An Essentially Speicktacular Contributor Drawing! [Archive]

Nick

03-22-2009, 07:54 PM

An Essentially Speicktacular Contributor (http://www.badgerandblade.com/vb/payments.php) Drawing

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With B&B continuing to grow at break-neck speeds (which means the constant need for more resources), one of the main ways we manage to continue to keep the forums free of ads for the membership is through contributions from members.

Aside from a few measely perks, and their own private forum, contributors don't receive anything for their contribution, so to say thanks, we're running the first of what we hope to be quasi-monthly drawings.

Up for grabs in this giveaway are four prizes:

Two winners will each receive:

One Badger & Blade Essential Brush
One Bottle of Speick Cologne
One Tube of Speick Shaving Cream
One Speick Shaving Stick
One Speick Shower Gel
One Speick Deodorant Stick
Two more winners will each receive a 1 oz bottle of the elusive Badger & Blade Cologne.

To enter, simply post your entry in the contributor forum. Copper contributors will receive one entry, Bronze contributors will receive two, Silver contributors will receive four, and Gold contributors will receive five.

The winners for this contest will be drawn at random and announced on April 15th.

If you're interested in joining in on the fun, as well as helping B&B, you can reach the contribution page by clicking the "More" tab at the top of the page, and clicking "Support Badger & Blade" or by clicking here (http://www.badgerandblade.com/vb/payments.php).

Please note when adding your subscription, if you choose the option marked with a * it will auto-renew in a year. If you do not want your contribution/subscription to auto-renew, choose the option without the *.

Also, a bit of fine print: Unfortunately, due to the alcohol in the colognes, none of these prizes can be shipped internationally.

thirdeye

03-22-2009, 08:05 PM

You said it, that is one Speicktacular deal for sure. Way to go B&B....I wish I was a contributor....Here's an awesome opportunity folks, jump on in today....

xbostonirishx

03-22-2009, 08:07 PM

Where do I sign up? I wouldnt mind making a donation to badger and blade. Not so much for the free drawing, I just like to support things that i use.

Also, can we still purchase a badger and blade brush?

richmondesi

03-22-2009, 08:09 PM

I want that sooo baaad

Masterofsparks

03-22-2009, 08:14 PM

WOW! Now this is great! Sign me up!! LOL I have wanted to try Speick for some time perhaps this is my chance!!

xbostonirishx

03-22-2009, 08:14 PM

OK... i should have read the post all the way through, before i got all excited amd posted...... I just became a paying member.....

Bluestaco

03-22-2009, 08:50 PM

Yeah! I've wanted to try that, too!

superchucker77

03-22-2009, 08:51 PM

Ok, I'm in.
Oh darn. I'm not a paid member. Should have read more.

SRock

03-22-2009, 09:16 PM

Goodshow fellas!

OldSaw

03-22-2009, 09:29 PM

I've put off being a contributor long enough. This starving old college student will sell some plasma this week to join in.

blade08

03-23-2009, 12:06 AM

What a great idea, too bad I live in 'internationally' :lol:

miner

03-23-2009, 12:39 AM

How about a prize you could ship overseas so us folk from across the water can play too!

pal

03-23-2009, 03:49 AM

I'm in also.

thunderball

03-23-2009, 03:52 AM

How about a prize you could ship overseas so us folk from across the water can play too!

Here, Here! :biggrin:

SRock

03-23-2009, 03:57 AM

What a great idea, too bad I live in 'internationally' :lol:

How about a prize you could ship overseas so us folk from across the water can play too!

Just do like I did, throw your name in the hat. If by chance you win you could PIF the non-shippable items to someone CONUS and at the very least you'd get the uber cool BBE out of the deal! I'm sure Nick/Joel would work with you on that. These are great guys we are talking about here.

BigRich

03-23-2009, 05:28 AM

Awesome guys! That's really cool.

Sullybob

03-23-2009, 06:05 AM

I've put off being a contributor long enough. This starving old college student will sell some plasma this week to join in.

I'll meet you at the plasma center Dennis!

Stubblefield

03-23-2009, 06:09 AM

Just figured out the whole contributor thing. Very cool.

huntmol

03-23-2009, 06:35 AM

Hats off to B&B Contributors, and to whomever thought up this excellent idea!

Dadof3

03-23-2009, 09:36 AM

This was the least I can do...glad to contribute regardless of the drawing.

Nice job, everyone!

~Paul

DBLE ARROW BLADE

03-23-2009, 09:48 AM

also, can we still purchase a badger and blade brush?

+1

Dustinl

03-23-2009, 12:25 PM

I am embarrassed for asking this but where do I find the contributor's forum?

DL

TstebinsB

03-23-2009, 12:44 PM

I am embarrassed for asking this but where do I find the contributor's forum?

DL

:eek::eek::eek:

PM sent.

Dustinl

03-23-2009, 12:48 PM

:eek::eek::eek:

PM sent.

Thank you Sir!! I have tried like bloody hell for three days to find it!

DL

gumbo

03-23-2009, 01:23 PM

I'm in.
I figure I've already garnered 20 bucks worth of info from you fine gents.

Andrew's Razor Burn

03-23-2009, 04:05 PM

I figure Im just lucky we don't get charged by the hour around here. Twenty dollars is a small price to pay for all of the info I have gathered and the time spent here.

asurjc

03-23-2009, 04:35 PM

I'll second the above post. I was wondering what exactly those Contributor tags meant. Count me in as well.

mascarasnake21

03-23-2009, 06:04 PM

Is it sad that I had no idea about the contribution part of the website until I read this? :lol:

Better late than never I guess, I'll definitely do so in the future...

DBLE ARROW BLADE

03-24-2009, 08:49 AM

I've actually asked guys in the forums before about that brush. It is awesome. Plus I live in WI, so the badger head is sure to draw attn when displayed in my bathroom. I've been watching the b/s/t for them--but haven't yet decided how I feel about used brushes--nor have I seen any.

I will definately have to join the raffle, but never win these things:mad:. Are those brushes new? and if so, after the raffle are there any leftovers that could be purchased?

TimMechEngr

03-24-2009, 08:52 AM

I'm in! I wish I could afford to give more. $20.00 is a bargain for all the info here. The Great People and Humor Involved..... PRICELESS!!!

BullGoose

03-24-2009, 01:11 PM

What a great offer. I'm in!

Penworks

03-24-2009, 07:13 PM

Its my pleasure to contribute to a wonderfull forum you have here. There is a lot of work and expense that goes on behind the scenes that most take for granted. Thank you :smile:

DanOK

03-24-2009, 07:20 PM

I agreed, least I can do.

Mazeman

03-25-2009, 04:21 AM

I am embarrassed for asking this but where do I find the contributor's forum?

DL

I became a contributor yesterday, but I also can't find the contributors forum.

Could someone direct me?

ETA: I see I don't have a contributor tag.
Could it still be processing?

Henrique

03-25-2009, 04:34 AM

I became a contributor yesterday, but I also can't find the contributors forum.

Could someone direct me?

ETA: I see I don't have a contributor tag.
Could it still be processing?

You only be able to see the forum after having the tag.

How did you pay? There was a thread somewhere where one of the mods stated that the processing was different depending on the method of payment.

Mazeman

03-25-2009, 06:28 AM

You only be able to see the forum after having the tag.

How did you pay? There was a thread somewhere where one of the mods stated that the processing was different depending on the method of payment.

I think I know the problem.

I paid by PayPal, but my "backup" credit card was expired, so that delays processing. It's all been updated now.

Moose

03-25-2009, 08:52 AM

I'm in. It's not much given all the stuff I've learned here.

It seems there's enough interest in the brush from those of us who missed the boat the first time. Might it be possible to do another production run? Pleeeeeeeeze?

OldSaw

03-25-2009, 10:52 AM

I haven't used Paypal in ages. It took me a while to get the right password and then update my address, email and debit card.

krisbarger

03-25-2009, 11:05 AM

I am in also. Thanks for the website guys.

Davis211

03-25-2009, 05:43 PM

I'm In!

Ru4scuba?

03-25-2009, 06:18 PM

Can somebody PM me the requirements to be a contributor?

Ru4scuba?

03-25-2009, 06:26 PM

Guess I should have read the whole thread LOL!

HiFiGuy

03-25-2009, 08:23 PM

krisbarger

03-25-2009, 08:26 PM

Ok..... lets call it a raffle. :eek:

HiFiGuy

03-25-2009, 08:37 PM

It doesn't matter what you call it, it still qualifies as an illegal lottery if you require some form of "consideration" to enter.

Examples of consideration include conditioning entry on the participants, such as requiring:
1. purchase of a product;
2. monetary payment;
3. visiting a store, or
4. provision of detailed consumer information.

Like I said, I believe all we need to do to be legal is have a way to enter the drawing without requiring a purchase or payment....

biomesh

03-25-2009, 08:39 PM

A raffle can require the purchase of tickets(contribution status), so a raffle it is.

krisbarger

03-25-2009, 08:43 PM

It doesn't matter if you change the name, it still qualifies as an illegal lottery if you require "consideration" to enter.

Examples of consideration include conditioning entry on the participants, such as requiring:
1. purchase of a product;
2. monetary payment;
3. visiting a store, or
4. provision of detailed consumer information.

Like I said, I believe all we need to do to be legal is have a way to enter the drawing without requiring a purchase or payment....

I am sure you would, with 24 posts and no donation to keep a site like this going. Maybe everybody should have to pay to join this site... period. That would fix our little run in with the LAW.:biggrin:

HiFiGuy

03-25-2009, 09:00 PM

A raffle can require the purchase of tickets(contribution status), so a raffle it is.

This is a common misconception, and I believe for the most part, it's not true.
In some cases, like charity fund-raising yes, but B&B is not a charity, and would have to register a raffle in some states anyway.

Here's the info: Raffles (http://rafflefaq.com/united-states-raffle-laws/)

Maybe there is a real attorney on the site that can offer guidance on this issue. Maybe you would all believe him instead. I only wish to prevent any potential legal unpleasantness from befalling B&B.

Please refrain from "shooting the messenger", or throwing barbs.
Thanks, I'm going to bed....

krisbarger

03-25-2009, 09:10 PM

So.... How does one acquire a brush with the sweet clear handle? Someone pray tell.

OldSaw

03-25-2009, 09:56 PM

Guys, I'm surprised nobody mentioned this, and I hate to be a party-pooper, but I believe the way this drawing is setup constitutes an illegal lottery. :eek:

Legally, you can't require a purchase to enter or win (known as "consideration" in legalese) That is why you always hear the phrase "no purchase necessary to enter or win" in relation to drawings like this.

To be legal, I believe this drawing MUST have a way to enter that does not require any purchase or payment!

Here's some more information about this topic: Illegal Lotteries (http://www.yourlegalcorner.com/article.asp?Cat=Internet%20Alert&ID=27)

Incidently, I'm not a lawyer, but I am a compliance officer for a bank - we deal with these sorts of things ocassionally. Oh, and I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night, too! :biggrin:

I was hoping no one would bring this up. However, there could be some sort of post count and/or length of membership requirement that may be a work around. Legal fees could easily offset any gain if this is going to be an issue.

I think 24 posts is a little weak, but then again a few members could simply start a post doping thread to up their count. Time, on the other hand can't be faked.

Cheech

03-26-2009, 01:22 AM

Maybe there is a real attorney on the site that can offer guidance on this issue. Maybe you would all believe him instead. I only wish to prevent any potential legal unpleasantness from befalling B&B.

Please refrain from "shooting the messenger", or throwing barbs.
Thanks, I'm going to bed....

I am probably with the majority here who, at first blush, take this in a negative way.

I'm also willing to give the benefit of the doubt and believe that this was made with the best intentions.

Of course, I'm guessing that there is a lawyer here somewhere who can comment on this. I'm also guessing that the fact that this site is a not-for-profit (social group), these items are undoubtedly being given away by individuals (and not purchased by a corporation), and the low dollar value of the "prize" would affect any possible legal problems.

It is truly unfortunate that we live in a litigious society where legality has replaced morality and etiquette. Not pointing any fingers. Just making a general observation.

But then again, what do I know? I'm a bear. I suck the heads off fish.

biomesh

03-26-2009, 04:57 AM

Maybe there is a real attorney on the site that can offer guidance on this issue. Maybe you would all believe him instead. I only wish to prevent any potential legal unpleasantness from befalling B&B.

Please refrain from "shooting the messenger", or throwing barbs.
Thanks, I'm going to bed....

Ok, IMO I would add few clauses to make this fit your interpretation of fairness.

- A non paying contributor can have an entry if they have been a member of B&B for over 4 years and have over 1,000 posts
- A non paying contributor can have an entry if they have received a merit award
- A non paying contributor can have an entry if they have donated over $200 of shaving related gear for PIFs
- A non paying contributor can have entry if they have over 10,000 posts

If you meet the above criteria then you truly have contributed in some way.

I still think it is sad how many people feel such a high degree of entitlement without doing anything.

jazzman

03-26-2009, 05:28 AM

Incidently, I'm not a lawyer, but I am a compliance officer for a bank - we deal with these sorts of things ocassionally. Oh, and I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night, too! :biggrin:

I'm not a doctor or a physicist, but I'm going to perform nuclear surgery tomorrow, if I feel like it.:lol:

HiFiGuy

03-26-2009, 06:59 PM

Ok, IMO I would add few clauses to make this fit your interpretation of fairness.

- A non paying contributor can have an entry if they have been a member of B&B for over 4 years and have over 1,000 posts
- A non paying contributor can have an entry if they have received a merit award
- A non paying contributor can have an entry if they have donated over $200 of shaving related gear for PIFs
- A non paying contributor can have entry if they have over 10,000 posts

If you meet the above criteria then you truly have contributed in some way.

I still think it is sad how many people feel such a high degree of entitlement without doing anything.

Biomesh - you are correct - conditions such as the ones you mention can be added to make it more difficult to qualify for the drawing. I have absolutely no problem with that! That is a common (and legal) method used to limit the number of participants. All I am advising is that there must be a way to enter - that does not involve payment - in order to avoid being classified as an illegal lottery.

While I would love to win these great prizes, I certainly understand wanting to reserve this for certain members. It just should be done in a legal way. I'm fine with it if I don't qualify, no problem. My (short) experience on B&B leads me to believe that there are alot of smart, quality members that like to do things (like shaving) the right way. Well, I want to help B&B do this the right way, even if doesn't include me.

BTW, I don't think these laws were written to create or satisfy a sense of entitlement...I believe they were written to protect consumers.

joel

03-26-2009, 09:21 PM

Guys, I'm surprised nobody mentioned this, and I hate to be a party-pooper, but I believe the way this drawing is setup constitutes an illegal lottery. :eek:

Legally, you can't require a purchase to enter or win (known as "consideration" in legalese) That is why you always hear the phrase "no purchase necessary to enter or win" in relation to drawings like this.

To be legal, I believe this drawing MUST have a way to enter that does not require any purchase or payment!

Here's some more information about this topic: Illegal Lotteries (http://www.yourlegalcorner.com/article.asp?Cat=Internet%20Alert&ID=27)

Incidently, I'm not a lawyer, but I am a compliance officer for a bank - we deal with these sorts of things ocassionally. Oh, and I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night, too! :biggrin:

There is... Moderators have access to the contributors forum and are able to enter the contest. Work your butt off to become a mod. Also, those on the development team who have made significant contributions, merit award winners, etc get access to the contrib forum and can enter.

joshmpdx

03-26-2009, 09:56 PM

Incidently, I'm not a lawyer, but I am a compliance officer for a bank

Our Moderators are Lawyers :smile:

adamant

03-27-2009, 05:14 AM

Is April 15 also the last day one has to become a contributer and to be counted for the contest?

Also, how do mods become mods, maybe we could have a little history of their climb to stardom.

ginantonix

03-27-2009, 06:50 PM

To get the thread back on topic...

I'm not sure if Canada counts as international shipping (I suspect it does) but I'm going to contribute anyway. It's a very small amount relative to the enjoyment that this forum has given me, not to mention the exponential improvement that wet shaving has brought to my mornings. I also appreciate the tremendous effort that the mods go to to keep the forum active, relevant and professional. Thanks a million, guys!

I always wondered what the 'contributor' tag meant.... Now I know.

SavantStrike

03-29-2009, 03:35 PM

Well. I thought contributor meant either wrote an article or two, or it meant donated money.... I never saw the link to donate till now because B&B is a classy site without a bunch of pushy "pay us now" signs, but now that I've seen where to contribute, I did :biggrin:.

I guess I'll enter while I'm at it.

JBHoren

03-29-2009, 03:41 PM

As-if I need any more shaving products...

...but I'm a "Good as Gold" B&B Contributor, so wotthehell, let's play!

rogimoto

03-30-2009, 06:27 PM

I'm not a doctor or a physicist, but I'm going to perform nuclear surgery tomorrow, if I feel like it.:lol:

I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV......that and my post count needs some work.

Devil Doc

04-06-2009, 01:34 PM

I'm in. I've got my my monies worth in the short time I've been here.

Doc.

redbike

04-06-2009, 01:59 PM

I'm in. Thanks very much mods.

tigerblades

04-16-2009, 11:22 AM

It's April 16th and I'm just curious who won the goodies.

adamant

04-16-2009, 12:16 PM

The winners were posted in the contributor's forum. I'm not sure if or why they weren't made public, but I'll let someone more official make that announcement.

freddy88

04-25-2009, 10:32 AM

For all the fantastic information and help I have received here, $20.00 is a bargain. Too bad I missed the drawing but I have won more in helpful advice than I ever thought I could. If I can spend that amount for a used razor that may or may not be great, I can certainly spend it for guaranteed helpful hints, new ideas, and just plain fun. I just sent in my contribution. Thanks B&B. :thumbsup: