The B&B Gentleman's Athletic Club

[Gruder]

"You may delay, but time will not." -- Benjamin Franklin

The B&B Gentleman's Athletic Club is a place for members to discuss fitness and weight loss goals in the encouraging and supportive environment that is B&B.

How can you join? Easy. Just post your BMI/weight/beltsize, etc., whatever you'd like, in this thread (a good BMI calculator is here (http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm)), then check in from time to keep everyone updated on your progress. Fitness goals and tips are welcomed, as well! If you get a chance, sending an encouraging PM to someone on the thread every now and again would be quite in keeping with the gentlemanly qualities of B&B.

We're hopeful that the examples, tips, and eventual successes posted in this thread will encourage others to seek the confidence and energy that comes with improved fitness. After all, no one wants to be outlived by his shave soap collection! Thanks to Terry Awhile for inspiring the B&B GAC with his original thread, and to all who've assisted in moving the Club forward.

Your turn! Post your info/goals and be sure to keep us updated!

Members of the BBGAC are also keeping track of their goals and progress in a wiki page here (http://wiki.badgerandblade.com/index.php/Athletic_Club) (thanks perry!), and we've formed a locker room for even more ongoing chatter here (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/group.php?groupid=11) (thanks sol92258!). All are welcome to join and post in both places in addition to in this thread. Join us!

[Terry Awhile]

I admit it. I am a pig of a man, and maybe, just possibly....I need to fall back down to earth and succumb to an idealized, marketing driven ideal of masculine physical appearance.

What I mean is, I done fell off like Keith Sweat.

Lost my mojo.

"Costanza-ized".

I got fat, and now I got myself one of those round, moon-like Irish double chin/chubby cheeks/layered faces---small boy-trapped in a thirty year old's soft body looks going on.

Seriously, I cannot fit into me trousers, and yet I contunue with the brews, grinders and etc., up to, and including: pastrami, pizza, wings and chowder.

Have not exercised in months.

I am going to to break down and become a "New Year's guy"....but was curious to see if any other fellows here had the same lack of self-respect hat they want to apply "corrective action" to?

Perhaps we could set up up a loser's club and, put up some small increments of dough, (via pay pay, or something) and have some impartial judges award prizes of the male vanity products variety?

Not sure if this is even allowed to suggest...so, let me know.

Otherwise, I will just post online about my sweaty, bacon-smelling struggle to regain my place in the humans-who can-wear-normal-clothing race, and invite you all to cut me down with derisive cheers of "give it up, fatty!" and, "you're too old, fatty!".



I just thought I would put it out there, since this board is quickly becoming my fave "online haunt". (I have "online haunts"....hence the reason I have no self-respect, and stretch marks. Christ, I want to die)
:blushing:

[DunEdinRanger]

I'm in. I definitely need to De Plumpify.

[BroJohn]

Me, too.

I gradually got up to 248#, unaware that I was gaining weight. Restricted my food intake a little bit, gave up the junky empty calories starting this past mid-November. That alone let me shed 18 pounds in 6 weeks. I'm 5'10" and would like to get down to 190 --40 pounds to go. If I can shed 1~2 pounds a week, that would put me in that range early next summer.

I'm 59 and my metabolism has slowed of course. It seems it is now harder and more time consuming to lose weight.

-- John Gehman

[KenS]

I'm in. I definitely need to De Plumpify.

That's a "Me Too"..
After a heart attack and having my knees wear out from osteo arthritis and over use (I'm too young for replacements), I've put on the tonnage I've kept off for forty years:frown: I always relied on exercise and a high protein diet. Now I have gout which limits my protein intake.:eek:
I'm not sure what I'll do, but you can bet I'll do something constructive.:wink:
Ken.

[Masterofsparks]

I am 54 years old and two years ago I was right at 235 lbs. ; now my wife was going on these crazy diets and she would always gain the weight back...like she needed too (she weighs 130 lbs. wet)....
I saw no future in all these crazy things so this is what I did...
I put all fast food off limits; I put sodas like coke and so forth off the table (a ton of sugar there.....If I am thirsty I get a bottle of water.) I eat 3 meals a day and make sure I don't miss one. I made an effort to slow down the speed at which I eat so that when I do get to start feeling full I stop. Growing up I was told you have to clean your plate so I broke that rule. I also started using a smaller plate. Drink plenty of water at meals. So basically smaller portions until I feel full and stop. This doesn't make you lose weight fast but you do start dropping the weight! Over the past two years I am now down to 200 lbs. Oh did I mention that I don't excersize? So 35 lbs lost in two years just through sensible eating. I just bought be a treadmill and I will start off very slow at a walk and work myself up so I don't get discouraged. Slow and steady wins the race. Give it a try. It does work. Stay away from the crap; you know what it is stay away from it. I make sure my lunch and dinner has three parts meat, veggie, and a starch. Start cooking for yourself none of the pre packaged stuff, you just might find you have a new hobby and it is fun!
Stay away from the fad diets just do what is sensible, you didn't put on the weight overnight and you will not lose it over night.

[PKHammer]

Count me in. I have pushed close to 200 within the last few years, after being a much smaller man throughout my early adult years. I did drop about 15 or so pounds over the last 6 months, only to gain most of it back. Here is to hoping some positive reinforcement and not so gentle nudging will help keep us all on track.

Personally, 2009 is going to be a year of several big changes for me. I need to get the weight thing under control before it totally gets away from me, and a good bit of that will be starting an exercise program/get off my butt commitment. I'm leaning towards signing up for a 5k and forcing myself to get in condition for that.

[Terry Awhile]

Ok, looks like we are picking up a coterie...or, if you are fat and easily defeated like me, a bunch of lint.:biggrin:

Lets get a few more guys (or dolls) and see how we can get this going.

Unfortunately, pictures, weighing, and measurement (you know, all that shallow, superficial stuff that us grooming obsessed have left behind) will probably be required.

As will the honor system. But, I get the feeling most of us chaps are ok with that? After all, we are a bunch of dudes who freely admit pining after aftershaves...


In addition to getting everyone some decent jawlines to shave, I bet we'll see some interesting takes on health and exercise, and, especially, since heart disease and so on are the number one killers of men, maybe we'll be helping to spread the word on good health practices vs. established, behavior patterns----which are, in some ways, cultural, etc., but, as we can all agree, despite our "stripes", culture and attitudes can be changed!


Just breaks my heart to see these chubby kids/kids in junior high carrying this terrible blub about, and nothing but heartbreaking health issues and image problems in their future.



So, if anyone has ideas on how we can shape this up, let me know.

I can actually show you the bad condition I brought myself too...:mad2:


I have also attached what I apparently have believed I have looked like all these months. Special thanks to Mr. Fincher.

[rickw]

I'll join in. I'm 5'8" and a XXL. Also type 2 but that is controlled. Would like to be in the 170 to 180 range. If I hold that for a year, my wife will get me a new Patek.

[DunEdinRanger]

Here it is

If I get down to 153 lbs by 30 June 2009, I will... buy myself a new razor. I don't know what yet. Maybe one of those sleek Good Fellas open comb, or a Progress, but a nifty new razor.

If I don't, all shaving purchases will be put off until I do. :w00t:

Dear God, What have I done?!?!

[gunner6477]

I'd like to get in on this action...

I'm probably going to be traveling a fair bit, so checking in might be limited at times, but I would really like to lose a few.

[jzono1]

I got weight problems too, but mine is exactly oposite. 62kg/183cm / 137 lbs/6'

[_JP_]

If I were to join, then I would already be ahead of everybody and rapidly pulling away. I have shed about 20 lbs since last spring, and I wasn't even trying. I attribute it to the fact that I have reduced my sugar intake by not drinking all of those sweet drinks. I've been drinking a lot of water, and also tea. Maybe it's the tea that's helped.

[DunEdinRanger]

I got weight problems too, but mine is exactly oposite. 62kg/183cm / 137 lbs/6'

If only I could sell you a few pounds...

[ncshaver]

Interested. What's the plan?

[DeaconKC]

I'm in. Started on the treadmill last week.

[miza_b]

I'm in. I'm 25 years old, 6'5" and 340lbs. When I graduated from HS, I was 100lbs lighter and wore size 38 pants. Now I'm having problems fitting into my size 46 pants and I even have the stretchy side kind.:frown:

I need to cut out the sweets and fast food. I've been looking at the caveman diet where you cut out grains, beans, and potatoes. I might do that.

For exercise, I already walk a good bit, but I might start trying to run or jog. I was thinking about crossfit, but I don't think I could take that right now.

I'm definitely feeling the effects of the weight on my body. I get winded just tying my shoes. I also have something called meralgia paresthetica, which is a neuropathy caused by my stomach flub cutting off my lateral femoral cutaneous nerve. If I lose weight it should go away and I'll have feeling back in my right thigh.

So yeah, count me in on this. I'll post pictures or whatever is required.

[yardpup01]

I'm in. Two years ago I was 6' and 254 lb. This past summer I had dropped to 208 by diet and exercise but I'm now back to 220. My goal has been and remains to hit 190. Best of luck to everyone.

[jrouse]

I too have rebounded from a wight loss...like a freaking yoyo. I was at 260 in april, down to 223 by september and am now back up to 247...bad news bears. I'm in!

[ScotchDave]

I'm in. This summer I got down to 88kg (194 lb) from 100kg (220.5 lb).

As soon as I got back to university I bounced back up to 94 kg (207.2 lb) and I'm having real trouble losing it again.

I've been tracking my body fat percentage and have decided to try and get down below 15%, currently I'm at 27.8%.

[crowdog]

Count me in as well. I am changing jobs, so I couldn't afford a lot to "join in", but it would be great just to have a check in point.

I "know" what to do, but it is tough for me to give up the sweets especially.

But I am a competitve person, so seeing what others are doing would really help.

As a former Athlete and teacher, I can say increasing your exercise will be easier then changing your diet at first. I know you need both, but it is behaviorally easier to do exercise.

It would be nice to have a form we could use or something, so we could have an accurate baseline.

Marty

[crowdog]

Oh, and I think others help give us perspective. Like Terry, your pic looks pretty good already in my book, so I don't think you look as horrible as you described.

Marty

[masonjarjar]

I would participate. I've let myself go pretty bad this past year. I have a Y membership I'm not using, which I should. We have the Wii fit which makes doing certain kinds of exercize fun. When I was on a diet board years ago, we'd list our Current Weight/Goal weight every day on our posts.

As for me, I'm not going for anything too ambitious. A pound a week. I'm 5'6" and currently at 255. A pound a week would get me close to 200 by the end of the year. Since I haven't been below 220 years, reaching 200 would be a major victory for me. Plus my Dr. said that 1 lb. a week loss is a good way to go. One time I was on Atkins and lost about 60 in 8 months, but it shot right back on after I quit. I think doing it slower would up my chances of keeping it off.

-Mason

[miza_b]

I would participate. I've let myself go pretty bad this past year. I have a Y membership I'm not using, which I should. We have the Wii fit which makes doing certain kinds of exercize fun. When I was on a diet board years ago, we'd list our Current Weight/Goal weight every day on our posts.

As for me, I'm not going for anything too ambitious. A pound a week. I'm 5'6" and currently at 255. A pound a week would get me close to 200 by the end of the year. Since I haven't been below 220 years, reaching 200 would be a major victory for me. Plus my Dr. said that 1 lb. a week loss is a good way to go. One time I was on Atkins and lost about 60 in 8 months, but it shot right back on after I quit. I think doing it slower would up my chances of keeping it off.

-Mason

Personally, I don't like weighing myself every day. Maybe once a week and posting it. I don't know about everyone else, but when I exercise, I gain a tremendous amount of muscle. I think a lot of it stems from my days as a power lifter after HS. The last time I went on a diet/exercise stint, I gained 15lbs. Even though my weight went up, I have to admit that I was breathing better and my blood pressure was down. Anyone know how to just lose weight and not gain it from diet/exercise?

[perry]

I'm trying to continue losing weight. I had a problem with the muscle that connects my esophagus to my stomach and had a hard time getting food down. I'd stop eating because I'd just get frustrated. As a result of that and other heartburn, I lost around 50 pounds in a period of about 18 months - I was 297 (at 6'4") when I first went to the doc for heartburn problems in April 07, and I know that was down from some unknown peak because I had tried eating better before hauling myself to the doc. The swallowing problems really started around May 08..

Got that fixed up the week before Thanksgiving - weighed in at 243 that morning. I realized that since I could eat normally again that I'd gain the weight right back. I didn't want to do that since I'd spent a bunch of money buying new clothes that fit!

So, the day after Thanksgiving I got myself in to the fitness center here at my apartment complex. It's not too fancy, but it has an exercise bike and a couple treadmills, a couple cable weight machines, and a flat bench & dumbbells. Enough to get me moving around again. It's been a struggle as my metabolism has adjusted to eating normal meals again, but I think I've fought off the weight gain.

For right now, my goal is to get down to 225. I'll keep trying to lose more when I hit that, but that will be the goal for now.

Trying to eat better now. Gotta learn to like veggies and dislike chips.

Won't be posting pictures, but I can use you guys to keep me honest :smile:

[Etoyoc_Rebmos]

I'm in. I lost about 120 pounds and have now gained 30 back. I need to stop and get back on track!

[sol92258]

I was going to bring up this topic later today...
I shed 50+ a couple years ago, and did fairly well keeping it away, however the past year or so has proven to be hectic in many ways, and discipline in some areas has suffered, and have allowed 30 of those to come back and visit.
I'm not in for the competition/money pot/whatever, my concept was one of accountability groups, with healthier life being the reward, as opposed to a monetary sum, however significant/insignificant, since such a reward, as great as it is, is temporary and once it's gone, if your motivation is wrapped up in it, it's gone too.
Not to discourage anyone else, but to let you know what my intentions and reasons are.
Now, prepare to get thy butt kicked....:biggrin:

[DunEdinRanger]

Ok, firstly I think my scale is wacked because it varies so much, but if it is to be believed, it says 196.5 lbs, and I am 5'9", for our European friends that is 89 Kilos and 1.75 meters. For our friends in Britain, that's so many stone, I could be a small boulder.

So, today, 30 slow minutes on the treadmill.

To lose 1 lb a week, you have to eat 3500 calories fewer than you need.

I'm going to increase my walking, run more, and cut the soft drinks & snacks.

Good Luck to everyone!

[Fnord5]

I have been hovering at 220 for the past few years, a jump to 230 for a bit, and my Ideal weight for my height is 200 even. I haven't been that low in about 5 years.

I am 6'4", so 220 isn't bad, and isn't noticeable on me really. I want to be toned though, so I need to drop 20 "vanity" pounds. :blushing:

I would like to participate, but I will abstain from doing so publicly.

Instead I will offer my support, and any tips I can think of.

#1, kill fast food intake. None whatsoever. I dropped 15 pounds in a month just by eliminating fast food. Subway was as unhealthy as I got, and even then, only on road trips.

#2, drink lots of water.

#3, park further away instead of cruising around looking for a closer spot.

#4, Moderation is KEY. This includes fast food, but only after you can prove to yourself that you can give it up entirely. Go 6 months without a Whopper, or Big Mac, and you can reward yourself once in a while.
Even with exercise, you need to do it in moderation. You hop on a bicycle and go for a 30 mile ride right away, and you will be so sore for the next week, you will never want to go and do it again. Start out slowly, a mile, 2 if you are feeling good. Eventually you will work up to 5, then 10, then you will get to the point where you will want to see how far you can go, and before you know it, a 30 mile ride will leave you feeling like Jell-o, but the next day you will be fine. Same goes for lifting weights. Sure I could bench 250, but only once, and it will hurt. Start out slow, get a set of dumbells from wal-mart, and work out at home. I started out with 10 pound weights, seems like nothing, but you have to start slow.

#5, do not expect dramatic, or immediate results. You can take a poo and drop 3 pounds. To lose 3 pounds of body weight takes some work.

#6, have fun with it.

[Terry Awhile]

Just some ideas:

If all the gents involved set personal goals, with a weekly posting in, would that work?

We can post our goals, and, perhaps, after 4-6 months, the top competitors can get something? Even just glory?

We could all post a "reward" we want, and treat ourselves to it, and show it off/gloat?

I am big on ideas, but piss poor on planning....any executives around? Any moderators want to help out?

We could launch the Badger and Blade Gentlemen's Athletic club.

Just some ideas. Me? I am on my way out for a run. I am certain injuries will be involved.:confused:

[ScotchDave]

Injuries don't have to be a part of it. Take it easy for the first five minutes of your run, then stretch gently for a few minutes. Then continue your run.

Make sure you don't get cold while stretching, otherwise you'll increase your chances of getting an injury.

When you're about five minutes from the end of your run do some more stretches. Then take it easy for the last five minutes of your run.

This should make for a good warm up and warm down, you'll have to decide which stretches work for you. I personally find that some hamstring stretches, tricep stretches and quadricep stretches work for me.

[General Burnside]

A few months ago I dropped 20 pounds down to 180/6'. Holiday season has got me back to 200. It can't be mentioned enough; QUIT DRINKING SODA. I started drinking it again and it's like 700 useless calories every day. I'm surprised I'm not more fat. I'm with you guys.

GB

[perry]

If all the gents involved set personal goals, with a weekly posting in, would that work?

We can post our goals, and, perhaps, after 4-6 months, the top competitors can get something? Even just glory?

We could all post a "reward" we want, and treat ourselves to it, and show it off/gloat?

I think you have good ideas. Interested parties sign-up, post what they're at currently and what they hope to get to, and what their reward is. It doesn't have to be just weight - could be getting to being able to run X miles in Y minutes or being able to squad Z pounds. Some sort of health related goal, though I imagine most will be weight loss.

I don't know that we'd want an overall winner.. if someone sticks to their plan for the entire time, then they've done good in my book and are "allowed" to buy themselves the reward they picked out at the beginning. Honor policy strictly enforced!

[sol92258]

Just some ideas:

If all the gents involved set personal goals, with a weekly posting in, would that work?

We can post our goals, and, perhaps, after 4-6 months, the top competitors can get something? Even just glory?

We could all post a "reward" we want, and treat ourselves to it, and show it off/gloat?

I am big on ideas, but piss poor on planning....any executives around? Any moderators want to help out?

We could launch the Badger and Blade Gentlemen's Athletic club.

Just some ideas. Me? I am on my way out for a run. I am certain injuries will be involved.:confused:

this is kind of the idea...weekly updates as to progress (or lack thereof), encouragement for plateaus, accountability for missing a week, etc.. - that I originally had for my this topic...perhaps the Mods could create a "B&B Biggest Loser" Badge or something.
Focus would be on overall health, percentage weight lost, clothes sizes down, etc., not just # pounds lost.

[Terry Awhile]

this is kind of the idea...weekly updates as to progress (or lack thereof), encouragement for plateaus, accountability for missing a week, etc.. - that I originally had for my this topic...perhaps the Mods could create a "B&B Biggest Loser" Badge or something.
Focus would be on overall health, percentage weight lost, clothes sizes down, etc., not just # pounds lost.



I like that a lot.

Let's get some more ideas, and set a date.


me? I just ordered my final wings for I do not know how long....I hate myself.

(more than I hate self-discipline, sobriety, and "calling it an early night"...maybe I am growing up.)

[PKHammer]

I like that a lot.

Let's get some more ideas, and set a date.


me? I just ordered my final wings for I do not know how long....I hate myself.

(more than I hate self-discipline, sobriety, and "calling it an early night"...maybe I am growing up.)

I have one more beer to go in the fridge, then I'm likely done for a while with that. Man I hate saying that. I've got to get back to cutting out the sodas again, had been doing that for a while, but have been backsliding...

I'm all for making this fun, with each of us setting goals (attainable ones hopefully) and seeing some rewards for hitting those things. Jan 1 sounds as good of a day to start as any, opening it up for those specific goals in terms of target weight, exercise goals, etc. I'm going to talk to the SWMBO to see what she will put up as a reward, but knowing our current financial state, it might be a head of lettuce! I'm gunning for a major 3 month goal, as it is my birthday, and might be able to convince her to treat me nice!

[professorchaos]

Lose weight? Absolutely not! Have you any idea how much work went into this body? How much beer, bacon (and other pork pork products!), cheeseburgers, donuts, pizza, ice cream and other delectable morsels I have had to force down my gullet day in and day out? This physique is something you attain over time, not something you seek to loose on a treadmill.

[professorchaos]

A few months ago I dropped 20 pounds down to 180/6'. Holiday season has got me back to 200. It can't be mentioned enough; QUIT DRINKING SODA. I started drinking it again and it's like 700 useless calories every day. I'm surprised I'm not more fat. I'm with you guys.

GB

Don't just stop drinking soda, though that is a big step in the right direction. Stop all intake of high fructose corn syrup. You would be surprised at how much weight you carry around from it.

[-Devil-]

i am all for setting up a 'club' of sorts ... it is much easier with motivation from others ...

i started in jan of last year ... at 281lbs .. had gotten down to 230 in sept ... i am now back up to 253 ... because of the holidays and some family related stress ...

i really want to get it going again .. with eating, exercise and so forth .. i know how to do it, and know i can do it ... but the motivation is the kicker.

i got mine going from cutting out sweat tea and all soda's ... sticking to just water ... or green tea ... and going to 'whole foods' instead of processed stuff ... not eating things with more then 6 ingredients ... and trying to keep the protein / carb / fat content about even on all sides ... while consuming about 2800 cals a day .. and working out for 1hour 3 days a week ... then riding at least 10 miles a week on my bike ...

[smalltownlegend]

I need to lose weight as well so I am in, as well as already on the road. I am 6' 1" and currently weigh 284 lbs that is down from 342 in August. I eliminated fast food and soda. I started eating 5 times a day in small portions. Lots of protein, low carbs. Other than that my lifestyle has not changed much, I really don't exercise, except for walking or biking where I am going.

[-Devil-]

for exercise ... the main thing most people need to do is find an activity that will keep their HR up in the 50-70% range for their age (50 - 70 depending on how out of shape you already are) .. for at least 45 to 60 min every other day (or every day if you can handle it) ...

if it is nothing more then a walk around the yard a few times ... or walking as fast as you can while in stores ... or even getting a Wii .. and Wiifit and some other high movement games ...

actual exercise is not needed for weight loss ... but it does help with muscle toning ...

the main thing is to burn calories and keep the heart in decent shape ...

[DunEdinRanger]

Another half hour on the treadmill today. Not as slow, and not as ponderous as yesterday. I need to get out and do a lot of walking....

[manlymanbeard]

I got weight problems too, but mine is exactly oposite. 62kg/183cm / 137 lbs/6'

i feel your pain.

[Confuzius]

We're doing something similar at work between 3 guys.
Weigh-in each friday, $1.00 in the pot for each pound you gain. If in one week, two guys gain and one guy dosn't he gets what's in the pot.

[Gruder]

Brilliant idea. In. How does this sound for a plan for the B&B Gentlemen's Athletic Club (BBGAC)? Feel free to suggest any changes/additions. Mods, if I'm moving this too far too fast, let me know.

Folks post starting BMIs whenever in 2009 they find this thread. BMI is the standard measure of height proportionate to weight most commonly used by nutritionists, and can be calculated in both pounds/feet and kilos/meters here. (http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm) BMIs may not be back-dated (in other words, pounds/kilos already lost don't count!). As with so many things on B&B, the honor system is key.

When members sign up, they agree to check in at least every two weeks or so to do three quick things:

1) Post a current BMI (a percentage lost could be added, as well).
2) Send an encouraging PM to a member who's posted lately.
3) Send an even more encouraging PM to a member who hasn't posted in the last couple of weeks.

Members could, voluntarily and without necessity, contribute prizes to the cause. Prizes could be contributed at the beginning for overall loss throughout the year, or as we go (e.g. biggest loser in March, April, etc.; incentives for folks who've fallen off the wagon to start back in; encouragement for folks to join the BBGAC later in the year; encouragement of specific activities such as biking, running, etc...). While the prizes are nice, the best encouragement for many will be the flow of PMs, as well as, of course, that pair of pants that's been hanging in the closet for five years that now fits!

I'll offer to start by contributing a Gillette Slim (it somehow seems fitting...) to the cause, which I'll offer to send gratis anywhere on the globe to the regularly-posting member who has showed the greatest percentage drop in BMI from now through the end of March (check-in required between March 22 and 31).

Let the suggestions and/or starting BMI's flow! I'll be away from a computer from 12/31 to 1/5, but will check in upon my return with my own BMI (I, um, anticipate it rising slightly over New Year's :frown:) and a final set of guidelines for the 2009 BBGAC.

[sol92258]

Brilliant idea. In. How does this sound for a plan for the B&B Gentlemen's Athletic Club (BBGAC)? Feel free to suggest any changes/additions. Mods, if I'm moving this too far too fast, let me know.

Folks post starting BMIs whenever in 2009 they find this thread. BMI is the standard measure of height proportionate to weight most commonly used by nutritionists, and can be calculated in both pounds/feet and kilos/meters here. (http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm) BMIs may not be back-dated (in other words, pounds/kilos already lost don't count!). As with so many things on B&B, the honor system is key.

When members sign up, they agree to check in at least every two weeks or so to do three quick things:

1) Post a current BMI (a percentage lost could be added, as well).
2) Send an encouraging PM to a member who's posted lately.
3) Send an even more encouraging PM to a member who hasn't posted in the last couple of weeks.

Members could, voluntarily and without necessity, contribute prizes to the cause. Prizes could be contributed at the beginning for overall loss throughout the year, or as we go (e.g. biggest loser in March, April, etc.; incentives for folks who've fallen off the wagon to start back in; encouragement for folks to join the BBGAC later in the year; encouragement of specific activities such as biking, running, etc...). While the prizes are nice, the best encouragement for many will be the flow of PMs, as well as, of course, that pair of pants that's been hanging in the closet for five years that now fits!

I'll offer to start by contributing a Gillette Slim (it somehow seems fitting...) to the cause, which I'll offer to send gratis anywhere on the globe to the regularly-posting member who has showed the greatest percentage drop in BMI from now through the end of March (check-in required between March 22 and 31).

Let the suggestions and/or starting BMI's flow! I'll be away from a computer from 12/31 to 1/5, but will check in upon my return with my own BMI (I, um, anticipate it rising slightly over New Year's :frown:) and a final set of guidelines for the 2009 BBGAC.

Nice suggestions...regardless of prizes, pride, or whatever, the encouragement and accountability is key, I believe

[Terry Awhile]

Nice suggestions...regardless of prizes, pride, or whatever, the encouragement and accountability is key, I believe



I like it all. I hope to be able to post my whole plan on da foist...

Personally, I want to shed BF (no, not my boyfriend, BODY FAT)

I think, and will post definitely on Jan.1, that I want to lose at least 5 lbs of BF in January. Seven would be great, but hey, I have the whole beeraholic hate my job thing.

I have a BF (Kanita) scale, and will work some rough numbers, and go from there. I also have an idea to keep an online, public journal, and will use the BB GAC as my social bragging place, and to come for my glories. I will post the link, and all are invited to slag me off.

I would also be willing to throw in for prizes?


I think my own prize, if I make my final goal by May-is, is to buy meself a new kayak.

How you like me now?

Also, accountability and the honor system----but you are only beholden to you.

If Obama can find time to pump up, I can too.

[burnwood]

I need to do all that stuff called weight loss as well but like the last few years, I will gladly watch you guys do it.

[sol92258]

I need to do all that stuff called weight loss as well but like the last few years, I will gladly watch you guys do it.
no you won't, you'll join us, just 4 pounds a month, that's 1 pound a week, you can do it

[Siv]

I'm in.

I'm 33 years old, 5'8", 227lbs and BMI 34.5.

If I get to 160lbs I'm buying myself a Porsche (I've been obese for 10 years so this isn't a realistic goal).

I think some encouragement and also recognition for those who do well is founded. How about every 6 months we get a list of people who are in and each contributes $5 to the kitty. At the end of 6 months the biggest BMI reduction gets to buy something with the kitty (and bragging rights) and we start again. This would cost each of the participants $5 every 6 months. Anyone can join at any time but it's $5 when you do and it's the BMI reduction from the date you join to the end of the current session (e.g. if we start 1st Jan, there will be a weigh-in on 1st July and the clock starts again). Silly idea? Too complicated? Or Doable?

[burnwood]

no you won't, you'll join us, just 4 pounds a month, that's 1 pound a week, you can do it

I wish it were that easy for me Bama. I eat like crap, I dont exercise. Not a good plan for success.

[BroJohn]

Beaker --

If I can do it, you can do it. Just give up the cookies, sodas, and junk. Reduce portions. The weight will drop.

If you join us, I'll get rid of the 'YMMV' addition to my avatar...

-- John Gehman

[DunEdinRanger]

We're doing something similar at work between 3 guys.
Weigh-in each friday, $1.00 in the pot for each pound you gain. If in one week, two guys gain and one guy dosn't he gets what's in the pot.


Did that in college with a friend when I was about 20-30 lbs lighter. I didn't do a thing. He gained weight cause he spent two weeks in Pennsylvania with his parents and "all there was to do was eat, sleep, and watch the grass grow." :biggrin:


I'm in.

I'm 33 years old, 5'8", 227lbs and BMI 34.5.

If I get to 160lbs I'm buying myself a Porsche (I've been obese for 10 years so this isn't a realistic goal).

I think some encouragement and also recognition for those who do well is founded. How about every 6 months we get a list of people who are in and each contributes $5 to the kitty. At the end of 6 months the biggest BMI reduction gets to buy something with the kitty (and bragging rights) and we start again. This would cost each of the participants $5 every 6 months. Anyone can join at any time but it's $5 when you do and it's the BMI reduction from the date you join to the end of the current session (e.g. if we start 1st Jan, there will be a weigh-in on 1st July and the clock starts again). Silly idea? Too complicated? Or Doable?

If you knew how cheap I was, you'd know I'd starve myself to get at that kitty. :lol:

[sol92258]

I wish it were that easy for me Bama. I eat like crap, I dont exercise. Not a good plan for success.
it's not easy...but it is attainable
you CAN do it
heck, I dropped 18 lbs four years ago just cutting sodas, nothing else. The math is easy, but if you stay with us you'll be very highly likely to do something better. Like I said, 1 pound a week, start there for a month, that's 1750 calories a week. take your lunch, half it, eat the first half at normal time, then the second half at quitting time, you'll naturally eat less at supper.
I'm here for you, I can be your accountability partner...help me out, bro

[burnwood]

Beaker --

If I can do it, you can do it. Just give up the cookies, sodas, and junk. Reduce portions. The weight will drop.

If you join us, I'll get rid of the 'YMMV' addition to my avatar...

-- John Gehman

Oh John, you rascal. I eat good 50% of the time. It is the other half that suffers. All I should do is at least walk a bit each day. But yet I sit. The will is nowhere to be found. Getting rid of y**v is a good start though.

[burnwood]

1 guy putting y**v in his avatar
1 guy kicking my butt in his avatar

and these are the guys pushing me.


I call these guys friends.

[Joe Frances]

I could use to lose about 15 lbs, not to succumb to a ad-agency driven idealized male image, although that would be nice, but just to feel better, and fit into my darned clothes better.

[sol92258]

1 guy putting y**v in his avatar
1 guy kicking my butt in his avatar

and these are the guys pushing me.


I call these guys friends.
:thumbup:

[DunEdinRanger]

1 guy putting y**v in his avatar
1 guy kicking my butt in his avatar

and these are the guys pushing me.


I call these guys friends.

Let me try to help. With the DePlumpification, will also come loss of those extra chins. Not only will shaving be easier, but those nice expensive creams will last longer, since there is less chin to cover. :biggrin::lol:

[burnwood]

Let me try to help. With the DePlumpification, will also come loss of those extra chins. Not only will shaving be easier, but those nice expensive creams will last longer, since there is less chin to cover. :biggrin::lol:

its like you know me Lou.

[DunEdinRanger]

its like you know me Lou.

:lol: Thanks, I think... May I add, dark colors normally have a slimming effect on people.





Normally. :lol:

[burnwood]

:lol: Thanks, I think... May I add, dark colors normally have a slimming effect on people.





Normally. :lol:

work requires a white shirt. they hate me.

[Gruder]

1 guy putting y**v in his avatar
1 guy kicking my butt in his avatar

and these are the guys pushing me.


I call these guys friends.

You're in. I can tell. (That, and we're all hounding you by PM if you don't post a bmi by next week...)


Let me try to help. With the DePlumpification, will also come loss of those extra chins. Not only will shaving be easier, but those nice expensive creams will last longer, since there is less chin to cover. :biggrin::lol:

Beautiful!

[DunEdinRanger]

I will post my BMI number.

The conversion factor, if you want to do the math yourselves is 703.08 -

(Weight / Lbs / Lbs) times 703.08 = BMI

196.5/69/69 = 29.02

If I can get down to 22.44 it will be very good.

[perry]

My input - I think a less formal approach would be best. Ease the requirements of entry. Requiring money doesn't sound like a good idea. Let each person choose their own goal and personal reward for the quarter. We complicate things too much and people will be less likely to join in.

[Siv]

My input - I think a less formal approach would be best. Ease the requirements of entry. Requiring money doesn't sound like a good idea. Let each person choose their own goal and personal reward for the quarter. We complicate things too much and people will be less likely to join in.

You're right Perry. Probably best to keep it simple...

[Sullybob]

I'm in as far as encouraging each other goes and posting to this or another thread, heck I'll post my BMI too. But having a low BMI isn't my goal. I personally hate the BMI rating. When I was very fit, resting pulse under 50 BPM, my BMI was 28.1 nearly obese.
Call me cheap but I don't want to put any money in the pot.
How about body fat? My home scale has a body fat function on it. I know that it isn't totally accurate but it gives me a good idea of where I stand. That and my waist size.
My goal is weight reduction and an increase in fitness.
I'm currently 5'8" and 215 LBS. The goal is to be down to 190 by July 1st. Thats a weight loss of roughly 4 pounds per month. For the fitness goal, I would really like to be able to run 5 miles in 40 minutes or less and 3 miles in under 22:30.

I work tomorrow so I'll post my info now:

Height 5 feet 8 inches
Weight 215 LBS
Body fat 32.5%
BMI 33.1 obese

Good luck guys!

[PKHammer]

I'll post goals and numbers tomorrow (or later today when I have a bit of time), but I started on my exercise component today (getting a head start!). Did 20 minutes of walking/jogging and rewarded myself with using my new B&BE! Oh to treat myself like that every time...

[Confuzius]

If anyone's interested here's the google spread sheet that I put together for the guys at work:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pZuCmGsKvqGya0Ayp5jXdNw
It's set up for 3 people but feel free to play around, you can also download it as excel or open office spreadsheet if you want.

[Sullybob]

If anyone's interested here's the google spread sheet that I put together for the guys at work:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pZuCmGsKvqGya0Ayp5jXdNw
It's set up for 3 people but feel free to play around, you can also download it as excel or open office spreadsheet if you want.

Thanks. I down loaded it.

[john.crissman]

Ok, I'm in too! With a BMI of 27.5, I really have some work to do.

I should really lose about 15 lbs to get to the top of my BMI class.

[yardpup01]

Ok official initial weigh-in:

Height: 6 feet
Weight: 218 lbs
BMI: 29.6 (overweight)
Goal: 190 lbs

Secondary goal: waist < 38 inches

[DunEdinRanger]

Ok, I'm in too! With a BMI of 27.5, I really have some work to do.

I should really lose about 15 lbs to get to the top of my BMI class.

John,

You're not overweight, you're undertall. I figure I should be about 6'4" :biggrin:

[DunEdinRanger]

1. Excess lather will drop on the sink and/or counter instead of the ole gut.

2. You can shower, towel off and your face won't be air dried by the time you're done.

3. Fewer Chins = Less Shaving Cream Used

4. Coffee Stains on shirts won't be described as being "Below the horizon."

5. That sharp pain you get when you sit down, because the fat is on the cell phone will not be there anymore.

Brought to you by the man whose doctor had to check the scale and then said, "You carry your fat well."

"Of course", I said, "I have good fattitude!" :biggrin:

[miza_b]

1. Excess lather will drop on the sink and/or counter instead of the ole gut.

2. You can shower, towel off and your face won't be air dried by the time you're done.

3. Fewer Chins = Less Shaving Cream Used

4. Coffee Stains on shirts won't be described as being "Below the horizon."

5. That sharp pain you get when you sit down, because the fat is on the cell phone will not be there anymore.

Brought to you by the man whose doctor had to check the scale and then said, "You carry your fat well."

"Of course", I said, "I have good fattitude!" :biggrin:

Then what am I going to use to shave my fat gut. :lol:

This has been brought to you by the man who can't be weighed at his doctor's office anymore because the scale doesn't go that high.

I want to lose weight because I have a full wardrobe of nice clothes that no longer fits my fat ass. That, and my dress shirts and suits almost don't fit me anymore. I know I'm going to pop a button any day now.

[perry]

I started my spreadsheet this morning.

I'm 6'4" and my short term goal, for our first session, is to get under 240. When I feel that I'm comfortably under 240, I'll buy myself a D.R. Harris soap :w00t: Unless I run out of blades, I'm not buying any other shaving related stuff. I guess that Thursday mornings will become my "official" weigh-in time.



Date Weight
01/01/09 - 254


Longer term goal is to get around 210. Remember, in April 07, I was around 300 and my current weight is due to GI problems. Those are mostly fixed, so from here on out, it's just me watching what I eat and exercising.

miza, join in!

[DunEdinRanger]

http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/health/2009/01/01/2009-01-01_city_guy_says_he_dodged_death_by_losing_.html


http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/01/01/amd_suncar-jeans.jpg


Surely we can lose a small fraction of that!

[PKHammer]

New Years Day measurements (didn't post as I was with the fam):

5'9"
190 (using my cheap scale at home)
BMI 28.1

My goal is to be down to 170, which still leaves me overweight according to that silly BMI chart.

I'm really not trying to do anything extreme, simply cutting out soda and other sugary drinks (thankfully I drink my coffee black), dropping portions and fatty snacks, driving past fast food places, and adding exercise to my life.

I'm working towards running a 5k in March, so long as I can find one that works with my schedule.

Since my birthday is at the end of March, I'm going to reward myself if I have made significant progress before then. I am leaning towards either a high end soap or a fountain pen (both are on my wishlist).

[Siv]

I've managed to put on 2 pounds over the last two days. Too much beer and champagne.

I for one find that weighing myself everyday keeps my focus. If I don't for a few days then I forget about the weightloss and over indulge and end up putting on loads...

Now I need to dust off my bike and get riding.

[burnwood]

Okay, I believe I am about 250. Lets use that for BMI. Have BMI calc on G1 phone...
36.92 superobese.
I am not feeling that fat though need to lose weight. Go look at me in the burnwood/soapbox superdawg thread.

[burnwood]

I think BMI is a little antiquated. My body build is not suitable for 168, which is what BMI thinks I should way. I look skinny at 200 pounds.

[DunEdinRanger]

Well, I got fed up with my scale this morning. It read a higher weight after exercising and *ahem* certain other activities that always result in a weight loss.

So armed with discounts, I snagged a cheap electronic scale that also does body fat monitoring.

Result - Not Good!:mad3:

Weight 211.8
BF 34.7%
BMI 31.3

At least it is consistent... :mad:

That means I am carrying 75 lbs of fat.

FAT is the enemy.

[perry]

FAT is the enemy.

And it's time to lose that enemy! What are you signing up for? How will you reward yourself?

[DunEdinRanger]

And it's time to lose that enemy! What are you signing up for? How will you reward yourself?

153 lbs is the goal.

Well, I saw the Holy Grail this afternoon. Bruichladdich PC6, the world's most heavily peated Scotch Whisky. I even had the opportunity to hold the tin.
At $125, I may get that for myself if I lose the weight.

Except for a few items - and John Crissman knows what I'm talking about, there will be NO shaving purchases until I get the goal weight.

[Doug]

Height: 5'6"
Weight: 210 lbs
BMI: 33.9

I’ve really let myself go since last spring. I must lose weight in order to pass the Navy’s bi-annual physical health assessment in March. Right now my waist is about 40" and I need to get down to a 37" to pass. That means that I need to lose at least 20 pounds, which is about two pounds a week. I quit smoking five years ago and gained thirty pounds, but I have a much easier time running now. I was down to about 192 but I recently quit drinking and developed an insatiable sweet tooth that has made my weight balloon to where it is now. I’m given time and facilities so there is no excuse, and I need to set a better example for the junior personnel that I lead.
Wish me luck.
Doug

[SepticTank]

Well Gents - I've been and ordered a cycle today (the whole story below) with the intention of joining you all, however as I've done this before, I'll not be using any weighing, only my belt size.

Currently it's 44", my initial aim is to get to 38".

So this morning with SWMBO's endorsement ringing in my ears, I set off to the "local" (15mi/25km) bike shop where the largest blob of lard on the planet was in control - his thighs were about the size of me so he could have been on a bike and you'd not know... apparently he had no bikes suitable for me until Jan 20th, so I headed off to Edinburgh (on the flip of a coin - could have gone to Newcastle both are about 60mi/100km away) and entered the fourth circle of hell (aka Edinburgh Bicycle Co-Operative) whose sale had just started and joined a 350-man scrum of thin men clad in lycra (I won't be cladding myself in shorts or lycra any time soon, the world isn't ready for that :smile:).

They have 1400 bikes in store - is there one I can ride off on today? - is there, my foot! (There is if I go on Monday - which is strange). So the chap comes up with a bizarre credit crunch mode offer - if I want a bike, I can have it 15&#37; off the sale price (already 20% off the regular price, and 2% off for VAT fiasco) or take 20% in accessories (which is handy because I needed a heap of accessories - pump, helmet, speedo, lights etc) and they'll deliver it free on Tuesday from their warehouse (which is helpfully closed at a weekend). I chose not to go for the "skateboard-style pisspot helmet" (that's what it said on the sign in store) which looks like something that might be worn when annexing the Sudetenland...

So all going well, I should be starting on Tuesday evening (initial plan is to take a cycle ride around the local country park instead of sitting and eating lunch)

[Bill Smith]

I'm back on board with the weight loss. I am 5'10" and back around 2000 I wieghed in around 238 pounds, got smart and joined the local Y and by 2002 I was down to 198 pounds hitting a low of 175 in 2004.

When my dad died in 2005 threw things off, got lazy not so much not going to the gym ( which I do out of habit) but not doing enough cardio along with some emotional/stress snacking I ballooned back up to about 215 pounds. I re-introduced more cardio into the plan and in switched to a circuit type workout a few months ago.

My problem is despite the fact I don't eat processed food, trans fats, high sodium, have maybe two pints of beer or glasses of wine per month and a fervent non smoker, just looking at a chocolate cake puts 15lbs on.

My game plan is to go from from 215 down to 170, I was happy with that weight, liked how I felt and how I looked.

I now have a routine for the heavy day: roughly 30 min of cardio on an ellipical cross trainer and 45 min of "circuits" weight expercises with two minute sprints on the treadmill and I do this three days a week. On the other two days (or when I have a schedule crunch) I do a light work out where the weights and treadmill are cut back but I am spending more time on the elliptical machine like say 40-45 min.

[Sullybob]

Bill,
I feel your pain. I have a major sweet tooth.

[miza_b]

I'm going to officially lay everything out.

Height: 6ft 5in
Weight: 365lbs
BMI: 43.3

My short-term goal is to lose 65lbs to get back down to 300lbs. My long-term goal is to get down to 220lbs. I would also like to compete in a marathon eventually.

My reward is going to be a new bicycle. I really want a Trek 7.3 FX, but I don't know how money will be, so I might have to settle for a new razor or brush.

SWMBO and I loaded up the kidlet in his new wagon and went over to the gym. Thankfully, our apartment community has a kid's room adjacent to the gym with a big glass window so we could see him. I did one mile on the treadmill. I tried running right of the bat, but the treadmill didn't like that and felt like it was going to break. I was able to get up to a little jog a couple of times.

[crowdog]

Official:

6' 5"
245 lbs (bathroom scale)
29.0 BMI
40 in Waist

I have a more official body fat and metabolism done, but can't find the figures. If I do, I will post them. I am not a big fan of the BMI as well, but it is a measure.

My goal is to be at 225, while building my upper body, and getting my waist size down to 38 at least and more like 36.

My reward, well, I would like a badger brush. If I hit everything, I may spring for another watch as well.

Here is to everyone...good luck

Marty

[TstebinsB]

I wish everyone nothing but success. :001_smile

[Bill Smith]

One thing we should look at is the incremental cardio, instead of the five minute car drive to do an errand we should walk there and back as an example.

[Siv]

One thing we should look at is the incremental cardio, instead of the five minute car drive to do an errand we should walk there and back as an example.

That's a good one actually. If you do this when going to the grocery store you get exercise on the way and back AND you don't overbuy food because you can only buy what you can carry. Then if you need to go back to get more the next day, it's more exercise!

Some simple things that add up to a lot over time:
- Park at the end of the mall/office/store carpark and walk to the entrance instead of circling for 20 minutes trying to find a spot right next to the door
- Pay the cashier instead of paying at the pump for gas.
- Walk up or down one of two flights of stairs in the office instead of taking the lift. For more than 2 flights, walk down them if up is too much.

[Bill Smith]

Taking the cue from Michael Pollan (Michael J. Fox's brother in law) shop around the outside of the Supermarket where all the fresh stuff is. He wrote a couple of good books on the food industry and they are eye openers, the one on top of my head is the Omnivore's Dillemma.

I think the other thing is watch out for the corn syrup and sodium content in food. If you are going to have a treat like an icecream go for the boutique organic stuff and only get a cone, not the 2 gal tub worth.

[Bill Smith]

I spent 35 min on the elliptical machine and did a half hour circuit hitting back, shoulders, chest and arms. I feel great.

[DunEdinRanger]

35 minutes on the ole dreadmill today.

Also there is an interesting article in one of the Sunday Paper mags about health foods and things to eat/avoid.

[DunEdinRanger]

Another 35 minutes on the dreadmill today, going a whole whopping 100 meters in the same time as yesterday. I also got in two 0.8 mile walks today.

As Scooter says, "We have to deplumpify you before the Jungle Lizards get you!" Bonus points if you can identify the cartoon that came from.

[PKHammer]

Been cutting back on portions, have not had any sodas yet in the new year, or fast food! Also been getting off my butt and have run just over a mile a couple of days so far in 2009. Good stuff.

[Gruder]

Great suggestions for the B&B Gentlemen's Athletic Club (BBGAC) everyone, and thanks to all who've already posted BMIs, etc. The "keep it simple" approach is great. Let's simply continue what we've been doing, and agree to encourage each other along the way.

For folks with weight loss/fitness goals anytime in 2009, feel free to seek encouragement and motivation by posting BMI/weight/beltsize, etc. as you'd like in this thread (a good BMI calculator is here (http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm)). Fitness goals and tips are welcomed, as well! If you get a chance, sending an encouraging PM to someone on the thread every now and again would be quite in keeping with the gentlemanly qualities of B&B.

To help encourage folks, I'll keep my promise to gift a Gillette Slim (it somehow seems fitting...) to the regularly-posting member who has showed the greatest percentage drop in BMI from now through the end of March (check-in required between March 22 and 31).

My info: BMI 35.2. Ideally, I'd like to get this down below 30 this year. This would require a 40 pound weight drop, which is quite doable during a year at a healthy pace. I've done the weight loss starvation yo-yo thing before, and have realized firsthand that the key is prolonged habit change, not temporary starvation. I've actually started playing with Wii Fit, which, if nothing else at the moment, provides motivation to get the heart rate up a bit each day.

Your turn! Post your info/goals and be sure to keep us updated!

[gatto]

This is a great thread and I hope everybody reaches their goals!

I'm not posting #s because I'm just crazy like that but my goal for this semester (between now and the middle of may) is to lose 20 lbs. I've been jogging, I decided to get a nike + sport kit which is pretty cool. It tracks all of my runs and shows me how I'm doing using my ipod. If I reach my goal or close to it and can maintain the weight loss through the summer I'm getting myself some custom nike running shoes in August :biggrin:

edit: I'll toss in a long term goal too. I want my 26 inch waist back

[SepticTank]

So all going well, I should be starting on Tuesday evening

Well it's Tuesday evening, the bike is assembled and I took it on a very brief test run around the block (which is on a slope, love those 24 gears - even if bottom does mean you have to pedal at 3500 rpm to go 0.3mph) despite the subzero temperature, hail & snow falling and the dark. Only did 1.5km, but it was good to be back in the saddle after a 17 year hiatus. Tomorrow I shall head for the country park!

[Confuzius]

Biking is a great low-impact way to shed some pounds (or kilos ;) )
I've postponed my official start and weigh-in untill this Friday, but I'll keep you posted.

[SepticTank]

Biking is a great low-impact way to shed some pounds (or kilos ;))

The only fear I have is that my rugby player's thighs will become even more treetrunk-like :rolleyes:

[Gruder]

The only fear I have is that my rugby player's thighs will become even more treetrunk-like :rolleyes:

Problem solved!
http://www.motorera.com/dictionary/pics/h/handcycle.jpg

Congrats on the test run!

[DunEdinRanger]

Well it's Tuesday evening, the bike is assembled and I took it on a very brief test run around the block (which is on a slope, love those 24 gears - even if bottom does mean you have to pedal at 3500 rpm to go 0.3mph) despite the subzero temperature, hail & snow falling and the dark. Only did 1.5km, but it was good to be back in the saddle after a 17 year hiatus. Tomorrow I shall head for the country park!

Congrats! You ever think about biking around Loch Ness?

[johnniegold]

Chad has requested that this thread become a sticky and it has been done. So here is the new B&B Gentleman's Athletic Club sticky. Best of luck to everyone. :thumbup1:

[sol92258]

I was wondering what happened, I saw the thread with this title, tried to post in it, and was told I didn't have access...it disappeared
but now the best thing has been done..kudos!
I will post tomorrow my starting point, been sidetracked teh past two days and forgot, but have already been getting back on my plan that I've already had success with:
5-6 smaller meals, 4-500 calories per meal, average
got my sandbag ready, and hung the ole punching bag back up
dug out my jumprope, and checked the batteries in my gymboss...ready to go!

[perry]

Chad has requested that this thread become a sticky and it has been done. So here is the new B&B Gentleman's Athletic Club sticky. Best of luck to everyone. :thumbup1:

Thanks for being an Athletic [Club] Supporter! :lol:

[big1096]

I have been mired in a battle of the bulge for years. I am 5' 10", and at my worst I was 290 lbs. I beat that down to 225 about 3 years ago, and was in top condition. Subsequently, my life got turned a bit upside down, and I fell off the wagon. I ballooned back up to 275. I am currently fighting back, and have gotten back down to 245. I hope to be down to 225, and size 36 pants, by the early summer.

I have a problem with the whole BMI thing though. At my last physical, I was measured by the physician and he advised me that, due to my build, I should weigh no less than 200 lbs. The BMI calculator still puts me into the "Obese" category. To be the proper weight I would need to drop down to 170. I weighed more than that by the middle of high school! :lol: I think I'm going to follow the doctor's recommendation...

[SepticTank]

Congrats! You ever think about biking around Loch Ness?

It's hard work looking at a map of Loch Ness. I actively avoid driving that bit of the A82, no way I'm taking the bike there :001_smile anyway - that's more than half a country away from me. I need to get fit first!

Wait! You're after first dibs on my shaving gear when I get nailed by an 18-wheeler :mad3::lol:

Today - 24' rewarded me with 3.85km of subzero temperatures in mud, ice, ice-covered mud and mud-covered ice. "Interesting" in places may have to rethink the route I take (encountered a mud slope that was hard work to get up - took 4 attempts to walk up it without the bike to pick out the best way up).

Edit: I'm recording my activity at www.everydaycycling.com - not perfect but I use so many computers I can guarantee I'd not be at the right one to record today's activity :smile: - there are options to record swimming, walking & running too and for GB'ers an opportunity for some cheap public liability insurance for when you mow down a pensioner in error.

[SepticTank]

I think BMI is a little antiquated. My body build is not suitable for 168, which is what BMI thinks I should way. I look skinny at 200 pounds.

I have to say I agree with you - I don't hold with the big-boned/small-boned thing either particularly. But if my shoulders are wider (not in circumference, just straight width) than someone else of the same height, I'll look like a famine victim in comparison for the same BMI.

It's for this reason that I don't involve weighing in my regime - I can see the change in my belt setting, I can feel the difference in the fit of my clothes etc.

[ECOSSE]

Hey, just found this thread, great stuff! My BMI is 25.8, I'm 5'10 and 180lbs.

This will be tough as the wife is preggo and usually now she can't finish her meals so I'll finish it for her.:tongue_sm

But as far as exercising I have my road bike on a trainer and follow videos from here http://www.spinervals.com/ there is a great amount of diversity in the videos. I would rather ride outside, but with the sub freezing weather and such, I'd rather stay in.

My goal is to be at 160lbs by August, when the baby is due.

[ECOSSE]

Well it's Tuesday evening, the bike is assembled and I took it on a very brief test run around the block (which is on a slope, love those 24 gears - even if bottom does mean you have to pedal at 3500 rpm to go 0.3mph) despite the subzero temperature, hail & snow falling and the dark. Only did 1.5km, but it was good to be back in the saddle after a 17 year hiatus. Tomorrow I shall head for the country park!

So what bike did you get?

[SepticTank]

So what bike did you get?

One of the Edinburgh Bike Co-Op's own brand Cuillin Sport jobs - main thing - it has wheels & pedals and even in my size only weighs 14.5kg :smile:

[ECOSSE]

One of the Edinburgh Bike Co-Op's own brand Cuillin Sport jobs - main thing - it has wheels & pedals and even in my size only weighs 14.5kg :smile:

Excellent! That steed should serve you well!

[masonjarjar]

"You may delay, but time will not." -- Benjamin Franklin

The B&B Gentleman's Athletic Club is a place for members to discuss fitness and weight loss goals in the encouraging and supportive environment that is B&B.



This morning I'm 254 (I'm 5'6"). My goal is to lose 1 pound a week. That would put me at about 200 for the end of the year. So far since Christmas I've lost 4 pounds.

I'm going to post starting/current/goal weights.

258/254/200
(my BMI is right around 40)

My goal for this month is to start using our treadmill 4 times a week and find 3 times a week to get to the gym.

but I need me some walkin/exercizin' shoes first! :eek:

[yardpup01]

One week update:

Height: 6'
Weight: 218 lb
Waist: 43.5 in
Weight loss since last update: 0 lb
Total weight lost: 0 lb
Inches dropped since last update: N/A
Total inches dropped: N/A
Weight goal: 190 lb
Waist goal: 38 in

I decided to add a waist measurement in since weight isn't always accurate(especially if your building muscle). Didn't lose anything, didn't gain anything, can't complain. Keep the faith everybody.

[Gruder]

Thanks for being an Athletic [Club] Supporter! :lol:

:lol::lol::lol:


I have a problem with the whole BMI thing though. At my last physical, I was measured by the physician and he advised me that, due to my build, I should weigh no less than 200 lbs. The BMI calculator still puts me into the "Obese" category. To be the proper weight I would need to drop down to 170. I weighed more than that by the middle of high school! :lol: I think I'm going to follow the doctor's recommendation...

Good call. It should probably be pointed out that nothing in this thread is intended to counter the advice of your own physician, who should be consulted before starting any exercise program. I suggested BMI simply as it allows folks to put numbers in the thread without taking the sometimes trepidatious step of posting an actual weight. Everyone is free to post whatever makes them most comfortable -- weight, belt size, whether the floor still creaks when you step on it in that one spot -- whatever! :smile:

Welcome to all the new folks -- good luck!

[sol92258]

alright, here we go.
I stepped on the scale (first time since November! :eek:), back up to 294!
UGGGHH!!
scale must be wrong, tried again...292 :confused:
all subsequent tries resulted in 292, so I guess I'll go with that.
that's +15 since September, crap I hate that...weird thing is, I didn't eat much more during the holidays (exc. desserts :rolleyes:)
haven't done any other measuring yet, but right now 44 jeans are slightly loose, so I'll go with it for now, until I can justly measure later
I'll also add my distrust of the height/weight chart, and slightly less distrust of BMI, both tell me to shoot for around 180 on the high end!
bull crud-o!

Height: 6'2"
Weight: 292 lb
Waist: 44 in
Weight loss since last update: 0 lb
Total weight lost: 0 lb
Inches dropped since last update: N/A
Total inches dropped: N/A
Weight goal: 245 lb
Waist goal: 38 in

[waitasecun]

sounds like a great idea....we can share methods of how we lost the weight and what did or didn't work for us and take pictures to track our status and progress....GREAT IDEA!!!

Height: 6'3"
Weight: 205 lb
Waist: 34 in
Weight loss since last update: 0 lb
Total weight lost: 0 lb
Inches dropped since last update: N/A
Total inches dropped: N/A
Weight goal: 225 lb (muscle not fat)
Waist goal: 30 or 32 inches

[gatto]

noooo ...office doughnuts :frown: I caved

[sol92258]

noooo ...office doughnuts :frown: I caved
it's okay, it's your last day there (for now anyway)
see, further temptation gone!
(until dorm life.....:eek:)

so far today...
Breakfast:
2 Eggo whole wheat waffles
2 tablespoons peanut butter
1 tablespoon fig preserves
Mastication ensued
Snack:
Quaker True Delights dark chocolate raspberry almond granola bar

[SepticTank]

Excellent! That steed should serve you well!

I've already discovered how much more effective the disc brake is than the grip of the rear tyre on icy mud on a 1 in 4 downslope :biggrin: That would have been a brown trouser moment if they weren't already covered in mud :lol:

[gatto]

it's okay, it's your last day there (for now anyway)
see, further temptation gone!
(until dorm life.....:eek:)

so far today...
Breakfast:
2 Eggo whole wheat waffles
2 tablespoons peanut butter
1 tablespoon fig preserves
Mastication ensued
Snack:
Quaker True Delights dark chocolate raspberry almond granola bar

Dorm life shouldn't be as bad, when I'm not living at home I forget to eat a lot because I'm so busy, and my new nike sport kit came so it's time to try it out

[perry]

noooo ...office doughnuts :frown: I caved

With some of the donuts that have been brought in to our office, I'm not sure I could resist. Haven't had any in a while, luckily. I did manage to avoid a free cookie at lunch today. "That's bad for me!"

I was a big potato chip eater.. Lots of sandwiches, so lots of chips. Decided to stop buying chips, so less sandwiches, so trying to find other things to eat has been, well, different. My coworkers have noticed me eating more salads at lunch.. "They're good for me!"

[sol92258]

....
I was a big potato chip eater.. ..
that's a big step right there - cut out chips, and fries - if not totally, then drastically reduce the amount, like once a week on a cheat day
a bit cheaper at fast food places to just order the burger and a drink, too, and if you really want to extreme it, only eat half the bun...no, I'm not a low-carb fanatic, like the KFC commercial a few years ago said, "the only carb that matters is under my hood", is now my slogan :biggrin:

[Sullybob]

Its official. I absolutely hate the tear down or break down phase of exercising. I have 6 running sessions under my belt now and todays run was the worst feeling. From past experience I know that in about another week to a week and a half the running will start feeling much better. Every time I start exercising I always kick myself for stopping the previous exercise regimen.

On a positive note. I have not had a single French fry at work. We have a lemon aioli that is just wonderful, and it is very tempting to help myself to just one fry and some aioli. That stuff is like crack though, once I start its tough to stop.

I'll post my weight tomorrow. Probably after work. I like to weigh myself during the same time each week.

[gatto]

Instead of posting my weight how about I just post it as +whatever I want to lose. So right now it would be +20, I can live with that. I am loving my new nike sport gear. If anyone has a nano you should definitely pick one up. I paid $30 for mine and I don't even use nike shoes with it. It says you are suppose to but I just slid the sensor into my shoe between my sock and the tongue and it calibrated and worked just fine.

I like how I can base my workouts on calories, so I can tell my ipod I want to have a 300 calorie workout and instead of updating time or distance it tells me how I'm doing calorie wise which is really what is important anyway. I did a quick little 17 minute 150 calorie jog today, I've slowed down a bit since last time I was working out a lot. In april I was doing 30 minute 320 calorie 2.5 mile jogs. Right now I'm at about an 18 minute mile .

I've been focusing on eating slower and thinking before I eat. I use to be the clean plate type but lately I've just tried to slow down. I've also tried to start my meals with less on my plate and if I finish it and I'm still hungry I can take a little more. So far I haven't been hungry after finishing and I haven't cleaned my plate, I also haven't had that way too full feeling in about a week which is nice.

[ECOSSE]

I've already discovered how much more effective the disc brake is than the grip of the rear tyre on icy mud on a 1 in 4 downslope :biggrin: That would have been a brown trouser moment if they weren't already covered in mud :lol:

A mtn. bike eh? Nice, I just had my old banger of a frame repainted. Its still sitting in the house waiting for me to add the parts. Never had disc brakes before though. Maybe next year I'll spring for those......or a new bike.



Today I was already for a basic session of 45 minutes of 'base' miles but 5 minutes into it a customer called and had to talk for about 15min, threw me right off and wasn't in the mood for riding for 20min.

[ECOSSE]

that's a big step right there - cut out chips, and fries - if not totally, then drastically reduce the amount, like once a week on a cheat day
a bit cheaper at fast food places to just order the burger and a drink, too, and if you really want to extreme it, only eat half the bun...no, I'm not a low-carb fanatic, like the KFC commercial a few years ago said, "the only carb that matters is under my hood", is now my slogan :biggrin:

A good trick is if you want to 'cheat' and have a buger and fries, go for the kids meal. Then use the rest of the day to pig out on 'not so bad stuff' like cereals, granola, etc.

[sol92258]

A good trick is if you want to 'cheat' and have a buger and fries, go for the kids meal. Then use the rest of the day to pig out on 'not so bad stuff' like cereals, granola, etc.
true, but then just cutting that crap out is really the best solution...if you want fries, get a potato and make real ones, that way you're getting straight up tater and no other crud, plus you burn a few extra calories (not significant in itself, but every little bit helps) plus it tests you're true desire for fries!

I may have to post a little granola recipe I came up with last year...
and a couple of my favorite smoothie recipes

[Terry Awhile]

Man, I dropped every ball.

I am in the middle of studying for a licensing exam, and, suprisingly, have kept myself offline...I owe everyone some goals, some measurements and some wild promises.

Thanks for making this a sticky....I just decided that, in addition to a no boose challenge....I just took a four month no wings challenge bet and a fries free 2009 challenge.

And you know what?

I actually feel relieved.

I also just had an awesome proraso expierence with a near deadly feather blade.

I had no idea.

[perry]

Date Weight
01/01/09 - 254
01/08/09 - 254


Exercised every day, ate better than ever and lost a grand total of 0 pounds. Shoulda weighed myself before breakfast so I would not have had the weight of the bagel in my belly! :wink:

[Sullybob]

Weight 212
Body Fat 32%

[SepticTank]

Today - 24' rewarded me with 3.85km of subzero temperatures in mud, ice, ice-covered mud and mud-covered ice.

23 minutes today and I covered 4.54km. Mud, ice, ice-covered mud and mud-covered ice still very much in evidence along with "skitey bits" (http://www.bbcnewsscotland.com/knowledgebase/view/319/inweatherbobjohnsonourlocalweathermanfornortheastn ewsisfrmscotlandbtsmtimeshesaystherei.html) (those of a confused persuasion may click to find out all about skitey bits, it really isn't as exciting as it might sound)

[Gruder]

Exercised every day, ate better than ever and lost a grand total of 0 pounds. Shoulda weighed myself before breakfast so I would not have had the weight of the bagel in my belly! :wink:

Stick with it perry -- it's a marathon, not a sprint! I know what you mean, though -- I was disappointed when the scale showed a slight increase from Tuesday to Wednesday. I blame a post-lunch weighing time, as well. I'm a bit sore today from exercise, though -- I'll take that as a positive sign.

[Bill Smith]

I found I am feeling slighty trimmer with the extra cardio I started just before Christmas, I think that has done the trick. Now the hard part keep it up along with the weight training portion.

[sol92258]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/umedia/20090109/cp.f43a9cfc815502c6e9ff85f083083696.gif

[SepticTank]

23 minutes today and I covered 4.54km....

5.69km in 26 minutes today - hit 39.6km/h at one point (before I remembered the severe speed hump I was headed for and slowed down considerably) - still mud, ice, ice-covered mud and mud-covered ice still very much in evidence - at least it was above zero today :smile:

[perry]

5.69km in 26 minutes today - hit 39.6km/h at one point (before I remembered the severe speed hump I was headed for and slowed down considerably) - still mud, ice, ice-covered mud and mud-covered ice still very much in evidence - at least it was above zero today :smile:

I bet you have more fun riding your bike than I do on the stationary bike! I got in a touch over 5 miles in 40 minutes today. Most I've done, both time and distance, since I've started exercising 6 weeks ago today. I may not be losing much weight, but I can sure tell that my fitness level is improving.

[Doug]

I started the week off good, Monday 30 minutes on the elliptical, and the next day I was side-lined with a cold. I’ve maintained a healthy diet though. I’ll have numbers next week.

[gatto]

Unfortunately my nike sport sensor does not register steps taken on an elliptical running which is a shame because they are so nice and low impact. I didn't have time to run today because I was in orientation all morning and now it's dark out. I didn't eat much today so that is definitely a good thing. The only problem is I forgot to bring a scale so I won't know what I weigh until march :lol:

[SepticTank]

I bet you have more fun riding your bike than I do on the stationary bike!

Yeah, loving all that ice & mud :biggrin: I've discovered shirts I'd forgotten about when returning from mudsville - I may have to invest in a rear mud-deflector actually.

[Gruder]

Alright, we need some new members this weekend. Who's joining the BBGAC?

Grocery shopping can be a bit depressing in the midst of a serious weight loss commitment. What are everyone's favorite (or at least more tolerable) weight loss foods? Personally, I enjoy eating a clementine (essentially a small easy-to-peel orange) or two when mid-day hunger comes along.

[SRock]

Since I didn't find this thread until just now, I'll tell you where I was, where I am now and where I want to be.

First the facts:

I am 5'6" tall and have a large muscular frame. At only 5'6" I have a 46" chest.

Two years into my Air Force career I was 177lbs with a 28" waist. The guns used to be 17" around and my goals back then were larger and larger muscles.

In Jun of 2008 I was 214lbs with a 35-36" waist.

I started running and to tell the truth became a runner in August of '08. From Aug - Dec '08 I ran almost 500 miles.

Currently I am 180lbs at a 33" waist and would like to lose 10 more and get down to a 32" waist (or less).

I no longer lift several hours a day like I did in my twenties (not sure that the joints could handle that level of strain anyways), nor do I feel the need to be a Hulk of a man. My focus is primarily on Cardio. My goals now are simply about health and maintaining the best shape/form I can for the benefit of my health and my Air Force Career. I regularly do pushups and sit ups but I no longer lift heavy/regularly.

Wish me luck on losing that final 10!

[gatto]

Alright, we need some new members this weekend. Who's joining the BBGAC?

Grocery shopping can be a bit depressing in the midst of a serious weight loss commitment. What are everyone's favorite (or at least more tolerable) weight loss foods? Personally, I enjoy eating a clementine (essentially a small easy-to-peel orange) or two when mid-day hunger comes along.

my favorites are low fat yogurt, non sugary cereal with skim milk, eggs, low calorie bread (try weight watchers bread) toasted with low fat cheese, Oranges, grapes, apples, bananas, strawberries, sugar free jello and jello pudding, fish is fantastic when you're on a diet, salmon is very good but does have a lot of fat for fish so try a small portion with a lot of green veggies. When I'm on a diet I make salmon with just garlic, lemon juice and some salt and bake it in the oven. I almost forgot, try some morning star farms meat analogs. Morning star has really good veggie sausages that taste very similar and have a similar texture to McDonalds breakfast sausages only these have 60 calories and I think only 1 gram of fat.


You can eat similar things as you use to but in a different way. Take breakfast, where you were having toast eggs and sausage you can make weight watchers toast, two pieces are about 110 calories, and instead of butter you can put a piece of laughing cow soft swiss cheese on it (30 calories, covers the whole piece of toast) and spread it like butter, still have your two eggs and sub out the sausage for veggie sausage. I actually do a lot of substitutions like this. If anybody is interested I'll put up some more.

I know this isn't a huge milestone but my pants fit comfortably again :001_smile

[perry]

In Jun of 2008 I was 214lbs with a 35-36" waist.

I started running and to tell the truth became a runner in August of '08. From Aug - Dec '08 I ran almost 500 miles.

Currently I am 180lbs at a 33" waist and would like to lose 10 more and get down to a 32" waist (or less).

Sounds like this fat body is the one that needs encouragement from you! Those last 10 should be a walk (or, jog as the case may be) in the park for you. :a11:

40 minutes on the treadmill for me today, got a touch over 3 miles. Ran 1.5 of those, which is unheard of for me. Haven't ran that far in probably 8 or 9 years! Was exhausted when I was done, but felt good.

I was at the store this morning, always thinking about healthy stuff as I made my rounds. Avoided the potato chip aisle for the fourth week in a row, which is unheard of for me. I've always ate wheat bread, but have also switched over to wheat bagels as well. The laughing cow cheese is pretty good, I'll have to try some on my bagels! Wheat pasta actually tastes pretty good. This week I paired it with a piece of parmesean crusted talapia from Sam's Club.

I've discovered the little applesauce cups sweetened with Splenda. Good for something sweet after dinner.

[DunEdinRanger]

but I need me some walkin/exercizin' shoes first! :eek:

Brooks Beast! Those are the shoes.


noooo ...office doughnuts :frown: I caved


I'm going to rain on gatto's parade and I know how persnickety felines hate water...


Instead of posting my weight how about I just post it as +whatever I want to lose. So right now it would be +20, I can live with that. I am loving my new nike sport gear. If anyone has a nano you should definitely pick one up. I paid $30 for mine and I don't even use nike shoes with it. It says you are suppose to but I just slid the sensor into my shoe between my sock and the tongue and it calibrated and worked just fine.

I like how I can base my workouts on calories, so I can tell my ipod I want to have a 300 calorie workout and instead of updating time or distance it tells me how I'm doing calorie wise which is really what is important anyway. I did a quick little 17 minute 150 calorie jog today, I've slowed down a bit since last time I was working out a lot. In april I was doing 30 minute 320 calorie 2.5 mile jogs. Right now I'm at about an 18 minute mile .


The Nike is an accelerometer, which means it measures force, not stride or steps. It has some limitations but is a good training tool. However, I wouldn't trust it for calorie calculations.

http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=756 gives calories burned for activities.

So does this site, which lets you enter your weight and it calcluates the calories burned - http://www.fatfreekitchen.com/weightloss/burn-calories.html

[perry]

So does this site, which lets you enter your weight and it calcluates the calories burned - http://www.fatfreekitchen.com/weightloss/burn-calories.html

I thought the stationary bike in my fitness center was nuts with the calorie counts, but it's spot on with those numbers. It's weird though, because I was certainly more exhausted after 40 minutes on the treadmill today than the same time on the bike yesterday. Maybe what the bike thinks is vigorous isn't really? Oh well, as long as I do either one, I'm on the right track!

[sol92258]

some of you may want to research Tabata protocol for interval training...hardest 4 minute workout you'll ever have short of boot camp or similar extreme regiment

[SRock]

Sounds like this fat body is the one that needs encouragement from you! Those last 10 should be a walk (or, jog as the case may be) in the park for you. :a11:

40 minutes on the treadmill for me today, got a touch over 3 miles. Ran 1.5 of those, which is unheard of for me. Haven't ran that far in probably 8 or 9 years! Was exhausted when I was done, but felt good.

I was at the store this morning, always thinking about healthy stuff as I made my rounds. Avoided the potato chip aisle for the fourth week in a row, which is unheard of for me. I've always ate wheat bread, but have also switched over to wheat bagels as well. The laughing cow cheese is pretty good, I'll have to try some on my bagels! Wheat pasta actually tastes pretty good. This week I paired it with a piece of parmesean crusted talapia from Sam's Club.

I've discovered the little applesauce cups sweetened with Splenda. Good for something sweet after dinner.

Thanks for the kind words. The best advice is to simply stick with it! When I started in August 08 I couldn't run a full mile without slowing down. Now 3-5 miles 5-7 days per week (depending on how I feel) is relatively easy. In fact 7 or 8 miles once a week isn't all that hard. When I started 40 minutes would have gotten me about 3 miles, now 40 minutes buys me about 5-5.25 miles if I'm feeling well rested.

Keep up the good work, once the progress really hits it snowballs faster and faster!

[miza_b]

some of you may want to research Tabata protocol for interval training...hardest 4 minute workout you'll ever have short of boot camp or similar extreme regiment

I'm training up to be able to do Tabata or FGB. In the meantime, I'm looking into the benefits of incline training. I'm going to have to do it on a regular treadmill, since incline trainers are really expensive. It looks like you can burn a ton more calories by walking up hill as opposed to running on a flat surface. It kinda seems like common sense, but I've never tried that.

[DunEdinRanger]

I am at 208.4 lbs today.

I was at 211.8 on 2 January.

Progress is good.

[alabamalawyer]

I'm in. After exersing and losing weight last year, I have packed it back on through lack of diet and exercise. At 6'2" and 257, my BMI is 33 which puts me in the obese category. I never thought of myself as obese as I have a big upper body from my weight lifiting days. However, the tire around my waste is large -- 44".

I will update my diet every day or so, but will only weigh myself about every 4.

I will restrict myself to two diet sodas a day and drink water at all other times. I need to keep track of daily caloric intake and look for a well balanced diet at about 40/40/20 ratio. My goal is to limit caloric intake to between 1800-2000 calories a day. I will start exersing 3 days a week beginning tomorrow and that will increase over the coming months.

Any input or suggestions from members is welcome.

[sol92258]

I'm training up to be able to do Tabata or FGB. In the meantime, I'm looking into the benefits of incline training. I'm going to have to do it on a regular treadmill, since incline trainers are really expensive. It looks like you can burn a ton more calories by walking up hill as opposed to running on a flat surface. It kinda seems like common sense, but I've never tried that.
yep, inclines are serious b'idness...
try backwards walking, too...it's not so much a calorie burner in itself, but it trains and stretches a bunch of muscles and ligaments that might otherwise get ignored, improving overall health

[sol92258]

I'm in. After exersing and losing weight last year, I have packed it back on through lack of diet and exercise. At 6'2" and 257, my BMI is 33 which puts me in the obese category. I never thought of myself as obese as I have a big upper body from my weight lifiting days. However, the tire around my waste is large -- 44".

I will update my diet every day or so, but will only weigh myself about every 4.

I will restrict myself to two diet sodas a day and drink water at all other times. I need to keep track of daily caloric intake and look for a well balanced diet at about 40/40/20 ratio. My goal is to limit caloric intake to between 1800-2000 calories a day. I will start exersing 3 days a week beginning tomorrow and that will increase over the coming months.

Any input or suggestions from members is welcome.

I'm not your doctor, but that might be a bit extreme for you, 2000 calories ain't much.
You may consider doing 5-6 smaller meals a day, 400-500 calories per meal. check the web for a calorie calculator, it will help you determine how many calories a week to eat to lose a pound, 2 pounds, etc, based on body weight and activity level, so take that and divide it by 5 or 6, depending on how many meals you plan to do, and modify it each month as you progress and lose weight.
you don't want such an extreme calorie cut that will make your body think it's starving and hold fat in for reserve...frequent small meals will stoke your metabolism, kinda like slowing feeding a fire a little bit of wood frequently will keep it hotter, and dumping a bunch on in one setting will nearly put it out.
just a thought, may or may not be worth 2 cents...

[Gruder]

Lou -- great work -- keep it up.
Chris -- welcome!

[DunEdinRanger]

Anyone know of good, inexpensive software that will track your caloric intake, exercise, and also provide a rudimentary analysis regarding the RDA of vitamins and minerals along with the percentage of fats, carbs and proteins consumed?

[Sullybob]

I took two days of from running to let my body recover and today I had my best run yet. Prior to the run I walked my dogs 2 miles, then walked .3 miles to the park where I run. I ran 3 miles in 26:40 walked for .25 of a mile then ran another .75 and walked .3 home.

I'll do it again tomorrow.

I also may join a 19 hour fitness tomorrow. They are having a $10 a month special right now and they have a gym three blocks from my house. Running on treadmills and elliptical machines is great for my knees and ankles.

I hope that everyone is doing good. Stay motivated.

[perry]

I am at 208.4 lbs today.

I was at 211.8 on 2 January.

Progress is good.

Good job! Check out www.fitday.com - I don't know if it has been mentioned in this thread yet, but it may be the type of site you're looking at for logging.


Any input or suggestions from members is welcome.

Since you say you used to do body building, you probably know your body pretty well, but it seems like a pretty aggressive plan to get started. I wish you luck!




3 miles on the treadmill again today. I ran the first 1.25, which is pretty good for me. Running sure kicks my ass more than riding the stationary bike.

Today, I learned that raw tomatoes aren't all that bad. Had some grape tomatoes with my lunch. See, I'm not a veggie eater, but since I'm cutting out chips and fries, I need something else to eat with my meals. I need to learn to eat my veggies!

I did cheat on my promise not to buy more shaving goods. My bottle of Aqua Velva is almost empty, so I bought a new one!

[sol92258]

oh, almost forgot...

Height: 6'2"
Weight: 290 lb
Waist: 44 in
Change in weight since last update: 2 lb
Total weight lost: 2 lb
Inches dropped since last update: N/A
Total inches dropped: N/A
Weight goal: 245 lb
Waist goal: 38 in

[PKHammer]

Just got back from a ski retreat with my students, but since I don't ski the only exercise I was able to squeeze in was a snow football game on the side of one of the slopes. I was marginally able to watch what I ate and limit the amount of soda intake. Now that I'm back home, its back on the grind. I'll have my official weigh in tomorrow (I've already eaten breakfast and want to give myself every advantage I can).

[miza_b]

I was coming here this morning to post a quick status update

Weight: 354lbs

But, my company now has B&B blocked because it "violates the Mutual Respect and Sexual Harassment policies." I'm fighting it because there is nothing on this site that is offensive to anyone. I'm able to bypass the block using an online proxy, but I shouldn't have to do that. I'm so angry :mad:

[perry]

But, my company now has B&B blocked because it "violates the Mutual Respect and Sexual Harassment policies." I'm fighting it because there is nothing on this site that is offensive to anyone. I'm able to bypass the block using an online proxy, but I shouldn't have to do that. I'm so angry :mad:

Careful, careful. Posting here isn't worth losing your job!

Oh yea, today was 3.5 miles on the stationary bike. My legs were a little sore from the running over the weekend, so I took it easy on the bike.

[miza_b]

I was coming here this morning to post a quick status update

Weight: 354lbs

But, my company now has B&B blocked because it "violates the Mutual Respect and Sexual Harassment policies." I'm fighting it because there is nothing on this site that is offensive to anyone. I'm able to bypass the block using an online proxy, but I shouldn't have to do that. I'm so angry :mad:


Careful, careful. Posting here isn't worth losing your job!

Oh yea, today was 3.5 miles on the stationary bike. My legs were a little sore from the running over the weekend, so I took it easy on the bike.

Yeah, it looks like I jumped the gun, so to speak. One of our main links was down, so they cranked up the filter to save bandwidth. I should be able to access B&B tomorrow when the link is restored :001_smile

Good job on the bike. Stationary bikes kill my quads, so I'd much rather walk or run.

[gatto]

I'm definitely in luck, my roommates are both skinny athletes who keep taking me to the gym.

did 30 minutes on an elliptical machine and then 20 on a bike, came out to two miles of jogging and 3 miles of biking, I cranked up the resistance on both.

[Sullybob]

I just got back from the gym. It has been a long time since I used an elliptical machine, I had forgetting how nice they are on my knees, ankles, hips and lower back :lol:

I did 30 minutes on the elliptical and 30 minutes on the treadmill. I burned 811 calories total according machines and covered 7 miles in the process.

[SRock]

I'm definitely in luck, my roommates are both skinny athletes who keep taking me to the gym.

did 30 minutes on an elliptical machine and then 20 on a bike, came out to two miles of jogging and 3 miles of biking, I cranked up the resistance on both.

That'll do it! You are both lucky and damned all at the same time! Keep it up!


I just got back from the gym. It has been a long time since I used an elliptical machine, I had forgetting how nice they are on my knees, ankles, hips and lower back :lol:

I did 30 minutes on the elliptical and 30 minutes on the treadmill. I burned 811 calories total according machines and covered 7 miles in the process.

Awesome job ellipticals are great for the joints and it's a good way to shake things up from time to time even for die hard runners.

My run this morning was 4.5 miles on a treadmill in 39 minutes. I really hate treadmills, but with all the snow and ice we have right now that is my only real option. I'll be sore tomorrow though. I had several days off in between runs. Any more than a 2 day break and I pay for it!

[SepticTank]

5.69km in 26 minutes today - hit 39.6km/h at one point (before I remembered the severe speed hump I was headed for and slowed down considerably) - still mud, ice, ice-covered mud and mud-covered ice still very much in evidence - at least it was above zero today :smile:

2.5km of uphill thigh bending yesterday - and 6km of mud, gravel, grass, muddy gravel, muddy grass, grassy mud and gravelly mud today - including a brief trip across an 'international' frontier :lol: (in to England)

[alabamalawyer]

Day 1 (yesterday) down. Diet was good -- low fat, moderate carb and good protein. Also had 35 minutes of exercise.

[alabamalawyer]

I'm not your doctor, but that might be a bit extreme for you, 2000 calories ain't much.
You may consider doing 5-6 smaller meals a day, 400-500 calories per meal. check the web for a calorie calculator, it will help you determine how many calories a week to eat to lose a pound, 2 pounds, etc, based on body weight and activity level, so take that and divide it by 5 or 6, depending on how many meals you plan to do, and modify it each month as you progress and lose weight.
you don't want such an extreme calorie cut that will make your body think it's starving and hold fat in for reserve...frequent small meals will stoke your metabolism, kinda like slowing feeding a fire a little bit of wood frequently will keep it hotter, and dumping a bunch on in one setting will nearly put it out.
just a thought, may or may not be worth 2 cents...

Thanks for the input. My body seems to do pretty well with calorie restrictions. I break my meals down into 5 or 6 smaller meals. When I get to exercising 4 times a week or more then I will typically have a post-work out recovery drink.

Today's menu is:

Breakfast: 3 eggs whites scrambled mixed with 1 turkey sausage patty and green onion , 2 pieces of wheat toast with less than tsp of jam on each, water.

Mid-morning snack: 1 Zone bar, water

Lunch: Salad with 1 serving shredded parmesian cheese, lettuce, 1 grilled chicken breast, few baby carrots, 1 serving fat free crutons and water

Afternoon snack: 2 pieces of light string cheese and apple or low-fat yogurt

Dinner: grilled fish with vegetables, diet soda

If need any additional will have a low calorie protein shake.

Sound ok?

[DunEdinRanger]

4.4 Km on the treadmill plus another 1.6 miles walking around town. By my conservative estimates that was over 400 calories spent.

[gatto]

Did about 20 minutes on the bike today, things were busy. I'm also really hungry for some reason.

[Artytheparty90]

Hey, I decided to join this thread as I'm in the process of losing body fat as well (I say losing body fat because I want to gain weight, but lose fat). When I first started at the gym I was 5'9 100 kg (220 pounds) and 24% body fat. I'm now just about 6'0 115.5 kg (255 pounds) and only 19% body fat :biggrin: I want to lose another 5% body fat, so for now I'm running and swimming every day on top of just doing weights.

[sol92258]

Thanks for the input. My body seems to do pretty well with calorie restrictions. I break my meals down into 5 or 6 smaller meals. When I get to exercising 4 times a week or more then I will typically have a post-work out recovery drink.

Today's menu is:

Breakfast: 3 eggs whites scrambled mixed with 1 turkey sausage patty and green onion , 2 pieces of wheat toast with less than tsp of jam on each, water.

Mid-morning snack: 1 Zone bar, water

Lunch: Salad with 1 serving shredded parmesian cheese, lettuce, 1 grilled chicken breast, few baby carrots, 1 serving fat free crutons and water

Afternoon snack: 2 pieces of light string cheese and apple or low-fat yogurt

Dinner: grilled fish with vegetables, diet soda

If need any additional will have a low calorie protein shake.

Sound ok?

Looks pretty good, like I said, when it comes to nutrition, I'm no expert, I just know what I've read and experienced - the comparison to a Green Belt would not be out of order - knows just enough to be dangerous :biggrin:

Here's some links to calorie calculators I mentioned before:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/calorie-calculator/NU00598
http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm
http://www.fitday.com/ (free membership allows you access to one, IIRC)

there are more, but you'll get the same thing basically, just Google it... (http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=calorie%20calculator)

like I said, I get concerned for my Brethren when I see such a drastic change, just didn't want a potential bear-trap to catch ya!

[Gruder]

Welcome Chris and Arty -- thanks for helping to motivate the rest of us! Thanks also to those who've posted activity this week.

My own progress thus far: Original BMI: 35.2, Current BMI: 34.4. That's frankly a bit faster than I'd like to be losing, and I paid the price by feeling pretty much devoid of energy on Sunday, but I'm feeling much better now... Travel and meals with potential colleagues starting tomorrow -- wish me luck!

[sol92258]

Welcome Chris and Arty -- thanks for helping to motivate the rest of us! Thanks also to those who've posted activity this week.

My own progress thus far: Original BMI: 35.2, Current BMI: 34.4. That's frankly a bit faster than I'd like to be losing, and I paid the price by feeling pretty much devoid of energy on Sunday, but I'm feeling much better now... Travel and meals with potential colleagues starting tomorrow -- wish me luck!

*Msg'd via in PM

[SRock]

Day 1 (yesterday) down. Diet was good -- low fat, moderate carb and good protein. Also had 35 minutes of exercise.

Getting started is often the hardest part! Keep it up!

[alabamalawyer]

Here's some links to calorie calculators I mentioned before:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/cal...ulator/NU00598
http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm
http://www.fitday.com/ (free membership allows you access to one, IIRC)

Thanks for the links. I did have a snack after dinner last night consisting of 1 serving of fat free pretzels and one piece of light string cheese about 160 calories total.

Caloric intake was right at 2000 yesterday. I will monitor and if start feeling hungry will add another small meal.

Thanks

[Sullybob]

Welcome Chris and Arty -- thanks for helping to motivate the rest of us! Thanks also to those who've posted activity this week.

My own progress thus far: Original BMI: 35.2, Current BMI: 34.4. That's frankly a bit faster than I'd like to be losing, and I paid the price by feeling pretty much devoid of energy on Sunday, but I'm feeling much better now... Travel and meals with potential colleagues starting tomorrow -- wish me luck!

Good luck Chad. Its always difficult for me to maintain my diet and exercise while I'm traveling.

[SepticTank]

2.5km of uphill thigh bending yesterday - and 6km of mud, gravel, grass, muddy gravel, muddy grass, grassy mud and gravelly mud today - including a brief trip across an 'international' frontier :lol: (in to England)

Another cross-border trip today 4.84km in 18 minutes - cut short by a puncture :mad: it couldn't happen on the way back of course or on the way - it had to happen at the point at which I was as far from home as possible....

Still I pumped it up to 95psi - thankfully the puncture was reasonably "slow" and rode most of the way back, along the shortest return route.

Puncture repaired and ready to try that route again tomorrow.

[JBHoren]

Height: 6'1"
Weight: 299 lb
Waist: 46 in
Weight loss since last update: 0 lb
Total weight lost: 8 lb
Inches dropped since last update: N/A
Total inches dropped: N/A
Weight goal: 175 lb
Waist goal: 34"

I'm going "car-free" at the end of January, and have been bicycle riding on a (more-or-less) every-other-day schedule since Hannukah. That, and moving to a more whole-grain/high-fiber diet, with an emphasis on "portion control" (a killer)... buying a small crock-pot sure has helped.

[waitasecun]

so I started my day off with 2 bagels loaded with cream cheese.....They tased good but I kept thinking to myself..."how am I going to lose some weight and tone up if I don't stop eating stuff like this" and it hit me......I need to start posting more here exactly what I eat every day so you guys can bitch at me for eating badly and praise me for eating well......lol...!

[Sullybob]

so I started my day off with 2 bagels loaded with cream cheese.....They tased good but I kept thinking to myself..."how am I going to lose some weight and tone up if I don't stop eating stuff like this" and it hit me......I need to start posting more here exactly what I eat every day so you guys can bitch at me for eating badly and praise me for eating well......lol...!

Were they at least whole wheat bagels? Low fat cream cheese?:eek:

[perry]

I created a page on the wiki for us to use:
http://wiki.badgerandblade.com/index.php/Athletic_Club

I went through the thread and did my best at recording everyone's starting point, goal, and last check-in. I'm sure I messed some stuff up, so feel free to fix it yourself, if you're comfortable doing that, or post/PM the correction. If you'd rather your info not be there, you or I can remove it.

I'll try to keep it updated, but won't make any promises. Feel free to hop in there! Or if it's a bad idea, we won't use it.


Were they at least whole wheat bagels? Low fat cream cheese?:eek:

That's actually pretty good! I've always used lowfat cream cheese, can't stand the fatfree stuff, and just recently switched to whole wheat for the bagels too. I like em! One probably would have been a better choice though! :frown:

[yardpup01]

Perry that's pretty neat.

Weekly update:
Height: 6' 0'
Weight: 218 lb
Waist: 43.5 in
Weight loss since last update: 0 lb
Total weight lost: 0 lb
Inches dropped since last update: 0 in
Total inches dropped: 0 in
Weight goal: 190 lb
Waist goal: 38"

I've been exercising nearly everyday, and I think that I've cut back on my food. Maybe I need to get more serious on the diet aspect. It's hard when my friends like to eat out a lot, but no excuses! I swear next week will show improvement.

[SepticTank]

Puncture repaired and ready to try that route again tomorrow.

A swift thrash around the village today - 3.08km (about 2/3 of it uphill) in 12 minutes... puncture repair held - longer ride tomorrow.

[sol92258]

I created a page on the wiki for us to use:
http://wiki.badgerandblade.com/index.php/Athletic_Club

that's very cool! I had thought about doing that, but then I had another idea Chad (Gruder) and I are working on...stay tuned!

[perry]

Seven days of exercising, doing my best to eat right -- no chips or fries, lots of salads, and I'm rewarded with a pound. I know my diet could still improve.. working on it. Still, far, far better than it was.



Date Weight
01/01/09 - 254
01/08/09 - 254
01/15/09 - 253

Today was 40 minutes on the stationary bike, just over 5 miles. I think I'll take Friday off. My knees are hurting me, so maybe the rest day will help them out. Been about 16 days straight with some sort of exercise.

Oh, someone brought in donuts today. They sat across from my cube all morning long! I passed! :a11:

[DunEdinRanger]

so I started my day off with 2 bagels loaded with cream cheese.....They tased good but I kept thinking to myself..."how am I going to lose some weight and tone up if I don't stop eating stuff like this" and it hit me......I need to start posting more here exactly what I eat every day so you guys can bitch at me for eating badly and praise me for eating well......lol...!

One of the guys that worked with me many years ago was trying to lose weight and always came in with a buttered bagel. One day, he comes in with TWO Bagels with cream cheese.

:confused: We asked him if he was still trying to lose weight.

Sure am, but I was watching TV and they said Cream Cheese has half the calories of butter so that means I can eat TWO! :lol:

Of course it doesn't work that way...

[burnwood]

thank goodness I was left off that wiki page as I have not done anything yet.

[Sullybob]

I created a page on the wiki for us to use:
http://wiki.badgerandblade.com/index.php/Athletic_Club

I went through the thread and did my best at recording everyone's starting point, goal, and last check-in. I'm sure I messed some stuff up, so feel free to fix it yourself, if you're comfortable doing that, or post/PM the correction. If you'd rather your info not be there, you or I can remove it.

I'll try to keep it updated, but won't make any promises. Feel free to hop in there! Or if it's a bad idea, we won't use it.:

Very cool. Thanks.


Update for the week.

Weight 210.8
Body fat 29.5% I am starting to think that my scale is not very accurate when it checks the body fat.

[SepticTank]

A swift thrash around the village today - 3.08km (about 2/3 of it uphill) in 12 minutes... puncture repair held - longer ride tomorrow.

A muddy woodland odyssey today - 6.42km in 34 minutes. Hit 40.04km/h at one point (obviously not for long lol).

[King of Kailua]

I highly recommend podrunner intervals (http://www.djsteveboy.com/intervals.html) for those of you/us that are beginning a running routine. The interval technique will help you towards an increased intensity and caloric burn as well as provide a break in a droll routine. Interval training is great for the newbie and the advanced. It works! I use this podcast on treadmill runs that run me up a "hill" that gains steepness over 30 minutes, then I run down the "hill" at an increased speed with some Jody's recorded by the USMC, then I run on the flat or a small hill and ramp down the intensity to a walk. The process takes about an hour, burns an estimated 700 calories (on average so far), and averages about 4.5 miles so far. It's been great to get access to a good treadmill. I have had a knee injury that kept me from running distances on the road without pain. The treadmill is cushioned and steady so I can run again. Hallelujah!

Now I incorporate running into a tabata routine (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1608/is_5_20/ai_n6011850/print?tag=artBody;col1) that includes kettle bell lifts, push ups, sit ups, rope jumping, and other exercises. I believe the tabata routine really has helped me push my anaerobic threshold which for me, combined with the aerobic running workouts has led me to improved performance in the sports I compete in. You don't need to be an athlete to realize the benefits of interval training. It's just a great all around training and exercise routine.

[PKHammer]

Ran 1 1/2 miles yest, the 4th time out this year. Weight is down a few pounds to 186. I'm more concerned with a lifestyle change at this point then I am in anything else. So far so good. I have a conference coming up in 2 weeks, so if I can get past that, I should be good for a while.

[Sullybob]

King of Kailua,
Thanks for the link to the article on tabata. I thought it was pretty interesting.

I also like to do intervals with hills on the treadmill.

[SRock]

3 miles in 27 minutes today. Still on a treadmill, I hate treadmills. I prefer to run outside, but there is still too much snow and the wind is biting cold!

[sol92258]

King of Kailua,
Thanks for the link to the article on tabata. I thought it was pretty interesting.

I also like to do intervals with hills on the treadmill.
yeah, tabata is awesome...but be prepared for the toughest 4 minutes you've probably known
(I probably shoulda added links to my post :blush:)

anyway, nothing to report this week, been bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad. Bad decision after bad decision...my apologies for letting everyone down
But, my resolve has been tempered, and my focus reset...time, for, ice cream!
just kidding

everyone remember...if you fail to plan, then you plan to fail.
set realistic goals, set specific goals, and steps to achieve them.
you can't just jump in and "I'm gonna do this" or "I'm gonna do that" in a vague and ambiguous manner...have an attack plan!

also, allow me to throw in something for your ponderance...we're not "losing weight", I discovered awhile back to not say you're going to lose weight, say, literally say it, everytime you talk about your plans, that you're going to get rid of, shed, jettison, discard, etc. the weight.
Two things - these words are action words, giving you the added drive to get rid of the extra pounds, versus "lose", which is something usually passive - "I lost my keys" - you didn't actively set out to lose your keys, did you?
and secondly, what happens when you lose your keys? You set about to find them, of course! now, that's a normal habit...so what happens when you "lose" weight? yep...invariably you find it again :blushing:

so, a small encouragement from me to you - change your plan from "losing" weight to "getting rid" of it!

Today's motivational speech brought to you by the letter J, and the number 3,141,159...
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[waitasecun]

Were they at least whole wheat bagels? Low fat cream cheese?:eek:

they were not whole wheat bagels and no the cream cheese was not fat free or low fat...sadly to say...but today I am making my own tomato sauce....I bought low sodium puree and put olives, capers, garlic, olive oil, salt and pepper into it and I am cooking a sirloin roast in it...and with it I am eating whole wheat fettucine....

[SRock]

Just keep in mind the weight loss is generally like a roller coaster. It starts off slow, but as you "motivate" your metabolism so to speak the weight loss will gradually increase, level off, and then slow a little. I lost 4 pounds in 2 months when I started, but I lost 12 pounds in month three. Just hang in there!


Seven days of exercising, doing my best to eat right -- no chips or fries, lots of salads, and I'm rewarded with a pound. I know my diet could still improve.. working on it. Still, far, far better than it was.



Date Weight
01/01/09 - 254
01/08/09 - 254
01/15/09 - 253

Today was 40 minutes on the stationary bike, just over 5 miles. I think I'll take Friday off. My knees are hurting me, so maybe the rest day will help them out. Been about 16 days straight with some sort of exercise.

Oh, someone brought in donuts today. They sat across from my cube all morning long! I passed! :a11:

[perry]

I highly recommend podrunner intervals (http://www.djsteveboy.com/intervals.html) for those of you/us that are beginning a running routine. The interval technique will help you towards an increased intensity and caloric burn as well as provide a break in a droll routine.

Hey, that's pretty neat. Thanks for sharing. I did a workout of week 2 this morning and enjoyed it. Changing the speed on the treadmill in the fitness center is a pain which made the week 1 workout a bit unappealing. I think I'll stick with it and see where I end up. I'd be pretty happy to be running 5k in 9 weeks! If my knees keep on bugging me, I may head to local running shop (http://www.erunningcompany.com/) and get properly fitted for new shoes.


Just keep in mind the weight loss is generally like a roller coaster. It starts off slow, but as you "motivate" your metabolism so to speak the weight loss will gradually increase, level off, and then slow a little. I lost 4 pounds in 2 months when I started, but I lost 12 pounds in month three. Just hang in there!

Yea, my metabolism is all messed up from getting my eating problem fixed. Went from having a hard time getting half a meal down to eating normal amounts pretty much overnight. So my body is having to get used to me eating regular amounts of food again. I think I'm actually doing good by simply not gaining weight back, for right now :smile:

[SRock]

Yea, my metabolism is all messed up from getting my eating problem fixed. Went from having a hard time getting half a meal down to eating normal amounts pretty much overnight. So my body is having to get used to me eating regular amounts of food again. I think I'm actually doing good by simply not gaining weight back, for right now :smile:

Even for people who eat well and in "regular" amounts but are sedentary, simply starting a regular exercise routine will eventually result in an accelerated metabolism. The hotter your engine is burning (so to speak) the more calories your body will burn even when you are doing nothing at all. Regular exercise not only builds muscles and burns calories it boosts your metabolism which in turn burns even more calories and fat.

[Gruder]

I created a page on the wiki for us to use:
http://wiki.badgerandblade.com/index.php/Athletic_Club

This is amazing -- thanks for putting it together!


that's very cool! I had thought about doing that, but then I had another idea Chad (Gruder) and I are working on...stay tuned!

I'll get there sometime this weekend Jim -- stay tuned just a bit longer whilst I catch up with everything!


thank goodness I was left off that wiki page as I have not done anything yet.

How about now?





Now?




I'm thrilled that so many are hanging in there -- so many folks "fall off the wagon" by this point in January! New members are always welcome -- who's going to help start the "mid-January resolution" trend?

[PKHammer]

I was just talking to a friend who said his gym was deserted the other day, all the noobs had dropped out already. Like I said in my last post, for me its about lifestyle change rather than a resolution. That being said, just came in from a good 2 mile run/jog in 21 minutes.

Question for those who may know in here: my calves and shins burn after about 5 minutes of running. Is this normal for new runners, a sign of improper stretching (I'm trying to do a good job of this one), dehydration, or something else?

[saegoose]

The pain you feel is due to the use of small muscles and stablizers that are unaccustomed to work. After a few sessions, the pain will disappear as the muscles learn to accomodate greater work.

[saegoose]

www.fitday.com

[King of Kailua]

Question for those who may know in here: my calves and shins burn after about 5 minutes of running. Is this normal for new runners, a sign of improper stretching (I'm trying to do a good job of this one), dehydration, or something else?

For a good calf stretch try standing on the balls of your feet over a step or curb and hang your heels down for a minute or so.

I just finished a good 5 mile run in an hour and lately, I've had a nagging pain in the region of my right achilles tendon. I do notice that actively stretching before and after (particularly after) a run relieves this condition somewhat. Over time, as my running fitness has improved, and the length of my runs has increased I believe this pain is subsiding. After a run, I use cold packs to reduce swelling and take a couple of ibuprofen. I also take some supplements that focus on inflammation response. Two that I really like are New Chapter's zyflamend (http://www.newchapter.com/products/zyflamend), and Barlean's Omega-3 EPA/DHA fish oil (http://www.barleans.com/literature/2007/Lit%20150%20Fish%20Oil%20SS.pdf). I also incorporate natural anti-inflammatory herbs into my diet like tumeric, ginger, and garlic.

I have a backstory to all of this: Last March I was taken down by an injury to my spine that left me unable to stand, walk, sit, or lie down without significant pain. For 6 weeks I was literally lying in a fetal position on a pile of pillows before I could even begin to walk. As I recovered from the acute phase of my injury, I began to walk 100 meters only at first, then 200m the next day, and so on. Slowly swimming with a mask and snorkel brought back my range of motion. And now today with much rehab physical therapy, I am back to surfing, running, paddling, and competing in sports activities. I am still recovering as I can feel the nerves in my neck (c-4,5,6 area) impinging. But by actively taking steps to control inflammation I have been able to work back to a decent level of fitness. Anyway, that's my story so far. I'm stoked I can walk again, let alone run, paddle and surf. :biggrin:

[perry]

This is amazing -- thanks for putting it together!



I'll get there sometime this weekend Jim -- stay tuned just a bit longer whilst I catch up with everything!


Should I keep trying to update, or will what ya'll are doin' supercede it?

I was Googling around for info on the Podrunner series and found this message (http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/podrunner/message/2036). I think I'll go ahead and download them all!

[King of Kailua]

I was Googling around for info on the Podrunner series and found this message (http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/podrunner/message/2036). I think I'll go ahead and download them all!

Hmm, that's a bummer! You can get the whole podrunner series downloaded via a free itunes podcast. It appears to have been released on iTunes in 2008. Search the itunes store for podrunner.

[ravkesef]

September 1, 2007, 190#, BMI = 30.2
January 1, 2009, 146# BMI = 23.2
That's 44 # in 16 months. And I'm 5' 6.5" tall, so you only imagine what that extra 44# looked like on my short frame. And I didn't go hungry--not once, not for a single minute.
The secret--no secret. I went on the Atkins diet and the pounds just fell off. My meals were balanced, and most especially satisfying, so that I never experienced any hunger at all.
I go to the gym 5 days a week, and I eat a full diet. A typical meal:
Grill Salmon, 8 oz, asparagus with Hollandaise sauce, Caesar Salad (no croutons.) What I omit: the bread, the potatoes, the cake.
Lunch might typically be a three egg cheese omelet.

Now--for you folks who want to start criticizing the Atkins diet, let me tell you a few things first. My doctor has supervised my diet from the outset. My latest bloodwork, he tells me, looks like that of a 20 year old. (I'm 66 years old.) All my numbers are normal and I have tons of energy. If you understand the fundamental scientific principles on which the Atkins diet works, you realize why it is a successful diet, and one which the AMA now recognizes as successful and healthy. by the way, did any of you think that eating cake bread and potatoes would make you somehow healthy and lose weight? Of course, I hear detractors argue that you can't lose weight on a diet of bacon. I wouldn't know, since I'm Jewish, and a rabbi, I don't eat bacon, but I would imagine that a diet which consisted of bacon as a staple would by definition be unhealthy. But then, that isn't the Atkins diet. The Atkins diet says that one may eat bacon, whereas many diets prohibit it. The thing about the Atkins diet is to keep the variety high, and that carbs low. Do this and you we'll lose weight and your numbers will go good. This has to happen, it's a scientific truth if you understand anything about how the Krebs cycle works. Carbs go down, insulin production goes down and the body obtains its glucose from fats rather than carbs. In the process, blood sugar goes down, a1c goes down, and cholesterol goes down.
Anyway, it's been fun, I have a diet that I've been on for over a year that really works for me, having previously managed to gain weight on virtually every other diet under the sun. I eat plenty of food and I'm very healthy thank you very much.
For the rest of you good people out there who want to lose weight, remember that it won't happen on bread, ice cream, candy, cake, potatoes or basically anything that has carbohydrates in it, unless you decide to obtain your carbs from things like salads, asparagus, broccoli, and note that if you do that you don't have to skimp on the hollandaise sauce.
Enjoy!

[DunEdinRanger]

3 miles in 27 minutes today. Still on a treadmill, I hate treadmills. I prefer to run outside, but there is still too much snow and the wind is biting cold!

Same here. In a way I'm glad. People might be terrified at the sight of a water buffalo huffing, puffing, blowing snot rockets, coming up behind them. slowly.


Should I keep trying to update, or will what ya'll are doin' supercede it?

I was Googling around for info on the Podrunner series and found this message (http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/podrunner/message/2036). I think I'll go ahead and download them all!

How would we edit it?

[DunEdinRanger]

Folks,

Especially those of you who are running or starting to run, the easiest way to keep motivated is to pick a race, and sign up for way in advance.

I just plunked down some hard earned cash for the privilege of waking up very early on a weekend, and running in the cold. :biggrin:

My advice is to pick a race near you, and if you have never run distance before to pick something manageable like 5K and this is important, get the course map and check the ELEVATION gains and losses during the race.

A great site for this is http://mapmyrun.com (http://mapmyrun.com/) - if you search for DunEdinRanger you also find some of the runs I have mapped for public use.

[burnwood]

I actually just walked one brisk paced random incline mile on the treadmill. First exercise in 3 years give or take. The bad back is not happy.

[sol92258]

Should I keep trying to update, or will what ya'll are doin' supercede it?
no, we need to find a way to incorporate it!
keep it up, that's awesome work there, and much appreciated!

I actually just walked one brisk paced random incline mile on the treadmill. First exercise in 3 years give or take. The bad back is not happy.
YAY!!!!! Good job Ray, I'm proud of you!
lots of awesome reports lately....I've failed miserably this week, I dread the scale in the morning, it's gonna be ugly, however, this week the exodus_o'_fat will be full force

[Sullybob]

Should I keep trying to update, or will what ya'll are doin' supercede it?

I was Googling around for info on the Podrunner series and found this message (http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/podrunner/message/2036). I think I'll go ahead and download them all!

I updated my entry.


Folks,

Especially those of you who are running or starting to run, the easiest way to keep motivated is to pick a race, and sign up for way in advance.

I just plunked down some hard earned cash for the privilege of waking up very early on a weekend, and running in the cold. :biggrin:

My advice is to pick a race near you, and if you have never run distance before to pick something manageable like 5K and this is important, get the course map and check the ELEVATION gains and losses during the race.

A great site for this is http://mapmyrun.com (http://mapmyrun.com/) - if you search for DunEdinRanger you also find some of the runs I have mapped for public use.

That is a great suggestion. Years ago I ran regularly and I also regularly ran in races. Great motivation and you usually get a cool t-shirt. My wife keeps telling me that I need to sign up for a half marathon. I think she wants the life insurance. :001_smile


I actually just walked one brisk paced random incline mile on the treadmill. First exercise in 3 years give or take. The bad back is not happy.

Great job burnwood. Be sure and stretch that back out. I personally like to stretch in a hot shower if I think that I am going to have problems from the exercise that I did. Also maybe try getting Mrs. Burnwood to rub your back a little. Stretch your legs. They might hate you tomorrow. If I think I over did it, I'll pre medicate with motrin to try and stave off the worst of the pain.

[SRock]

September 1, 2007, 190#, BMI = 30.2
January 1, 2009, 146# BMI = 23.2
That's 44 # in 16 months. And I'm 5' 6.5" tall, so you only imagine what that extra 44# looked like on my short frame. And I didn't go hungry--not once, not for a single minute.
The secret--no secret. I went on the Atkins diet and the pounds just fell off. My meals were balanced, and most especially satisfying, so that I never experienced any hunger at all.
I go to the gym 5 days a week, and I eat a full diet. A typical meal:
Grill Salmon, 8 oz, asparagus with Hollandaise sauce, Caesar Salad (no croutons.) What I omit: the bread, the potatoes, the cake.
Lunch might typically be a three egg cheese omelet.

Now--for you folks who want to start criticizing the Atkins diet, let me tell you a few things first. My doctor has supervised my diet from the outset. My latest bloodwork, he tells me, looks like that of a 20 year old. (I'm 66 years old.) All my numbers are normal and I have tons of energy. If you understand the fundamental scientific principles on which the Atkins diet works, you realize why it is a successful diet, and one which the AMA now recognizes as successful and healthy. by the way, did any of you think that eating cake bread and potatoes would make you somehow healthy and lose weight? Of course, I hear detractors argue that you can't lose weight on a diet of bacon. I wouldn't know, since I'm Jewish, and a rabbi, I don't eat bacon, but I would imagine that a diet which consisted of bacon as a staple would by definition be unhealthy. But then, that isn't the Atkins diet. The Atkins diet says that one may eat bacon, whereas many diets prohibit it. The thing about the Atkins diet is to keep the variety high, and that carbs low. Do this and you we'll lose weight and your numbers will go good. This has to happen, it's a scientific truth if you understand anything about how the Krebs cycle works. Carbs go down, insulin production goes down and the body obtains its glucose from fats rather than carbs. In the process, blood sugar goes down, a1c goes down, and cholesterol goes down.
Anyway, it's been fun, I have a diet that I've been on for over a year that really works for me, having previously managed to gain weight on virtually every other diet under the sun. I eat plenty of food and I'm very healthy thank you very much.
For the rest of you good people out there who want to lose weight, remember that it won't happen on bread, ice cream, candy, cake, potatoes or basically anything that has carbohydrates in it, unless you decide to obtain your carbs from things like salads, asparagus, broccoli, and note that if you do that you don't have to skimp on the hollandaise sauce.
Enjoy!


Awesome congratulations! I couldn't come close to 140lbs. Maybe 165 but I used to lift heavy and often so I'm carry a bit more muscle mass. Awesome! Glad to hear you did it!

[SRock]

Folks,

Especially those of you who are running or starting to run, the easiest way to keep motivated is to pick a race, and sign up for way in advance.

I just plunked down some hard earned cash for the privilege of waking up very early on a weekend, and running in the cold. :biggrin:

My advice is to pick a race near you, and if you have never run distance before to pick something manageable like 5K and this is important, get the course map and check the ELEVATION gains and losses during the race.

A great site for this is http://mapmyrun.com (http://mapmyrun.com/) - if you search for DunEdinRanger you also find some of the runs I have mapped for public use.


This is a fantastic suggestion for new runners (or new back to running). After acing my fitness test I started running every 5K available. I did several while I was deployed. From my first to my last I shave nearly 3 minutes off of my 5K time. You start to feel better doing it and see the results. It also gives you something to train for and help motivate you to improve. This is a great idea!

[Sullybob]

This is a fantastic suggestion for new runners (or new back to running). After acing my fitness test I started running every 5K available. I did several while I was deployed. From my first to my last I shave nearly 3 minutes off of my 5K time. You start to feel better doing it and see the results. It also gives you something to train for and help motivate you to improve. This is a great idea!

Plus the t-shirts are awesome!

[SRock]

Plus the t-shirts are awesome!

And serve as a great reminder of your accomplishments.

[Sullybob]

And serve as a great reminder of your accomplishments.

The also help to motivate me.

[ravkesef]

Awesome congratulations! I couldn't come close to 140lbs. Maybe 165 but I used to lift heavy and often so I'm carry a bit more muscle mass. Awesome! Glad to hear you did it!

Thanks--appreciate the reinforcement. and, keep in mind that your percentage of body fat may be lower than mine was. I actually did the math and calculated by change in % of body fat, this accounted for all my weight loss.

[professorchaos]

Perhaps someone on this thread can explain my uncontrollable love of donuts?

In all seriousness, what a great idea. I wish I had kept up with the thread from the get go. One suggestion: Much like the SOTD threads in the General Shaving Forum, what are the chances of us getting a WOTD (Workout of The Day) thread going? A place where can show off our workouts and chastise slackers?

For now, I will create my entry in the Athletic Club Wiki.

[saegoose]

The WOTD is a fabulous idea!

[King of Kailua]

The WOTD is a fabulous idea!

Concur,a great idea chaos! What do you think, in this thread or stand alone?

[DunEdinRanger]

Regarding picking a local race...




That is a great suggestion. Years ago I ran regularly and I also regularly ran in races. Great motivation and you usually get a cool t-shirt. My wife keeps telling me that I need to sign up for a half marathon. I think she wants the life insurance. :001_smile

At a five miler I did a few years ago, in the middle of a torrential downpour at twilight, I passed a gentleman who said, "Tell my wife I love her very much." :lol: I never met the man before.


This is a fantastic suggestion for new runners (or new back to running). After acing my fitness test I started running every 5K available. I did several while I was deployed. From my first to my last I shave nearly 3 minutes off of my 5K time. You start to feel better doing it and see the results. It also gives you something to train for and help motivate you to improve. This is a great idea!

If you're in the NYC Metro Area the New York Road Runners puts on races in Central Park nearly every weekend. http://www.nyrr.org (http://www.nyrr.org/)


Plus the t-shirts are awesome!

Especially if you get a nice non cotton one. Not that I pick races on the basis of tee shirts and post race all you can eat buffets. :001_rolle


And serve as a great reminder of your accomplishments.

Do enough races and you won't ever need to buy a tee shirt again. If you want a tee shirt that's a conversation piece, do the Lincoln Tunnel Challenge. People will stop and ask you, "You ran through the Lincoln Tunnel?" And I always say, "Yeah, it avoids the toll." :lol:

[DunEdinRanger]

Ok the weight today is... 206.0

Accomplished by doing a lot of walking, 12 miles of running, and cutting back on late evening snacks.

[Gruder]

Should I keep trying to update, or will what ya'll are doin' supercede it?

Keep on updatin' here, but Jim and I thought everyone would like a place to carry on longer and off-topic conversations. That place is now our very own "locker room," and it's free for you to join here (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/group.php?groupid=11). Heck, there's even a place in the locker room for you to post pictures if you'd like!

Enjoy, and keep up the good work!

[professorchaos]

The B&B Gentleman's Athletic Club Locker Room = Very Cool.

Perhaps this is a good place to have WOTD threads? If no one minds, I will gladly create the first one.

[perry]

I joined the public group.

For the wiki updates, it looks like most are updating their entry for themselves. I'll assume everyone is doing their own, so if you need help doing the editing, then include something in your post asking for someone to update it for you.

Can the Wiki page and group be included in the first post of the thread?

[Gruder]

The B&B Gentleman's Athletic Club Locker Room = Very Cool.

Perhaps this is a good place to have WOTD threads? If no one minds, I will gladly create the first one.

Perfect. Thanks!


For the wiki updates, it looks like most are updating their entry for themselves. I'll assume everyone is doing their own, so if you need help doing the editing, then include something in your post asking for someone to update it for you.

Can the Wiki page and group be included in the first post of the thread?

Very kind of you perry. I'll look into amending the first post of this thread -- good idea.

[professorchaos]

The first of many (hopefully) WOTD threads can be found HERE (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/group.php?&do=discuss&groupid=11&discussionid=&gmid=86#gmessage86).

[Gruder]

Very kind of you perry. I'll look into amending the first post of this thread -- good idea.

Done. Thanks johnniegold!

All that group and post making surely must've burned a few calories, right? Right?

[Sullybob]

At a five miler I did a few years ago, in the middle of a torrential downpour at twilight, I passed a gentleman who said, "Tell my wife I love her very much." :lol: I never met the man before.

Thats really funny.


The first of many (hopefully) WOTD threads can be found HERE (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/group.php?&do=discuss&groupid=11&discussionid=&gmid=86#gmessage86).

Very nice. Thank you.


Keep on updatin' here, but Jim and I thought everyone would like a place to carry on longer and off-topic conversations. That place is now our very own "locker room," and it's free for you to join here (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/group.php?groupid=11). Heck, there's even a place in the locker room for you to post pictures if you'd like!

Enjoy, and keep up the good work!

That is awesome, thanks.

[Confuzius]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, down 5 lbs from Jan 9-16th :-)
Next weigh-in is on Friday

[SepticTank]

A muddy woodland odyssey today - 6.42km in 34 minutes. Hit 40.04km/h at one point (obviously not for long lol).

Yesterday 2.55km in 9 minutes, today 6.18km in 23 minutes again hitting 40.04km/h at one point - I must have hit some sort of limitation (wind resistance on my large frame perhaps)

[King of Kailua]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, down 5 lbs from Jan 9-16th :-) Next weigh-in is on Friday


I just realized I haven't weighed myself since christmas whence I was in full on celebration mode ((pie, cookies, roast beast))! I actually don't own one. I probably should invest in a bathroom scale. Anyone know how accurate they really are?

[Sullybob]

I just realized I haven't weighed myself since christmas whence I was in full on celebration mode ((pie, cookies, roast beast))! I actually don't own one. I probably should invest in a bathroom scale. Anyone know how accurate they really are?

Some are good and some are not so good.

I try and reference my scale with the scale in the Dr.'s office and any other scales I can step on. I'll weigh my self before going to the Dr's office and see what the difference, if any is.

We picked up a scale at Costco that also takes your body fat percentage. It factors in height/weight/sex and age. I don't know how accurate it is, but I use it as a base line.

[Gruder]

I just realized I haven't weighed myself since christmas whence I was in full on celebration mode ((pie, cookies, roast beast))! I actually don't own one. I probably should invest in a bathroom scale. Anyone know how accurate they really are?

I'm right there with you on the roast beast :wink:

As for scales, we have a bathroom version and whatever the wii fit tells me. I'm not so much concerned about accuracy as I am about using the same scale each day. I figure that even if the thing is five pounds off, a five pound loss is still a five pound loss. Personally, I'll save the fancy scale money for fancy shaving stuff. Of course, YMMV...

[King of Kailua]

Maybe I won't get a scale :confused:
The scale may actually be the biggest daily negative feedback loop in peoples lives. I can weigh myself at a doctors office or other locations with more accuracy than I can do at home. Besides that, my weight may not be as important to monitor as my BMI. Frankly, I haven't been thinking a lot about that either.

My main focus appears to be endurance in relation to aerobic potential and anaerobic threshold, applied strength potential as it relates to sports and athletic recreation (paddling, surfing, swimming), heart health and blood pressure, and my overall constitution, stamina and well being.

I guess the BLI (belt loop index) is in that equation somewhere.

[SepticTank]

Besides that, my weight may not be as important to monitor as my BMI.

Try working out this man's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonny_Wilkinson) or this man's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Habana) (His time for the 100 metres sprint has been recently confirmed as 10.2 seconds, as highlighted by the S.A.R.U) BMI - figures are there....

BMI don't work for everyone by a long chalk. Neither of them are unfit or unhealthy.

[King of Kailua]

...BMI - figures are there....

BMI don't work for everyone by a long chalk. Neither of them are unfit or unhealthy.

I couldn't find the BMI's but no matter. Stoked to see the Rugby links :thumbup1: THe Fox Soccer channel used to cover Rugby with Tri-Nations, and both New Zealand leagues, but alas no more. I haven't seen a good match since the 2007 Word Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Rugby_World_Cup). I love the All Blacks (http://www.allblacks.com/index.cfm). I think my favorite All Blacks where Joe Rokocoko (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlLhwQEOizI), and Carlos Spencer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouvVGoqEz8A).

Sorry 'bout all the links but you got me excited :rolleyes:

[SepticTank]

BMI's weren't there - the info to calculate them was though...

Jonny: 27.8 (overweight)
Bryan: 29.3 (overweight - bordering on obese)

Another one - Jonah Lomu - his BMI is 31.2

[SRock]

40 minutes of cardio, running on a treadmill, I hate treadmills!

[King of Kailua]

40 minutes of cardio, running on a treadmill, I hate treadmills!

I'm lovin' the treadmill! Having battered my body for so long, i.e. ripped out tendons in my knee and recovering from a spine injury, the stability and cuishioning of the mill has led to a rebirth of running for me. Thank you Epic View 550 (http://www.workoutwarehouse.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_-1_11301_12152_15549_50251?zmam=25171204&zmas=6&zmac=37&zmap=89)!

[Sullybob]

40 minutes of cardio, running on a treadmill, I hate treadmills!

I love treadmills. I have had lots of knee and ankle injuries so running on a treadmill does not hurt me like road work. I also like the ellipticals because they have very little impact.

Pre-injuries I didn't like them either, running through the woods was a joy.

[DunEdinRanger]

I love treadmills. I have had lots of knee and ankle injuries so running on a treadmill does not hurt me like road work. I also like the ellipticals because they have very little impact.

Pre-injuries I didn't like them either, running through the woods was a joy.

I call them Dread Mills! I can't wait to be out in the open again. For now, it is serving its purpose. Stopping me from getting fatter and more out of shape.

[King of Kailua]

running through the woods was a joy.

:frown: I miss that :redface:

Someday soon. :tongue_sm

[SRock]

I'm lovin' the treadmill! Having battered my body for so long, i.e. ripped out tendons in my knee and recovering from a spine injury, the stability and cuishioning of the mill has led to a rebirth of running for me. Thank you Epic View 550 (http://www.workoutwarehouse.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_-1_11301_12152_15549_50251?zmam=25171204&zmas=6&zmac=37&zmap=89)!

Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate the stress relief on the joints, but running on a treadmill makes me feel like a 180lb hamster. I just don't like not getting anywhere. There is great reward covering 4-6 miles or so and being able to see just how far you've gone.


I love treadmills. I have had lots of knee and ankle injuries so running on a treadmill does not hurt me like road work. I also like the ellipticals because they have very little impact.

Pre-injuries I didn't like them either, running through the woods was a joy.

Ellipticals are good for occasional cross training and when you have aches and pains. I agree, there. I just really like to run outside, be outside and get the visual feedback of the changing scenery.


I call them Dread Mills! I can't wait to be out in the open again. For now, it is serving its purpose. Stopping me from getting fatter and more out of shape.

+1

I can't wait to do a little trail running through the woods and along the beach here once it is warm enough.


:frown: I miss that :redface:

Someday soon. :tongue_sm

I hope so, best of luck!

[Gruder]

This week's BMI = 34.19 -- just a slight dip down since last week. Not great, but I'm okay with that given a three-day job interview/campus visit and the long weekend at home. Best of all, my wife and I resisted the temptation to dine out and/or cook fatty stuff. In those terms, progress!

[SepticTank]

6.54km through mud again today... I'm starting to find places I didn't know there were places whilst I'm out on the bike :smile: