View Poll Results: What Do You Use to Refresh Your Razors?

Voters
70. You may not vote on this poll
  • Cloth strop pasted with chromium oxide

    5 7.14%
  • Balsa pasted with chromium oxide

    7 10.00%
  • Cloth strop pasted with diamond paste

    0 0%
  • Balsa pasted with diamond paste

    3 4.29%
  • Chinese 12K stone

    10 14.29%
  • Shapton 16K stone

    1 1.43%
  • Shapton 30K stone

    1 1.43%
  • Coticule

    22 31.43%
  • Escher stone

    3 4.29%
  • Other Natural Stone (for example, Japanese—please say which!)

    6 8.57%
  • Other (please say what!)

    12 17.14%
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 36

Thread: If You Don't Use A Barbers Hone, What Do You Use To Refresh Your Razors?

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    I'm right here. Where are you?
    Posts
    607

    Default If You Don't Use A Barbers Hone, What Do You Use To Refresh Your Razors?

    I'm curious because I have a razor that I think needs refreshing (which is odd, because its one I bought new, but that's another story) and am leery of getting a barbers hone from eBay. Curious to see if there's a consensus among those who don't use barbers hones.

    Edited to add: for any given choice, please give a brief account of your routine. Nothing fancy (unless the routine is fancy! ) just short and sweet. For example:

    Quote Originally Posted by Somebody
    Balsa w/CrOx, 10 laps
    Thanks!
    Last edited by Scissors; 02-03-2010 at 03:24 PM.
    Unrepentant Member, P.O.G

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Avondale, PA
    Posts
    7,695
    Images
    3

    Default

    Coticule, Nakayama, Thuringian.

    Depending on my mood.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    I'm right here. Where are you?
    Posts
    607
    Thread Starter

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by SliceOfLife View Post
    Coticule, Nakayama, Thuringian.

    Depending on my mood.
    Nakayama = Japanese antique natural stone?

    Thuringian = classic Escher?

    Thanks.
    Unrepentant Member, P.O.G

  4. #4

    Default

    you can use any final finishing stone. As long as it does job that is all matter.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    13,724
    Images
    11

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by chess1 View Post
    you can use any final finishing stone. As long as it does job that is all matter.
    i agree to a certain point, but different finishers put a different feel on the blade. the difference, say, between a coti and one of those crazy superfine japanese stones is very noticable

    ive got a chinese 12k that suits me fine (though i also use pastes, from time to time)

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    I'm right here. Where are you?
    Posts
    607
    Thread Starter

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by chess1 View Post
    you can use any final finishing stone. As long as it does job that is all matter.
    I figured that all of these would work. I want to see in general if there's a clear preference. And the more people who use a particular tool, the greater breadth and depth of knowledge there is out there.

    I have the Shapton 16K. But if nobody uses it, I'm on my own about how many laps, it is crucial to lap the stone, any special tips or tricks. I could end up messing up the blade to the point I'd have to send it to a honemeister.

    OTOH, suppose a lot of people use coticules. Then there's experience out there I can draw upon. Same thing if a lot of people use Chinese stones, or pasted strops. I can ask a question and get an answer (or answers).
    Unrepentant Member, P.O.G

  7. #7

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Scissors View Post
    I figured that all of these would work. I want to see in general if there's a clear preference. And the more people who use a particular tool, the greater breadth and depth of knowledge there is out there.

    I have the Shapton 16K. But if nobody uses it, I'm on my own about how many laps, it is crucial to lap the stone, any special tips or tricks. I could end up messing up the blade to the point I'd have to send it to a honemeister.

    OTOH, suppose a lot of people use coticules. Then there's experience out there I can draw upon. Same thing if a lot of people use Chinese stones, or pasted strops. I can ask a question and get an answer (or answers).
    The question you are asking don't have straight forward answer to it.
    There is a lot reason' to use particular stone.
    Example.
    Price?
    Availability of the stone.
    what kinda job stone will do?
    How hard or easy to use?
    so on .
    That is why you poll question will have bias.
    Now if you want to know how to use your 16k shapton is different story.
    shapton 16k very fast cutter(compare similar grit another stones).
    Most people makes mistake by doing too many strokes on 16k.
    if you have moved to 16k on time then you will never need more then 4-10 strokes.
    Hardest to know when to move and from which stone you will move to shapton 16k
    They all will have different signs.
    i should add this" Try to get Maximum sharpness from every single grit stone. example,1k,4k,8, etc.
    If your early stone is norton 8k you will move only when your razor will cut arm hair and hair will fall off . mostly on the blade.
    try get this from norton then move to shapton 16k and make 6 strokes you done.strop shave.
    what happens if you do instead of 6 ,18 strokes?
    shapton will broke down the edge and you will have small chips on your blade.
    hope this helps. gl

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Avondale, PA
    Posts
    7,695
    Images
    3

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Scissors View Post
    Nakayama = Japanese antique natural stone?

    Thuringian = classic Escher?

    Thanks.

    I doubt it's an antique. The way it works as I understand it is that some guy owns the rights to the name Nakayama despite the actual mine not being used, so he slaps the name on rocks from nearby mines at a whim. I have no idea how accurate that info it, but it's what I read.

    I own both a classic Escher (black) and a mystery grey/green of unknown origin.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    houston, texas
    Posts
    2,493
    Images
    4

    Default

    I use a variety of refreshers, depending on my mood/what's handy/what else I'm doing. I use either a linen paddle with a bit of harbor freight white rouge on it, or the Shapton 30k, or the Maruka Nakayama Asagi. The paddle is handy if I'm watching a show on my computer, since I don't risk getting water on the electronics. The rumour about pastes weakening the edge are bunk IMO, the main thing is to keep the pastes extremely thin, and make d*mned sure you don't let the strop sag (not a problem with a paddle) and use the same ultralight pressure you would if you were using a hone.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    The Utility Muffin Research Laboratory
    Posts
    18,155
    Images
    1

    Default

    Depends on the razor, what it needs and my mood. Sometimes an Escher, others one of the three J-Nats finishers (Maruichi Maruka Nakayama, Nakayama Kiita and a suspected Nakayama Iromono) I've accumulated, sometimes diamond paste on a paddle strop and still others diamond spray on hard wool. And of course, sometimes a combination of any of the above.
    Last edited by professorchaos; 02-03-2010 at 06:11 PM.
    Henry

    My Kit

    henry (@) badgerandblade.com

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Pandora
    Posts
    8,296
    Images
    104

    Default

    I like to use a Spyderco UF and have been using the entire line for a while and love the edge off of it. If the blade is mildly dull I may pass it for a quickie on crox but majority of the edge is not getting back to normal I'll use the UF.

    Im not a fan of pastes, I don't like diamond paste edge, it just feels harsh. I think there is a term "too sharp" IMO. So anything off a Shapton over a 16k just kills my face.

    But I have been tempted on using the Dove red paste just for giggles

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Blacksburg, VA
    Posts
    1,619
    Images
    29

    Default

    CrO,
    Diamond spray
    Nakayam Asagi
    Honing and restoration services, PM for information.

  13. Default

    Needs to be a multiple choice poll

    Shapton 16K, 5-10 laps
    Shapton 30K, 4-5 laps
    Asagi/Kiita blend, depends on the edge
    La Petit Blanche Coticule, 30-60 laps on water only

  14. Default

    most people don't start learning how to hone a razor when already in possession of a stone collection. I'm partway through rehoning a somewhat abused vintage ebay special, hoping for a low cost learning curve.

    I have more stones than I can name, and less experience with honing razors than I'm happy with.. so as far as refreshing a razor, it'd be a natural stone. Claiming I can tell an unmarked waterstones provenance by feel is something I'm reluctant to do. Appearance alone isn't enough, and being sure isn't the same thing as being right.

    Given that i'm well supplied with a variety of choices, I'd ideally try the razor on several stones, and use the one that worked best. I don't have any reason to think that ALL razors would respond best to ONE kind of rock. I'd almost bet otherwise.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    So. FL
    Posts
    1,300

    Default

    I've been using a coticule with water followed by a chinese 12k.
    Lou

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Beantown
    Posts
    11,445
    Images
    40

    Default

    I don't touch up my razors.

    I buy a case of 100 Gold Dollars, hone them up, and once they get dull, I throw them in the bin! Still cheaper than Mach 5 blades!




    I use Dovo white with daily stropping, and that acts as a constant tune-up.

    I usually use Chromox on a strop if it needs a bit more than that.
    One, two! One, two! and through and through...The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
    My Vorpal Razors

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Hendersonville, TN
    Posts
    1,911

    Default

    CrO pasted paddle or a Thuringian. Depends on my assesment of what is needed. I generally start with CrO, and will go to the Thuringian with lather or water if necessary.
    John






    Dedicated to the pursuit of Life, Liberty, and Trout.

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Avondale, PA
    Posts
    7,695
    Images
    3

    Default

    Wow rich, the Shaptons are really that fast? I'm gonna have to try one sooner or later. Reaaaaaaally can't justify buying one, but maybe I'll make it to a meet up one of these days and get to check them out.

  19. #19

    Default

    Naniwa 12K, strop on SRD premium I and good enough for me!

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Emmen, The Netherlands
    Posts
    813

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    I don't touch up my razors.

    I buy a case of 100 Gold Dollars, hone them up, and once they get dull, I throw them in the bin! Still cheaper than Mach 5 blades!
    I am sure you are dying to know where my bin is.

Similar Threads

  1. Hone vs Barbers Hone vs Coticule and the unknown
    By vigorous.elbows in forum Hones/Honing
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 04-25-2011, 12:07 PM
  2. American hone Co. Barbers hone
    By Wid in forum Shaving Mall - Buy/Sell/Trade
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 10-19-2010, 03:40 AM
  3. Barbers hone
    By gregs656 in forum Shaving Mall - Buy/Sell/Trade
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 09-13-2009, 03:27 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
By accessing Badger & Blade, you agree to abide by the Terms of Usage. You can find our Privacy Policy here.
Once submitted, any posts, images, or content become the property of Badger & Blade.
Powered by vBulletin® - Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.