Anyone heard of this stuff? Is it new and does it do what it claims to do?
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The *Bluebeards revenge?
- Thread starter Angus Young
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Never heard of it, but it sounds interesting.
Well, anything labelled with a skull and crossbones can't be bad for you, can it?
And stops beard growth..,who knows what other growth side effects might have.
Why would you want to stop beard growth? Then you can't have fun shaving!
I want someone to order it before i do
You couldn't pay me to use it. I don't want my shave cream to eliminate my need to shave.
I can't imagine using a shaving cream that slows beard growth. If anything, I want something that makes it grow faster!
"Decelerine" is a mixture of the following ingredients:
Water (Aqua), Glycerin, Barbados Aloe (Aloe Barbadensis) Leaf Extract, Lauryl Isoquinolinium Bromide, Pseudoalteromonas Ferment Extract, Polyquaternium-37, Disodium EDTA, Isopropyl Alcohol, Sodium Sorbate, Sodium Benzoate, Allantoin, Glucose, Caprylyl Glycol.
Mostly these are face-friendly ingredients designed to soothe the skin. Even the Materials Data Safety Sheet says this stuff is perfectly safe, non-sensitizing, and non-irritating.
My guess is that the Pseudoalteromonas Ferment Extract is the "business end" of Decelerine, in terms of making hairs grow more slowly. Pseudoalteromonas is undoubtedly a microorganism of some sort.
Sounds like a nice shaving cream. I'm one of those "Bluebeard" guys with the wiry, rapidly-growing beard. Even if this stuff worked I would still have to shave every day; might just make the first pass a little simpler.
Water (Aqua), Glycerin, Barbados Aloe (Aloe Barbadensis) Leaf Extract, Lauryl Isoquinolinium Bromide, Pseudoalteromonas Ferment Extract, Polyquaternium-37, Disodium EDTA, Isopropyl Alcohol, Sodium Sorbate, Sodium Benzoate, Allantoin, Glucose, Caprylyl Glycol.
Mostly these are face-friendly ingredients designed to soothe the skin. Even the Materials Data Safety Sheet says this stuff is perfectly safe, non-sensitizing, and non-irritating.
My guess is that the Pseudoalteromonas Ferment Extract is the "business end" of Decelerine, in terms of making hairs grow more slowly. Pseudoalteromonas is undoubtedly a microorganism of some sort.
Sounds like a nice shaving cream. I'm one of those "Bluebeard" guys with the wiry, rapidly-growing beard. Even if this stuff worked I would still have to shave every day; might just make the first pass a little simpler.
I will give these guys points for good marketing... they found my blog and sent me a tub for review 
I'll save the full review for my writeup in Wet Shavers Blog, and I'll say upfront that I don't really care about the claims of whether it stops beard growth or not.
What I care about is does it make good lather, and do I get a good shave with it?
In both cases the answer is a resounding 'yes'. This stuff is very well done.
I'll save the full review for my writeup in Wet Shavers Blog, and I'll say upfront that I don't really care about the claims of whether it stops beard growth or not.
What I care about is does it make good lather, and do I get a good shave with it?
In both cases the answer is a resounding 'yes'. This stuff is very well done.
That makes sense. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoalteromonas says that it's a genus of marine bacteria - but there are many species listed in that genus. I wonder if claiming an effect on hair growth gives the FDA a handle on the maker?
Edit: After a little more research it looks like Lauryl Isoquinolinium Bromide is the purported growth inhibitor (http://www.dermoday.com/dosyalar/1234888016.pdf http://www.infinitec-activos.com/productes.php?prod=24&id=en http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Impede+unwanted+hair+growth-a0207392113 and other sources). http://truthinaging.com/face/what-is-it-pseudoalteromonas-ferment-extract discusses the purported effects of the PFE on skin: basically it's supposed to promote the skin's ability to hold moisture.
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This post is a flat-out copy and paste from my blog -Edit- there are some pics there and links as well, if you'd like to visit.
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I was recently contacted by Nick at the Shaving Shack, the retailer of the new shave cream Bluebeard's Revenge. It's a pretty novel concept being sold - they promise that over time, the cream will actually slow the growth of a man's beard. They claim to have good backing for this claim, though I can't find any actual studies for the ingredients which are supposed to be active here.
They asked if I'd like to try it out, and with a bit of hesitation I agreed. Part of my hesitation was due to the chemical nature of this cream - while it's advertised as being gentle, I worried that the active ingredient "Decelerene" might be a bit rough on my face. I have fairly sensitive skin, and I react with stronger creams and aftershaves sometimes.
I had an excellent exchange with Nick from the Shaving Shack, who assured me that the cream would be gentle and work well for even sensitive skin, so I asked to have a sample sent out. The Shaving Shack actually sent me an entire jar - and QUICKLY. I had heard good things about their shipping, and despite being an overseas vendor, the package arrived withing a few days.
The box and jar are both very attractive and look great right away. Very high quality construction and materials, and the box itself is a pleasure to read.
The consistency of the cream is just about perfect, solid enough to hold up while being scooped but also soft enough to be scoopable and turned into a lather rapidly. The scent was very classic and not overbearing at all - I couldn't quite put my finger on it, so I emailed Nick about the flavor. The following is his answer:
This small dollop made enough lather for 4 passes, with PLENTY left over!!
The cream felt excellent on my face, with no irritation for any of the passes. It softened the beard quite adequately and the lubrication of the razor was just fine. I felt no dragging. On the whole the cream's performance was at or above any other cream I've favored, and maybe even rivals some soaps in terms of protection. After a good 3 pass shave, I pulled a fourth just to see how well the cream could handle being pushed to that limit of protection and lather stability, and came away absolutely satisfied. I felt that it was a bit drying on the first shave, but later shaves proved that to be a fluke (possibly due to the extra pass). It left my skin nice and clean feeling, without excessive dryness at all.
The next day, I decided to give it a try as a brushless cream with a Schick Hydro 5 to emulate my "oh my god I'm late for work" shave standard (lately Proraso green, brushless, with the Hydro 5). It performed fairly well, though it seemed to require more cream to get the job done than I needed to use with a brush.
In terms of quality, performance, and overall satisfaction, this cream rates as highly as any I've used from any of the "big houses". The only issue I would have here is that the price and shipping might be a bit steep for USA customers at this time. The shack DOES offer 1-price shipping, so if you're in the market for more than one item it might be worth jumping in. At £14.99 ($22.32 as of today's exchange) plus £4 for shipping ($6.22), it's an expensive item. Still, it's a very effective cream that I would be happy to purchase myself once my tub runs out.
Special thanks to Nick at the Shaving Shack for the tub of cream and the opportunity to review.
EDIT TO ADD:
Nick from Shaving Shack sent me a link to this PDF about Decelerine just now - http://www.lipotec.com/archivos/Decelerine_E.pdf While interesting, it's a very small sample and not double-blinded, nor is this a "published" study showing efficacy and safety over time. The results also look a bit dubious and pie-in-the-sky. Still, I'm reviewing this as a shaving cream first and foremost, not as a growth inhibitor.
Edit-
I was recently contacted by Nick at the Shaving Shack, the retailer of the new shave cream Bluebeard's Revenge. It's a pretty novel concept being sold - they promise that over time, the cream will actually slow the growth of a man's beard. They claim to have good backing for this claim, though I can't find any actual studies for the ingredients which are supposed to be active here.
They asked if I'd like to try it out, and with a bit of hesitation I agreed. Part of my hesitation was due to the chemical nature of this cream - while it's advertised as being gentle, I worried that the active ingredient "Decelerene" might be a bit rough on my face. I have fairly sensitive skin, and I react with stronger creams and aftershaves sometimes.
I had an excellent exchange with Nick from the Shaving Shack, who assured me that the cream would be gentle and work well for even sensitive skin, so I asked to have a sample sent out. The Shaving Shack actually sent me an entire jar - and QUICKLY. I had heard good things about their shipping, and despite being an overseas vendor, the package arrived withing a few days.
The box and jar are both very attractive and look great right away. Very high quality construction and materials, and the box itself is a pleasure to read.
The consistency of the cream is just about perfect, solid enough to hold up while being scooped but also soft enough to be scoopable and turned into a lather rapidly. The scent was very classic and not overbearing at all - I couldn't quite put my finger on it, so I emailed Nick about the flavor. The following is his answer:
I scooped out a small amount (about the size of an almond) and built a lather with my trusty Badger and Blade Essential brush. It was at this point that I was REALLY impressed by the cream - it lathered like a monster, and was very forgiving of the amount of water used. It had a wide "sweet spot". I added water until the cream broke down a bit, and then started over with a clean mug. I made a killer lather with no real effort.
This small dollop made enough lather for 4 passes, with PLENTY left over!!
The cream felt excellent on my face, with no irritation for any of the passes. It softened the beard quite adequately and the lubrication of the razor was just fine. I felt no dragging. On the whole the cream's performance was at or above any other cream I've favored, and maybe even rivals some soaps in terms of protection. After a good 3 pass shave, I pulled a fourth just to see how well the cream could handle being pushed to that limit of protection and lather stability, and came away absolutely satisfied. I felt that it was a bit drying on the first shave, but later shaves proved that to be a fluke (possibly due to the extra pass). It left my skin nice and clean feeling, without excessive dryness at all.
The next day, I decided to give it a try as a brushless cream with a Schick Hydro 5 to emulate my "oh my god I'm late for work" shave standard (lately Proraso green, brushless, with the Hydro 5). It performed fairly well, though it seemed to require more cream to get the job done than I needed to use with a brush.
In terms of quality, performance, and overall satisfaction, this cream rates as highly as any I've used from any of the "big houses". The only issue I would have here is that the price and shipping might be a bit steep for USA customers at this time. The shack DOES offer 1-price shipping, so if you're in the market for more than one item it might be worth jumping in. At £14.99 ($22.32 as of today's exchange) plus £4 for shipping ($6.22), it's an expensive item. Still, it's a very effective cream that I would be happy to purchase myself once my tub runs out.
Special thanks to Nick at the Shaving Shack for the tub of cream and the opportunity to review.
EDIT TO ADD:
Nick from Shaving Shack sent me a link to this PDF about Decelerine just now - http://www.lipotec.com/archivos/Decelerine_E.pdf While interesting, it's a very small sample and not double-blinded, nor is this a "published" study showing efficacy and safety over time. The results also look a bit dubious and pie-in-the-sky. Still, I'm reviewing this as a shaving cream first and foremost, not as a growth inhibitor.
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Looks like the Shaving Shack is working to get the word out about Bluebeard's. There was another discussion on this last month. Your post should help answer some of the questions about how it performs. 
Sounds interesting, but I do enjoy shaving and I do not want to artificially reduce my natural rate of beard growth over time. Picking up that str8 every AM, making nice warm lather and working it in my face is a ritual I cherish every morning.
I won a contest of theirs along with The Aspiring Gentlemen and recieved a tub. I concur wiht what you have to say about it. It's a very nice, effective cream that rivals the "Three T's", and most other houses. Very slick, protective lather. I hope to write a review myself soon! Cheers!
You know, that's actually something I worry about a bit- I actually like the look I have when I have stubble, and use it sometimes on purpose. I worry that too much use would remove that look from use on weekends etc.
Shallow? Perhaps.
Ooooo! My writeup got a writeup!
http://www.bluebeards-revenge.co.uk/blog/one-of-the-finest-shaving-creams-on-the-market/
http://www.bluebeards-revenge.co.uk/blog/one-of-the-finest-shaving-creams-on-the-market/
You know, that's actually something I worry about a bit- I actually like the look I have when I have stubble, and use it sometimes on purpose. I worry that too much use would remove that look from use on weekends etc.
Shallow? Perhaps.
Well, it's not so much the "looks" I worry about as the longtime health consequences of such regimen...normal hair growth requires normal hormonal control, which as we age, changes. Inhibition of the natural aging/hair growth process probably involves some level of intervention at the hormonal level. Obviously, I will need to 1) see much larger data sets with this "drug" than just the 10 people enrolled in this cohort, and 2) look at the data points a bit more carefully and study the mechanism of action of this drug, if known. Before at least (1), I will not even consider messing with my biology, especially if this may be irreversible.
exactly. I was a bit worried about the study, as I said in the review- it's a small sample, and there was no blinding done at ALL. I don't think it's irreversible by any stretch tho. Seems like the ingredients are at most innocuous, and I honestly doubt the claims of hair reduction.... tho like I said, until I see further and more rigorously performed studies, I am witholding final judgment. I judged it entirely on its merits as a shave cream, and in that regard it performed quite well.
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