i get ingrowns, going atg without the proper planets in align, and various other circumstances have to be in place. i can do it. but i still don't do it all the time, or wish to either. its just not feasible for an every day shave. not yet anyway, im still torqueing around with some things. ultimately though, i am one of those guys for whom atg, (only in two spots) can be quite an issue. just the two spots. i can be vicious as i wish anywhere else on my face/neck.