Lanolin Based Soaps & Creams

[biminyrd]

There is already an amazing sticky on Tallow based soaps.
I'm interested to know which soaps have lanolin in them, as I find the lanolin based soap which I own (Musgo Real) performs as well as my tallow based soaps (Tabac and Speick).
This list can also help people who have a lanolin allegy.

*Updated*
So far the list of soaps/creams that contain lanolin are:
Musgo
Mitchel's Wool Fat (MWF)/Kent
Godrej Shaving Creams
Omega red cream
proraso red
Palmolive Refreshing Lemon
St. Charles Shave (SCS) Lanolin Shave Soap

following are from searching the forum and unconfirmed:
Ingram shave cream
lavanda
Institut du Karite (disputed effectiveness of lanolin based ingredient)


please post your additions/corrections.

aaron

[sachin]

Godrej Shaving Creams

[The Nid Hog]

Godrej Shaving Creams

Is that true of the Menthol Mint and the Citrus too?

[sachin]

Is that true of the Menthol Mint and the Citrus too?

I have the Original and the Menthol Mist and both have lanolin on the ingredient list.

[tracr]

Institut du Karite

[Luc]

Omega red cream has lanolin

[MikeLip]

Institut du Karite

+1. Awesome soap.

[sachin]

institut du karite


+1. Awesome soap.

+2

[The Seeker]

Palmolive Refreshing Lemon.

[SmoovD]

SCS Lanolin SS

[Stubblefield]

While MWF does contain lanolin, it is still primarily tallow based. Tallow is #1 on the list of ingredients, lanolin at #11 or so. My favorite soap, for sure.

I'm going to have to try some IK now!

[Cuttingboard]

Institut du Karite

I thought IK used shea butter?:confused:

[MikeLip]

I thought IK used shea butter?:confused:

I am working from memory when I say this, but as I recall lanolin is on the list of ingredients.

[MikeLip]

While MWF does contain lanolin, it is still primarily tallow based. Tallow is #1 on the list of ingredients, lanolin at #11 or so. My favorite soap, for sure.

I'm going to have to try some IK now!

Yes. Yes you do. :biggrin: I like it better than MWF. The smell is better anyway. They are both very good soaps.

[tracr]

IK contains shea butter but lanolin too i believe.

here's the list:
Potassium Palmate, Sodium Palmate, Potassium Stearate, Potassium Palm Kernelate, Sodium Stearate, Sodium Palm Kernelate, Glycerin, Aqua (Water), Isopropyl Lanolate, Palm Kernel Acid, Butrospermum (Shea Butter) Parkii, Parfum (Fragrance), Titanium Dioxide, Pentasodium Pentetate, Tetrasodium Etidronate, Cetaryl, Alcohol, Ceteareth-33, Cetyl Alcohol, Stearic Acid, Polysorbate 60, Petrolatum, Dimethicone Copolyol, Citronellol, Amylcinnamyl Alcohol, Geraniol

unless i am mistaken, isopropyl lanolate is just a lower alkyl ester of lanolin fatty acid.

[Ferannia]

unless i am mistaken, isopropyl lanolate is just a lower alkyl ester of lanolin fatty acid.

That's a synthetic moisturizer only, widely used in cosmetics, it has no hypoallergenic, soothing and bacteriostatic properties.

[tracr]

well, ok, it may be less efficacious, being ingredient #8, and the poster appears to be looking for creams/soaps with lanolin as a primary ingredient, but is it or is it not a lanolin or lanolin-derived substance? this is important for those of us who are allergic~

[Ferannia]

well, ok, it may be less efficacious, being ingredient #8, and the poster appears to be looking for creams/soaps with lanolin as a primary ingredient, but is it or is it not a lanolin or lanolin-derived substance? this is important for those of us who are allergic~

It is lanolin derived, but it does not act and have all properties as the full lanolin itself of course.

By quick Googling for allergies and isopropyl-lanolate I found some info http://www.realself.com/ingredient/isopropyl-lanolate

[maxfarce]

For someone who is trying to glean from your thread some info on good soaps and creams one might not have tried (or might have already) the shorthand of abbreviations and initials doesn't always help. I can play detective with some of it. Also, it is disappointing when a number of posters rave over an ultimate brand, but Google is no help in finding anything like it. In this case the Institut du karite given high marks by a number of you. I finally figured out MWF, which I already have, and I'm working on chasing down some of the others. I have mainly used cremes for the three years since I took up shaving with a straight, but I've decided to explore soaps now, and any info I can glean is helpful.

Thanks,
Don J.

[Dubbya]

While MWF does contain lanolin, it is still primarily tallow based. Tallow is #1 on the list of ingredients, lanolin at #11 or so. My favorite soap, for sure.

I'm going to have to try some IK now!

If I understand it correctly, lanolin is an additive for skin conditioning and not a soap base. Soap bases, IIRC, are tallow and glycerine.

[Ferannia]

If I understand it correctly, lanolin is an additive for skin conditioning and not a soap base. Soap bases, IIRC, are tallow and glycerine.

Some kind of grease, tallow or coconut or palm oil, or any liquid grease are the only basis for any soap. Not glycerin. Glyceryn is not a grease, so no soap can be made out of glycerin. Glycerin soaps are ones with plenty of glycerin as a byproduct of saponification not removed, and added more of it to the soap.
Lanolin is just an additive in soaps including MWF. Lanolin is not a grease so it can not serve as a basis for a soap. Just like shea butter or something else for conditioning skin are additives, so is lanolin; it is not a base for the soap.

[biminyrd]

well,
yes excellent replies
and I don't really care which # ingredient or if it is lanolin based per se
Just that the soaps listed have lanolin as an ingredient for it's skin conditioning properties and awesome shaveability.
aaron

[Dubbya]

Some kind of grease, tallow or coconut or palm oil, or any liquid grease are the only basis for any soap. Not glycerin. Glyceryn is not a grease, so no soap can be made out of glycerin. Glycerin soaps are ones with plenty of glycerin as a byproduct of saponification not removed, and added more of it to the soap.
Lanolin is just an additive in soaps including MWF. Lanolin is not a grease so it can not serve as a basis for a soap. Just like shea butter or something else for conditioning skin are additives, so is lanolin; it is not a base for the soap.

I was partly right at least. Thanks for the claification.

[OldSaw]

The latest scuttlebutt is that Omega no longer has lanolin. :c17:

[Obsessed]

For someone who is trying to glean from your thread some info on good soaps and creams one might not have tried (or might have already) the shorthand of abbreviations and initials doesn't always help. I can play detective with some of it. Also, it is disappointing when a number of posters rave over an ultimate brand, but Google is no help in finding anything like it. In this case the Institut du karite given high marks by a number of you. I finally figured out MWF, which I already have, and I'm working on chasing down some of the others. I have mainly used cremes for the three years since I took up shaving with a straight, but I've decided to explore soaps now, and any info I can glean is helpful.

Thanks,
Don J.

Abbreviations: http://wiki.badgerandblade.com/index.php/Abbreviations

You can find IK at shavingesentials.net among other places.

[professorchaos]

For someone who is trying to glean from your thread some info on good soaps and creams one might not have tried (or might have already) the shorthand of abbreviations and initials doesn't always help. I can play detective with some of it. Also, it is disappointing when a number of posters rave over an ultimate brand, but Google is no help in finding anything like it. In this case the Institut du karite given high marks by a number of you. I finally figured out MWF, which I already have, and I'm working on chasing down some of the others. I have mainly used cremes for the three years since I took up shaving with a straight, but I've decided to explore soaps now, and any info I can glean is helpful.

Thanks,
Don J.

All these abbreviations and many more are regularly used here at B&B and I don't think that will change anytime soon. To assist newcomers to the site, there is a page in the Wiki with many/most of the common abbreviations. You can find that HERE. (http://wiki.badgerandblade.com/index.php/Abbreviations)

Moreover, no one is trying to keep good vendors a secret. Instead they are trying to keep the thread on topic. You can always PM someone who has posted, or look at the Shopping Links sticky in the Shopping forum, HERE (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3779). For instance, had you PM'd me about where to get MWF, I would tell you West Coast Shaving, Shaving Essentials, Lee's Razors, and even Amazon.com. To name but a few.

[biminyrd]

The latest scuttlebutt is that Omega no longer has lanolin. :c17:

is this referencing the omega red cream mentioned above? or the rebranded proraso version? or something else?

[thatguy1807]

Proraso Red has lanolin in it.

[Jelle]

following are from searching the forum and unconfirmed:
Muhle Pinsel Shave Cream

please post your additions/corrections.

aaron

Didn't read the whole thread, but in case it isn't said earlier: Mühle shaving cream does not contain lanolin (wool fat), but linalool, which is found and flowers and spices (thanks wikipedia:tongue_sm).
At least my two weeks old batch of Aloe Vera shaving cream doesn't.

[OldSaw]

is this referencing the omega red cream mentioned above? or the rebranded proraso version? or something else?

There's a difference? I'm having a hard time sorting it out now. I was simply told by some other members that they have a fairly new Omega that does not have lanolin.

[Dubbya]

Proraso Red has lanolin in it.

They stopped making that too.:frown:

[tracr]

anyone allergic to lanolin able to get away with IK?

[Stubblefield]

Just that the soaps listed have lanolin as an ingredient for it's skin conditioning properties and awesome shaveability.
This turned out to be quite an informative thread. I did not know that Musgo or IK had lanolin in it.

[Lusitano]

Veleiro and Top Secret, from Confiança are also lanolized shaving creams

[BroJohn]

The Wilkinson Shave Stick has lanolin as well.

-- John Gehman

[SliceOfLife]

If I understand it correctly, lanolin is an additive for skin conditioning and not a soap base. Soap bases, IIRC, are tallow and glycerine.


There are melt and pour soaps which I know little of.

Then there are traditional soaps. There are a handful of fats that are good for a shaving soap base. At the low end of cost are Tallow, Palm, Lard, and Stearic Acid. There are some others (butters mostly), but they are prohibitively expensive. I am considering making a small batch of cocoa butter soap, but it's approximately seven times the cost of tallow.


Lanolin is a wax (like jojoba) and as I understand it works solely as an additive, rather than as a fatty acid... meaning it isn't chemically changed in the soap making process. Whereas, shea butter, for example, can be used as an additive or as a fat source.

Generally 1-5% of a soap will be lanolin, and other than thinning the product down a little, it should have little to no effect on the soaps properties (other than the reputed nourishing effects derived from the lanolin itself, rather than from the salts produced through saponification).

[cvac]

Cocoa Butter is highly comedogenic. I wouldn't make a soap based on it for shaving.

[SliceOfLife]

Soap making is the process of converting oils into Salts. Cocoa butter will become Sodium Stearate, Sodium Oleate, etc.

Also, Tallow and Coconut oil are also highly comedogenic. There aren't many decent soap making oils that aren't.

[oversaturn]

The shaving cream "O Melhor", from Confiança soaps, also has lanolin in it.

BTW, it is one of the best shaving creams that I have experienced. For me, it is better than Musgo Real.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3066/omelhor.jpg

Lavanda (From Ach. Brito/Claus Porto - makers of Musgo Real) also contains lanolin.
You can see the list of ingredients here: http://vintagescent.com/shaving-creams-c-1/lavanda-shaving-cream-p-2
Unfortunately, this wonderful shaving cream has been discontinued and is no longer being made. :sad:
http://vintagescent.com/images/medium/lavandasc_MED.jpg

[berukblue]

There's a difference? I'm having a hard time sorting it out now. I was simply told by some other members that they have a fairly new Omega that does not have lanolin.

I'm confused about this as well. Is this Omega red in a different tube from the normal pale yellow one(i.e.:proraso in red tube)? I'm also can't confirm anything about weather they removed lanolin form newer stock because the ones we get here still has lanolin on the ingredient list and the shop have just recently restocked. Then again, this could simply be some old stock from some warehouse somewhere, in which case, I shall be hoarding 'em once somebody confirms this rumour :tongue_sm

[honed]

Sorry if I interupt the discussion, but here are a few lanolin-containing creams....

Top Secret
Goldex
Veleiro

[oversaturn]

Sorry if I interupt the discussion, but here are a few lanolin-containing creams....

Top Secret
Goldex
Veleiro

Top Secret and Veleiro had already been pointed out, look:


Veleiro and Top Secret, from Confiança are also lanolized shaving creams
http://vintagescent.com/images/large/TS_LAN_SC_LRG.jpg
http://vintagescent.com/images/medium/cnf_vl_sc_MED.JPG

Goldex is indeed a new addition to the topic. :001_smile
http://vintagescent.com/images/medium/GOLDEX_SC_MED.jpg
I pointed out Lavanda and "O Melhor" a few posts above.


http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3066/omelhor.jpg
http://vintagescent.com/images/medium/lavandasc_MED.jpg
And there's also Musgo Real, of course:
http://www.torquato.co.uk/mall/2/pic/ity5571104162.jpg

What do they share in common, besides the lanolin?
They are all produced in Portugal! :thumbup:
And they are all fine shaving creams!

[honed]

There is just something with Portugal & really good shaving creams.
They are so many & they are all good. And they all contain lanolin AFAIK

[Alec79]

Ingram shave cream contains Lanolin.

[tlanning]

As I posted earlier today, MWF is one of my favs tied by AOS anything but sandalwwod being my favorite of the AOS line.

The only thing I actually dislike about MWF is that I have to be careful of water temp. To hot=not so outstanding....Just right fantastic....to cold = fantastic shave but to cold = uncomfortable shave for me JMHO

[cegadede]

BIC Sensitive shaving cream. At least the one made in Brazil has lanolin.

[kingfisher]

Prairie Creations offers a version of shaving soap that contains lanolin.