The B&B Gentleman's Athletic Club

[Dan Forest]

I was diagnosed with diabetes in December of 2008 and because of my weight, I was also concerned about heart problems. I knew that I did not want to take any medications for either situation and did not want the consequences of having either or both problems, so I decided to "take control of my health".

I follow The Initial Phase Diet listed in the book titled The Fungus Link to Diabetes, written by Doug Kaufmann and David Holland. This book and others regarding fungus links to cancer and other issues, can be gotten at knowthecause.com. Another book that goes hand-in-hand with this information is The Rosedale Diet, which talks about the hormone, Leptin, which controls body energy and which affects the persons ability to lose fat if the person is Leptin resistant. If a person is Leptin resistant, they are usually Insulin resistant as well. All my sweet cravings stopped after the forth day on this program and I'm getting my energy for life back.

January 01, 2009 6'2" 358.8 lbs BMI 46.1

January 21, 2009 6'2" 343.9 lbs BMI 44.1



That's a "Me Too"..
After a heart attack and having my knees wear out from osteo arthritis and over use (I'm too young for replacements), I've put on the tonnage I've kept off for forty years:frown: I always relied on exercise and a high protein diet. Now I have gout which limits my protein intake.:eek:
I'm not sure what I'll do, but you can bet I'll do something constructive.:wink:
Ken.

On page 137, of the book The Fungus Link to Diabetes, it states that the World Health Organization have linked fungi to gout (the very painful variety of arthritis). The book also makes connection of heart disease to fungus.

[Gruder]

All my sweet cravings stopped after the forth day on this program and I'm getting my energy for life back.

Hearty congratulations, and definite thanks for sharing this information. I'll have to look into it. I envy your BMI progress -- keep up the good work!

[professorchaos]

Anyone else think we should post a thread containing a link to the WOTD thread here in the Barber Shop? It is kind of invisible right now - I had hoped it would encourage others to exercise or at least not skip training too often.

[King of Kailua]

Anyone else think we should post a thread containing a link to the WOTD thread here in the Barber Shop? It is kind of invisible right now - I had hoped it would encourage others to exercise or at least not skip training too often.

I'm all for the broadest appeal to B&B that a WOTD thread could bring. It may even expand the membership of our "exclusive" :cool: athletic club. As it is now, the WOTD thread is a bit insulated and the thread tools of a group post are limited. Maybe a mod could move the WOTD out into the "real world" for us.

[Sullybob]

Anyone else think we should post a thread containing a link to the WOTD thread here in the Barber Shop? It is kind of invisible right now - I had hoped it would encourage others to exercise or at least not skip training too often.

I was thinking along those same lines. I was also thinking that we could add a link as part of our signature. I find it a pain to navigate to our club.


I'm all for the broadest appeal to B&B that a WOTD thread could bring. It may even expand the membership of our "exclusive" :cool: athletic club. As it is now, the WOTD thread is a bit insulated and the thread tools of a group post are limited. Maybe a mod could move the WOTD out into the "real world" for us.

Its fun having the WOTD in the club house its just that the only way to see it is to go to the club house and you have to be a member. Maybe having it out in the open would be a better option to encourage more people to participate.

[Gruder]

I was thinking along those same lines. I was also thinking that we could add a link as part of our signature. I find it a pain to navigate to our club.

I think I like this idea best. A separate WOTD thread would be still another place to go. The sig line idea promotes the use of social groups wherever we go on the site, which is an added bonus I think would be helpful to the site right now anyway since the social group thing is so new to us.

What if we all went with a sig line like:
Proud member of the BBGAC: Join us! (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=69650) Post your workouts here! (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/group.php?groupid=11)

(Which you can enter with this code -- just remove the space after each bracket.)
[ COLOR="DarkGreen"]Proud member of the BBGAC: [ URL="http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=69650"][ COLOR="Red"]Join us![ /COLOR][ /URL] [ COLOR="Blue"]Post your workouts [ URL="http://badgerandblade.com/vb/group.php?groupid=11"]here![ /COLOR][ /URL][ /COLOR]

[Sullybob]

I think I like this idea best. A separate WOTD thread would be still another place to go. The sig line idea promotes the use of social groups wherever we go on the site, which is an added bonus I think would be helpful to the site right now anyway since the social group thing is so new to us.

What if we all went with a sig line like:
Proud member of the BBGAC: Join us! (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=69650) Post your workouts here! (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/group.php?groupid=11)

(Which you can enter with this code -- just remove the space after each bracket.)
[ COLOR="DarkGreen"]Proud member of the BBGAC: [ URL="http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=69650"][ COLOR="Red"]Join us![ /COLOR][ /URL] [ COLOR="Blue"]Post your workouts [ URL="http://badgerandblade.com/vb/group.php?groupid=11"]here![ /COLOR][ /URL][ /COLOR]

Thats awesome Chad. Thanks for making so it easy even a cave man can do it!

[professorchaos]

Thats awesome Chad. Thanks for making so it easy even a cave man can do it!

Yes, thank you Chad. It will be in my signature henceforth!

[Mrs. Chip]

I really like the idea of this thread. I admit I haven't read it all but I have been trying to get back into my bikini for this summer, so loose 10+ lbs. I lost 45 lbs a while ago and want to start exerciseing ....something I don't do.

I found free online videos last night and tried two 10 min ones today...loved them! I've been sharing them with everyone I can think of.

http://www.exercisetv.tv/
I did the Cardio Core one and Sexy Beach Abs. There are 1.50 to 60 min vids and they are all FREE!

(Had to share, sorry if this isn't what you guys wanted in here)

[Gruder]

I really like the idea of this thread. I admit I haven't read it all but I have been trying to get back into my bikini for this summer, so loose 10+ lbs. I lost 45 lbs a while ago and want to start exerciseing ....something I don't do.

I found free online videos last night and tried two 10 min ones today...loved them! I've been sharing them with everyone I can think of.

http://www.exercisetv.tv/
I did the Cardio Core one and Sexy Beach Abs. There are 1.50 to 60 min vids and they are all FREE!

(Had to share, sorry if this isn't what you guys wanted in here)

Actually, it's a perfect addition. Welcome! What did you find most helpful whilst losing the 45 lbs? (And sadly, I'm still just a whisker away from "sexy beach abs" myself :tongue:).

[professorchaos]

I really like the idea of this thread. I admit I haven't read it all but I have been trying to get back into my bikini for this summer, so loose 10+ lbs. I lost 45 lbs a while ago and want to start exerciseing ....something I don't do.

I found free online videos last night and tried two 10 min ones today...loved them! I've been sharing them with everyone I can think of.

http://www.exercisetv.tv/
I did the Cardio Core one and Sexy Beach Abs. There are 1.50 to 60 min vids and they are all FREE!

(Had to share, sorry if this isn't what you guys wanted in here)

Welcome! Join the club!

[Mrs. Chip]

I did the Weight Watcher's program for a while, 4 or 5 months, lost 20lbs then life took over but I maintained. After we got married I went on again and lost the last 25. The thing with it is that I was able to do it without excercising and that is NOT what was suposted to happen. I hit a plateau and couldn't get past it so all efforts ended.

The ab video is more about back strength, which is what I relly need. lol, I have alot of laundry on the wash board to get rid of...please don't get the idea I am in that great of shape. I have 25 lbs to loose before my BMI, which I hate the idea of, before I am in the top of my healthy weight range.

I still like me though, that is a very important thing to learn to do.

[Sullybob]

I did the Weight Watcher's program for a while, 4 or 5 months, lost 20lbs then life took over but I maintained. After we got married I went on again and lost the last 25. The thing with it is that I was able to do it without excercising and that is NOT what was suposted to happen. I hit a plateau and couldn't get past it so all efforts ended.

The ab video is more about back strength, which is what I relly need. lol, I have alot of laundry on the wash board to get rid of...please don't get the idea I am in that great of shape. I have 25 lbs to loose before my BMI, which I hate the idea of, before I am in the top of my healthy weight range.

I still like me though, that is a very important thing to learn to do.

You got married and then lost another 25 pounds? That is great. I think usually it's the other way around. At least it was for me. I got married and then had regular meals that also tasted good.

Welcome to the club.

[rabidpotatochip]

I did the Weight Watcher's program for a while, 4 or 5 months, lost 20lbs then life took over but I maintained. After we got married I went on again and lost the last 25. The thing with it is that I was able to do it without excercising and that is NOT what was suposted to happen. I hit a plateau and couldn't get past it so all efforts ended.

The ab video is more about back strength, which is what I relly need. lol, I have alot of laundry on the wash board to get rid of...please don't get the idea I am in that great of shape. I have 25 lbs to loose before my BMI, which I hate the idea of, before I am in the top of my healthy weight range.

I still like me though, that is a very important thing to learn to do.

I still like you too. :tongue:

Since you pointed me to this thread (from across the house) I have to add that the support of those around you, particularly those you cohabitate with, is essential to losing weight. It doesn't work if one of you is eating a ton of vegetables while the other is chewing on a burger. Since I supported her (read: ate about the same things she did) I also lost 45lb. :biggrin:

Edit: By the way, that beach abs video is a killer if you haven't exercised as much as you should have for a few years. :wink:

[Mrs. Chip]

You got married and then lost another 25 pounds? That is great. I think usually it's the other way around. At least it was for me. I got married and then had regular meals that also tasted good.

Welcome to the club.

It was needed, I felt horrible and didn't want to put my body through children feeling like that (no, no children and not expecting)

I changed to cooking more actually, we eat almost no pre-prepared foods and no instant stuff.

[rabidpotatochip]

I guess I'll make my goals public in this thread too...

I'm aiming to drop another ~10lb, back down to my lowest weight of 183lb. I'm about 6'4 and at 192lb currently. My main goal to at least stop the gain is so I don't have to buy new pants for a while and to make sure my tighter shirts look good again.

I've found the best way (for me) to exercise is in my own home. The fact that I'm spending $50/month on a gym membership does nothing to motivate me. I've broken pretty much every bone in my leg so I can't use many machines anyway. At home, the most I spend is $20 on a workout DVD so I don't feel bad if I stop for a while. Mrs. Chip recently found that exerciseTV site and we tried it out tonight. That will probably be what we follow until I can handle some of the heavier training. She handled it better than I did in fact. :blushing:

Anyway, that's my intro to this thread.

[Sullybob]

snip...
I've found the best way (for me) to exercise is in my own home. The fact that I'm spending $50/month on a gym membership does nothing to motivate me.
...snip


You just said something that is key. Find what works best for you and do it. If you don't enjoy it your not going to stick to it.

[SRock]

I guess I'll make my goals public in this thread too...

I'm aiming to drop another ~10lb, back down to my lowest weight of 183lb. I'm about 6'4 and at 192lb currently. My main goal to at least stop the gain is so I don't have to buy new pants for a while and to make sure my tighter shirts look good again.

I've found the best way (for me) to exercise is in my own home. The fact that I'm spending $50/month on a gym membership does nothing to motivate me. I've broken pretty much every bone in my leg so I can't use many machines anyway. At home, the most I spend is $20 on a workout DVD so I don't feel bad if I stop for a while. Mrs. Chip recently found that exerciseTV site and we tried it out tonight. That will probably be what we follow until I can handle some of the heavier training. She handled it better than I did in fact. :blushing:

Anyway, that's my intro to this thread.


At 6'4" and ONLY 192 you probably already look like you are in good shape? For your height that's not bad at all. Why the push to lose more weight?

[rabidpotatochip]

You just said something that is key. Find what works best for you and do it. If you don't enjoy it your not going to stick to it.

You just said something that's key as well. :wink:

Out of almost everyone we know who's decided to lose weight, we're the only ones that followed through for more than two weeks and didn't give up for that period where it seemed to go up no matter what we did. Anyway, I agree that the hardest part is maintaining intrinsic motivation.

One good tactic I planned with my father and a family friend was to put $200 each in an envelope. Whoever lost 20lb first got the envelope. Unfortunately, they realized I would kick their asses. hehe

[rabidpotatochip]

At 6'4" and ONLY 192 you probably already look like you are in good shape? For your height that's not bad at all. Why the push to lose more weight?

I just happen to be a long person. I'm definitely satisfied with my appearance, but I looked/felt better at 182-185. I maintained that range for nearly a year and feel it's my ideal weight. Of course, my main goal after maintaining pant size is feeling in shape and being in shape rather than just looking it. :wink:

[SRock]

I just happen to be a long person. I'm definitely satisfied with my appearance, but I looked/felt better at 182-185. I maintained that range for nearly a year and feel it's my ideal weight. Of course, my main goal after maintaining pant size is feeling in shape and being in shape rather than just looking it. :wink:

That is what it's all about, where you feel best. I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. I'm only about 5'6" tall and anything under 170-175 and I start to feel/look sickly. I spent so many years bulking up and adding muscle that now I have to carry a bit more than is probably ideal. That is why I no longer lift heavy and focus on cardio.

[AdamB]

Well, as I'm saving up $ for shaving goodies, I'll join in on the barber shop / althletic club fun :tongue:

The last few years I've gained some pretty poor eating habits and it's showed itself in my gut and my general appearance. I finally had enough after poor blood work results and overall feeling of blah :tongue_sm

Just over two weeks ago I measured my gut at 39 inches (gut, not my waist as that doesn't really count). I'm 5'8" and weighed 185.5lbs when I started. Go figure that my routine took me up to 189lbs after 2 weeks of working out and re-arranging my diet (adjusting my diet again today to help with some weight loss). I've been working out 5-6 days a week. The workout's vary between strengh training with supersets and cardio. Most are about 50 minutes. I do them at night as it's my only free time (two young boys doesn't really leave time in the mornings or during the day). My garage is set up with free weights, a bench, push up and pull up bars, bands, and a portable DVD player for cardio routines.

My goal is to eventually get down to about around 167lbs or 170lbs. I've not set a real time frame but am hoping for the next 5-6 months. If it takes longer, that is fine. In for the long haul.

I'll come back and update periodically with both my failures and accomplishments. :thumbup1:

[KenS]

I was diagnosed with diabetes in December of 2008 and because of my weight, I was also concerned about heart problems. I knew that I did not want to take any medications for either situation and did not want the consequences of having either or both problems, so I decided to "take control of my health".

I follow The Initial Phase Diet listed in the book titled The Fungus Link to Diabetes, written by Doug Kaufmann and David Holland. This book and others regarding fungus links to cancer and other issues, can be gotten at knowthecause.com. Another book that goes hand-in-hand with this information is The Rosedale Diet, which talks about the hormone, Leptin, which controls body energy and which affects the persons ability to lose fat if the person is Leptin resistant. If a person is Leptin resistant, they are usually Insulin resistant as well. All my sweet cravings stopped after the forth day on this program and I'm getting my energy for life back.

January 01, 2009 6'2" 358.8 lbs BMI 46.1

January 21, 2009 6'2" 343.9 lbs BMI 44.1




On page 137, of the book The Fungus Link to Diabetes, it states that the World Health Organization have linked fungi to gout (the very painful variety of arthritis). The book also makes connection of heart disease to fungus.

Thanks Dan,
That looks like an interesting book. I'll be going to our public library to see if a copy is available..

In the meantime, I have conducted an archaeological dig, and uncovered our home gym, and had three light upper body workouts.. Getting back into resistance training is where I'll be heading for the next while. I'll probably try to walk and use the treadmill as my pain level allows.
Ken.

[Gruder]

A warm welcome Adam, both to B&B and to the GAC -- thanks for checking in. You may definitely enjoy the workout of the day part of the social group (if you haven't found it yet) -- a link in in my sig line below.

Oh, and welcome to you too Chip. I'd imagined you being shorter (must be the ctrusy hat). (Anyone else get mental images of folks on B&B?) And no worries, I'm sure you'll have those beach abs in no time!

[SepticTank]

6.54km through mud again today... I'm starting to find places I didn't know there were places whilst I'm out on the bike :smile:

Another 6.23km today - hit a new top speed of 42.99km/h too :eek:

[sol92258]

1 cup - quick oats
1/8 c - brown sugar
1/8 c - olive oil
1/8 c - honey

mix well
15-20 minutes in 325 degree oven
let cool
enjoy

(really good in yogurt)

[bishop]

I'm getting in late, but I like the idea of this thread.

My wife & I have been going to our local rec center on & off for several months, and over Christmas break, I started hitting it regularly. I coupled that with a commitment to wake up early each day (5:00 weekdays, 7:00 weekends). I've never felt better.

I am currently 6'5", 228lb, and a 38-40" waist. I've never been grossly overweight, but I can tell when I'm putting on excess pounds by looking at my face and checking out my midsection profile in the mirror. Since exercising, I've noticed some strange things.


My midsection is trimming up, but my pants don't seem to be as loose as the profile in the mirror would suggest.
I have clearly lost fat elsewhere, but my weight has gone up.
My face and neck have shaped up nicely, but my shirt collars (when buttoned) are still pretty snug.


Would all these things be caused by replacing fat with muscle? My exercise routine is 2 miles on the elliptical machine and a substantial round of weight machines. I've definitely added muscle, and I'm fine with exchanging fat pounds/inches for muscle pounds/inches. Just seems strange to me.

I'd also be curious to know your thoughts on the ideal weight for a 6'+ tall guy. I've never compared. I have no idea where I "should" be.

[rabidpotatochip]

I'm getting in late, but I like the idea of this thread.

My wife & I have been going to our local rec center on & off for several months, and over Christmas break, I started hitting it regularly. I coupled that with a commitment to wake up early each day (5:00 weekdays, 7:00 weekends). I've never felt better.

I am currently 6'5", 228lb, and a 38-40" waist. I've never been grossly overweight, but I can tell when I'm putting on excess pounds by looking at my face and checking out my midsection profile in the mirror. Since exercising, I've noticed some strange things.


My midsection is trimming up, but my pants don't seem to be as loose as the profile in the mirror would suggest.
I have clearly lost fat elsewhere, but my weight has gone up.
My face and neck have shaped up nicely, but my shirt collars (when buttoned) are still pretty snug.


Would all these things be caused by replacing fat with muscle? My exercise routine is 2 miles on the elliptical machine and a substantial round of weight machines. I've definitely added muscle, and I'm fine with exchanging fat pounds/inches for muscle pounds/inches. Just seems strange to me.

I'd also be curious to know your thoughts on the ideal weight for a 6'+ tall guy. I've never compared. I have no idea where I "should" be.

I can't comment on point number 1, but I can give some insight on points 2 and 3.

Muscle is more dense than fat, so you get more weight in a smaller volume. as for your shirts, it's possible you're putting on enough muscle that the size of your neck hasn't changed once the fat came off it.

As for your weight, I'm 6'4" and currently weigh 192 with a 30-32" waist, depending on brand of pants. I used to weigh 225 with a 38" waist and blamed the pants. :wink: Anyway, I think somewhere in the mid-180s to mid-190s is a good weight for someone of our size, but YMMV. What you'll find at some point is that your physique changes, and that's what you should base your results on. The scale just gives you numbers and those can be useless. Just keep working at it till you get the results you're after.

[perry]

Date Weight
01/01/09 - 254
01/08/09 - 254
01/15/09 - 253
01/22/09 - 253

:rolleyes:

[bishop]

I can't comment on point number 1, but I can give some insight on points 2 and 3.

Muscle is more dense than fat, so you get more weight in a smaller volume. as for your shirts, it's possible you're putting on enough muscle that the size of your neck hasn't changed once the fat came off it.

That's very helpful, and I think it explains what's going on. I may find some inches going away in the near future. I still have enough "padding" to work off.


As for your weight, I'm 6'4" and currently weigh 192 with a 30-32" waist, depending on brand of pants. I used to weigh 225 with a 38" waist and blamed the pants. :wink: Anyway, I think somewhere in the mid-180s to mid-190s is a good weight for someone of our size, but YMMV. What you'll find at some point is that your physique changes, and that's what you should base your results on. The scale just gives you numbers and those can be useless. Just keep working at it till you get the results you're after.

I used to weigh around 195 when I was younger, and in those photos, my wife says I look sickly. I tend to agree. But according to a few BMI calculators, that's a correct range. I'm technically overweight. That's very odd to me. If I replace fat with muscle and remain at 228, I'll still be overweight. Look at the stats on football & basketball players. I figure that if a guy of my weight and height can play college sports and be in good shape, I don't have much to worry about.

[Sullybob]

Another 6.23km today - hit a new top speed of 42.99km/h too :eek:

That is fast!

Some of us are posting the work out of the day in the social group area, kind of like a SOTD. There is a link in my sig. You should come on over. We have really nice lockers and couches.

[Terry Awhile]

Gents,

Please believe, I am still around, too. Not being a lazy winter splooge (well).

I am studying for an exam and fully expect to start smoking some of y'all in the next few weeks.

To be fair, I will post my post test measurements, and, the technique I propose to get to the "Pitt".


I though I would share my favorite fitness quote---it's from Fight Club:

"when a guy first comes to fight club, his ass is a wad of cookie dough. After a few weeks?....he's carved out of wood".

and...

"Is that what a man looks like? (says a skinny Mr. Hollywood Brad Pitt for irony points, gesturing to an "ad")....We felt bad for guys, pouring themselves into gyms, trying to look the way Calvin Klein or Tommy Hifilger told them they should look"



And, Fincher is right in the questions he asks in the film....following other men is not right----and its apt, in fitness.

What is good for your body, is good for your body. Eating comfort food feels great. So does collapsing in a pool of sweat, feeling great trying to make that rep, or weight, or distance. Only one has nothing to do with knowing you tried.

Personally, I think one of the biggest achievements in fitness is stepping into the gym, or wherever, and doing something you have never tried before. If it feels good, do it----and keep doing it, and do it as personal challenges. Not because Mens Health tells you to do 8 reps. Do 40 of light weights, if that's what would get the heart up today. And, then, do heavy squats the next day. And then, run.

Or work out on an empty stomach, then run a few miles. Screw protein, and feck the fitness industry. We give enough of our lives to industry. How dare we sell our bodies back to them?

Just keep moving, and feel yourself, in your body, doing it. Be healthy, and keep pushing.

RESULTS WILL HAPPEN. RESULTS WILL HAPPEN.

Shake off the magazines, and the TV. Do whatever feels good, as long as it doesn't hurt anybody.

Including things that would hurt you.

Then, once you start seeing the results, you have my permission to get an expensive haircut, and a bottle of Avignon.

Cheers fellas, see you soon!

[rabidpotatochip]

That's very helpful, and I think it explains what's going on. I may find some inches going away in the near future. I still have enough "padding" to work off.



I used to weigh around 195 when I was younger, and in those photos, my wife says I look sickly. I tend to agree. But according to a few BMI calculators, that's a correct range. I'm technically overweight. That's very odd to me. If I replace fat with muscle and remain at 228, I'll still be overweight. Look at the stats on football & basketball players. I figure that if a guy of my weight and height can play college sports and be in good shape, I don't have much to worry about.

Like I said, the scale's only good for giving numbers. As long as you eat well and look well you probably are well. :biggrin:

[SRock]

That's very helpful, and I think it explains what's going on. I may find some inches going away in the near future. I still have enough "padding" to work off.

I used to weigh around 195 when I was younger, and in those photos, my wife says I look sickly. I tend to agree. But according to a few BMI calculators, that's a correct range. I'm technically overweight. That's very odd to me. If I replace fat with muscle and remain at 228, I'll still be overweight. Look at the stats on football & basketball players. I figure that if a guy of my weight and height can play college sports and be in good shape, I don't have much to worry about.

BMI can be very deceptive. When I was a heavy weight lifter, years ago, I got my body fat % down to around 4%. However because I am short, 5'6" and was carrying around 175 -180lbs of muscle my BMI indicated that I was morbidly obese. 4% body fat and I was obese? Like many others have said, it really comes down to how you look and more importantly how you feel. At that point in my life I could bench press over 325lbs and run 2 miles in under 12 minutes. I’d love to be in that kind of shape now.

[SRock]

Thursday 22 Jan 09

I ran 3.5 miles up and down hills (hill training program on the treadmill) in 29 minutes. It kicked my butt!

[Terry Awhile]

How do I join the group?

[DunEdinRanger]

Apparently, one of my colleagues ambushed a Little Debbie's truck and those mini donuts and marshmallow filled oatmeal raisin cookies mysteriously found their ways to my desk.

They fulfilled their destiny. They met their fate.

Now I must make amends and work out more!

[SRock]

Apparently, one of my colleagues ambushed a Little Debbie's truck and those mini donuts and marshmallow filled oatmeal raisin cookies mysteriously found their ways to my desk.

They fulfilled their destiny. They met their fate.

Now I must make amends and work out more!

I hate it when that happens! :lol:

[King of Kailua]

How do I join the group?

Drop and give me twenty!! :biggrin:

Become a proud member of the BBGAC: Join us! (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=69650) Post your workouts here! (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/group.php?groupid=11)

[Terry Awhile]

Twenty blades?

If they are dorcos or merkurs, they're all yours, dude!

[bishop]

Excellent points, chaps. Numbers are often deceptive. Thank you.

[Confuzius]

Date Weight BMI
1/9/09 249 32.18
1/16/09 244 31.54
1/23/09 239 30.89

Yay!

[SepticTank]

Another 6.23km today - hit a new top speed of 42.99km/h too :eek:

Low impact today - apart from uphill going out and uphill coming home :lol:

2.56km in 9 mins (including stopping to give the Tesco delivery man some directions to the right *village* where he'd be in with a chance of finding the right street)

[Gruder]

How do I join the group?

Click on "join us" in my signature, below. Then click on "join group" at the bottom of that page above the site time stamp/clock. Welcome!



Date Weight BMI
1/9/09 249 32.18
1/16/09 244 31.54
1/23/09 239 30.89

Yay!

Nice! (And particularly well-paced!)

[Confuzius]

Stopping eating all the Christmas junk makes the first few lbs fall off quite easily, it's going to get harder come Feb/march.
To hit my BMI target of 24.9 or less I need to get down to 193. Although all of those weights are taken at work, so I'm fully clothed and wearing shoes. I was ~234 this morning on the scale at home with no man made articles bringing up my tally.

[Sullybob]

Thursday 22 Jan 09

I ran 3.5 miles up and down hills (hill training program on the treadmill) in 29 minutes. It kicked my butt!

The hill program certainly keeps things interesting. Especially when you see the hill coming and it looks like a cliff.


Apparently, one of my colleagues ambushed a Little Debbie's truck and those mini donuts and marshmallow filled oatmeal raisin cookies mysteriously found their ways to my desk.

They fulfilled their destiny. They met their fate.

Now I must make amends and work out more!

The best part about Little Debbies is that when you bite into them you can feel the sugar crystals. I love em.


Date Weight BMI
1/9/09 249 32.18
1/16/09 244 31.54
1/23/09 239 30.89

Yay!

Great progress. Very nice numbers.

[A3M0N]

Hey, I needs back in shape as well. I was in pretty good shape when I joined the Air Force, and was in shape after and during tech school. Now back with my family and at my first base, fitness has gone down a lot. I work on the flight line, so our hours don't allow for the usual mandatory PT time, so it falls on ourselves to stay in shape. I've dropped that ball already. Here is my current info:

6'1"
198 lbs.
20% BF
BMI: 26.1

I was 180 lbs and like 16% BF after basic training. Not sure if I want to be way down to 180 again, I looked sick to me. But 185ish seems good. I hope to start next week (Mon), but I'm back on dayshift for some classes, so it may not work out. Thanks for this thread!

[yardpup01]

Well I've added tilapia and salmon to my diet, along with smaller portions. We'll see how that goes. Snacking less and eating oatmeal every morning. Updates later this week.

[DunEdinRanger]

Bad Week. I blame it on the Little Debbie's. 207.2

[King of Kailua]

Awesome weekend :biggrin:

Saturday 24 January

O`Shaughnessy's / Pineula Va`a East Hawaii Challenge (http://www.hawaiipaddling.com/pdf/Puna.pdf).

Richardson's Beach Park (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.letsgo-hawaii.com/beaches/richardson1206_03c4.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.letsgo-hawaii.com/beaches/richardsons.html&usg=__R8arHAZJHECGG1Hjx9yvGyRQZdg=&h=300&w=450&sz=54&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=OP2Mo6hKCXoUbM:&tbnh=85&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3DRichardson%2527s%2BBeach%2BPark%26um% 3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dsafari%26rls %3Den-us%26sa%3DN) ~ Hilo Bay (http://www.hawaiiweb.com/Hawaii/html/sites/hilo_bay.html)

There was a north and east swell running on Saturday which made for a great bunch of waves pushing from behind us for most of the race. Those conditions are what my boat loves; open downwind swells and surfing. 1/3 into the race and I saw three people capsize, one guy was right on the crest of a roller when he lost control and over he went. Another fellow not 25 yards in front of me almost got T-boned by a humpback whale that came up to spout!!! The Hilo break wall (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a1/Hilo.JPG) was wedging the swell and I felt brave so I ran up close to the foam and spray (and rocks!) to see if I could get some rides. Bravery paid off! I passed a gaggle as they labored outside the force of the wall's action. Turning into Hilo Bay and going under the Wailoa river bridge to round for home, things flattened out and my boat started to feel big and heavy. The smaller boats had an advantage here. I finished well though. As soon as I see some results or pictures, I'll post um.

The cardio work has paid off in spades because I felt great after this race. I drank two cold Steinlagers, had a nice hawaiian plate lunch and after sitting on the beach with my fellow competitor's and friends, I was soon staring at the ocean again longingly. I couldn't take it any longer. I went back out again and paddled the Stan Cann long course (http://www.hawaiipaddling.com/pdf/StanCann.pdf) which was really catching the swell by Honoli'i (http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/3668590.jpg) and down the coastline. I surfed down to the Hilo Bay front and surfed there for about an hour longer. A whole day with the OC-1!! :w00t:

WOTD notes: Raced the short course still being conservative in my recovery and bit tentative towards my neck and back. But I felt great! It was nice to have a break after the race, drink some beers, have lunch, and then go out for more action and surfing while hearing from fellow competitors about how spent and gassed out they felt after this race. Cardio workouts, my secret weapon!

[Gruder]

Welcome to all the new folks over the weekend -- good luck!

Did the wii weigh-in this morning. Despite my assumptions, apparently I actually lost a pound and a half this weekend. We had a long-scheduled dinner party that I figured would throw the weekend out the window, but who knows -- maybe this moderation thing is starting to enter my subconscious. :smile:

[SepticTank]

Low impact today - apart from uphill going out and uphill coming home :lol:

2.56km in 9 mins (including stopping to give the Tesco delivery man some directions to the right *village* where he'd be in with a chance of finding the right street)

Yesterday - a swift round the block (twice) testing the anti-wet-bottom device (aka rear crud catcher) - 1.27km in not very long at all.

Today 8.20km in sub-zero frost, fog, frozen puddles - in 28 mins. It's soooooo much more enjoyable when your butt doesn't get cold and wet :lol:

Thighs on fire after they defrosted - the cold numbed the throb - the post-ride shower sorted that :eek:

[sol92258]

I have some updates to do...been getting bad readings on the scale, found the battery to be low (I really don't like electronic scales)
I didn't notice since I'd only step on once and go.
my wife decided to try to weigh her puppy, so she stepped on, got a weight, held the puppy and weighed again - 5 pounds lighter! tried again, 10 pounds heavier! so, I've got to start over again with new starting weight, I'm not happy about since it's higher than previous, and I've lost some weight already, so I won't be able to count it!
oh well, it's not many opportunities you get to say you lost 12.5 pounds in 8 seconds! :lol:

my statement from another thread...I will have to restart my with my weigh-in since there's no way to go back and see if previous weights were accurate :frown:

so, this AM, 293.4, checked twice, same reading.

[King of Kailua]

Welcome everybody! Enjoy the Journey! :thumbup:

:a43::a43::a43::a43::a43::a43::a43::a43::a43::a43: :a43::a53:
:jump::jump::jump::jump:

[PKHammer]

Checking in here. Tipping the scales at 183 this morning. Surprised as I cheated more than once this weekend. Just need to get past this week, going to a conference in Greensboro, so hopefully I won't cheat too much there.

[DunEdinRanger]

2 mile run on the dreadmill after work.

[SepticTank]

5.07km in 17' today - new top speed of 43.38km/h - 76km done since I started... now if only I had the stamina to do it all in one go :biggrin: (I probably would have on the flat but that's in short supply around here)

[rigglet]

I just found this post and I want in. :001_smile

I am nearly 40, 6' 4" and weigh 259 as of yesterday. I started back hard and heavy at the gym the first of this year and have dropped 3 pounds so far. Not a huge change, but I'm on track for my goal (30 pounds by the end of the year). I want the change to be something I can live with long term. I've dropped 20-30 pounds on previous attempts with just diets, but then when I attempt to go back to "normal" eating all the weight comes back.

I'm always looking for ways to keep myself on track and to be held accountable, so this should be good.

Thanks guys!

[Gruder]

Welcome PKHammer and riglet -- best of luck to you both! Be sure to join the social group if you'd like (links in my sig line).

[rabidpotatochip]

I just found this post and I want in. :001_smile

I am nearly 40, 6' 4" and weigh 259 as of yesterday. I started back hard and heavy at the gym the first of this year and have dropped 3 pounds so far. Not a huge change, but I'm on track for my goal (30 pounds by the end of the year). I want the change to be something I can live with long term. I've dropped 20-30 pounds on previous attempts with just diets, but then when I attempt to go back to "normal" eating all the weight comes back.

I'm always looking for ways to keep myself on track and to be held accountable, so this should be good.

Thanks guys!

I'm not picking on you, just taking something you said as an opportunity to highlight something important: diets don't work.

If you just go on a diet till you lose the weight you'll never get to keep the results. If you want to lose weight and/or get in shape and stay that way you have to change your entire lifestyle. If you're just going to change your habits till your weight changes and go back to them later you might as well not start.

35 pounds ago (and it should be 45 pounds, gah!) I was eating too many snacks, drinking too many soft drinks and eating too much, even of the good stuff. The only reason most of that weight has stayed off after losing it is because I haven't gone back to my old habits; I've created new and better habits that allow me to maintain what I worked so hard to achieve. I still snack every now and then and still eat greasy food here and there, but it's not as often as I used to before I started losing weight.

If I went back to eating the way I used to I would weigh as much as I used to, and I don't want that. I've watched most of the people around me try to lose weight but my wife and I are the only ones who have had any success because we committed to a permanent lifestyle change. Losing the weight is easier than the hell of keeping it off, trust me on this. It took a month to get used to eating healthy and seeing the scale drop, but it took nearly half a year to get used to keeping the number the same.

[rabidpotatochip]

I try not to double post but I wanted this to be separate from my previous one.

If Mrs. Chip and I exercise tonight we've officially worked out for a full week. My weight's staying steady but I feel better and think I look better, so I consider it a success. Every night we hook her laptop up to the TV and work out to one of those ExerciseTV.tv videos online. We've found some pretty good ones and I would definitely recommend checking them out based on our experience with them.

When I have money next month I'll probably end up buying a few; it's still cheaper than a gym pass. :biggrin:

[sol92258]

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/funny-pictures-cat-ponders-his-new-years-resolutions1.jpg

[rigglet]

I'm not picking on you, just taking something you said as an opportunity to highlight something important: diets don't work.

If you just go on a diet till you lose the weight you'll never get to keep the results. If you want to lose weight and/or get in shape and stay that way you have to change your entire lifestyle. If you're just going to change your habits till your weight changes and go back to them later you might as well not start.

35 pounds ago (and it should be 45 pounds, gah!) I was eating too many snacks, drinking too many soft drinks and eating too much, even of the good stuff. The only reason most of that weight has stayed off after losing it is because I haven't gone back to my old habits; I've created new and better habits that allow me to maintain what I worked so hard to achieve. I still snack every now and then and still eat greasy food here and there, but it's not as often as I used to before I started losing weight.

If I went back to eating the way I used to I would weigh as much as I used to, and I don't want that. I've watched most of the people around me try to lose weight but my wife and I are the only ones who have had any success because we committed to a permanent lifestyle change. Losing the weight is easier than the hell of keeping it off, trust me on this. It took a month to get used to eating healthy and seeing the scale drop, but it took nearly half a year to get used to keeping the number the same.

I completely agree and now looking back at my post I realize I didn't finish my thought. You have done that nicely for me. :thumbup1:

I have made a fairly drastic change to my lifestyle which includes dietary changes, and exercise. I want this to be something I can stick with for a long time coming. I'm definitely not looking for a "quick fix".

[rabidpotatochip]

I completely agree and now looking back at my post I realize I didn't finish my thought. You have done that nicely for me. :thumbup1:

I have made a fairly drastic change to my lifestyle which includes dietary changes, and exercise. I want this to be something I can stick with for a long time coming. I'm definitely not looking for a "quick fix".

Good luck and all the best with it. And remember, if you can't live long, at least live well. :biggrin:

[bishop]

I'm definitely gaining muscle mass. I'm up to 231 and my pants are still fitting great.

[lonestar]

congrats to you guys for sticking with this. i bought a bike a few years back for the same reason. will tell you that even with a couple thousand miles a year, diet (read - limited portions) combined with the exercise is the ticket.

keep up the good work!

[SepticTank]

5.07km in 17' today - new top speed of 43.38km/h - 76km done since I started... now if only I had the stamina to do it all in one go :biggrin: (I probably would have on the flat but that's in short supply around here)

6.38km in 22 mins - new milestone passed - 50 miles up since Jan 7th

[DunEdinRanger]

No running today, but did shovel snow for about an hour.

[King of Kailua]

Paddled today, but not too hard. My necks a little sore.

Are you folks bonking on the WOTD threads? :confused:

[perry]

Date Weight
01/01/09 - 254
01/08/09 - 254
01/15/09 - 253
01/22/09 - 253
01/29/09 - 251


Progress..

[SepticTank]

Are you folks bonking on the WOTD threads? :confused:

That has a whole different meaning this side of the pond :w00t:

For me the more public I make the exercise record the more likely I am to continue :smile:

5.08km in 17' today

[rabidpotatochip]

That has a whole different meaning this side of the pond :w00t:

For me the more public I make it the more likely I am to continue :smile:

5.08km in 17' today

Huh... for me, the more public I make it the more likely I am to get arrested... :huh:

Mrs. Chip and I tried a hip-hop workout routine last night. Apparently I can't do it properly since all my attempts to emulate the television resulted in her literally dropping to the floor laughing. At some point it just degenerated into her doing the funky chicken and me trying to do the worm while laughing ourselves silly.

Most people probably wouldn't count last night as a success, but we still got some cardio in and we continued our efforts to exercise. Rather than giving up on a workout that was way above our level we worked with what we had and managed to have a bit of fun in the process. Unfortunately, both our weights seem to be going up... hopefully it's muscle.

[SepticTank]

Huh... for me, the more public I make it the more likely I am to get arrested... :huh:

Fixed that misunderstanding you made on purpose :biggrin:

[rabidpotatochip]

Fixed that misunderstanding you made on purpose :biggrin:

At least it was still exercise-related. :lol:

[King of Kailua]

I'm curious to learn how the relationship between blood pressure, diet, and exercise is working out for everyone over time. Are any of you folks taking a look at blood pressure trends as it relates to your activity levels and diet? I have a portable meter buried in my closet somewhere I need to dig out and begin using. I don't know much about their accuracy, or what may be the best time to take a reading i.e. not right after exercise, after eating, etc. But I'll bust it out and familiarize myself with it.

Blood pressure monitoring has been on my radar screen as it appears that I have a family history of high blood pressure. I'm reflecting mostly on my father's experience. He has had bypass surgery, and recently went to the hospital early on christmas morning for a racing and erratic heartbeat. He's watching his diet and gets some exercise which I am certain is doing good things for his heart. At the very least it's doing something for his golf game. The last time we got together for a round he out drove me most of the time and beat my score outright.

[Kratos]

Blood pressure varies with activity, but I a good time to establish a baseline is when you are at rest, relaxed. It usually goes up from there. It should go down with corresponding weight loss. I am new to shaving with a brush, but not exercise. I have different goals, however. I am wanting a bit more size. I am 510, 196. I figure 205 is good for now. My BMI is around 28 to 29, but that is not an accurate measurement standard. I am pretty healthy.

[rabidpotatochip]

Exercise definitely does good things for your heart, seeing as it's a muscle too. While I can't comment on whether exercise directly affects my blood pressure, it does help me handle stress better which prevents it from rising as much.

I also have a family history of high blood pressure, but I feel I maintain a healthy enough lifestyle to keep it in check. My last physical (and I hope that doesn't remind Mrs. Chip I need another one) I was told my blood pressure was perfect, so I'm inclined to assume it's still somewhere in the optimum range.

[DunEdinRanger]

Is it Friday yet? A lot of walking on the job today, and I cut back what I ate at lunch. Still need to lose over 50 lbs.

[Tommy_C]

Well I am late coming to this thread, but I hope y'all have room for one more person....

Nearly three years ago when I met my wife, at age 36, I was 5'11'' and 173 lbs. I had a 32-33 inch waist, and weighed less than I did when I was in college.

Sadly, falling in love with a woman who really knows how to cook has not been good for my waistline. To my horror, I weighed myself last December and saw a number I have never seen before: 244.5 lbs. This shocked and scared me. I turn 40 this coming summer. My wife is pregnant with our first baby. I want to be healthy when it is born this coming August. I decided, then, that I needed to make an immediate change.

I first cut out all sodas (Coca Cola is my one true vice), fast food (I LOVE Taco Bell), started drinking the better part of a gallon of water a day, cut out all sweets and between meal snacks, and I stick to three moderate meals a day. I have also made an attempt to walk more often at my job...take the stairs, intentionally park further out in the parking lot, etc.

I am pleased to say that I have, in the last seven weeks, lost 21.5 lbs. That's right at about 3 lbs/week. Sadly, as much as I am happy to have lost 21.5 lbs so far, I still have 53 lbs to go. I really want to get down to about 170.

I think that is actually possible. My plan is to diet until I get down to 200. At that point I am going to pick up jogging again. The jogging, along with maintaining healthier eating habits, should help me shed the last 30 pounds in relatively short order. I would like to be at my goal weight of 170 by May, if at all possible.

Still, today I am at 5'11'' and 223 lbs. That puts my BMI at 31.1. I still qualify as obese. :mad: That is coming to an end, though.

[King of Kailua]

I am pleased to say that I have, in the last seven weeks, lost 21.5 lbs. That's right at about 3 lbs/week.

That's fantastic TC! :w00t:

If you are thinking about getting on to a running program, make sure you stretch before and after and stay hydrated. You could start by doing daily walks, particularly if you've got any hills in the area. A good brisk walk every day or so may help to jump start your metabolism and help you continue with the weight loss trend. Walking a hill will help with strength as well. Your body will become familiar with the range of motion, and you'll begin to strengthen those running muscles. I walked for a while before I could run again, and I still walk daily whenever I can.

Good Luck and welcome to the club!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

My personal report is that I went about my day and happened to forget to take the daily supplements I use to control the inflammation in my neck (c-4,5,6). What a difference! My neck is sore, I've got pain in my index finger from nerve impingement and I feel a bit more run down. I'm certainly not going to leave the house without taking my Omega -3's, zyflammend, and a couple ibuprofen again. If anything, today I learned that I am still on a fragile road of recovery and I should be mindful not to over do it. I think I better stick to the short courses for the rest of the racing season. I have a physical therapy appointment tomorrow for a progress check.

[Confuzius]

Date Weight BMI
1/9/09 249 32.18
1/16/09 244 31.54
1/23/09 239 30.89
1/30/09 236 30.50

[DunEdinRanger]

In English units, doing the BMI calculation results in lbs/inches/inches - this is a very small number.

Yet it appears to be close, if you multiply it by a 1000, to either one's waist or the measurement around the belly button. Anyone else find this to be about right, or is it just me?

[Tommy_C]

That's fantastic TC! :w00t:

If you are thinking about getting on to a running program, make sure you stretch before and after and stay hydrated. You could start by doing daily walks, particularly if you've got any hills in the area. A good brisk walk every day or so may help to jump start your metabolism and help you continue with the weight loss trend. Walking a hill will help with strength as well. Your body will become familiar with the range of motion, and you'll begin to strengthen those running muscles. I walked for a while before I could run again, and I still walk daily whenever I can.

Good Luck and welcome to the club!


Thanks for the welcome, and the advice. I have actually run for years prior to my ballooning up in weight. I was, in fact, running 5 miles a day when I met my wife. But that stopped, and the bad eating habits started, and that's what has led me to where I am now.

The hard part for me is that, whenever I want to start running again, I forget that I'm out of shape and can't run the distance or at the speed I did before. So I tend to try and push it too far, too fast. I think, though, that I have a different mindset, now. I'm trying to see exercise as a part of my daily life from now on. That longer term view should help me take it easier and gradually work up my distance and time. After all, this isn't a "race" that there is a finish to. Lifetime health and fitness is just exactly that...for a lifetime.

As an aside, when I first got into running I started out stretching before I ran. I found that I got a lot of pain in my ITB when I did so. So I stopped stretching before I ran. I then read, in Runners World, that a growing number of people now stretch AFTER the run, and not before it. Switching to that has practically eliminated the ITB syndrome that I used to suffer from.

[SepticTank]

2.5 unpleasant km today in cold and wet in 9 mins. Hands frozen.

[Kratos]

The hard part for me is that, whenever I want to start running again, I forget that I'm out of shape and can't run the distance or at the speed I did before. So I tend to try and push it too far, too fast. I think, though, that I have a different mindset, now. I'm trying to see exercise as a part of my daily life from now on. That longer term view should help me take it easier and gradually work up my distance and time. After all, this isn't a "race" that there is a finish to. Lifetime health and fitness is just exactly that...for a lifetime.

As an aside, when I first got into running I started out stretching before I ran. I found that I got a lot of pain in my ITB when I did so. So I stopped stretching before I ran. I then read, in Runners World, that a growing number of people now stretch AFTER the run, and not before it. Switching to that has practically eliminated the ITB syndrome that I used to suffer from.
It does creep in on
you, but you always want to get where you were immediately if not sooner. I know how you feel there. On your aside, muscles don't like to be stretched when they are cold. I try to just gradually speed up the run as I go, then stretch after. I also incorporate dynamic stretches, which help with "cold" flexibility.
et

[rabidpotatochip]

Good timing with the stretching discussion happening in this thread...

It's been a crazy week at work and I thought that was what caused me to feel completely wiped last night, so much so that I skipped my workout routine. Today, my whole body hurts. I've been back on the exercising thing for a little over a week now and I've been making an effort to not overdo it; in fact, I'm still moderately convinced I haven't overdone it.

Basically I'm just wondering if it's possible that my whole body is rebelling against the extra strain it's been under from the exercise, that despite my attempts not to overdo things I've still managed to accumulate too much muscular stress in the last week or so. At the moment, my plan is not to skip tonight too, but I'm worried it might have to come to that.

Thoughts?

[King of Kailua]

Thoughts?

Time management. That's become the elephant in my workout room. I've missed two days that I would have liked to run due to time constaints and I know I'll feel the difference in performance. Thankfully, there is no race this weekend for me so I have some time. As for how your body is responding to workout stress, I find from my experience that there seems to be a phase shift that I have gone back and forth through with regard to workout stress.

From: "(($#@!)) for the love of god, what are you doing to me!", to; " Ok, I know what your doing to me, but why (($#@!)) for the love of god are you doing it?", to; "(($#@!)), give me more, I can take it!" Where (($#@!)) = my workout. It appears to be a round robin kind of pattern. :rolleyes:

[rabidpotatochip]

Time management. That's become the elephant in my workout room. I've missed two days that I would have liked to run due to time constaints and I know I'll feel the difference in performance. Thankfully, there is no race this weekend for me so I have some time. As for how your body is responding to workout stress, I find from my experience that there seems to be a phase shift that I have gone back and forth through with regard to workout stress.

From: "(($#@!)) for the love of god, what are you doing to me!", to; " Ok, I know what your doing to me, but why (($#@!)) for the love of god are you doing it?", to; "(($#@!)), give me more, I can take it!" Where (($#@!)) = my workout. It appears to be a round robin kind of pattern. :rolleyes:

Thank you for your inspirational post. Despite the fact that I can't stop laughing at it, I do feel motivated to exercise tonight. :lol:

[Terry Awhile]

Hi All,

I have bee pretending to study for an exam, so I have not posted my stats.

yes, I know.

But, here they are, for an entry date of February 1st!

Height: 5'6"

Weight: 164

BFP (approximate): 26%:blushing:

Waist: 36" :confused:

Hips: 38"

Flanks/Arse/Caboose/Junk: 40"

Thighs: 25"

Neck: 15"

Biceps: 13"

Chest: 38"


Self-esteem: non-existent

Hope: Is for children


In any event, here is my rough planned goals:


LOSE AT LEAST 10% BODY FAT BY JULY
LOSE AT LEAST 10 POUNDS OF FAT BY THE BEGINNING OF MAY
HAVE TOTAL VICTORY IN ABSTAINING FROM THE BOOSE SINCE IT HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THIS SITUATION IN A DEMONIC WAY
WRITE ABOUT MY ONGOING WORK IN A PUBLIC FORUM


If I score point one, I will reward myself with this:


http://http://www.customhide.com/scholar_3_compt_w_pockets.html


If I manage to finish point two, I will reward myself with a bottle of Hermes or Penhaligon's. Not bad, eh?

Poin three is personal, but it must be conjoined with this, and therefore, is being made public. I apologize if it is too much information, but a necessary disclosure for myself. This winter has been really hard on me, with some other life/job changes that have come along....I suffer from some nasty, malignant, lingering, just plain mean depression, and I have gone about things the wrong way. I have not crashed th car, or anything, but I have wasted too much time, spirit and possibility on grappling with this demi-god, it is a battle I cannot win, so will leave him alone.

Point four is something I need to do, as well, as a personal note. I am a writer, you just have not heard from me because I have not sold anything that was made inot a picture. I say screw it, undo the belt, pull it out, and do what everyone else is doing. Get a blog, and piddle nonfiction, 1st person reflections inot the echoing green of the internerd.

I will be updating the "blog" with musings, and will post braggadocio here in the BABGAC in statistical form.

If anyone is interested in the wasteland of said blog right now, it is in my signature, etc..

Not much there yet. I will update on Mondays, Wednesdays, a Fridays.

What is there is nonsense, but feel free to tell me what a turn of phrase In have, or, tell me I stink, so's we can battle like proper strangers via the internets.

Cheers, and good luck to everyone!

[King of Kailua]

Poin three is personal, but it must be conjoined with this, and therefore, is being made public. I apologize if it is too much information, but a necessary disclosure for myself. This winter has been really hard on me, with some other life/job changes that have come along....I suffer from some nasty, malignant, lingering, just plain mean depression, and I have gone about things the wrong way. I have not crashed th car, or anything, but I have wasted too much time, spirit and possibility on grappling with this demi-god, it is a battle I cannot win, so will leave him alone.

Terry,
If I may add to your post, I'd like to submit that exercise can have an impact of depression. As far as physiology goes, there is evidence that the neural pathways of the brain can be changed by exercise and this has a direct effect on cognititive processing which can help to support emotional "stability". I put stability in quotations because I don't think that's exactly the term I'd like to use: Zoloft can bring stability, and I don't think that's what we are talking about here.

The Mind/Body relationship: Exercise => Cognition => Emotion => Exercise =>...

[Sullybob]

I've been sick since last week, nasty head cold. I haven't exercised since last Thursday and I feel like I haven't exercised in over a week, especially the last two nights at bed time. Tomorrow I'll get back on track. Starting last Friday I was absolutely ravenous! I could not get enough to eat. I figured that I would have put some of the weight that I have lost back on but I only gained about one pound.

See you in the gym tomorrow.

[saegoose]

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Not bad for free, huh?

[DunEdinRanger]

204.8 lbs. :biggrin:

[DunEdinRanger]

Let me start by saying I am woefully out of shape. I let myself slide, badly, after the Edinburgh Marathon, heck even before that - after the Brooklyn Half Marathon. Today I had signed up for a four mile jaunt through Central Park with over 5000 of my closest running friends, including Julie (SJ) and Neil Cook. I have to confess that I really had not run four miles since last summer. Today's goals were simple

* Finish The Race
* Run The Entire Distance
* Do NOT stop at Fluid Aid Stations
* Run Negative Splits (Might as well, right?)

Shall we start before the beginning? Oh MTA how do I loathe thee? Let me count the ways! I am sure there is some sadistic couch potatoe at the MTA who looks at the NYRR race schedule and then arranges for construction so it has the maximum disruptive effect on runners trying to reach Central Park. There was no service on the 7 Line, so you couldn't get between Grand Central & Times Square that way, local service only on the A, which supplanted the normally local C trains. The 2 trains were affected, there was no L train service between 8th Ave and Union Square. In short, getting to Central Park this morning was a bit of a challenge.

Now, let me also say that one of the great things about coming to these races from the Jersey side is experiencing the sun rise over Manhattan Island as the city that never sleeps is cat napping, if not somewhat somnambulant.

In any event, eventually I made it to Central Park. One of the surest signs of creeping age is the need to first check out the lines at the portapotties. Fortunately, there were not many people waiting to use the facilities. I also did not see a lot of the regulars, as I call them. I could not find some old friends, or any of the Stevens Alum that seem to frequent these races.

At the corral, waiting to start, I once again unsuccessfully try to con the kids who are part of the NYRR Foundation that race etiquette requires them to finish behind anyone older. Despite the efforts of the volunteers, who think this is a Good Thing, the kids don't believe us, and we all get a good chuckle out of it.

This race started around East 68th Street, and went in a counterclockwise loop, north along the East Side, towards the 102nd Street Transverse, where the course turned west, and then on the West Drive, it turned south towards the finish near Tavern On The Green.

The good thing about this course is that we got Cat Hill out of the way early. The bad thing is that the western hills would haunt us until the conclusion of Mile 3.

We start and it takes 10 minutes to get to the Start Line. Despite that, the race is remarkably uncrowded, considering the over 5000 runners who finished. There are a few walkers in the first mile and once around them, it is not too bad maintaining a steady pace.

The first goal was to run the entire distance, and the first challenge to that goal was Cat Hill. The Cat was up to his old tricks today, salaciously eyeing the walkers, waiting to pounce on the weak. Despite the protestations of my legs, I run slowly, but running nonetheless, to the crest of the hill, beyond the Cat to the traffic light. Soon enough, we are in the vicinity of one of the greatest museums on God's green Earth - The Metropolitan Museum of Art, and that means the first mile is not too far off, somewhere just north of East 86th Street. Sure enough, there is the mile marker and clock, ticking away the seconds oblivious to the runners casting furtive glances at its omnipresent glowing fluorescent numerals. I check my watch and my pace is about what I expected.

This was a run where I used every "trick" in the book to my advantage. I know it is one mile from 72nd Street to 90th Street on the East Drive, and made a mental note of the time. I was running a fairly steady pace at 90th Street just past the statue of Fred Lebow, and the next mile marker would be just after turning the corner onto the 102nd Street Transverse.

Mile 2 is now in the books, and it is slightly faster than Mile 1, but this is to be expected. The crowd has thinned out, and there really are no major hills. I also held back a bit since I realized every run/race is about energy conservation and I still had to face the Western Hills. The instant we make the left off the transverse, all you can see is a long line of runners snaking their way upward along Central Park in the golden early morning sunshine. This is the challenge. These are the hills that break men's souls. Here, slow as I am running, I begin to pass people, the runners who went out too fast, who did not have the respect the hills demand, who are now paying the price for their hubris. I do not focus on finishing this mile. I focus on getting to the next crest of the hill as Central Park rolls along, up to 99th, and then a slight reprieve before we begin going uphill again at 96th. After what feels like an eternity, the highest point in the park is reached and after this, there is only net elevation loss to the finish. The split is horrid, but it was run the whole way, and now it is just a question of getting to the finish and making negative splits. A quick mental calculation shows it is still possible, despite that last mile being my slowest by 30 seconds. It means I have to be 30 seconds faster than Mile 2.

The numbers on the lamp post slowly begin to decrease as the course winds it way south. There is still time to appreciate the winter scenery in the park - the bare trees against a cerulean blue sky, the frozen lake glistening in the sun and the course losing elevation. Soon, we're at 77th and that means about a half mile to go. A quick glance at the watch shows negative splits may still be possible. By now I have forgotten all about the pain experienced around mile 3 and Clarence Demars' words echo in my mind, 'Run like hell and get the pain over with as quickly as possible." Half a mile to go and I spot someone dressed in the colors of the Aridzona Cardinals. I am, by coincidence dressed in the black and gold of the Pittsburgh Steelers, and decide to crush them with a quarter mile to go. A quick maneuver, and what passes as a "burst of speed" and I pass the Cardinal. The finish line is now in sight and I know, without looking at my watch, that I am going to make all my goals. I may have crossed the finish with all the grace and elegance of a water buffalo, but I managed a negative split by 13 seconds.


Post Race goodies, besides hanging out with Neil and SJ, involved obtaining some Cluck U Chicken Wings, and once home, enjoying some Chimay Grande Reserve for meeting all the objectives. An added plus was seeing the one car I wanted most to buy when I first got my license. Yes, admit it you did too - The AMC PACER!

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- Lou
e-mail - [email protected]

PS - Yes I did use the approved "Dan Quayle" spelling of potatoe, and I think Aridzona is a much better name for the state. :)

[PeachyKleen]

I've been trying the No S Diet for a few weeks. Simple and straightforward (there are the S's) http://www.nosdiet.com/ ...still having problems at work when folks bring in the leftover holiday candy and chocolates.

[DunEdinRanger]

No Snacks
No Sweets
No Seconds

:confused: That is called, simply, torture.

[rabidpotatochip]

No Snacks
No Sweets
No Seconds

:confused: That is called, simply, torture.

+1. :lol:

Just today, I ate a bunch of greasy sausages and some cookies; it was delicious. Tomorrow morning, I'm back on the wagon. Don't deny yourself, RetroRazor, just enjoy in moderation. :wink:

Mrs. Chip and I managed to add another 10 minutes to our workout yesterday and followed through with it today, bringing the total up to 20 minutes a day. We're writing how long we exercise each day on the calendar so we can track our progress. I'm hoping that next week we'll be on half an hour a day.

Some pretty interesting discoveries after less than two weeks of exercise too. My shoulders, which have been rock hard (not in a good way) nearly as long as I can remember, are now as soft as jello. Today I got dragged through a few malls and I actually held up through the whole trip. Normally I'd start running out of steam after an hour or less, but I actually felt more fluid in my movement and noticed a major boost in stamina. Mrs. Chip appears to be toning up nicely as well. :ihih:

Edit: That "No S Diet" is a pretty interesting read. By way of searching the site I came upon Everyday Systems (http://everydaysystems.com/), which is something I've also added to my read later list. That weekend luddite thing sounds like something I might try.

Edit 2: Last one, promise. The No S Diet does make some interesting points.

[PeachyKleen]

I never noticed the everyday systems....thanks RBC. Interesting correlation with Biblical Sins...and the essence is to do it simple, do it cheap! Like DE Shaving~

[SepticTank]

2.5 unpleasant km today in cold and wet in 9 mins. Hands frozen.

2.51km in 9 mins in the snow today - interrupted only to take a call to go collect my son (school being closed due to the inclement weather - and I'm on the bike wearing a t-shirt wondering if the sun-glare or the meltwater is the bigger hazard) :rolleyes:

[rabidpotatochip]

I never noticed the everyday systems....thanks RBC. Interesting correlation with Biblical Sins...and the essence is to do it simple, do it cheap! Like DE Shaving~

You're the first person I've seen use sarcasm punctuation on this site. :biggrin:

I'm finding that doing simple, cheap exercise is what's working best for me too. With a gym membership it always felt like throwing away money and left me feeling guilty, now I just watch a few free videos.

[SepticTank]

2.51km in 9 mins in the snow today - interrupted only to take a call to go collect my son (school being closed due to the inclement weather - and I'm on the bike wearing a t-shirt wondering if the sun-glare or the meltwater is the bigger hazard) :rolleyes:

3.45km in 13' today - cold and raining and not the promised snow and blizzards :mad:

[Gruder]

I was hoping for more snow today, as well!

Current BMI: 32.67. I'm down about 20 pounds, and feeling quite good. I'm definitely losing faster than is recommended, and ever-mindful of Chip's excellent point about long-term change in dining habits. Still, I'm entirely pleased with my success thus far (and, of course, grateful to you all for motivation).

A reminder -- don't forget about the wiki: http://wiki.badgerandblade.com/index.php/Athletic_Club#Session_1_Participants

[rabidpotatochip]

I was hoping for more snow today, as well!

Current BMI: 32.67. I'm down about 20 pounds, and feeling quite good. I'm definitely losing faster than is recommended, and ever-mindful of Chip's excellent point about long-term change in dining habits. Still, I'm entirely pleased with my success thus far (and, of course, grateful to you all for motivation).

A reminder -- don't forget about the wiki: http://wiki.badgerandblade.com/index.php/Athletic_Club#Session_1_Participants

If you're not going out of your way to do anything crazy and the pounds are still dropping you should just consider yourself lucky. :wink:

My little update: I've completely shifted my focus off losing the last few pounds and am going for core strength and overall stamina. My reasoning is that the fat will probably take care of itself. Every day it feels like I was hit by a truck the night before, but I do find myself looking forward to the workouts in some perverse way. I've even started doing some stretches during my breaks at work to help improve flexibility. Probably not a bad idea anyway, considering that I spend half the day sitting in a chair. I'm starting to see more definition just below the sternum, but from there I would almost say the amount of fat is constant and there's a layer of muscle making it stick out more. :lol:

Anyway, publicly journaling the process definitely makes it easier. It feels like we're all in this together, and even though I haven't met a single one of you, I feel like there's a commitment that needs to be upheld.

[SepticTank]

3.45km in 13' today - cold and raining and not the promised snow and blizzards :mad:

5.94km in 20' today - sunny, dry but -2C... oh and I detoured to pick up some dog biscuits on the way back

[Kratos]

Stretching is a great idea. I do it whenever I can at work. It actually makes your muscles stronger, even if you don't lift or anything. It's always good to have a supportive, like-minded group to interact with. Like it was said, helps keep you on track.

[perry]

Date Weight
01/01/09 - 254
01/08/09 - 254
01/15/09 - 253
01/22/09 - 253
01/29/09 - 251
02/05/09 - 251


Sigh.

[Gruder]

Sigh.

Stick with it Perry -- we're rooting for you!

[sol92258]

wow, sorry guys, it's been awhile since I've updated...I didn't fall off the wagon, I jumped and ran after fatty fried goodness :redface:
okay, I got a lot of exercise just running to catch up with you all, so I'm good for the day (I jest)
Am picking back up today, but won't post any updated figures til Sunday, that's my normal measuring day, but don't worry, things are as bad now as they were at my last update, so you won't miss anything :biggrin:
The jumprope is ready...
The heavy bag is hung and ready...
The sandbag is ready...
The Gymboss is ready...
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"Hey, me, get back here! You're not getting off the hook this time buddy!"
Okay, now the pushups, situps, squats, & other body weight exercises are ready, too
:lol:

[SepticTank]

5.94km in 20' today - sunny, dry but -2C... oh and I detoured to pick up some dog biscuits on the way back

-4C today and 10cm of snow on the ground made for heavy going - then I get a call to come and collect my son from school because of the snow :mad: I think I was the only one in the collection queue wearing a cycle helmet :biggrin:

1.5km in 6'

[Gruder]

-4C today and 10cm of snow on the ground made for heavy going - then I get a call to come and collect my son from school because of the snow :mad: I think I was the only one in the collection queue wearing a cycle helmet :biggrin:

1.5km in 6'

That's twice this week for the call from school -- doesn't anyone in Scotland believe in calling off school before the children arrive?! And no worries about the bike helmet -- no one's going to want to mess with the kid whose father does the bada*s snow biking!

[SepticTank]

That's twice this week for the call from school -- doesn't anyone in Scotland believe in calling off school before the children arrive?! And no worries about the bike helmet -- no one's going to want to mess with the kid whose father does the bada*s snow biking!

Well Tuesday they called off school because there might be snow... there wasn't. When I was a kid there was no school closing due to weather - only if the heating broke (and the classroom temperature dropped below 55°F)

[Sullybob]

Weighed in at 210.6 this morning. I'm over what ever crud I had last week and back in the gym. Next week I should see more weight reduction.


DunEdinRanger,
I enjoyed the heck out of your post. Great narrative.

[SRock]

I'm holding strong at 188. I started at 214 so 188 isn't horrible, but the goal is 170-175. I've plateaued a little and the winter snow isn't helping. I'm still running on the dreadmill but only about 3x a week. As soon as the snow thaws it will be 5 days on the road!

[King of Kailua]

I still don't own a bathroom scale so I don't know what is going on with my weight, but I look and feel sveltier (i just made that word up!) than before. :001_rolle

I'm back in school working towards some certifications and I have noticed with the increased studying and desk time that my neck problems are springing up again. I am hitting the cold packs and anti-inflammatory meds more frequently. Argh!

[Sullybob]

I still don't own a bathroom scale so I don't know what is going on with my weight, but I look and feel sveltier (i just made that word up!) than before. :001_rolle

I'm back in school working towards some certifications and I have noticed with the increased studying and desk time that my neck problems are springing up again. I am hitting the cold packs and anti-inflammatory meds more frequently. Argh!

I'm back in school too. I have a strange schedule and fitting in exercise on class days a real treat.

And I totally understand svelter. I'm feeling it too.

[rabidpotatochip]

I still don't own a bathroom scale so I don't know what is going on with my weight, but I look and feel sveltier (i just made that word up!) than before. :001_rolle

I'm back in school working towards some certifications and I have noticed with the increased studying and desk time that my neck problems are springing up again. I am hitting the cold packs and anti-inflammatory meds more frequently. Argh!

I love it. Sounds very cromulent. Definitely adding it to the vocabulary. :biggrin:

I didn't get a chance to work out last night, but I anticipated it would happen and did a few exercises at the office. I did the prison workout: push-ups, upper-body wall exercises, and a bunch of core work. Tonight I'm going to add some extra time to the workout to compensate for missing last night.

[Kratos]

Those Perfect Pushups really add some difficulty to the exercise. I'm about to grab an Iron Gym so I can do pull-ups at home. The 90 degree angle where the kitchen counters meet is good for dips. Improvisation. I like it.

[Tigger23505]

235 and dropping about 1 pound a week. Current BMI is 32.

The deal breaker for me was being called on the carpet by my Dr.

I started off by watching what I eat, discovered that a lot of "convenience":lol::lol: foods have a high cost in calories, fat, sodium or some combination of the whole bunch. You don't need to spreadsheet it like I did, but I enjoy it most of the time, and it keeps me honest about the food intake.

Got a Wii for Christmas - belated due to demand, the wife and I went halvsies on Wii Fit, the balance board and a jelly sleeve. It is fun, but it does tend to kick your butt with some of the exercises.

I also went uber geek w/ an Omron 720 pedometer:blushing:, working toward 10,000 steps per day. Most days the first 5000 is pretty easy, the last 5000 takes most of the effort.

[perry]

I just had my first outdoor workout since I started exercising about 2 months ago. It's an unseasonably warm 51 degrees out today, so I took my MP3 player loaded with Podrunner Intervals week 4 out for a journey around the apartment complex. We've had about 16 inches of snow the past two weeks, so the streets and sidewalks are still a little slushy and wet, which gave me some cold toes when I ran through the puddles. But, it was fun! I was pretty comfy wearing two long sleeve tshirts (one of that wicking fabric, one just cotton) and shorts.

Tomorrow is suppose to be in the 40's -- I think I'll try to brave the weather again. Running around outside is much better than the treadmill! I'm going to really hate having to go back inside when the temps return to normal.

(would have posted in the WOTD thread in our group, but was afraid of hitting the 1000 character limit :rolleyes: )

[DunEdinRanger]

Would there be interest in a group getting together for a 5K Road Race this summer?

Maybe there is a race in conjunction with the Shave Con in Columbus?

[SRock]

I just had my first outdoor workout since I started exercising about 2 months ago. It's an unseasonably warm 51 degrees out today, so I took my MP3 player loaded with Podrunner Intervals week 4 out for a journey around the apartment complex. We've had about 16 inches of snow the past two weeks, so the streets and sidewalks are still a little slushy and wet, which gave me some cold toes when I ran through the puddles. But, it was fun! I was pretty comfy wearing two long sleeve tshirts (one of that wicking fabric, one just cotton) and shorts.

Tomorrow is suppose to be in the 40's -- I think I'll try to brave the weather again. Running around outside is much better than the treadmill! I'm going to really hate having to go back inside when the temps return to normal.

(would have posted in the WOTD thread in our group, but was afraid of hitting the 1000 character limit :rolleyes: )

This is exactly how I see it. Running outside is the best. I run on asphalt (concrete is too hard on the joints) if possible, but trail running is the most enjoyable.

As for me, I'm still averaging a 3 mile run about 4-5 times per week. I dropped one more pound, down to 187.

[Mrs. Chip]

Finally been doing almost nightly exercise and eating better and finally dropped under a decade but 1 more to go.

[SRock]

Finally been doing almost nightly exercise and eating better and finally dropped under a decade but 1 more to go.

Congrats!

[King of Kailua]

You may not count this as a workout but I got really good and sweaty doin' it!

Volunteered at the local Boys and Girls club today to help them establish a large garden area on some of their land. A lot of brush clearing, digging, dragging, heaving and hoe-ing. I'm sure I burned at least as much calories doing this for 4 hours as I would have had in a "workout". It felt really good to do some great service and community gardening. Very energizing!

Unfortunately, the gang fed me well afterwards so the "workout" may have been a wash :rolleyes:

[SRock]

You may not count this as a workout but I got really good and sweaty doin' it!

Volunteered at the local Boys and Girls club today to help them establish a large garden area on some of their land. A lot of brush clearing, digging, dragging, heaving and hoe-ing. I'm sure I burned at least as much calories doing this for 4 hours as I would have had in a "workout". It felt really good to do some great service and community gardening. Very energizing!

Unfortunately, the gang fed me well afterwards so the "workout" may have been a wash :rolleyes:

That's actually a great workout if it was hard work. Just because something isn't cardio doesn't mean it's not a great workout. If you were hard at work for 4 hours you probably burned 6-8 times as many calories as you would in a cardio workout. Even a great meal afterwards probably didn't totally wipe out your effort. Besides anytime you break down a little muscle tissue, it's a good thing.

[Kratos]

This is exactly how I see it. Running outside is the best. I run on asphalt (concrete is too hard on the joints) if possible, but trail running is the most enjoyable.

As for me, I'm still averaging a 3 mile run about 4-5 times per week. I dropped one more pound, down to 187.

You are sure right about that. A 6 minute dreadmill mile is half as hard as running 1 for real. Nice job on progressing. The same for Mrs. Chip. King--that was some honest-to-God labor right there. 4 hours of digging and hoeing? Using practically every muscle in your body? Hell, you needed a hearty meal after that!

[Sullybob]

I read in interesting article on Yahoo about weight loss and fitness.
http://health.yahoo.com/experts/healthieryou/8471/sizzle-calories-in-18-minutes/

Intervals are good for you. :001_smile

[perry]

Podrunner Interval week 5 mix 1 on a balmy 35 degree morning. The melting snow from yesterday left a thin layer of water on the parking area and sidewalks, which made for some pretty slippery going and I lost my footing more than once but managed not to hit the ground. Again, fun! The cotton t-shirt outer layer was replaced by a sweatshirt this morning to make up for it being 15 degrees cooler. At the last moment I threw on a Carhartt beanie and I was sure glad I did! Kinda wish I had some lightweight gloves too. And my legs were cold.

Weather is supposed to be nice for the next couple days, so maybe I have time to order some stuff so I can keep running outside in the 30's? After these two runs outside, I really dread going back to the treadmill!

[Mrs. Chip]

I read in interesting article on Yahoo about weight loss and fitness.
http://health.yahoo.com/experts/healthieryou/8471/sizzle-calories-in-18-minutes/

Intervals are good for you. :001_smile
They are great and I love how they feel easier since you get a minute or 2 to breathe while doing sculpting. This is what we've been doing for a few weeks.

http://www.exercisetv.tv/watchvideo.aspx?id=893879493&series=776658642&filter=776662287

It's not as easy as it looks.

[Sullybob]

They are great and I love how they feel easier since you get a minute or 2 to breathe while doing sculpting. This is what we've been doing for a few weeks.

http://www.exercisetv.tv/watchvideo.aspx?id=893879493&series=776658642&filter=776662287

It's not as easy as it looks.

Fighting the freshman 15! Thats what I'm doing right now. Well, it really more like the freshman 20.

The video reminds me of years ago my friend invited me to go to an ab class at the gym on base. It was 45 minutes of ab work and about 15 minutes of other stuff, stretching, band work etc. I was like sure, it will be fun, a nice change of pace. I was regularly running 10 to 13 miles at the time so we decided to run the 3 miles to the gym. Class starts, in 10 minutes (probably really more like 5) I'm freaking dieing. My abs are exhausted. I make it through the rest of the session with lots of breaks, grunting, cursing my friend, my lot in life, etc. I walk back to work because I can barely breath my abs are so tired. What do I do? I invite everyone I work with to the class the next day. The lady running the class made it look so easy.

[rabidpotatochip]

Fighting the freshman 15! Thats what I'm doing right now. Well, it really more like the freshman 20.

The video reminds me of years ago my friend invited me to go to an ab class at the gym on base. It was 45 minutes of ab work and about 15 minutes of other stuff, stretching, band work etc. I was like sure, it will be fun, a nice change of pace. I was regularly running 10 to 13 miles at the time so we decided to run the 3 miles to the gym. Class starts, in 10 minutes (probably really more like 5) I'm freaking dieing. My abs are exhausted. I make it through the rest of the session with lots of breaks, grunting, cursing my friend, my lot in life, etc. I walk back to work because I can barely breath my abs are so tired. What do I do? I invite everyone I work with to the class the next day. The lady running the class made it look so easy.

+1. :frown:

In a little over two weeks of doing these exercises I've seen and felt better results than three months at the gym. My stomach is actually starting to get flatter and I think the bit of pudge is starting to go too.

[frank85]

Alright count me in...

I recently joined 24 hour fitness... it has been a little over 5 years now of inactivity and I have put on some extra LBS. ....

My current stats are

Height 6'5
Weight 80LBS

MY Goals are

To reach 255LBS - 260LBS by April 11th (friends wedding)

and hit 230LBS by August of 2009

At the moment I am doing a jane fonda workout :lol::lol::lol:
Light weights high reps... One body part a day...
with Calves, push ups, and abs ob MON, WED, FRI

I will gradually increase my cardio over time...
trying to make time to go gym now is now is not an excuse because the gym is 24/7 :lol::lol::lol:

[Kratos]

see next post

[Kratos]

Frank-- you may want to combine your body parts and repeat a workout or 2 during the week if your goal is overall weight loss. In my experience splitting it up is a bit better suited for building muscle. Of course, your MPG may vary. You also may want to try some interval training. Many here are getting good results with it. And to all, have you ever heard of Crossfit? Crazily hard workouts, but very effective for overall fitness and weight loss, and you can tone them down.

[frank85]

Frank-- you may want to combine your body parts and repeat a workout or 2 during the week if your goal is overall weight loss. In my experience splitting it up is a bit better suited for building muscle. Of course, your MPG may vary. You also may want to try some interval training. Many here are getting good results with it. And to all, have you ever heard of Crossfit? Crazily hard workouts, but very effective for overall fitness and weight loss, and you can tone them down.

Hey Kratos, thanks for the tip...


i'll look into Crossfit, I have heard of it but never really bother to look into it...
I have thought about it long and hard and have come to the conclusion that loosing the extra weight will be best for the long run...

I dusted off the old Mountain Bike and started using imapmyride with a 300 mile challenge... (68 miles thus far)

I started a halfway commute to work on my bike on Fridays 11.5 miles round trip... (I hope to add more days)

and I plan on sprinting once a week....

I plan on adjusting the meals and my work out as time goes by...

[Sullybob]

Alright count me in...

Welcome to the club. Good luck.

[frank85]

Frank-- you may want to combine your body parts and repeat a workout or 2 during the week if your goal is overall weight loss. In my experience splitting it up is a bit better suited for building muscle. Of course, your MPG may vary. You also may want to try some interval training. Many here are getting good results with it. And to all, have you ever heard of Crossfit? Crazily hard workouts, but very effective for overall fitness and weight loss, and you can tone them down.

Crossfit!!! Really??? where do I start :lol::lol::lol:

I like it ...

[Kratos]

Crossfit!!! Really??? where do I start :lol::lol::lol:

I like it ...

crossfit.com should have some plenty of sample workouts. I was never a member there, but there are also discussion forums. However, I have found that in my experience most exercise boards are a bit lacking in the manners dept. Good luck! As long as you eat fairly well you should get to where you want to be, when you want to.

[SRock]

Crossfit!!! Really??? where do I start :lol::lol::lol:

I like it ...


crossfit.com should have some plenty of sample workouts. I was never a member there, but there are also discussion forums. However, I have found that in my experience most exercise boards are a bit lacking in the manners dept. Good luck! As long as you eat fairly well you should get to where you want to be, when you want to.

:thumbup: for Crossfit. While I was in Iraq I had a troop who was a little larger than he or the Air Force would like. He got involved in Crossfit and lost somewhere around 40-45lbs over 6 months. However, he obviously added muscle so the end number is a bit deceiving. The workouts seem unorthodox at times, but that is precisely why it works.

[Confuzius]

Oops, forgot to add this on Friday.
Had a bit of an indulgent week and slowed abit, but still dropping.

Date Weight BMI
1/9/09 249 32.18
1/16/09 244 31.54
1/23/09 239 30.89
1/30/09 236 30.50
2/6/09 235 30.37

[SRock]

Oops, forgot to add this on Friday.
Had a bit of an indulgent week and slowed abit, but still dropping.

Date Weight BMI
1/9/09 249 32.18
1/16/09 244 31.54
1/23/09 239 30.89
1/30/09 236 30.50
2/6/09 235 30.37

Wow, 14 lbs in just under a month! Congrats.

I myself am still holding strong at 187. After I take my promotion exam on Wednesday and start back to work on Thursday I'll be back in my M-F running routine. If I can find a dedicated partner I may start lifting weights 3 days a week as well.

[Kratos]

Nice work Confuzius. That's a good, healthy rate of weight loss. U sho' right about those Crossfit workouts, Slagle. I think Tony Horton got his P90X idea from there. Or vice versa. Today is my beach workout. Chest and biceps! Then I need to run. 2 miles sounds good.

[frank85]

if anyone wants to help me get started with Crossfit PM me... :biggrin:

[rabidpotatochip]

Congrats Confuzius! At 3.5lb/week you're just burning through it.

Last night I hit a major hurdle in working out. I reached a point where I physically couldn't do it. There were nights I didn't want to or couldn't keep up, but this was the first time I literally collapsed halfway. I'm only down 2lb in nearly three weeks, but my whole torso is becoming more toned.

[Sullybob]

That is great progress Confuzius. Nice job.


Congrats Confuzius! At 3.5lb/week you're just burning through it.

Last night I hit a major hurdle in working out. I reached a point where I physically couldn't do it. There were nights I didn't want to or couldn't keep up, but this was the first time I literally collapsed halfway. I'm only down 2lb in nearly three weeks, but my whole torso is becoming more toned.

It sounds like your body is just broken down from the exercise. How many days are you taking off per days of exercise? I am trying to exercise 5 days a week with two days off. When I start working out my body first breaks down, then it gets stronger. My first couple of workouts feel great. Then my body kind of rebels and doesn't want to do it anymore. You may be over training also.

[frank85]

I found an affiliate close by... I think I will go check it out this weekend :biggrin:

wish me luck...

[rabidpotatochip]

That is great progress Confuzius. Nice job.



It sounds like your body is just broken down from the exercise. How many days are you taking off per days of exercise? I am trying to exercise 5 days a week with two days off. When I start working out my body first breaks down, then it gets stronger. My first couple of workouts feel great. Then my body kind of rebels and doesn't want to do it anymore. You may be over training also.

I'm probably not taking enough breaks then. :redface:

I'm working out five or six days a week. I probably should have taken last night off since the night before was pretty rough. When I went to bed I couldn't even lift my legs off the floor without my stomach shaking and it's still a bit the same today. Nothing hurts, but because the core is involved in pretty much every movement I feel a bit weak. hehe

Tonight we're going to "So You Think You Can Dance", so I get the night off.

[Sullybob]

I try to vary the intensity of my work outs so that not every day is a killer work out. I also plan on pushing my self hardest when I can take the next day off or at least make the next day a relatively easy day.

[frank85]

Ive kept the meals in check today....
so far so good...

I am using this pic of Arnold for inspiration....

:biggrin:

[Sullybob]

Ive kept the meals in check today....
so far so good...

I am using this pic of Arnold for inspiration....

:biggrin:

That should provide some inspiration. :cool:

[rabidpotatochip]

That should provide some inspiration. :cool:

Especially if you imagine him chasing you while you run on the treadmill. :eek:

[Mrs. Chip]

Anyone else get really frustrated with BMI's?

I have to loose 12-13 lbs to get in the top of the healthy range. Even the doc says it when I ask. I'm really frustrated about it and then I loose motivation.
How do you get your motivation back when you loose it, especially when you give yourself a time frame to meet it in.

Another mini rant: Why do doctors not talk about weight unless they are asked or until one's body is ready to give out.

This is all enough to make me crazy!:a31::a31:

[cynical1]

Well, in the spirit of being accountable in as many places as possible, I'd like to play in this as well.

Short story, I used to be a regular exerciser and wannabe health nut until I had a minor but movement restricting accident in 2001. At that time I was 205 having had just put on about 10lbs in the month following a bicycle ride across New England (I was rewarding myself :001_huh:). Since that time I've accumulated a little more than 100lbs of excess.

Over the course of this year I'd like to be well on my way to a goal of 195, while I'm currently 302. I just eclipsed the 300 mark about 2 months ago, and topped out at 305. Though I wasn't kidding myself that I'd packed on a few, the number 3 was a pretty big motivator/wake up for me.

I can say this about diets, over the past 8 years I don't think there's a diet I didn't try excluding the "detox" diets (that didn't sound like a good idea even to me). This time around there's no gimmicks...simply eating well and exercise has to be the solution.

If there's any of you out there near the San Diego area that would be interested in getting together for hikes/runs/whatever in order to better support one another, I'd be interested.

I think that's about it for now. I'll look forward to monitoring the group's progress and process for the duration!

Good luck everyone!

_________________________
Steve

[SRock]

Well, in the spirit of being accountable in as many places as possible, I'd like to play in this as well.

Short story, I used to be a regular exerciser and wannabe health nut until I had a minor but movement restricting accident in 2001. At that time I was 205 having had just put on about 10lbs in the month following a bicycle ride across New England (I was rewarding myself :001_huh:). Since that time I've accumulated a little more than 100lbs of excess.

Over the course of this year I'd like to be well on my way to a goal of 195, while I'm currently 302. I just eclipsed the 300 mark about 2 months ago, and topped out at 305. Though I wasn't kidding myself that I'd packed on a few, the number 3 was a pretty big motivator/wake up for me.

I can say this about diets, over the past 8 years I don't think there's a diet I didn't try excluding the "detox" diets (that didn't sound like a good idea even to me). This time around there's no gimmicks...simply eating well and exercise has to be the solution.

If there's any of you out there near the San Diego area that would be interested in getting together for hikes/runs/whatever in order to better support one another, I'd be interested.

I think that's about it for now. I'll look forward to monitoring the group's progress and process for the duration!

Good luck everyone!

_________________________
Steve

Welcome to the club, the important part is you are here and you are working on it! Best of luck!

[SepticTank]

1.5km in 6'

First day back in the saddle since winter arrived properly. 6.18km in 23'


Anyone else get really frustrated with BMI's?

Nope - I gave up on BMI ages ago - I have shoulders that are 24" from bone to bone - I'd say I'm large framed, my doctor says the BMI doesn't take account of "frame size" so because I have wide shoulders, I'd have to look like a famine victim to make 25 BMI - which would make the doctor happy, but wouldn't be particularly healthy...

[Mrs. Chip]

Nope - I gave up on BMI ages ago - I have shoulders that are 24" from bone to bone - I'd say I'm large framed, my doctor says the BMI doesn't take account of "frame size" so because I have wide shoulders, I'd have to look like a famine victim to make 25 BMI - which would make the doctor happy, but wouldn't be particularly healthy...

This may mean I need a new doc but they are slim pickings where we are.

[Sullybob]

Anyone else get really frustrated with BMI's?

I have to loose 12-13 lbs to get in the top of the healthy range. Even the doc says it when I ask. I'm really frustrated about it and then I loose motivation.
How do you get your motivation back when you loose it, especially when you give yourself a time frame to meet it in.

Another mini rant: Why do doctors not talk about weight unless they are asked or until one's body is ready to give out.

This is all enough to make me crazy!:a31::a31:

I don't look at my BMI, it just makes me crazy. When I was in really good condition and sitting at 10% body fat with a resting pulse of 55 BPM my BMI rating was 27.2, which is over weight. I focused on other goals, like body fat, resting heart rate, my aerobic conditioning level, how far and how fast I can run before I start to feel tired, how long I can maintain a certain level of effort, and waist and chest size.

I am pretty sure that the days of me being as fit as I was 10-15 years ago are over, and more then likely I will never see them again. I have other responsibilities now, kids, school, etc. Another reason is that I just don't have the motivation. So now, many of my goals are different. I also try to pick mini goals that are easily attainable and a couple of goals that are going to be harder to meet. This way I can have some successes along the way.
I hope that this helps you.


Well, in the spirit of being accountable in as many places as possible, I'd like to play in this as well....

Welcome to the club Steve. I really like your first line. I moved from San Diego almost two years ago. Where do you run there?

[Mrs. Chip]

How does one discover body fat percentages easily and at home?

[SepticTank]

This may mean I need a new doc but they are slim pickings were we are.

Here too - me & my doc (let's call him "Dr. Jabba" to let you into his own BMI range) have come to an understanding though - I'll get to 25 BMI when he stops drinking like a fish and smoking like a chimney :smile:

[Sullybob]

How does one discover body fat percentages easily and at home?

There are several ways.

Body fat calipers are one way.
http://www.accumeasurefitness.com/

Scales that measure body fat.
http://www.tanita.com/BodyFatOverview.shtml

The Marine Corps uses a series of measurements to measure body fat. Here is a link to something similar.
http://www.healthcentral.com/cholesterol/home-body-fat-test-2774-143.html

And an article discussing different methods of body fat measurement.
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=56830

[Sullybob]

Nope - I gave up on BMI ages ago - I have shoulders that are 24" from bone to bone - I'd say I'm large framed, my doctor says the BMI doesn't take account of "frame size" so because I have wide shoulders, I'd have to look like a famine victim to make 25 BMI - which would make the doctor happy, but wouldn't be particularly healthy...

That is how I would look with my BMI under 25. I would need to loose quite a bit of lean muscle mass to make it. My wife does not like it when I get under 175 lbs. She says I look gaunt and unhealthy.


This may mean I need a new doc but they are slim pickings where we are.

Why would you need to get a new doctor because of BMI?

[Mrs. Chip]

I'm looking for a good measure of my health and my Doc only goes by BMI, see below.

[Mrs. Chip]

Why would you need to get a new doctor because of BMI?

Saying this with tact, she has poor interpersonal skills...lots of people don't get fuzzy feelings from her. Not that I mean that I don't like her that she tells it like it is but there are good ways to do so and not so desirable ways.

OK, I did the body fat test on http://www.healthcentral.com/cholesterol/home-body-fat-test-2774-143.html#accurate and need help interpreting it.

It comes out that I have 21.4% body fat.
I have 36.4 Pounds of fat and 133.6 Pounds of lean (muscle, bone, body water). The chart at the bottom says I should be 22% so I'm good with this right?

My BMI is 26.6 right now and should be 24.9. To get there I need to loose 12-15 lbs (depending on the day).

What should I think of all of this?

[Gruder]

Dori, if you're not happy with your physician, seek a new one -- no explanation needed. It should be as simple as calling around -- the new doc would simply ask the old one to transfer your charts. I suppose there could be some sort of Canadian healthcare bureaucracy that makes the process more difficult than that, but whatever it is, it's worth it. We're training far too many physicians who are lacking in social interaction abilities and compassion these days. Don't give in!

Welcome new members -- I had some doubts as to whether this thread would continue to thrive beyond January -- I love that folks are still jumping on board!

My BMI this week: 32.31. Another few pounds bite the dust.

[Sullybob]

Saying this with tact, she has poor interpersonal skills...lots of people don't get fuzzy feelings from her. Not that I mean that I don't like her that she tells it like it is but there are good ways to do so and not so desirable ways.

OK, I did the body fat test on http://www.healthcentral.com/cholesterol/home-body-fat-test-2774-143.html#accurate and need help interpreting it.

It comes out that I have 21.4% body fat.
I have 36.4 Pounds of fat and 133.6 Pounds of lean (muscle, bone, body water). The chart at the bottom says I should be 22% so I'm good with this right?

My BMI is 26.6 right now and should be 24.9. To get there I need to loose 12-15 lbs (depending on the day).

What should I think of all of this?

I would think that 21.4% body fat is great for you.


Dori, if you're not happy with your physician, seek a new one -- no explanation needed. It should be as simple as calling around -- the new doc would simply ask the old one to transfer your charts. I suppose there could be some sort of Canadian healthcare bureaucracy that makes the process more difficult than that, but whatever it is, it's worth it. We're training far too many physicians who are lacking in social interaction abilities and compassion these days. Don't give in!

Welcome new members -- I had some doubts as to whether this thread would continue to thrive beyond January -- I love that folks are still jumping on board!

My BMI this week: 32.31. Another few pounds bite the dust.

+1
Absolutely get a new doctor if the one you have is crass or rude.

[yardpup01]

I know it's been awhile since I updated so here it is:

2/10/09
Current weight : 216 lb
weight lost since last check-in: 2 lb
total weight lost: 2 lb
current waist: 43.5 in
inches lost since last check-in: 0 in
total inches lost: 0 in

So finally have some results :w00t: I was really starting to get frustrated. But I got serious, decided to follow the no-s plan because it is simple and to the point. Did weight lifting and ran about a mile or so on monday.

[yardpup01]

Also did that nifty body fat test and got 20.5%, I was expecting worse. But I'm not convinced that they can accurately measure body fat with only four measurements.

[Mrs. Chip]

Also did that nifty body fat test and got 20.5%, I was expecting worse. But I'm not convinced that they can accurately measure body fat with only four measurements.

I'm with you on that one but there was the other site that Sully was posted, http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=56830, that graded different types of tests. This one got an A while the BMI got a D I believe.

[SRock]

I did a quick 2.5 mile run today with one of my troops. I didn't time it or track my pace (forgot my Garmin Forerunner 405). What I did reinforce and learn is that a 4 day break is too long and my troop needs help! I've already drawn up a running program for him and I'm going to try to coach him and convince him to run a 5K race with me at the end of March.

Still holding strong at 187lbs. 32" Waist.

[SepticTank]

First day back in the saddle since winter arrived properly. 6.18km in 23'

6.21km in 22' (same route as yesterday - obviously I detoured slightly - but I was still quicker! yay!)

I can also report that my belt now tightens 2-3 notches tighter than when I started.

[frank85]

Is anyone using supplements? Protein, creatine, fat burners ect...

I am thinking on jumping back on the Animal again, but I am going to wait at least another month before I do...

I went crazy on Saturday while doing Bi's & Tri's and I still havent recovered from it... oh the joy, oh the pain :lol::lol::lol:


Animal Pak, & Animal Cuts from Universal Nutrition...

[yardpup01]

6.21km in 22' (same route as yesterday - obviously I detoured slightly - but I was still quicker! yay!)

I can also report that my belt now tightens 2-3 notches tighter than when I started.

Way to go, visual progress is always the best motivator.

[Kratos]

Also did that nifty body fat test and got 20.5%, I was expecting worse. But I'm not convinced that they can accurately measure body fat with only four measurements.

You are quite right. The most accurate methods are hydrostatic weighing, the Bod Pod(same thing just with air displacement instead of water), and I think they use MRI's, too. As far as at-home testing goes, the proper use of calipers I believe provides the most accurate results. Those electronic scales are not very precise.

[King of Kailua]

Frank did you check out the Crossfit gym yet?

It's pretty awesome stuff. The nice thing about a Crossfit gym is they should be represented by a trainer who can personalize the aspects of the gym stages to you. The workouts should be completely modular in that way. Also the trainer can observe your form which is really important if you are going for max reps over time. The crossfit workout will kick your butt if you are into it :biggrin:

If you don't have the $$$ for a Crossfit gym regimen, I would suggest visiting one to see if they offer a "free weeks trial" or something like that. Then, do some research on the Tabata system (http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=Tabata+protocol&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8), which is what Crossfit is modeled after. I really like the Fight Gone Bad (http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=fight+gone+bad+tabata&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8) Tabata! You can put together aspects of a crossfit gym rather easily in your own area with a gym timer, kettle bells, a squat bar, a pull up station, a medicine ball, jump rope, etc, etc. I would recommend that you work out with at least one other person though as injuries (http://crossfitatlanta.typepad.com/NYTArticle.pdf) can occur to those that "release the beast". So be careful!

[frank85]

Frank did you check out the Crossfit gym yet?

It's pretty awesome stuff. The nice thing about a Crossfit gym is they should be represented by a trainer who can personalize the aspects of the gym stages to you. The workouts should be completely modular in that way. Also the trainer can observe your form which is really important if you are going for max reps over time. The crossfit workout will kick your butt if you are into it :biggrin:

If you don't have the $$$ for a Crossfit gym regimen, I would suggest visiting one to see if they offer a "free weeks trial" or something like that. Then, do some research on the Tabata system (http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=Tabata+protocol&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8), which is what Crossfit is modeled after. I really like the Fight Gone Bad (http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=fight+gone+bad+tabata&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8) Tabata! You can put together aspects of a crossfit gym rather easily in your own area with a gym timer, kettle bells, a squat bar, a pull up station, a medicine ball, jump rope, etc, etc. I would recommend that you work out with at least one other person though as injuries (http://crossfitatlanta.typepad.com/NYTArticle.pdf) can occur to those that "release the beast". So be careful!


Thanks King,

I found a few gyms in my area, I am going to check one out next week.
I'll post pictures if they allow me to take some during the session. :biggrin:

[perry]

I got three packages of workout clothes today! A pair of running pants and socks from Running Warehouse, wicking shirt and shorts from Sierra Trading post, and long sleeve and short sleeve wicking shirts from LL Bean. It was like Christmas!

But, I'm fighting off a cold today... sore throat, runny nose, sneezing.. So, despite tomorrow being my "weigh in" day and wanting to try out my new clothes, I'm taking today off. Windy and rainy today, too.

My diet wasn't as good as it could have been this past week, so I'm not expecting a good result on the scale tomorrow.

[Kratos]

Be prepared. They are tough, or brutal, depending on the exercise you choose. I usually go to Thrusters, which is basically a squat combined with a shoulder press. As you rise up from the squat, you press the dumbells(or kettlebells) up. They left me ridiculously sore the next day, and I have been steady working out over 10 years. All in 8 minutes.

[Sullybob]

The good news. I have lost weight since last week. 208 lbs this morning. The bad news is that I haven't worked out nearly enough. Only twice in the past week. School, work and family are keeping me plenty busy.

[SepticTank]

Way to go, visual progress is always the best motivator.

Indeed - which is why today rather than be beaten off exercise altogether by the snow, I cleared the new snow off the drive - 3" of snow off 80 square metres of drive - manually with a shovel and brush.

For those keeping tabs, the school closed again today - when there was less than ½" on the ground.

[Kratos]

Indeed - which is why today rather than be beaten off exercise altogether by the snow, I cleared the new snow off the drive - 3" of snow off 80 square metres of drive - manually with a shovel and brush.

For those keeping tabs, the school closed again today - when there was less than ½" on the ground.

That's some good hard work, using plenty of muscles. Probably kept you warm, too! +1 on visual motivation. That charges you up like no scale can. Pants that get loose, muscle definition appearing, it all pushes you forward.

[frank85]

Alright so I have created my short term and long term goals...

on the short end list is to drop to 250LBS by April of this year
I plan on achieving this goal by eat healthier and being more active...


on the long term list I would like to reach 230LBS for my 30th Birthday in November...


I have a journal and will begin to log my workouts and meals....
I have a photo shoot with my honey this weekend... to take some before & after pictures :thumbup1::thumbup1::thumbup1:

Cant wait to see the transformation....

[frank85]

Another Great Diet day :biggrin:

I even had time to squeez in my mid afternoon snack (Tuna & Corn):thumbup1:

[perry]

Date Weight
01/01/09 - 254
01/08/09 - 254
01/15/09 - 253
01/22/09 - 253
01/29/09 - 251
02/05/09 - 251
02/12/09 - 250


I think that this week's is skewed by being sick yesterday and today. My diet wasn't great and I didn't exercise either day. I hope I feel better tomorrow and can do something.. even a 30 minute ride on an easy level on the stationary bike would be good. This should have been week 5 of podrunner intervals, and I'll probably end up doing a couple of the runs, but I'll do week 5 again next week since this one is going to be messed up.

[Confuzius]

Date --- Weight - BMI
01/09/09 - 249 - 32.18
01/16/09 - 244 - 31.54
01/23/09 - 239 - 30.89
01/30/09 - 236 - 30.50
02/06/09 - 235 - 30.37
02/13/09 - 233 - 30.12

All these weights are at work with clothes and shoes on, I'm about 5lbs lighter at home, and only "obese" when I'm fully dressed :-)

[SepticTank]

On Wednesday:
6.21km in 22' (same route as yesterday - obviously I detoured slightly - but I was still quicker! yay!)

On Thursday
Indeed - which is why today rather than be beaten off exercise altogether by the snow, I cleared the new snow off the drive - 3" of snow off 80 square metres of drive - manually with a shovel and brush.

For those keeping tabs, the school closed again today - when there was less than ½" on the ground.

Today - the same route as Wednesday, 6.18km in 21'40" (so quicker again - soon I might even be able to fit in a second lap :lol:)

[frank85]

Today I did a short commute to work on my mountain bike :biggrin:
5.2 miles in 38 minutes

I arrived at work in 1 piece... :thumbup1::thumbup1::thumbup1:

I mapped my ride (http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/fl/miami/222172539544) :thumbup1::thumbup1::thumbup1:


I did well in the Diet department this week... not so well in the exercising department... I had a fever two nights in a row...

No not a fever for more COWBELL....

[frank85]

alright I am preparing for my afternoon ride... I will post my progress first thing tomorrow morning...

[SepticTank]

On Friday

Today - the same route as Wednesday, 6.18km in 21'40" (so quicker again - soon I might even be able to fit in a second lap :lol:)

Same route as Friday - 6.17km (dunno where I took the 10m shortcut lol) but 19.5'

[King of Kailua]

I'm so far off the wagon these days!!

Been sick with a cold and flu like symptoms since friday. Something is vectoring around the University and it was my time to "share the love". I'm pretty predictable when it comes to getting a bug. I feel like I'm starting to come down with something, and at the first hint of my immunity being compromised I push myself with a work out or some other nonsensical extra curricular activity. I went for a 6 mile paddle in the late afternoon rain and of course I am paying for it now. I've been in and out and in bed for three days.

I've work to do! :mad:

Meanwhile the GF is running laps around me on the treadmill, doing tabatas, and paddling like a fiend. I've got some major catch up work to do when I get better:rolleyes:

[frank85]

I'm so far off the wagon these days!!

Been sick with a cold and flu like symptoms since friday. Something is vectoring around the University and it was my time to "share the love". I'm pretty predictable when it comes to getting a bug. I feel like I'm starting to come down with something, and at the first hint of my immunity being compromised I push myself with a work out or some other nonsensical extra curricular activity. I went for a 6 mile paddle in the late afternoon rain and of course I am paying for it now. I've been in and out and in bed for three days.

I've work to do! :mad:

Meanwhile the GF is running laps around me on the treadmill, doing tabatas, and paddling like a fiend. I've got some major catch up work to do when I get better:rolleyes:


Take some extra vitamins and get back to work...

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

[frank85]

I am about to go do some tabatas any tips, suggestions, or ideas?

I am going to shoot for 6 intervals this will be my first time doing it...

:tongue_sm

[King of Kailua]

I am about to go do some tabatas any tips, suggestions, or ideas?

I am going to shoot for 6 intervals this will be my first time doing it...

:tongue_sm

What did you try?

By intervals did you mean stations? if so, does that mean you went to 6 stations for X number of rounds? What where they, and how many rounds did you do?

[frank85]

No I am about to head to the gym in about 30 minutes or so...
I think I am only doing the elliptical machine ...

aside from my back workout...

[Kratos]

6 intervals is good to start. I usually go with 8 20 sec. sets with 10 sec. rests in between. It is quite humbling. I need to work them in more often. The other exercise I like to use is the front squat.

[SRock]

Dreadmill today. There was too much ice and snow on the ground to run outside.

I did 3.38 miles in 29 minutes. It was a good run.

Oh and I'm down another lb to 186.

[SepticTank]

Same route as Friday - 6.17km (dunno where I took the 10m shortcut lol) but 19.5'

Different route due to standing water today - 5.08km in 16 mins - new top speed set too - 50.62km/h :w00t:

[frank85]

I tried my best to get some tabatas in yesterday....

I got on the elliptical machine and set the timer to 6 minutes and tried to complete as many intervals withing that time... (I lost count)

WOW I felt great.... and got plenty of stares at the gym LOL

No weight lost yet... Well maybe a little from 285LBS to 278LBS

:biggrin:

Can I do tabatas everyday?

I am going to try it again tonight for another 6 minutes...

[rabidpotatochip]

Checking on for the first time in about a week...

Weight's staying the same, which is a little frustrating, but it's now safe to say that my endurance has at least doubled and my upper body is clearly showing muscle mass. Yay for aerobics and isometric exercise.

[frank85]

Checking on for the first time in about a week...

Weight's staying the same, which is a little frustrating, but it's now safe to say that my endurance has at least doubled and my upper body is clearly showing muscle mass. Yay for aerobics and isometric exercise.

Keep up the good work and don't worry about weight loss... you will see & feel the results in time...

Stay upbeat and motivated...
Keep up the good work. :biggrin:

[ouch]

Dreadmill today. There was too much ice and snow on the ground to run outside.

I did 3.38 miles in 29 minutes. It was a good run.

Oh and I'm down another lb to 186.

Fantastic. Keep plugging away.

I can't wait to get back to my normal routine.

[yardpup01]

Down another pound to 215, but my waist hasn't gotten any smaller. Did an upperbody lift yesterday, and 30 min on the stationary bike today.

[Mrs. Chip]

I'm part of The Spark community too (dedicated to healthy weight loss and eating) and I found this article about fat that was really interesting.
http://www.dailyspark.com/blog.asp?post=quiz_how_much_do_you_really_know_abo ut_fat

[SRock]

3.38 miles worth of intervals on the dreadmill. Running at 8 mph and jogging at 5 mph for 30 minutes.

[SepticTank]

Different route due to standing water today - 5.08km in 16 mins - new top speed set too - 50.62km/h :w00t:

Talking to the local cycling guru he suggested I try a longer route...

13.11km in 40' - uphill all the way (it seemed :lol:)

[SepticTank]

Talking to the local cycling guru he suggested I try a longer route...

13.11km in 40' - uphill all the way (it seemed :lol:)

Errands to run today - so only managed 6.5km in 20'

[Gruder]

Everyone's progress and commitment is really inspiring right now. I've fallen off the proverbial wagon over the last week as job search stress has reached fever pitch (with thankfully positive results). I shall remount the wagon at present. Thanks for your encouraging posts!

[Sullybob]

Gruder,
Some things take priority over working out. Like finding another job. Congratulations on the new job.

I have also fallen off the wagon, sickness and then school is kicking my rear end. I didn't work out at all last week. I started back today. 35 minutes on the elliptical. Good times.

I plan on adding weight lifting next week. I feel that my cardio is pretty good and I need to start building some lean muscle mass.

[cynical1]

Everyone's progress and commitment is really inspiring right now. I've fallen off the proverbial wagon over the last week as job search stress has reached fever pitch (with thankfully positive results). I shall remount the wagon at present. Thanks for your encouraging posts!

I too am facing the challenge of keeping energized and focused on my fitness goals as I continue my transition from the military to the civilian sector (in other words, I'm outta work).

With all the extra time I'd like to think it equals more time devoted to exercise which looks great on paper. In reality though, I've always thought when you don't have a job, your full time job is finding a job. Unfortunately this "job" has me working more hours than my last :confused:

Positive leads abound though so I'm at LEAST staying away from bad food and am trying to devote at least an hour each day to exercise, more for stress management/release than fitness at this point I think.

Glad to hear you've had positive results on your search, and I hope to be joining you among the ranks of the employed wet shaver shortly!

On the bright side, my shaves can take as long as they take and I'm doing very well :lol:

___________________
Steve

[1OldGI]

I got weight problems too, but mine is exactly oposite. 62kg/183cm / 137 lbs/6'

I think one of my legs ways 137 lbs! I myself would like to drop about 35-40 pounds. I'm sure I'd have a lot more energy if I got into the habit of daily exercise but the problem is most of the time I just don't have the energy to get around to it. I'm not horribly fat but I'm sure not skinny either, I'm on my way to being George Castanza! When I buy clothes I tell them I'm looking for the short fat section :lol: On a brighter note though, I stand convinced that my prodigious girth is definitely one of the few things I have that is actually paid for.

[rabidpotatochip]

I think one of my legs ways 137 lbs! I myself would like to drop about 35-40 pounds. I'm sure I'd have a lot more energy if I got into the habit of daily exercise but the problem is most of the time I just don't have the energy to get around to it. I'm not horribly fat but I'm sure not skinny either, I'm on my way to being George Castanza! When I buy clothes I tell them I'm looking for the short fat section :lol: On a brighter note though, I stand convinced that my prodigious girth is definitely one of the few things I have that is actually paid for.

When I got out of the hospital from my accident I barely had enough energy to stay awake for five minutes, literally. You know what I had to do? The same as you have to do, get up and move as much as possible anyway. If you wait till you have the energy it will never come, ever. Even if you just walk for 15-20 minutes a day you'll notice a difference in your energy level. If you're not literally falling asleep on your feet you have enough energy to exercise. It doesn't have to be anything fancy, but you'd better do it.

I assume you want to get some exercise in since you're posting in this thread, so consider this your motivational speech. :devil:

[frank85]

So I am doing this thingy here for MS...
I think its call Bike for MS MS150 Break away to Key Largo....

What have I gotten myself into... :lol::lol::lol:

I now need to train harder in order to endure the 150 mile bike ride ohhh boy...
I am in for it now....


This weeks diet was great...Kashi meals for lunch.... plenty of fruits for snacks throughout the day...
This week I also introduced Tabatas to my daily routine...

and now I need to ride my bike a bit longer to build the endurance :w00t::w00t::w00t:

02/02/2009 285 LBS
02/20/2009 274 LBS

[SepticTank]

Errands to run today - so only managed 6.5km in 20'

I took a detour today, which involved 3 (to me) harsh climbs - short ones but I suffered doing them - that you don't notice when you're in the car.

11.25km in 31'

[ouch]

I took a detour today, which involved 3 (to me) harsh climbs - short ones but I suffered doing them - that you don't notice when you're in the car.

11.25km in 31'

You're going to be a killer by summertime.

[SRock]

Dreadmill (man I can't wait to run outside):

3.88 Miles
35:00

[SepticTank]

You're going to be a killer by summertime.

Once it gets about 15C/59F I'll probably die :lol:

I hate heat - it's why I moved to Scotland - first summer we were here it hit 32C/90F :eek: - which I think should be outlawed as inhuman - thankfully the last couple have been more reasonable - others would moan about the wet lol.

[SepticTank]

and now I need to ride my bike a bit longer to build the endurance :w00t::w00t::w00t:

I was talking to the local bike guru (http://www.borderpetfoodsupplies.co.uk/mind_vietnam.html) here (he cycled the length of Vietnam for charity amongst other insane rides he's undertaken in the past) and his recommendation was this:

A week of cycling to the next village and back (about 4 miles per trip)
A week of cycling to the 2nd village and back (about 8 miles per trip)
A week of cycling to the 3rd village and back (about 12 miles per trip)
A week of cycling to the 4th village and back (about 20 miles per trip)

He reckoned after that regime you'd be ready for anything.

[frank85]

I was talking to the local bike guru (http://www.borderpetfoodsupplies.co.uk/mind_vietnam.html) here (he cycled the length of Vietnam for charity amongst other insane rides he's undertaken in the past) and his recommendation was this:

A week of cycling to the next village and back (about 4 miles per trip)
A week of cycling to the 2nd village and back (about 8 miles per trip)
A week of cycling to the 3rd village and back (about 12 miles per trip)
A week of cycling to the 4th village and back (about 20 miles per trip)

He reckoned after that regime you'd be ready for anything.

nice....

Well I am doing the short end commute to work on Fridays that's 11 miles round trip...

Then I have a training route around my neighborhood that is a total of 9 miles and I have been doing that route now for about two weeks...

Tonight I have a new route around a golf course 15.6 miles I will try that out tonight and let you know how that goes..

[cynical1]

A week of cycling to the next village and back (about 4 miles per trip)
A week of cycling to the 2nd village and back (about 8 miles per trip)
A week of cycling to the 3rd village and back (about 12 miles per trip)
A week of cycling to the 4th village and back (about 20 miles per trip)

I remember a time when I was in shape, I did a charity ride from Montreal, CAN to Portland, ME, about 450 miles over 5 days. I trained for day two on day one, day three on day two, etc. When did all this become such work!? :confused:

__________
Steve

[frank85]

At the rate that I am going I will have to ride everyday to get in better riding shape... :confused:

[rabidpotatochip]

20 minutes of nothing but intense core work last night. Barely managed to peel myself off the floor. This morning they closed the railroad tracks I normally get to drive across for maintenance, so my trip to work involved almost an hour of driving and 15 minutes of walking in -25°C windchill without gloves.

I'm dying here... :lol:

[frank85]

20 minutes of nothing but intense core work last night. Barely managed to peel myself off the floor. This morning they closed the railroad tracks I normally get to drive across for maintenance, so my trip to work involved almost an hour of driving and 15 minutes of walking in -25°C windchill without gloves.

I'm dying here... :lol:

nice .... how are your hands doing? :tongue_sm

[rabidpotatochip]

nice .... how are your hands doing? :tongue_sm

Surprisingly well. I had to carry some stuff so I bundled my hoodie in such a way that it functioned both as a bag and a mitten for my free hand while the other was in my pocket. The only downside to that method is that I did have to give up some insulation on my torso and will probably be paying for it later.

[ouch]

I hate heat - it's why I moved to Scotland - first summer we were here it hit 32C/90F :eek: - which I think should be outlawed as inhuman

Sorry, but I've noticed that thare's an inverse relation between the temperature gauge and the amount of clothes that women wear, so see ya in Arizona.

[JaeBeam]

Well, I'm a noobie to Wetshaving, but not to working out.

I used to run a lot. Then I quit to play ice hockey, weight lift and bicycle. (www.RAGBRAI.org)

Now I'm back to running. I want to break a 21:00 5k. To that end I've set a goal of running 30-35 miles a week in March, and 40-45 miles a week April->October, and see how close that gets me.

I did a 21:50 with 20-25 miles a week back in December.

If you have any running questions, drop me a PM and I can give you a relatively informed opinion!

[SepticTank]

Sorry, but I've noticed that thare's an inverse relation between the temperature gauge and the amount of clothes that women wear, so see ya in Arizona.

But when it's that hot, proximity is the last thing on your or their minds... so see you in Regina, SK :biggrin:

[rabidpotatochip]

But when it's that hot, proximity is the last thing on your or their minds... so see you in Regina, SK :biggrin:

That right there proves you're not Canadian. It's a well-known fact there are no women in Regina. :biggrin:

My wife is going to kill me for this, but you should go to Calgary, AB to check out the weather. :ihih:

[SepticTank]

That right there proves you're not Canadian. It's a well-known fact there are no women in Regina. :biggrin:

My wife is going to kill me for this, but you should go to Calgary, AB to check out the weather. :ihih:

It was a double-bluff - while you're in Regina, I'll be at an undisclosed log-cabin snowed in with only weather for company :biggrin:

[rabidpotatochip]

It was a double-bluff - while you're in Regina, I'll be at an undisclosed log-cabin snowed in with only weather for company :biggrin:

I was wondering who the Scottish guy in my house was. :lol:

[Gruder]

That right there proves you're not Canadian. It's a well-known fact there are no women in Regina. :biggrin:

If only I could think of some sort of fitting limerick to commemorate this post...:biggrin:

Welcome to the club JaeBeam!

[cynical1]

If only I could think of some sort of fitting limerick to commemorate this post...:biggrin:

Welcome to the club JaeBeam!

Limerick is a town about 190km SouthWest of Regina

[Kratos]

Today I'm going to add an Iron Gym to my equipment roster. That will be a big help, enabling me to do pull-ups at home, every day if I want to. The Perfect Pushups are great as well. I think 3 miles sounds like a good run for today. Hope everybody's routine are going well!

[frank85]

Weight Check....

2/23/2009 - 274LBS

despite a horrible weekend (Food Wise) I was able to squeeze in a nice workout last night after a 3 day rest....

Chest & Bi's & Cardio on the Stepper... Burned 1100 calories and boy I am in a lot of pain today....

I plan on getting to bed early to get some morning cardio at 5:am before breakfast

Sweet

[SepticTank]

I took a detour today, which involved 3 (to me) harsh climbs - short ones but I suffered doing them - that you don't notice when you're in the car.

11.25km in 31'

Today was a repeat of last Wednesday (18th)

13.10km in 39' (so I did it 2' quicker :smile:)

[King of Kailua]

Well after being out sick with the flu for more than a week, I am freshly shaved, and preparing for the bounce back. It was a tough week as the bug went back and forth between my gf and I. She still has it.

I'm not getting back into the water yet, but I plan to do some treadmill action after school if all goes well.

[sapito318]

I'm in. I could use to lose a few lbs, but not much. I am 6'2", 180 lbs, size 36x34 and 21 years old. 180 is really my ideal weight, but I want it to be muscle, not fat...
What I really need to do is just get into shape. I am going to follow DunedinRanger's lead and make a pact with myself to not buy anymore shave stuff until I am in shape enough to run a 6 minute mile again.

I am switching to water and diet coke, along with plenty of fruits and veggies. No more ice cream sandwiches or Garden Salsa Sun Chips!!

Best of luck to all!

-Matt

[DunEdinRanger]

Well, I am now committed. Committed to running the 2009 New York City Marathon. So, I really have to get my fat rear end in gear.

March 8th will be a glorious day because that is when we return to daylight savings time! :biggrin: And that means more time to run outside after work! :001_smile


Well, I'm a noobie to Wetshaving, but not to working out.

I used to run a lot. Then I quit to play ice hockey, weight lift and bicycle. (www.RAGBRAI.org (http://www.RAGBRAI.org))

Now I'm back to running. I want to break a 21:00 5k. To that end I've set a goal of running 30-35 miles a week in March, and 40-45 miles a week April->October, and see how close that gets me.

I did a 21:50 with 20-25 miles a week back in December.

If you have any running questions, drop me a PM and I can give you a relatively informed opinion!

You're going to have to mix up some speed work, the miles will get you the stamina, but to break 21 you need to run 6:45 miles, roughly. Get on a track and run some quarters at or below that race pace. Then hammer the last one. Then do one more at that pace. You have to train the body to run well even when it is tired.

I don't know what you're splits are, but I am a big supporter of negative splits - where you run the last half faster than the first. Never use your energy up in the first mile.


I'm in. I could use to lose a few lbs, but not much. I am 6'2", 180 lbs, size 36x34 and 21 years old. 180 is really my ideal weight, but I want it to be muscle, not fat...
What I really need to do is just get into shape. I am going to follow DunedinRanger's lead and make a pact with myself to not buy anymore shave stuff until I am in shape enough to run a 6 minute mile again.

I am switching to water and diet coke, along with plenty of fruits and veggies. No more ice cream sandwiches or Garden Salsa Sun Chips!!

Best of luck to all!

-Matt

Running a few miles will help you catch those pesky zeebas :biggrin: You know, judging by your post, I should be about 6'4", then I'd be close to my ideal weight. :lol:

[DunEdinRanger]

I ran 5K in Brooklyn's Prospect Park. It could also be called the Battle of Prospect Park. Let's forget for a minute that there was a long hike to the start area, regardless of which subway line you took, and forget also the diversions due to necessary repairs on the subway. Forget for a minute about the long walks in the park to get to the baggage area and the start. No, the important thing here are the hills. The relentless, merciless, undulating, unforgiving hills of Prospect Park that constantly curve with their false crests. It has been said that you can do a loop of this park and still go all uphill the entire distance. :confused::w00t:

One of my friends sent me a note telling not to worry, that the last half of the 5K course was basically flat and downhill. So I ran with that expectation, and with the knowledge that every race is about conservation of energy. You need enough to run well and make it to the finish, and while no one really wants to collapse after crossing the line, there really shouldn't be a lot left in the tank at that point.


For those that have never seen Prospect Park, here is a link to the park http://www.prospectpark.org/visit/interactive_map and the course - http://www.nyrr.org/races/2009/pdf/al_gordon_map.pdf - and let me say that the park is beautiful. But it is not an easy course, and I think the hills are worse than Central Park. So, as a matter of curiosity, I went to mapmyrun.com and plotted out the 5K course from the run. Here's the link - http://www.mapmyrun.com/route/us/ny/brooklyn/500464663813 (http://www.mapmyrun.com/route/us/ny/brooklyn/500464663813)

A casual observer will immediately notice a few things. For example, the start has a half mile long hill.and taking a quick glance at the last half, even a novice runner may safely conclude that it is not downhill!

So, for over 2 miles I did battle with the Hills of Prospect Park with the thought that the last half would be easier. For two miles, the
winding, curving hills and I faced off to a draw. They weren't quitting and neither was I. After two miles, the prospect of even more hills caused me to falter and The Hills of Prospect Park beat me again.

I was determined that no matter what, I would do the last 0.107 miles as fast as I could. So, despite the serious butt whooping the hills administered to me, I used what strength was left. I dd the final 0.107 miles in 48 seconds, which considering how out of shape I am, is not that bad.

[SepticTank]

Today was a repeat of last Wednesday (18th)

13.10km in 39' (so I did it 2' quicker :smile:)

A different route today, much more undulating. 10.00km in 31'

Also another notch on the belt - so now 4 tighter than it was when I started.

edit: just used the bike to pop to the shop to get some milk... 1.31km in 3 mins (there and back)

[Confuzius]

Date --- Weight - BMI
01/09/09 - 249 - 32.18
01/16/09 - 244 - 31.54
01/23/09 - 239 - 30.89
01/30/09 - 236 - 30.50
02/06/09 - 235 - 30.37
02/13/09 - 233 - 30.12
02/20/09 - 231 - 29.86

A bit late on the update again...

Strapped on a pair of skates for the first time in over 10 years... did 6km along the Rideau Canal in Ottawa, aside from my feet wanting to fall off it wasn't too bad.

[Sullybob]

Snip....
I was determined that no matter what, I would do the last 0.107 miles as fast as I could. So, despite the serious butt whooping the hills administered to me, I used what strength was left. I dd the final 0.107 miles in 48 seconds, which considering how out of shape I am, is not that bad.

I enjoyed your post immensely. Good luck on the marathon. When is the marathon?

I think that your final .107 miles was pretty darn quick. If you could maintain that pace you would be looking at a sub 5 minute mile.

[frank85]

I took a rest day yesterday ...

Tonight Cardio on the stepper

Calves 3 X 20
Abs :thumbup1:

[rabidpotatochip]

We skipped last night but have been otherwise successful. Last night someone noticed Mrs. Chip was toning up, so that was good.

The one downside to building muscle mass is that half my :censored: shirts don't fit properly anymore! :mad:

[Sullybob]

We skipped last night but have been otherwise successful. Last night someone noticed Mrs. Chip was toning up, so that was good.

The one downside to building muscle mass is that half my :censored: shirts don't fit properly anymore! :mad:

That is a good problem. Congratulations.:001_smile

[frank85]

We skipped last night but have been otherwise successful. Last night someone noticed Mrs. Chip was toning up, so that was good.

The one downside to building muscle mass is that half my :censored: shirts don't fit properly anymore! :mad:

keep it up pretty soon we will see you shopping at French Connection and walking shirtless in South Beach; Lincoln Road :lol::lol::lol:

[SepticTank]

The one downside to building muscle mass is that half my :censored: shirts don't fit properly anymore! :mad:

The next thing is that you start turning green and bursting out of them, Dr. Banner :lol:

[rabidpotatochip]

That is a good problem. Congratulations.:001_smile

Thanks. This is the longest either of us has kept exercise up, I think it's because we set a deadline and a measurable goal this time around.

Next month (March) we're going to start acquiring some weights and a little bit of equipment to get to the next level. I'm seriously looking at the TRX (http://www.fitnessanywhere.com/suspension_training/index.php) because I've heard it's really good for people with knee injuries and it seems like the right kind of challenge.


keep it up pretty soon we will see you shopping at French Connection and walking shirtless in South Beach on Lincoln Road :lol::lol::lol:

If it ever happens I'll post a pic. :lol:

[frank85]

Tonight's workout...

Hack squats 3X20
Leg Extensions 3X20
Leg Curls 3X20

Cardio Stepper 12 min 10 resistance

Tabatas 6 minutes :)

burned 600 calories in 40 minutes :thumbup1::thumbup1::thumbup1:

[SRock]

Yesterday:

Fartleks (intervals): 1 minute Jog 3 minute run, time 35 minutes, distance 3.38 miles. I almost made one of my troops pass out. He found out just how tough this is. I also convinced him to get a decent pair of running shoes.

Today:

Tempo Run: time 40 minutes, distance 4.22 miles

[frank85]

My first of many 5:00AM morning sessions...

I was a bit slow to get dressed made it to the gym at 5:25....

I started out with a 5 min warmup on the elliptical; finished off the last 5 minutes with tabatas...

followed by another 10 minutes on the stepper....

This afternoon I will work out shoulders :thumbup1:

[SepticTank]

A different route today, much more undulating. 10.00km in 31'

Also another notch on the belt - so now 4 tighter than it was when I started.

edit: just used the bike to pop to the shop to get some milk... 1.31km in 3 mins (there and back)

Windy day today - just did 6.32km in 19' (previous on this route was 20' to do 5.94km)