View Full Version : Beginners Razors - How many interested?
Fellas,
I am thinking about going on an "ebay spree" and picking up a bunch of straight razors, honin' them up, then turning them around to forum members -so they have shave ready razors on the cheap. How many of you guys would be interested?
Joel, I can't make a firm commitment right now... but I'm at least interested... would like to see/hear how this progresses. Maybe this will be my means by which to get in to straight shaving???
Joel, I can't make a firm commitment right now... but I'm at least interested... would like to see/hear how this progresses. Maybe this will be my means by which to get in to straight shaving???
I've got 2 or 3 right now.... they are mighty rough lookin' - but should shave ok, I should have my Norton 4K/8K show up tomorrow, so maybe there will be a few available by early next week. My goal is to get razors to guys at about $20 or less shipped.
vinny1957
11-01-2006, 05:57 PM
I am I am!!!!
GeeQue
11-01-2006, 06:22 PM
I would consider this. The problem is that I don't know how to use one at all.
letterk
11-01-2006, 06:25 PM
I'm interested.
skibum
11-01-2006, 06:25 PM
Joel, count me in!! :biggrin:
moses
11-01-2006, 07:33 PM
Joel,
Well, $20 sounds mighty cheap. Which sounds nice to me. I need a learner, before I get into my Wacker. My only concern is to make sure I get something decent quality. In other words, I would want to be sure I was getting something with a really good edge, and a steel that would hold that edge at least passably well. And also be decent for a beginner to learn honing on. I would rather pay $60 if I had to in order to be sure I was getting something that was a good standard for what a shaving edge should be, and that wouldn't have me trying to learn honing on a crappy steel. But if I can get that for $20, Hell Yes! I don't really care what it looks like, of course, at that price.
-Mo
NickVedros
11-01-2006, 08:12 PM
I agree with what Mo said. I'd rather pay a little more if it meant getting something of value versus a razor of limited use and limited value. What else would be needed? Strop?
Shaving with a straight razor looks damned intimidating, but I definitely want to try it. Lessons included in the deal, right?
Mike
Well.... I don't know how they will shave, until I give 'em a go. Of course, each one will be different. You could always buy a new one, and send it my way for me to hone up, but of course, that'll be pricey. One of the razors for instance is an M Jung Lynn gave me quite some time ago, and the blade is all sorts of wacky - but it should hone up, and shave decent. Are these show stoppers? No.... but to purchase a razor for say..... $10, have it shipped to me for about $5, then ship it out to you for $5 - you are at about $20.... anything much more than that - and it just pays to jump up to $50 or so, and get something awful nice, but some fellas don't want to do that, as a strop will set ya back $30 or so as well.
Is a $50 or so razor going to look a lot nicer? Yeah. Is it going to shave better? Depends on the razor.
JohnP
11-01-2006, 11:00 PM
As another Straight razor junkie,
I just wanted to add that 20 bucks is an outstanding deal for ANY straight razor ready to shave; in many cases the honing alone is worth that if you do not have the experience (and equipment) yourself to do so.
Good deal if you can do this Joel.
John P.
rtaylor61
11-02-2006, 02:36 AM
As another Straight razor junkie,
I just wanted to add that 20 bucks is an outstanding deal for ANY straight razor ready to shave; in many cases the honing alone is worth that if you do not have the experience (and equipment) yourself to do so.
Good deal if you can do this Joel.
John P.
John,
I was just thinking this. Hell, I'm not a newbie, but I'm probably interested!!! In a few!
Randy
I think there would be considerable interest in a roughly $20, serviceable razor. A beginner doesn't need a collector's item to start with, only a sharp, shave ready blade. It doesn't take long to determine where straights fit into one's shaving scheme, and this idea may be just the thing to jump start potential users.
Whenever I see Joel's avatar, I think of this teapot.
http://www.necessiteas.com/image.aspx?storename=necessiteas&ItemID=5582238
Dennis
11-02-2006, 06:26 AM
Yup. I'd be mighty interested.
Dennis
wess76
11-02-2006, 06:38 AM
Joel, I would be very interested. I think it is a great idea for a newbie like myself to try a straight without breaking the bank.---------Wess
Capt. Pat
11-02-2006, 07:00 AM
Joel, while I don't have a need (I already have several inexpensive straights that are honed and ready to go) I think it's a great opportunity you are offering for folks to try their hand at straight razor shaving. :smile: :smile:
Suzuki
11-02-2006, 07:10 AM
Joel - this is very generous of you - I hope you don't have a job, as this could likely become a full time one!
For those of you who don't know, the standard price to make a razor shave-ready (honing/stroping) is $20 (not including shiping each way) - this is on top of the price of the razor. So $20 plus shipping for a shave-ready razor is a screaming good deal.
As for those who are concerned about getting a POS, while I'm not an expert, from my research, back in the day, there were a lot of good razors made under several names (in many cases, they were made by the same factory, as there were relatively few manufacturers of razor blanks and finished razors). The consensu among the people I've spoken to is that the razors made in Germany, Sweden, England or the US were generally of decent quality and make decent shavers.
Even if you decide that straights are for you, having an extra shaving-sharp razor isn't a bad thing. If you keep it shaving sharp, you can likely flip it to another noob for the same price you paid for it.
Basically, its hard to go wrong if you take Joel up on this.
moses
11-02-2006, 08:13 AM
Just to be clear... I read my earlier post and hope it did not come off wrong. I was just posting honestly my thoughts on whether or not I would want one, and the factors.
On the whole though, I think it is an extremely generous offer on Joel's part, and he is quite the gentleman for offering to help beginners get into the sport like this.
-Mo
boboakalfb
11-02-2006, 08:25 AM
I'd be interested for sure...thanks for the offer.
Suzuki
11-02-2006, 08:29 AM
Mo, I thought you were asking a legitimate question - many people (myself included) think that the only people who make straights are Dovo and Thiers and are unfamiliar with other brands.
I was just trying to explain that there are lots of good antique razors around that just need some TLC to bring them back to shaving sharpness. They won't be showpieces, but they will be good shavers, which is all that's important when you get started. The funny thing is that lots of the experienced folks like the antique razors and have little interest in buying "modern" (if you can apply that term to a straight:smile: ) razors.
If you look hard, are patient, you can get e-bay razors that clean up nicely for very little $$. You can also get great deals at antique/junk stores, flea markets and garage sales if you want to go that route.
If you want a new one (not NOS), then Dovo and TI are really the only ones to consider, other than custom jobs.
There's nothing to fear in old, vintage straights- they were state of the art at the time. An analogy would be vacuum tubes for audio gear- the best ones were made during the height of the cold war, and tube geeks would much rather use NOS from the early 60's than anything made today.
One of my very best shavers is a humble Shumate, made between 1904 and 1919.
If you want a new one (not NOS), then Dovo and TI are really the only ones to consider, other than custom jobs.
There's nothing to fear in old, vintage straights- they were state of the art at the time. An analogy would be vacuum tubes for audio gear- the best ones were made during the height of the cold war, and tube geeks would much rather use NOS from the early 60's than anything made today.
One of my very best shavers is a humble Shumate, made between 1904 and 1919.
I have several razors that are around $1,000.... and my best shaving razor (hands down) I bought off of ebay for $15 shipped.
My goal is to offer a few rough razors dirt cheap (around $20 shipped) then a few mid range ones, and maybe 1-2 mint ones. If it all goes well, and if there is a desire, I could pick up some of the new chinese "arrow" razors that allegidly shave pretty well - and they are mighty inexpensive as well.
Suzuki
11-02-2006, 09:35 AM
I have several razors that are around $1,000.... and my best shaving razor (hands down) I bought off of ebay for $15 shipped.
Ain't that always the case - the same applies to fountain pens - one of my favourites is a cheapie I bought on e-bay for $10 that writes as well as all but one of my expensive pens.
As long as the blade is in good condition, is made of good steel, properly sharpened and the handles/pins are serviceable, you're in business. Once you go beyond this, you're into aesthetics - which don't help the shave worth a damn.
Joel, with all the razors you're going to be honing, you'll soon be the resident "honemeister"!
I will post some pictures of the older razors in the next few days when they are ready to ship - but I will have a new...
http://www.coolshaving.com/ahpimages/506p.jpg
http://www.coolshaving.com/ahpimages/504p.jpg
http://www.col-conk.com/506p.jpg
MSRP is over $100, honed/shipped to you, it should be $50. There will only be one available, no box.
One more note - Tony Miller has beginners strops for $23 a pop - and can do "seconds" as well for a little less.... mighty inexpensive.... this might make it possible to get the whole setup (strop/razor/barber hone) for $50 or so. Not bad at all.
+1 on that.
I bought a Tony Miller "2nd" for a friend a few months ago, and was shocked to find that it was better than my Dovo, which cost around 4-5 times as much.
PalmettoB
11-02-2006, 10:13 AM
I've been thinking about trying a straight for a month or so, but I have to admit I had no idea where to start. I didn't want to order a new one and then have to go through the process of sending it off to be properly honed. This would be a great opportunity, and I am DEFINITELY interested.
Suzuki
11-02-2006, 10:13 AM
The beginner's strop is a great deal - for another $11, you can go up to the standard strop, which has better hardware AND linen.
After shopping around, reading reviews and talking to Tony, I bought from him and am eagerly awaiting delivery of my strops.
NickVedros
11-02-2006, 10:36 AM
I apologize for the ignorance of my earlier post. This is an outstanding deal and a great opportunity for someone like me to try a straight razor without getting in too deep. I hope it comes together.
Mike
Jimmy Gee
11-02-2006, 11:14 AM
I would definitely be interested.
JohnP
11-02-2006, 11:17 AM
Mike,
I'm sure no one here has any problem with your posts. What many don't know is that while Dovo and Thiers Issard may be the only game in town NOW, in the past they were not. Many companies which made superior straight razors either went out of business, or due to decreasing demand, ceased their production of straights. A couple good examples are W.R.Case (US), Henkels (Germany) Dubl Duck (US and Germany). Any of these company's razors would make the short list for quite a few people. I've seen some new Case straights, but I think the new ones are re-branded Dovos. Not that that is bad, but you see what I mean.
The OTHER thing that happened to many of the best razor manufacturers is that they were completely and utterly destroyed during the various bombing raids and other fighting during WWII. Solingen, being an industrial center, was essentially a bomb magnet.
So when one gets an old straight, it can sometimes be even BETTER than what is currently available. Steel is not necessarily "new" technology, nor are any of the popular tempering processes used (Friodurs have been cryogenically tempered for decades.... Dubl Duck wonderedges were ELECTRICALLY tempered, allowing greater control of the tempering process, and TI's lead-hardening? been around a LOOONG time).
I don't think Joel has even owned a crappy razor (can't say that about myself...I have owned a Pakistani razor, and even shaved with it...).
If it comes shave ready, and it were me, I'd just be waiting to pull the trigger.
John P.
MBlatt
11-02-2006, 12:20 PM
As much as my AD would love to try something new, I'm going to have to pass. Perhaps a few months down the road, I'll drop you a line joel and help me pick out a nice new razor to start out with.
RueTheDay
11-02-2006, 05:54 PM
If you want a new one (not NOS), then Dovo and TI are really the only ones to consider, other than custom jobs.
Henckels is selling new razors again. In fact, Nordstroms is starting to carry them.
bearbeard
11-02-2006, 06:00 PM
I would be very interested in this. Not sure when I could jump in. But for $20 or less if I read that right, I am sure I could manage.
JohnP
11-02-2006, 08:04 PM
Henckels is selling new razors again. In fact, Nordstroms is starting to carry them.
If this is true then it is indeed good news, especially if J.A. Henckels is making them and not just stamping their names onto a Dovo. Nothing against Dovo's, but why pay extra if that is what one is buying....
If Nordstrom is carrying them I imagine they are frightfully expensive...
Have you priced one?
John P.
I would like to say that I'm interested in this experiment also. I realize here is a great opportunity for me to make the leap of faith into straights. Once again Joel you continue to help us all push the envelope. I do have a couple of nagging questions in the back of my mind though.
1. I found the HD or so called beginner razor not to be such a good fit for me... is there some way to pair up a straight with a so called comfort expectations? (Man this is hard to express in words) I guess what I'm asking is... I see so many straights, with different specs how do you know what would be a good fit? And could you match a razor to be similar to what you enjoy already?
2. Since I don't know jack about this... after the razor is honed is that it? How often must a razor be honed?
Sorry to sound like an idiot about all this...
LX_Emergency
11-03-2006, 12:27 AM
1) What type of razor or another is mostly really dependent on personal preference. Some people say that they have a heavy beard and need a heavier razor. For them this might be true, but for me the size doens't really matter in shaving properties. As long as the thing is wicked sharp it doens't really matter what size it is. I've had 4/8 old razors that shaved just as well as my 7/8 Thiers Issard. Sharpness is what counts most.
2) Once a razor is honed it will need to be stropped every time you shave with it. Then once every while (depends on the shaver once again) it will need to be re-honed lightly. All that is needed in such a case is to freshen up the edge. Some people do this with a Paddle strop and pastes. I personally do this with a Belgian Coticule hone. Either works just fine. For me it's after about a month or two of use that I need to do this. But this is because I'm currently only using one razor really untill I get back the two I've sent out for repair. Also I only shave once every two days. (just for comparison) With my straight no more is needed anyway and if I do more my skin gets sensitive to the touch (I have very sensitive skin).
So all we can do is tell you our experiences and someone elses will completely conflict with ours. There's too many factors to say anything for sure.
RueTheDay
11-03-2006, 05:02 AM
If this is true then it is indeed good news, especially if J.A. Henckels is making them and not just stamping their names onto a Dovo. Nothing against Dovo's, but why pay extra if that is what one is buying....
If Nordstrom is carrying them I imagine they are frightfully expensive...
Have you priced one?
John P.
Yeah.
http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/2879998?Category=&Search=True&SearchType=keywordsearch&keyword=straight+razor+in+All+Categories&origin=searchresults
Nordstroms is selling them for $149.95. You can buy them on the internet cheaper - the best price I found was at cutleryandmore.com - $99.95. But when I went to their site, they were also selling a slightly larger Friodur version for $149.95, so I bought that instead.
sparky5693
11-03-2006, 07:22 AM
I'm in.
mlebarron
11-03-2006, 08:17 AM
I'd be interested
JohnP
11-03-2006, 11:15 AM
Yeah.
http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/2879998?Category=&Search=True&SearchType=keywordsearch&keyword=straight+razor+in+All+Categories&origin=searchresults
Nordstroms is selling them for $149.95. You can buy them on the internet cheaper - the best price I found was at cutleryandmore.com - $99.95. But when I went to their site, they were also selling a slightly larger Friodur version for $149.95, so I bought that instead.
Bummer, doesn't look like the originals, so if I were a betting man,
I'd say they're re-branded Dovos.
Still, for 100 bucks it might still be a good deal.
My short list of favorite razors is highly populated by old Henckels.... I have a 401 5/8 that is one of the most forgiving razors to sharpen, strop and shave with, as well as 3 Friodurs, that while not as forgiving on the hone and strop, once "there" give amazing shaves and keep their edge for quite some time. In fact the Friodur line of razors are the ones that got me to reconsider my original bias against stainless straight razors...
John P.
acb13013
11-03-2006, 11:43 AM
What the heck - I've always been curious about straights. I'm in.
Scorpio
11-03-2006, 11:55 AM
I'm interested. I am currently looking for inexpensive razors to start my journey. Thanks a bunch.
Raf
Bummer, doesn't look like the originals, so if I were a betting man,
I'd say they're re-branded Dovos.
Still, for 100 bucks it might still be a good deal.
My short list of favorite razors is highly populated by old Henckels.... I have a 401 5/8 that is one of the most forgiving razors to sharpen, strop and shave with, as well as 3 Friodurs, that while not as forgiving on the hone and strop, once "there" give amazing shaves and keep their edge for quite some time. In fact the Friodur line of razors are the ones that got me to reconsider my original bias against stainless straight razors...
John P.
Try a Dovo stainless #41 blade...... in my opinion they are even better. My 5/8 genuine MOP in stainless is among my finest shavers.... I think the #41 blade comes on 4-5 different handles. :smile:
boboakalfb
11-03-2006, 12:21 PM
Try a Dovo stainless #41 blade...... in my opinion they are even better. My 5/8 genuine MOP in stainless is among my finest shavers.... I think the #41 blade comes on 4-5 different handles. :smile:
I saw it in the Perlex Handle...not nearly as nice as the MOP but at less than half of the cost I thought it was a pretty good looking razor. Not sure how the Perlex looks in person though...afraid it may look a little cheap.
I saw it in the Perlex Handle...not nearly as nice as the MOP but at less than half of the cost I thought it was a pretty good looking razor. Not sure how the Perlex looks in person though...afraid it may look a little cheap.
The pearlex is "ok" looking, but for $100 you can also get a dovo with genuine ebony handles, and the stainless blade... i'd take genuine ebony over plastic pearlex.
boboakalfb
11-03-2006, 01:48 PM
The pearlex is "ok" looking, but for $100 you can also get a dovo with genuine ebony handles, and the stainless blade... i'd take genuine ebony over plastic pearlex.
Yeah...I didn't realize that Classic had the MOP (Although not in stock) for $189...that seems much more palatable than the $250 I saw on another site. For $100 the Ebony would be nice...I was afraid the perlex may look "cheesy or cheap" in person.
RueTheDay
11-03-2006, 02:18 PM
Bummer, doesn't look like the originals, so if I were a betting man,
I'd say they're re-branded Dovos.
Still, for 100 bucks it might still be a good deal.
I don't know about the one on the Nordstroms site, but the 6/8 Friodur I bought from Culteryandmore.com is definitely NOT a re-branded Dovo.
geoff
11-03-2006, 03:39 PM
I was thinking of trying out a straight and this certainly seems an amazing way to get into it.
Would shipping to Canada via united states postal be possible?
-Geoff
vinny1957
11-03-2006, 04:31 PM
Where can I find Tony Miller?
Vinny
boboakalfb
11-03-2006, 04:35 PM
Where can I find Tony Miller?
Vinny
Here... (http://www.thewellshavedgentleman.com/)
Tony Miller
11-03-2006, 07:06 PM
Vinny,
I am here most days when not typing away at SRP. Joel is really doing a good thing here. I used to hone the razors I sell but it is quite time consuming to do it on the scale he is going to be doing. He deserves a real thank you for this offer.
I send off the razors I sell to one of the SRP (and B&B) Honemeisters, EL for honing now and he far surpasses what I was able to do. Joel and I have thought about combining shipment of beginner strops and razors to save a few more $$ for you guys just starting out.
Joel, my hat is of to you buddy for this good hearted undertaking. Thank you.
Take care,
Tony
Vinny,
I am here most days when not typing away at SRP. Joel is really doing a good thing here. I used to hone the razors I sell but it is quite time consuming to do it on the scale he is going to be doing. He deserves a real thank you for this offer.
I send off the razors I sell to one of the SRP (and B&B) Honemeisters, EL for honing now and he far surpasses what I was able to do. Joel and I have thought about combining shipment of beginner strops and razors to save a few more $$ for you guys just starting out.
Joel, my hat is of to you buddy for this good hearted undertaking. Thank you.
Take care,
Tony
Tony... you "da man." I can't even begin to explain how much better your strops are than the "competition" - your strops really embarass the hell out of 'em..... now I have no idea what to do with my mighty expensive German strops! I'd sell 'em.... but I wouldn't even feel right doing so, as your's are that much superior I'd never recommend anything else to a straight razor shaver.
JohnP
11-04-2006, 11:53 AM
Guys,
This is a great deal.
Joel, haven't tried that particular Dovo, although I'm a fan of them in general. My opinion on the Henckels at Nordstrom, is that if one already knows it is a Dovo, why pay an extra 50 bucks for the Henckels name?
Of course if it is truly a Henckels, that would be neat, but otherwise, I'd just buy the Dovo. A real Henckels? sure.
Why spend the extra money otherwise.
Also thought I'd mention I admire your patience....that's gonna be a lot of work getting everyone those razors ready.
Combine one of those with a strop from Tony, and its a set that would have made me envious when I was starting out.
John P.
jpweston
11-04-2006, 05:27 PM
I am definitely interested!
Thanks for creating the opportunity!
j.
Padron
11-04-2006, 09:20 PM
Hi Joel,
Great thread! I am also very interested, this is awesome!! Thank you very much for offering to do this for us.:smile:
hedliniv
11-05-2006, 04:16 PM
if there is still room I'd be interest Joel!
vinny1957
11-05-2006, 07:52 PM
Thanks for the response Tony!
Vinny
Mottern Man
11-06-2006, 07:42 AM
dude i am down
i always wanted to try the strop thing just too lazy for the shopping
vcowman
11-08-2006, 10:00 PM
count me in for a straight razor, i would be interested in an inexpensive strop as well :biggrin:
Kyle Stoner
11-09-2006, 01:34 AM
I think I would do it, but then again might it be more mindless to just pick up a razor that uses replacement blades a la Feather AC or Shavette?
"and my best shaving razor (hands down) I bought off of ebay for $15 shipped."
Something like this would be 100% a-ok for me and satisfy me forever. I wouldn't need anything else! But again, this comes back to the idea of having to learn to hone and buying a strop...so I have to ask..what would you all think about getting this from Joel to learn, and then upgrading to a 'disposable' SE like shavette or Feather AC?
TimmyBoston
11-09-2006, 04:47 AM
Joel this is a great idea. If didn't already have a straight I would definately be in. Kudos to you for helping out some new straight shavers, very cool! :thumbup:
Also you might be able to work with Tony and do a little package with the beginners strop as well, just a thought.
TimmyBoston
11-09-2006, 04:51 AM
so I have to ask..what would you all think about getting this from Joel to learn, and then upgrading to a 'disposable' SE like shavette or Feather AC?
I don't know much about the Shavette's, but from the little I know I've heard they really aren't very good shavers. The Feathers are, but they really are ninja assassin sharp. Rumor has even Scotto had to get rid of his Feather straight. They are much easier in terms of maintainance, but as a wise moderator here told me, there is something magical about a living piece of steel that you continously hone and craft yourself.
boboakalfb
11-09-2006, 08:22 AM
Something like this would be 100% a-ok for me and satisfy me forever. I wouldn't need anything else! But again, this comes back to the idea of having to learn to hone and buying a strop...so I have to ask..what would you all think about getting this from Joel to learn, and then upgrading to a 'disposable' SE like shavette or Feather AC?
I would say if you are not interested in at least learning how to strop and eventually wanted to go with a Feather AC then you should probably start out with this instrument. People have said that the pressure used for the Feather is closer to a DE than it is to a traditional straight. It would seem you would have to relearn if you went from a traditional to a Feather. My .02 based on what I have read.
Tony Miller
11-09-2006, 09:15 AM
Joel this is a great idea. If didn't already have a straight I would definately be in. Kudos to you for helping out some new straight shavers, very cool! :thumbup:
Also you might be able to work with Tony and do a little package with the beginners strop as well, just a thought.
Tim,
Joel and I are one step ahead of you! We talked about combining shipping so guys who want both Joel's pre-honed razor and one of my $23 beginner strops can get them with a single shipping cost.
Tony
fuerein
11-09-2006, 09:34 AM
Man, you guys are killing me here! First the B&B custom brush with a custom DE on the way, and now this?? Anyway, I've been curious about straights since before I joined B&B but never wanted to drop the dough for a new one plus honing, plus whatever else and end up spending 150+ on something I end up not liking. Thus, I'd really love the chance to try it out on the cheap. Joel, if you and Tony can work this out, I'm definitely interested! Thanks man.
Mini-T
11-09-2006, 10:45 AM
Count me in. It was an interest in learning straight razor shaving that led me to B&B in the first place.
Andrew
thegratenate
11-09-2006, 08:49 PM
Please email me when this happens, or if there is something already available.
I am in for sure.
I registered so that I could post this
I appreciate someone who is willing to share their skill with the rest of us in order to allow us to enjoy the privilege of a good shave.
Thanks
ncranmer(at)localnet(dot)com
detlawks
11-10-2006, 08:51 AM
I got started with a Vision about October 1, and it is great, but now I want to try a straight. Joel, your plan sounds like a great way to start, and I am ready when you have one available.
I think that Joel is going to get carpal tunnel syndrome by the time this is over.:frown:
jscott
11-10-2006, 11:46 AM
i think this is idea is great. helping to spread the word about wet shaving, allowing people to try out a new type of shaving on the cheap is fantastic idea. yes, the start up costs for straight shaving are the biggest hurdle, after that there is no cost at all, only time for maintenance.
20$ for a razor ships is a ridiculously good deal. even to pick up a blade on ebay its going to run you 10$, you pay 4$ shipping to the ebay person now you are at 14... then you hone/clean the blade then pay to ship it back out to person ordering it 4$...and at best you are already at 20$. i don't know how you are going to make this work for that price but hats off to ya and your dedication! i'd like to help people get into straight shaving as i've been pure straight shaver for almost a year now, but don't know how to do it for 20$. infact you may be taking a hit doing it for this price. perhaps 25$ would give you that extra 5$ to cover your cost, which doesn't say anything for the time it takes to hone, test shave, hone again to ensure shaving sharpness... oh and i forgot the hours of restoration/clean up to remove all the black gunk and rust that all ebay razors come loaded up with for that 10$ price range.
hats off to ya, joel. hell, i'd be willing to help hone/clean some inorder for all these guys to try if we can find a way to buy/ship for that price'ish.
~J
Now if only we could get a group buy on those Norton hones...
ajw1976
11-11-2006, 02:52 PM
Hopefully its not too late to jump in on this. I want one.
Anthony
Edcculus
11-11-2006, 06:06 PM
Hey, I'm in. I've gone this far, why not give it a whirl? Especially with this great offer. I'd like to know when you have more info.
I, too, am in. I figure why not try a new way to spend money and perhaps mangle my face. Good times... Thank you so much for putting this together. I am always amazed by the good will and dedication of folks like you on message boards. Thank you.
Jon
Ok - so not all of the razors will be $20 - as some shave ready razors I have been finding have been more than $20, then adding shipping, etc - it'd kill me. I think they'll start at $20 shipped, and hopefully most will be around $30-40.
:smile:
moses
11-13-2006, 01:58 PM
That sounds more sane. Was starting to wonder.
Btw, folks. I imagine Joel is going to be offering these as they become available and he has time to hone. Stating here that you are "in" will not necessarily guarantee a razor anytime real soon, given the volume of interest, I would imagine.
-Mo
Mottern Man
11-13-2006, 02:01 PM
Ok - so not all of the razors will be $20 - as some shave ready razors I have been finding have been more than $20, then adding shipping, etc - it'd kill me. I think they'll start at $20 shipped, and hopefully most will be around $30-40.
:smile:
Sweet I'm still down time is not an option i am very patient (i have a 11 month old) take yo time buddy
and i love cheep
it may take a while for me to learn how i just started the DE 6 months ago
before that i was a cartridge shaver (bows head in shame)
grg32
11-13-2006, 06:00 PM
Joel, first off, thanks for the offer and of course count me in. I am new to the forum and straight razors. I appreciate the offer and will check back regularly for the razors you are selling...Thanks, G2
Folks should realize that $30-40 is a very low price for a useable (read: shave ready) straight. If you don't like it, you'll likely recoup all of your money by "passing it around" to the next guy, who may well adopt it for life.
Shave-readiness is far more important than any "name" brand, or purdy scales. Three of my very best shavers cost less than 40 semolians (one was just $16!)
I can't imagine how many people started out with a rather dull, brand new blade, then nicked the bejessus out of their gorgeous new $70 strop. Long term enjoyment is far more likely to be had by going this route. Even if you fall in love with the process, and accumulate numerous, expensive straights, you'll always have a place in your heart for that first razor you learned with.
Mottern Man
11-14-2006, 06:26 AM
Folks should realize that $30-40 is a very low price for a useable (read: shave ready) straight. If you don't like it, you'll likely recoup all of your money by "passing it around" to the next guy, who may well adopt it for life.
Shave-readiness is far more important than any "name" brand, or purdy scales. Three of my very best shavers cost less than 40 semolians (one was just $16!)
I can't imagine how many people started out with a rather dull, brand new blade, then nicked the bejessus out of their gorgeous new $70 strop. Long term enjoyment is far more likely to be had by going this route. Even if you fall in love with the process, and accumulate numerous, expensive straights, you'll always have a place in your heart for that first razor you learned with.
that is the sweetest thing ever
ill never give up my first DE its my baby
getting kinda misty in here :crying:
LX_Emergency
11-16-2006, 01:17 AM
He's right though. You can have a razor by a brand no-one's ever even heard of and it'll shave like anything. And you can have a brand new Theirs-Issard or dovo that hasn't been honed and it'll shave like NOTHING.
Shaveready is the big dealbreaker on your first razor.
willist
11-17-2006, 07:26 PM
Hi, I'm a newbie without a straight razor as yet, mainly due to a tight budget. I'd love to be able to by a good shave ready razor for a good price, count me in.
Limey
11-18-2006, 07:33 AM
I am very new to DE and wetshaving but it was Dr. Moss' article that got my interest started. I would be very interested in the straight razor package you are looking to put together...thanks!
Limey
11-18-2006, 07:34 AM
Can someone tell me more about the custom B&B DE razor I saw mentioned earlier in this thread?
fuerein
11-18-2006, 09:03 AM
Can someone tell me more about the custom B&B DE razor I saw mentioned earlier in this thread?
The B&B DE is supposed to match the B&B brush, but since the people organizing it haven't gotten the details of the razor ironed out yet there hasn't been much released about it other than that they are working with manufacturers to get a B&B DE organized. They said they'd actually release information when they have the razor in a more finalized form than they currently do.
machine
11-20-2006, 02:18 PM
I would love to get in on this deal. I have been using a DE for 3 months and my goal from the beginning was to eventually get to a straight.
surfanimal
11-22-2006, 10:22 PM
Hey Joel, just wondering if you were currently working on/had any straights for the intent of this thread?
Hey Joel, just wondering if you were currently working on/had any straights for the intent of this thread?
Yep.... goings been slow though. I purchased a few, only to find some of them are really in bad shape... I'll still try to restore them, but we are talking at least 1-2 hours a pop for some of these. Ideally i'd like to amass a group of them and then offer them all at once so as to get some out there (instead of 1 or 2 a week) and see how many fellas would want a beginner strop - so as to work with Tony and cut down on the cost for you guys on shipping, etc. :smile:
surfanimal
11-22-2006, 10:44 PM
Sweet deal! Thanks for the quick update; between my imagination, and all you guys (and gals!) here on the forums make it pretty hard to not keep spending Christmas money on presents for myself!
Queen of Blades
11-22-2006, 10:46 PM
Sweet deal! Thanks for the quick update; between my imagination, and all you guys (and gals!) here on the forums make it pretty hard to not keep spending Christmas money on presents for myself!
I'm fairly sure you can't blame this on ME! That is NOT my fault! :blush:
I'm fairly sure you can't blame this on ME! That is NOT my fault! :blush:
What? :confused:
surfanimal
11-22-2006, 11:22 PM
I'm fairly sure you can't blame this on ME! That is NOT my fault! :blush:
WELLLLLLLLL...your sig DOES denote that you're the scapegoat...:tongue:
but I'll let it slide this time! :biggrin:
geoff
11-23-2006, 08:20 AM
I couldn't wait ;)
I purchased a straight. If you had been queuing people my post (#49) can be ignored.
This is still an amazing offer though; thanks for all your hard work!
-Geoff
joel maybe i could help in the "accumulation" aspect, if you handle the prep. i'd need some guidelines on what to look for, however.
Tony Miller
11-23-2006, 05:22 PM
Joel,
Keep me posted on the plans so I can have a quantity of Beginner strops available and we can combine shipping for those who need both.
Tony
The Invisible Edge
11-25-2006, 02:31 PM
Ah, gents. I already do this, but not the honing bit as, frankly, people don't want to pay for my time. However - look for me on eBay. If I say a razor is shave-ready, it is. My site is my name, I'll look forward to hearing from you. If you do se a razor you like that needs honing, well - I'm not cheap but I'm reasonable! Site - http://www.theinvisibleedge.co.uk :biggrin:
Razorlite
11-25-2006, 02:35 PM
I'm not cheap but I'm reasonable! Site - http://www.theinvisibleedge.co.uk :biggrin:
Is everyone here reading the rules??
:lol::lol:
If this is still happening, I would certainly be interested. I love a good challenge and a straight razor seems to be something that would satisfy my need to be constantly learning new things...even if it kills me :001_smile
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