock said:

But isn't that a picture of a Stubby or Stubby XL (can't tell dimensions from the picture)? I mean did Rooney ever call them Chubbys?

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I don't know what Rooney called them, but it's neither a standard Stubby or XL. The handle's width in relation to its height is greater than that of either a Stubby or XL.

I have no clue what they were called, but most I see(which is rare) are faux bone that have a visible grain to them. I have an M&F version, and it is much wider in girth than an XL line or current Stubby handle. Mine is 2 band and falls between the size of a Simpson CH2 and CH3. A Stubby 2.5!

ChiefBroom said:

I don't know what Rooney called them, but it's neither a standard Stubby or XL. The handle's width in relation to its height is greater than that of either a Stubby or XL.

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I see. Yes it does appear to be a bit "fatter". Were the handle dimensions the same over the course of all the years they made Stubbies?

I think that's exactly what it is. Vintage Blades used to sell them and that is how they were listed there. I have a 1/2 that I bought from them which is identical in shape.

Mr_Smartepants said:

The listing showed it as a "Style 1/3".
knot is : 26 mm
handle is : 50 mm
loft is : 48 mm

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jazzguy said:

I think that's exactly what it is. Vintage Blades used to sell them and that is how they were listed there. I have a 1/2 that I bought from them which is identical in shape.

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+1

Just to avoid confusion, this is with reference to a different handle that the "Chubby" style that has also been under discussion above.

Here's an update on my Emillion 2 & 2XL:

Who doesn't love pictures?

Just WOW!

Bryan - I'm going to have to respectfully ask that you take down those pictures of the butterscotch M&F brush. I have a bad heart, the pics are killing me and I'm too weak to look away.

mielbadger said:

Bryan - I'm going to have to respectfully ask that you take down those pictures of the butterscotch M&F brush. I have a bad heart, the pics are killing me and I'm too weak to look away.

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Hey not the worst way to go

I just received these two beauties in the mail yesterday, but I have not used them yet. I started calling the bigger brush the "Emillion 3XL" because I think it looks like a mashup between those two brushes. The big guy is 32x53mm in Heritage hair and the Victorian has a 75mm handle!!! I am a face latherer but for some reason I love brushes with large handles. I took pictures of them both next to my 2XL for scale (sorry no banana).

NSmalls, All those brushes are horrible. Send them to me, and I will take care of them for you.

Seriously though, they are beauties

NSmalls, those are over the top crazy. I like the way you think! Awesome brushes.

That E3XL is ridiculous. Enjoy!

Thank you very much gentleman! I was waiting to respond before I had a chance to try them both. I've used them both (only once each) and I am very happy with them so far! Happy New Year guys!