Archers Unite (In Your Advice/Abuse/Whatever)

[MoreSaltThanPepper]

Looking to upgrade my longbow (55 lb) to something with a little more oomph.

Any archers here have a preference for a particular longbow (or maybe even a Mongol bow) in about a 100 lb range?

- John

[MoreSaltThanPepper]

Er, any archers at all here?

[40_Caliber]

1988 state champ. 3rd Flight. Mens bowhunter freestyle class. Texas Field Archery Association.

No traditional archery for me. Compound w 60% let off, site pins, release, overdraw, 250 fps.

Given the superior equipment available why do you shoot a more traditional bow?

.40

[DS/B MCS]

Been a long time, but I used to hunt with a Mathews Z-Max

Probably going to get back in the woods this year, so I'm just starting to research again. So many choices :eek:

[galopede]

Given the superior equipment available why do you shoot a more traditional bow?

That's like asking him why he doesn't use a Fusion to shave!:biggrin:

Gareth

[MoreSaltThanPepper]

Been a long time, but I used to hunt with a Mathews Z-Max

Probably going to get back in the woods this year, so I'm just starting to research again. So many choices :eek:

That's what I'm kind of facing, indeed <sigh>



That's like asking him why he doesn't use a Fusion to shave!:biggrin:

Gareth

:thumbup:

[rktscientist7]

It's good to find some trad archers on B&B! For starters, what type of longbow are you using? Moving from a 55lb to a 100lb longbow is going to make you significantly overbowed. Have you looked into the more niche longbow manufacturers? Names like Dwyer, Dryad, Massie, Ron LaClair, and a dozen others hand build remarkable longbows. I would recommend you check out an R/D (reflex/deflex) design to eliminate some of the stereotypical longbow handshock as well as pick up a few fps.

Trad Gang (http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi) is an incredible resource for the traditional archer, whether you hunt, compete, build bows, or are looking for advice! Good luck!

[MoreSaltThanPepper]

It's good to find some trad archers on B&B! For starters, what type of longbow are you using? Moving from a 55lb to a 100lb longbow is going to make you significantly overbowed. Have you looked into the more niche longbow manufacturers? Names like Dwyer, Dryad, Massie, Ron LaClair, and a dozen others hand build remarkable longbows. I would recommend you check out an R/D (reflex/deflex) design to eliminate some of the stereotypical longbow handshock as well as pick up a few fps.

Trad Gang (http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi) is an incredible resource for the traditional archer, whether you hunt, compete, build bows, or are looking for advice! Good luck!

Great questions and information. Thanks :smile:

I'm currently using a Fred Bear longbow and I like it well enough but I got it while recovering from a shoulder problem. Now (nice to be so hard to please, eh) it is too easy to be all that interesting.

Thank you for the great tips.

- John

:biggrin:

[rktscientist7]

Another option, especially if you're looking to be able to drastically change your draw weight would be a 3pc. recurve. You can swap out the limbs as you outgrow them while not having to make radical adjustments to a new bow.

Not to completely hijack the thread, but I would suggest that anyone who loves archery read a little bit about Paul Schafer, possibly the most remarkable man to ever draw a bow. If the stories here (http://www.schafersilvertipbows.com/tribute.html) or the Trad Gang's Articles Forum (http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum;f=4) don't make the hair on the back of your neck stand up or spine tingle, Brother, you haven't got a pulse.

[JEEP]

You might want to talk to this guy; http://www.bickerstaffebows.co.uk/

Al lot of the archers from my medieval re-enactment group has bought bows from him - the quality is top-notch and the prices are very fair.


Regards.

Jakob

[40_Caliber]

That's like asking him why he doesn't use a Fusion to shave!:biggrin:

Gareth

Knew that one was coming:biggrin1:. Shaving is one thing, sending an arrow downrange is quite another. Traditional bows cannot hope to match the speed and accuracy of modern equipment. I guess it depends on an individuals needs and desires.:rolleyes:


In the days of yore when armies had a troops of archers sending 100's of shafts raining down on the opposition a long bow was a very suitable tool.

In today's highly competitive world of 3D shoots and indoor 20 yard speed and accuracy are vital and traditional equipment is simply outpaced and won't be seen.

Here is an example. I setup a bow for 20 yard indoor competitive shooting.
45# pull Browning compound
2" Overdraw
TH supreme arrow rest
4' carbon fiber stablizer with mercury shock can
Taxonics micrometer adjustable sight system with 4x power bullseye
Match grade release
XXXX75 match grade arrows
With this setup a skilled archer can hit a circle the size of a quarter almost every time. :eek:

With a modern hunting setup an arrow can be sent downrange with almost the same accuracy but using a much heavier hunting arrow traveling at speeds approaching 250-300 feet per second. The speed is essential to reduce the ballistic curve of the arrow. This flatter flight path allows more accurate arrow placement at unknown yardage. :thumbup:

So the question again, what is the reason for choosing more traditional archery equipment? What is the planned use?

.40

[blantyre]

I don't have any experience as an archer but the bowmaker to the Emperor of Japan is giving a demo of bowmaking at a local Japanese festival today - should be interesting.

[Bristlingbeardofodin]

Knew that one was coming:biggrin1:. Shaving is one thing, sending an arrow downrange is quite another. Traditional bows cannot hope to match the speed and accuracy of modern equipment. I guess it depends on an individuals needs and desires.:rolleyes:


In the days of yore when armies had a troops of archers sending 100's of shafts raining down on the opposition a long bow was a very suitable tool.

In today's highly competitive world of 3D shoots and indoor 20 yard speed and accuracy are vital and traditional equipment is simply outpaced and won't be seen.

Here is an example. I setup a bow for 20 yard indoor competitive shooting.
45# pull Browning compound
2" Overdraw
TH supreme arrow rest
4' carbon fiber stablizer with mercury shock can
Taxonics micrometer adjustable sight system with 4x power bullseye
Match grade release
XXXX75 match grade arrows
With this setup a skilled archer can hit a circle the size of a quarter almost every time. :eek:

With a modern hunting setup an arrow can be sent downrange with almost the same accuracy but using a much heavier hunting arrow traveling at speeds approaching 250-300 feet per second. The speed is essential to reduce the ballistic curve of the arrow. This flatter flight path allows more accurate arrow placement at unknown yardage. :thumbup:

So the question again, what is the reason for choosing more traditional archery equipment? What is the planned use?

.40

+1

The use is the key question to answer. I think the modern equipment, in addition to accuracy, offers the hunter the chance for a cleaner and more humane kill.

[blackfoot]

Knew that one was coming:biggrin1:. Shaving is one thing, sending an arrow downrange is quite another. Traditional bows cannot hope to match the speed and accuracy of modern equipment. I guess it depends on an individuals needs and desires.:rolleyes:


In the days of yore when armies had a troops of archers sending 100's of shafts raining down on the opposition a long bow was a very suitable tool.

In today's highly competitive world of 3D shoots and indoor 20 yard speed and accuracy are vital and traditional equipment is simply outpaced and won't be seen.

Here is an example. I setup a bow for 20 yard indoor competitive shooting.
45# pull Browning compound
2" Overdraw
TH supreme arrow rest
4' carbon fiber stablizer with mercury shock can
Taxonics micrometer adjustable sight system with 4x power bullseye
Match grade release
XXXX75 match grade arrows
With this setup a skilled archer can hit a circle the size of a quarter almost every time. :eek:

With a modern hunting setup an arrow can be sent downrange with almost the same accuracy but using a much heavier hunting arrow traveling at speeds approaching 250-300 feet per second. The speed is essential to reduce the ballistic curve of the arrow. This flatter flight path allows more accurate arrow placement at unknown yardage. :thumbup:

So the question again, what is the reason for choosing more traditional archery equipment? What is the planned use?

.40

It is the same reason we choose to shoot a muzzle loader. The challenge. Anyone one can take a setup like you described and become fairly proficient after a little practice. Going with a more traditional setup takes tons of practice. The reason the long bows were replaced was the lack of skill necessary to operate the more advanced systems being invented. That being said, I love to shoot both.

[40_Caliber]

It is the same reason we choose to shoot a muzzle loader. The challenge. Anyone one can take a setup like you described and become fairly proficient after a little practice. Going with a more traditional setup takes tons of practice. The reason the long bows were replaced was the lack of skill necessary to operate the more advanced systems being invented. That being said, I love to shoot both.

+1 Well said. It's a matter of degrees. Once a person has meet the challenge of learning the basics on basic equipment. It's only natural to want to move on to better equipment. As we gain levels of skill and proficiency after a certain point one way to continue improvement is to use professional equipment.

.40

[moonshine44]

I highly recommend Ron King's bows. He does business as Fox Archery, and builds some beautiful, fast shooting bows.

That having been said, my personal favorites are from Neil Jacobson at Bear's Paw Bows. I had one of his take down longbows for several years, and currently have one of his recurves that I had custom made. Sweet and fast. At 58 pounds draw, it'll kick a 600 grain cedar arrow at 185 fps, and it's deadly quiet, with no recoil at all...

Neil's website is here: Bear's Paw Bows (http://www.bpbows.com/modules/content/index.php?id=1)

[rktscientist7]

Knew that one was coming:biggrin1:. Shaving is one thing, sending an arrow downrange is quite another. Traditional bows cannot hope to match the speed and accuracy of modern equipment. I guess it depends on an individuals needs and desires.:rolleyes:


In the days of yore when armies had a troops of archers sending 100's of shafts raining down on the opposition a long bow was a very suitable tool.

In today's highly competitive world of 3D shoots and indoor 20 yard speed and accuracy are vital and traditional equipment is simply outpaced and won't be seen.

Here is an example. I setup a bow for 20 yard indoor competitive shooting.
45# pull Browning compound
2" Overdraw
TH supreme arrow rest
4' carbon fiber stablizer with mercury shock can
Taxonics micrometer adjustable sight system with 4x power bullseye
Match grade release
XXXX75 match grade arrows
With this setup a skilled archer can hit a circle the size of a quarter almost every time. :eek:

With a modern hunting setup an arrow can be sent downrange with almost the same accuracy but using a much heavier hunting arrow traveling at speeds approaching 250-300 feet per second. The speed is essential to reduce the ballistic curve of the arrow. This flatter flight path allows more accurate arrow placement at unknown yardage. :thumbup:

So the question again, what is the reason for choosing more traditional archery equipment? What is the planned use?

.40

No offense, but I completely disagree with you. Look up some videos of people like Howard Hill, Byron Ferguson, and Ron LaClair. These men can shoot nickels and dimes out of the air or cut playing cards in half with an arrow.

I used to hate going to shoots with compound shooters. There's nothing worse than waiting as a group of 4-5 guys take their sweet time looking at the target with their binoculars, double-checking the marked range on their range finders, adjusting their sights and waiting for the slight crosswind to die down. When they eventually release, the whole process starts over again because, wouldn't you know it, they still didn't break the inner ring.

At some point archery stopped being about ability and started being about how well you could line up a few dots and push a button. For similar reasons I detest 20 yard target competitions.

The bottom line? Real archers don't need training wheels.

[DefaultAnon]

Knew that one was coming:biggrin1:. Shaving is one thing, sending an arrow downrange is quite another. Traditional bows cannot hope to match the speed and accuracy of modern equipment. I guess it depends on an individuals needs and desires.:rolleyes:


In the days of yore when armies had a troops of archers sending 100's of shafts raining down on the opposition a long bow was a very suitable tool.
sending 100's of shafts raining down on the opposition a long bow was a very suitable tool.

In today's highly competitive world of 3D shoots and indoor 20 yard speed and accuracy are vital and traditional equipment is simply outpaced and won't be seen.

Here is an example. I setup a bow for 20 yard indoor competitive shooting.
45# pull Browning compound
2" Overdraw
TH supreme arrow rest
4' carbon fiber stablizer with mercury shock can
Taxonics micrometer adjustable sight system with 4x power bullseye
Match grade release
XXXX75 match grade arrows
With this setup a skilled archer can hit a circle the size of a quarter almost every time. :eek:

With a modern hunting setup an arrow can be sent downrange with almost the same accuracy but using a much heavier hunting arrow traveling at speeds approaching 250-300 feet per second. The speed is essential to reduce the ballistic curve of the arrow. This flatter flight path allows more accurate arrow placement at unknown yardage. :thumbup:

So the question again, what is the reason for choosing more traditional archery equipment? What is the planned use?

.40

hahaha
thats kinda like asking why use a bow when you could use a rifle? you should swap in favor of new technology:blink:
Also, I find it much more satisfying to shoot by feel. I feel like I'm cheating somehow when I use a sight.

[40_Caliber]

No offense, but I completely disagree with you. Look up some videos of people like Howard Hill, Byron Ferguson, and Ron LaClair. These men can shoot nickels and dimes out of the air or cut playing cards in half with an arrow.

I used to hate going to shoots with compound shooters. There's nothing worse than waiting as a group of 4-5 guys take their sweet time looking at the target with their binoculars, double-checking the marked range on their range finders, adjusting their sights and waiting for the slight crosswind to die down. When they eventually release, the whole process starts over again because, wouldn't you know it, they still didn't break the inner ring.

At some point archery stopped being about ability and started being about how well you could line up a few dots and push a button. For similar reasons I detest 20 yard target competitions.

The bottom line? Real archers don't need training wheels.


hahaha
thats kinda like asking why use a bow when you could use a rifle? you should swap in favor of new technology:blink:
Also, I find it much more satisfying to shoot by feel. I feel like I'm cheating somehow when I use a sight.

Perhaps one day we will be able to stand on the firing line together and learn from each other's experience.

.40

[DefaultAnon]

I used to hate going to shoots with compound shooters. There's nothing worse than waiting as a group of 4-5 guys take their sweet time looking at the target with their binoculars, double-checking the marked range on their range finders, adjusting their sights and waiting for the slight crosswind to die down. When they eventually release, the whole process starts over again because, wouldn't you know it, they still didn't break the inner ring.


It just sounds like the people you shoot with are muppets:biggrin:


Im not sure who mentioned the bear paw bows, but I followed the link and I must say, those are some of the most beautiful bows I have ever seen. Absolutely beautiful.

[DefaultAnon]

Perhaps one day we will be able to stand on the firing line together and learn from each other's experience.

.40

Well said, sir.

[rktscientist7]

Perhaps one day we will be able to stand on the firing line together and learn from each other's experience.

.40

Ultimately, we have far more in common than not. Forgive me, for I often get caught up in the petty differences between compound and trad shooters. I look forward to sending an arrow downrange with anyone who recognizes the beauty of its flight.

[blackfoot]

Now you guys have me wanting to get my bows back out.

[MoreSaltThanPepper]

Now you guys have me wanting to get my bows back out.

So, Blake, does that mean you had, ahem, bowed out of archery before? :biggrin:



So the question again, what is the reason for choosing more traditional archery equipment? What is the planned use?

.40

Hi .40 (I use 9mm myself :biggrin:)

That's a very pertinent question. The short answer is, it's a hobby for my own satisfaction.

The long answer :
The planned (in fact, the only) use is putting shafts into straw and, as mentioned by others, I like the challenge of using my own technique and eyes alone to land rounds. Currently, I can "speed shoot" 10 arrows a minute and put them into about a 10" circle at 25m. I have no idea if that is good or bad and I don't care much but I would like to have something a bit more challenging to pull and try for that accuracy at 50 or 100m. I have no plans to hunt. In 25 years of hunting, I have never made an animal suffer and I know that would happen if I hunted with an arrow.

If your eyes haven't glazed over, there's the answer(s) :biggrin:

- John

[matt0852]

Archers eh? I didn't think I would find something like this on this site. This is probably a little off topic, but has anyone ever made their own bow? I've been wanting to make one for about 2 years now but don't know how to get started.

[bluepunk18]

I haven't done anything with archery since highschool. I miss it. I used to set up a small target in my backyard and have at it. I never hunted with a bow, but I had uncles who did frequently. I only ever used a fiberglass traditional-styled bow... Its great to find such a variety of interests here on the B&B! I can't imagine owning a bow in Toronto would give me many options to practice, but who knows?

As for making your own, that's a whole realm of complication if you're not familiar. I'd do a search for bowyer and see what comes up. I would think proficiency with wood-working tools would be a big plus. Let us know how it goes and post pics Matt0852! *maybe you could make a straight razor to match*

[blackfoot]

So, Blake, does that mean you had, ahem, bowed out of archery before? :biggrin:

- John

I have never spent a lot of time at it and haven't even had either of them out since last fall. :frown:


Archers eh? I didn't think I would find something like this on this site. This is probably a little off topic, but has anyone ever made their own bow? I've been wanting to make one for about 2 years now but don't know how to get started.

I am planning on making my own. Unfortunately, a bow stave is a bit costly.

[MoreSaltThanPepper]

So, Blake, does that mean you had, ahem, bowed out of archery before? :biggrin:


I have never spent a lot of time at it and haven't even had either of them out since last fall. :frown:


Well . . . I thought it was funny . . .

Now you know why I don't do the improv circuit :rolleyes:

[blackfoot]

Well . . . I thought it was funny . . .

Now you know why I don't do the improv circuit :rolleyes:

My humblest apologies. I meant to add a LOL smileyto that, but forgot.

:lol::lol::lol:

[40_Caliber]

So, Blake, does that mean you had, ahem, bowed out of archery before? :biggrin:



Hi .40 (I use 9mm myself :biggrin:)

That's a very pertinent question. The short answer is, it's a hobby for my own satisfaction.

The long answer :
The planned (in fact, the only) use is putting shafts into straw and, as mentioned by others, I like the challenge of using my own technique and eyes alone to land rounds. Currently, I can "speed shoot" 10 arrows a minute and put them into about a 10" circle at 25m. I have no idea if that is good or bad and I don't care much but I would like to have something a bit more challenging to pull and try for that accuracy at 50 or 100m. I have no plans to hunt. In 25 years of hunting, I have never made an animal suffer and I know that would happen if I hunted with an arrow.

If your eyes haven't glazed over, there's the answer(s) :biggrin:

- John

I carried a .9mm as a policeman in another life:tongue_sm.

That's great speed shooting time. Putting 10 arrows in a "pie plate" at 25m is pretty good shooting with traditional equipment even without the added 1 shot per second speed.

I agree that you need a more powerful bow to shoot longer distances. The increased arrow speed will help correct small variances in estimating the range. Another way to maximize that benefit would be to use arrows with a higher spine strength (stiffer shaft). This type of arrow flexes less and more of the string's energy is used to send the arrow on it's way. At a guess different kinds of woods used to produce the shaft would change this key parameter for traditional equipment.

In my TFA tournament days, the longest shot in a "round" was 80 yards. That's a tough shot with any kind of equipment. That target would make or break your score for that days shoot.

I have hunted many times and with a bow, but haven't in many years. I am so busy with work and family that I don't get to shoot very often anymore. This thread really makes me want to get back into a flight.

.40

[matt0852]

I haven't done anything with archery since highschool. I miss it. I used to set up a small target in my backyard and have at it. I never hunted with a bow, but I had uncles who did frequently. I only ever used a fiberglass traditional-styled bow... Its great to find such a variety of interests here on the B&B! I can't imagine owning a bow in Toronto would give me many options to practice, but who knows?

As for making your own, that's a whole realm of complication if you're not familiar. I'd do a search for bowyer and see what comes up. I would think proficiency with wood-working tools would be a big plus. Let us know how it goes and post pics Matt0852! *maybe you could make a straight razor to match*

I sure will. That is if I can manage it. haha

[Joshua Da Silva]

I've only done archery in summer camp but I really liked it.

I don't mean to hijack the thread but while I've got all the experts right here-how would I go about getting involved in this sport? Are there clubs/ranges that I can go to in order to try it out and become involved in? And how much am I looking at if I want a cheap starter set up. I'm a university student so money is obviously tight. For the sake of keeping the thread on topic feel free to PM me. Oh, and I'd prefer a traditional setup. Is this more or less expensive?

Oh, someone mentioned muzzle loaders, I've fired a flintlock rifle before, I'm not sure exactly what kind but it was used during the war of 1812.

[40_Caliber]

I've only done archery in summer camp but I really liked it.

I don't mean to hijack the thread but while I've got all the experts right here-how would I go about getting involved in this sport? Are there clubs/ranges that I can go to in order to try it out and become involved in? And how much am I looking at if I want a cheap starter set up. I'm a university student so money is obviously tight. For the sake of keeping the thread on topic feel free to PM me. Oh, and I'd prefer a traditional setup. Is this more or less expensive?

Oh, someone mentioned muzzle loaders, I've fired a flintlock rifle before, I'm not sure exactly what kind but it was used during the war of 1812.

Archery is a pretty quiet sport in that you rarely hear much about it. I would start by checking with your local archery retailer. They may have flyers about upcoming shoots or know one of the "regulars" that you could contact.

Once you locate the shoot just show up to watch and talk with some of the participants. Watching a "shoot" will help you understand differences in types of equipment. Find yourself a mentor and let them advise you on your first setup. There are many visual and technical (arts) aspects of the sport that don't translate well into print such as tuning and fletching.

.40

[MoreSaltThanPepper]

I've only done archery in summer camp but I really liked it.

I don't mean to hijack the thread but while I've got all the experts right here-how would I go about getting involved in this sport? Are there clubs/ranges that I can go to in order to try it out and become involved in? And how much am I looking at if I want a cheap starter set up. I'm a university student so money is obviously tight. For the sake of keeping the thread on topic feel free to PM me. Oh, and I'd prefer a traditional setup. Is this more or less expensive?

Oh, someone mentioned muzzle loaders, I've fired a flintlock rifle before, I'm not sure exactly what kind but it was used during the war of 1812.

Hey Josh:

I don't know about where you are but here in Calgary, there are two specific archery retailers (not counting three other stores who stock some archery stuff) that have indoor ranges at their locations. There is another outdoor range and all three advertise upcoming events. I laid out about $450.00 total for bow, stringer, glove, quiver and half a dozen fletched, nocked and pointed arrows. I recently spent another c-note on another half dozen fletched and pointed carbon fibre arrows with lighted nocks (because I don't want to stand peering at where I've landed my shots while I wait for the round to finish). That, not counting range rental, is all the money you would lay out for a working set. If you want to try but not buy (here, anyway), the range I do the most shooting at will rent you whatever kind of equipment you want for a night for about 15 bucks, including range time.

It looks like a 100# longbow would set me back more than I have to spend right at the moment but I have a reasonable budget in mind now and will lay aside my kopecks until the time comes.

While we have you here, did you ever get the charming Miss Erin her shoes . . .? :biggrin:

- John

[Joshua Da Silva]

Archery is a pretty quiet sport in that you rarely hear much about it. I would start by checking with your local archery retailer. They may have flyers about upcoming shoots or know one of the "regulars" that you could contact.

Once you locate the shoot just show up to watch and talk with some of the participants. Watching a "shoot" will help you understand differences in types of equipment. Find yourself a mentor and let them advise you on your first setup. There are many visual and technical (arts) aspects of the sport that don't translate well into print such as tuning and fletching.

.40

I have local archery retailers? :tongue_sm

I guess I'll have to hunt them out but I'm sure there are some somewhere around here in the GTA. Once I find them, I can start from there.

Thanks for the advice .40!:smile:


Hey Josh:

I don't know about where you are but here in Calgary, there are two specific archery retailers (not counting three other stores who stock some archery stuff) that have indoor ranges at their locations. There is another outdoor range and all three advertise upcoming events. I laid out about $450.00 total for bow, stringer, glove, quiver and half a dozen fletched, nocked and pointed arrows. I recently spent another c-note on another half dozen fletched and pointed carbon fibre arrows with lighted nocks (because I don't want to stand peering at where I've landed my shots while I wait for the round to finish). That, not counting range rental, is all the money you would lay out for a working set. If you want to try but not buy (here, anyway), the range I do the most shooting at will rent you whatever kind of equipment you want for a night for about 15 bucks, including range time.

It looks like a 100# longbow would set me back more than I have to spend right at the moment but I have a reasonable budget in mind now and will lay aside my kopecks until the time comes.

While we have you here, did you ever get the charming Miss Erin her shoes . . .? :biggrin:

- John

Ah, rentals are great :biggrin: I like the idea of that, because right now I don't have alot of free time since I work part time, go to school full time, and tutor on the side. Oh buying Miss. Erin her shoes is a full time job in itself:lol::tongue_sm No I kid. I don't really buy her shoes because she gets enough on her own :tongue_sm

But seriously, the rentals are nice because it be something I pop in for once in a while, which allows me to participate without much cost/commitment. Then if it is something I want to pursue when I free up some time and money then I can buy my own gear and such.

Thanks for the advice John! :smile:

[Johnny_Z]

I've got a lil recurve and even had some nice wooden arrows made for it. Haven't shot in a couple years though. I'd like to start again, but I want someone to show me how to do it properly so I don't have to unlearn mistakes later.

[tpoof]

Archery and bowhunting is my favorite pastime... I have been shooting bow since I was 4 years old and am now 50.. whoa.... where did the years go ...
Mostly shoot traditional equipment now but also have compound bows and all the related goodies.
Started making my own self longbows quite a few years ago and that is mostly what I carry in the woods now.
My favorite is an Elm sinewbacked recurve covered with Gartersnake skins that I built the other winter..
best buck..a 156", 10 point that gave me a 10 yard shot right at sunset one year, I was sitting on the ground beside some shrubs and he just walked in love it when that happens.... to rare..
Here's a couple pics of my gear...
sorry for the mess..

[MoreSaltThanPepper]

I've got a lil recurve and even had some nice wooden arrows made for it. Haven't shot in a couple years though. I'd like to start again, but I want someone to show me how to do it properly so I don't have to unlearn mistakes later.

Sounds like we have an archery club all together right here on B&B :biggrin:


Archery and bowhunting is my favorite pastime... I have been shooting bow since I was 4 years old and am now 50.. whoa.... where did the years go ...
Mostly shoot traditional equipment now but also have compound bows and all the related goodies.
Started making my own self longbows quite a few years ago and that is mostly what I carry in the woods now.
My favorite is an Elm sinewbacked recurve covered with Gartersnake skins that I built the other winter..
best buck..a 156", 10 point that gave me a 10 yard shot right at sunset one year, I was sitting on the ground beside some shrubs and he just walked in love it when that happens.... to rare..
Here's a couple pics of my gear...
sorry for the mess..

That's a gorgeous set. The "featured" bow is your own work? That's great work!

[blackfoot]

You have an awesome looking collection! :w00t:

[tpoof]

Thanks guys! appreciated!

[Big.Dave]

I do not shoot long bow but I do shoot Olympic recurve and shoot at bowman level in the UK. My recurve limbs are made by a Scottish company called Border archery they also make very nice wooden bows out of some lovely woods to any poundage you want I heard they made a 160lbs bow for a German customer. so if you want to beat the crap out of your targets they'll make it for you heres a link http://www.borderbows.com/working/but you have to speak to them to get what you want and there customer sevice is second to none.

Also you can contact Sid a Borderbows at this archery forum http://www.archery-interchange.net/ in the commercial forums Border Archery he will be happy to answer any questions you may have.