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Mainecanefan
12-22-2008, 08:23 PM
Well, we've got Festivus postings and Christmas postings. Figured I would take a moment and wish my fellow Jewish shavers a Happy Chanuka. Made some latkes tonight and lit the menorah. Of course, we then decorated the Christmas tree (er...Chanuka bush...ehhh whatever) since the wife is not Jewish. But it's still Chanuka! Enjoy folks.

TimmyBoston
12-22-2008, 08:27 PM
Happy Chanuka!

ravkesef
12-22-2008, 08:33 PM
Happy Chan...Hannu...Hannukk... Festival of Lights!!!!!:tongue_sm

MR.BurmaShave
12-22-2008, 08:40 PM
Happy Hanukkah everyone.

Jared, Just took a look at you location, so your the jewish guy that lives in Maine. I lived in Alaska for a year and being the only jew in the state, I felt like a rock star.

Mainecanefan
12-22-2008, 08:46 PM
I'm not sure that I feel like a rock star here in Maine. There are definitely some places where I tend to think they might try to lynch me if I stroll in with a Jewish star around my neck. The Jews of Maine are a far subtler bunch than the Jews of Florida, whose stock I descend from. I think there were more Jewish kids in my high school in South Florida than there are in the state of Maine currently. Now Alaska...Damn...you probably were the only one. Gefilte probably went over real well there.

johnniegold
12-22-2008, 08:47 PM
To all our friends at B&B who celebrate the Festival of Lights, Happy Hanukkah. :smile:

Mainecanefan
12-22-2008, 08:47 PM
Happy Chan...Hannu...Hannukk... Festival of Lights!!!!!:tongue_sm

This is why I keep it to the simple Chanuka. Don't have to remember how many n's and k's there are.

MR.BurmaShave
12-22-2008, 08:55 PM
This is why I keep it to the simple Chanuka. Don't have to remember how many n's and k's there are.


חנוקה שמח
how's that for simple :tongue_sm

expatCanuck
12-22-2008, 08:59 PM
Well, we've got Festivus postings and Christmas postings. Figured I would take a moment and wish my fellow Jewish shavers a Happy Chanuka. Made some latkes tonight and lit the menorah. Of course, we then decorated the Christmas tree (er...Chanuka bush...ehhh whatever) since the wife is not Jewish. But it's still Chanuka! Enjoy folks.


Happy Chan...Hannu...Hannukk... Festival of Lights!!!!!:tongue_sm


This is why I keep it to the simple Chanuka. Don't have to remember how many n's and k's there are.


חנוקה שמח
how's that for simple :tongue_sm

Isn't transliteration a wonderful thing?

I'm fond of Chanukah or Channukah -- gotta have that 'ch' in front and the 'ah' at the end.

Chag sameach, y'all!

ouch
12-22-2008, 09:15 PM
Happy hanukkah to all of my fellow red sea pedestrians.

You'll be happy to know that I have once again triumphed in our annual game of strip dreidel, utilizing an age old family technique handed down from father to son for generations.
I cheat. :tongue_sm

JBHoren
12-22-2008, 09:39 PM
Happy Chan...Hannu...Hannukk... Festival of Lights!!!!!:tongue_sm


This is why I keep it to the simple Chanuka. Don't have to remember how many n's and k's there are.


חנוקה שמח
how's that for simple :tongue_sm

Simple, yes... and partially incorrect. It should read:

חנוכה שמח

Lynchmeister
12-22-2008, 09:45 PM
Happy Chanuka, people!

ScotchDave
12-22-2008, 11:36 PM
Chag Sameach L'koolam.

I had no idea there were so many of us on this forum...

Anyone got a recipe for sufganyot?

galopede
12-23-2008, 01:23 AM
I went to the "Festival of Lights" in Leicester, England, a few years ago when my daughter was studying at the university there. Only difference was it was Diwali, the Hindu Festival of Lights! Boy do they know how to have a good time! It was like a war zone with the amount of fireworks going off.

So Happy whatever you celebrate to you all!

Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda...

Gareth

Tonyg
12-23-2008, 02:29 AM
HAPPY CHANUKAH!! From one Mainiac to another..................

jazzman
12-23-2008, 04:53 AM
I usually try not to make fun of our great traditions, but this item on eBay caught my attention:





Well, if we can't make fun of ourselves...

dpm802
12-23-2008, 05:04 AM
Isn't transliteration a wonderful thing?

I'm fond of Chanukah or Channukah -- gotta have that 'ch' in front and the 'ah' at the end.

Chag sameach, y'all!

+1

I have a friend who is a language-savant ... speaks 17 languages fluently, and he can muddle through about a hundred others. But he can't get the "CH" sound right ... whether its in Hebrew, Yiddish, German or Dutch.

dpm802
12-23-2008, 05:13 AM
CHOCOLATE COINS on YouTube. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8HvhJ5Os6w)

Anton von Tripp
12-23-2008, 05:17 AM
Well, I'm not Jewish but may I have the honour to wish those that are a Happy Hannukah!
Incidentally, in case anyone wonders what language Gareth's greeting is in - it's Welsh!

Cordial Season's Greetings, AvT.

tortswon
12-23-2008, 05:31 AM
Chappy Chanukah everyone, Celebrating the triumph of freedom over foreign domination is universal making this a happy holiday for all. And there's good stuff to eat! L'chaim! Sam

DunEdinRanger
12-23-2008, 05:52 AM
I'm not Jewish, but Happy Channukah! It is the Festival commemorating the great victory of Judas Maccabeus, the reconquest of the Temple in Jerusalem and it's re-dedication and re-purification by a group of pious men.

Happy Chanukkah!

Aevum
12-23-2008, 06:00 AM
actually.... the story didnt end that well in reality, the bar kohva rebelion at 132 AD ended at 135 after emperor Hadrian gathered some troops and sent general Sextus Julius Severus to lead them, ended in around 590,000 civilan casualties on the jewish side according to roman historians of the time,

also resulted in making the middle east what it is today, as punishment, emparor Hadrian expelled most of the jews from judea, the dispora, banned jewish law, and teaching of the torah, and promised to erase judea off the map, renaming it syria palestina, guess how that came out....

but, anyways, haj sameh

ravkesef
12-23-2008, 12:45 PM
Happy Hanukkah everyone.

Jared, Just took a look at you location, so your the jewish guy that lives in Maine. I lived in Alaska for a year and being the only jew in the state, I felt like a rock star.

Actually, there's a synagogue in Anchorage.

burnwood
12-23-2008, 12:49 PM
Happy Chanuka to everyone regardless if you celebrate it or not.

ravkesef
12-23-2008, 12:49 PM
חנוקה שמח
how's that for simple :tongue_sm

um, err... it's simple enough, but it's mispelled. The correct spelling is חנוכה, i.e., with a kaf, not a kuf.

ravkesef
12-23-2008, 12:52 PM
This is why I keep it to the simple Chanuka. Don't have to remember how many n's and k's there are.

it is an issue, since the first letter of the word in Hebrew doesn't have a precise English equivalent, so it's tough to know whether to go with a ch or h. Most transliterations go for H. As for how many n's and k's, that's easy, because the Hebrew has only 1 n, but there is a dagesh in the letter kaf, thus doubling it. So, the correct spelling would be Hanukkah.
hope this helps.:w00t:

Doc4
12-23-2008, 01:14 PM
Happy Chan...Hannu...Hannukk... Festival of Lights!!!!!:tongue_sm
Yeah, one of them!

You'll be happy to know that I have once again triumphed in our annual game of strip dreidel, utilizing an age old family technique handed down from father to son for generations.
I cheat. :tongue_sm
:001_rolle

"This thread is useless without photos"


it is an issue, since the first letter of the word in Hebrew doesn't have a precise English equivalent, so it's tough to know whether to go with a ch or h. Most transliterations go for H. As for how many n's and k's, that's easy, because the Hebrew has only 1 n, but there is a dagesh in the letter kaf, thus doubling it. So, the correct spelling would be Hanukkah.
hope this helps.:w00t:

So ... everyone ... Happy 8anukkah?

ravkesef
12-23-2008, 02:01 PM
Yeah, one of them!

:001_rolle

"This thread is useless without photos"



So ... everyone ... Happy 8anukkah?

What's really great is when I get correspondence from one of my Hispanic colleagues. There it's Happy Janukah. :smile:

dpm802
12-23-2008, 02:16 PM
it is an issue, since the first letter of the word in Hebrew doesn't have a precise English equivalent, so it's tough to know whether to go with a ch or h. Most transliterations go for H. As for how many n's and k's, that's easy, because the Hebrew has only 1 n, but there is a dagesh in the letter kaf, thus doubling it. So, the correct spelling would be Hanukkah.
hope this helps.:w00t:

When someone wishes me a Happy Chanukah (ch like chair,)
I wish them a Merry Christmas (ch like chair.)

DunEdinRanger
12-23-2008, 02:19 PM
actually.... the story didnt end that well in reality, the bar kohva rebelion at 132 AD ended at 135 after emperor Hadrian gathered some troops and sent general Sextus Julius Severus to lead them, ended in around 590,000 civilan casualties on the jewish side according to roman historians of the time,

also resulted in making the middle east what it is today, as punishment, emparor Hadrian expelled most of the jews from judea, the dispora, banned jewish law, and teaching of the torah, and promised to erase judea off the map, renaming it syria palestina, guess how that came out....

but, anyways, haj sameh

I think you are confused. The victory of Judas Maccabeus was BC, the events of which you refer are AD, and well after the siege of Masada, which if I recall my history was around 70 AD.

DunEdinRanger
12-23-2008, 02:19 PM
When someone wishes me a Happy Chanukah (ch like chair,)
I wish them a Merry Christmas (ch like chair.)

But what if they wish you a Feliz Chanukah? Huh? Huh? :biggrin:

pal
12-23-2008, 02:27 PM
Happy Chanukah!!

dpm802
12-23-2008, 02:30 PM
Actually, there's a synagogue in Anchorage.

My father was a Merchant Seaman, and he traveled all over the world. Every
port he visited, he met Jews. (And he used to tell us that there was a Chinatown everywhere, too.)

He would seek them out by looking for the local synagogue and go there to pray (even though he wasn't religious.)

He was just looking for some people to schmooze and kibbitz with, and someone who could Sprechen Ein Bisselle MommaLoschen.

The Jews he met in foreign ports invariably adopted him like a long-lost son, took him home to meet their families, and feed him a home-cooked meal. They would take him out on the town for drinks, showed him not only the local tourist attractions, but also the hot-spots known only to natives, and generally treated him like visiting royalty. (The fact that he brought them American cigarettes, blue jeans, and other highly desirable trade-goods probably didn't hurt any.)

DirtyDave
12-23-2008, 02:41 PM
My father was a Merchant Seaman, and he traveled all over the world. Every
port he visited, he met Jews. (And he used to tell us that there was a Chinatown everywhere, too.)

He would seek them out by looking for the local synagogue and go there to pray (even though he wasn't religious.)

He was just looking for some people to schmooze and kibbitz with, and someone who could Sprechen Ein Bisselle MommaLoschen.

The Jews he met in foreign ports invariably adopted him like a long-lost son, took him home to meet their families, and feed him a home-cooked meal. They would take him out on the town for drinks, showed him not only the local tourist attractions, but also the hot-spots known only to natives, and generally treated him like visiting royalty. (The fact that he brought them American cigarettes, blue jeans, and other highly desirable trade-goods probably didn't hurt any.)

Great story. Thanks for posting it.

Oh, yes, and Happy Chanuka everyone.

galopede
12-23-2008, 03:54 PM
So how is the CH pronounced? I'm guessing it's similar to the Welsh, sort of an H with phlegm?

Gareth

Doc4
12-23-2008, 04:02 PM
So how is the CH pronounced? I'm guessing it's similar to the Welsh, sort of an H with phlegm?

Gareth

I'm sure our resident pronunciation expert, Raymond Luxury Ouch Yacht, will be able to answer that one ...

Aevum
12-23-2008, 04:07 PM
ah, right, this was the revolt against Antiochus IV at around 165BC, my mistake, wrong revolt, should review my jewish history,

Bluestaco
12-23-2008, 04:55 PM
Happy Hanukkah (spell it how you will, I dunno).

Having grown up in rural northern Utah, I met my first Jewish person at the young age of 35. She is now one of my best friends, and very proud of the distinction of being, as she calls herself, my "first Hebe." (I apologize if that is pejorative in any way. I know only the one Jewish person and, well, it's her word!)

She sent me this today (I'm not bothering with learning to imbed it right now; it would interfere with my drinking):

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FRIWMvXldKg

ouch
12-23-2008, 05:10 PM
When someone wishes me a Happy Chanukah (ch like chair,)
I wish them a Merry Christmas (ch like chair.)


So how is the CH pronounced? I'm guessing it's similar to the Welsh, sort of an H with phlegm?

Gareth


I'm sure our resident pronunciation expert, Raymond Luxury Ouch Yacht, will be able to answer that one ...

Ch as in chair is not even close. There is no English equivalent, and my best mnemonic is to think "hock a loogie", with particular emphasis on a deep, phlegmy cccchhhhhhock.

ouch
12-23-2008, 05:13 PM
But what if they wish you a Feliz Chanukah? Huh? Huh? :biggrin:

Every year I sing that famous Jose Feliciano ditty to my Mexican friends:

Police know my dad, police know my dad.......

Cheech
12-23-2008, 05:27 PM
I always feel a little awkward, as the only gentile in the room with my girlfriend's family. But this year, as they went to light the candles, someone asked, "Who remembers the prayer?" A moment of silence. And then... nothing.

Its nice to know that there are some common threads that unite us all.

Happy Hanukkah!

smoothshaver
12-23-2008, 05:36 PM
Happy Chanukah, folks.
:jump:
We need some candle smilies.

DunEdinRanger
12-23-2008, 05:44 PM
Every year I sing that famous Jose Feliciano ditty to my Mexican friends:

Police know my dad, police know my dad.......

What about that other great classic, "Jingle Peos!"

Mainecanefan
12-23-2008, 05:49 PM
I always feel a little awkward, as the only gentile in the room with my girlfriend's family. But this year, as they went to light the candles, someone asked, "Who remembers the prayer?" A moment of silence. And then... nothing.

Its nice to know that there are some common threads that unite us all.

Happy Hanukkah!

The way to impress your girlfriend's family during that moment of silence would be to mutter the following under your breath- Baruch Atah Adonai... Pretty much every Jewish prayer starts like that. My stepson (not Jewish) learned that the Jewish girls dig the gentile guys who can get those three words out of their mouths, of course you better get the pronunciation right. Learn how to do the ccccchhhh the right way and you will have friends forever. Even better, join them in some gefilte fish with horseradish and you are as good as gold.

JBHoren
12-23-2008, 05:52 PM
Click HERE (http://www.horen.org.il/tmp/Chanukah-TL.mp3)

DunEdinRanger
12-23-2008, 06:15 PM
The way to impress your girlfriend's family during that moment of silence would be to mutter the following under your breath- Baruch Atah Adonai... Pretty much every Jewish prayer starts like that. My stepson (not Jewish) learned that the Jewish girls dig the gentile guys who can get those three words out of their mouths, of course you better get the pronunciation right. Learn how to do the ccccchhhh the right way and you will have friends forever. Even better, join them in some gefilte fish with horseradish and you are as good as gold.

Blessed are you, Eternal our God... and the drawback is that some old uncle will then say, "Wonderful! Go ahead and finish the prayer!" At least, that's what I would do, just because I enjoy being a curmudgeon. :biggrin:

expatCanuck
12-24-2008, 12:25 AM
Ch as in chair is not even close. There is no English equivalent, and my best mnemonic is to think "hock a loogie", with particular emphasis on a deep, phlegmy cccchhhhhhock.Or just plain "Achhh!"

Mainecanefan
12-24-2008, 04:29 AM
Blessed are you, Eternal our God... and the drawback is that some old uncle will then say, "Wonderful! Go ahead and finish the prayer!" At least, that's what I would do, just because I enjoy being a curmudgeon. :biggrin:


You and my father would get along swimmingly.

jazzman
12-24-2008, 10:25 AM
Blessed are you, Eternal our God... and the drawback is that some old uncle will then say, "Wonderful! Go ahead and finish the prayer!" At least, that's what I would do, just because I enjoy being a curmudgeon. :biggrin:

I happen to be that old uncle.:lol:

TstebinsB
12-24-2008, 01:22 PM
The Jewish grandfather that I never had - my 6th grade teacher - used to say I had a lot of chutzpah. I'd tell him that I was looking for a nice Jewish girl to bring home to mother. Like a traditional Jewish wedding, I'd let him arrange it. He'd laugh. Then I'd tell him to stop holding out. He'd say to come back to him in a few years. Of course, we both knew that he had diabetes and was dying. A great man was he. I always think of him this time of the year.

Happy Chanukkah to all!

ravkesef
12-24-2008, 07:17 PM
__________________
ah, right, this was the revolt against Antiochus IV at around 165BC, my mistake, wrong revolt, should review my jewish history,

actually.... the story didnt end that well in reality, the bar kohva rebelion at 132 AD ended at 135 after emperor Hadrian gathered some troops and sent general Sextus Julius Severus to lead them, ended in around 590,000 civilan casualties on the jewish side according to roman historians of the time,

also resulted in making the middle east what it is today, as punishment, emparor Hadrian expelled most of the jews from judea, the dispora, banned jewish law, and teaching of the torah, and promised to erase judea off the map, renaming it syria palestina, guess how that came out....

but, anyways, haj sameh
I think you are confused. The victory of Judas Maccabeus was BC, the events of which you refer are AD, and well after the siege of Masada, which if I recall my history was around 70 AD.

actually, you're both right. Here's the timeline in brief:
165 BCE revolt of Judah the Hasmonean, known as Maccabee, against Antiochus, ruler of the Seleucid empire. Despite numerically inferior odds, Judah wins, the Temple is regained and purified. (BTW--Judah doesn't know anything about an oil story. That comes up for the first time several centuries later. ) He decrees a festival to be known as Sukkot in Kislev, to be observed for 8 days because when Sukkot (an 8 day festival) occurred, the war was in progress, and they didn't have the opportunity to observe it. The Hasmoneans claim the crown, a real no-no, because they were priests, and priests are forbidden to rule. they become terrible despots.

70 CE, under roman oppression (yes--the Romans overthrew the Hasmoneans,) a revolt is started by a group known as Zealots . The revolt is ill-advised, and more sensible folk (such as Yochanan ben Zakkai,) tell them that there's no way they can win against Rome, but the Zealots have Judah Maccabee as their role model, and believe that with God on their side, they can easily overcome the numerically superior Romans. The Romans, under Vespasian, then Titus, defeat the Jews, though the war is far longer than the Romans had imagined it could be--some 3 years, with the 10th legion being brought in all the way from Britain. the consequences are disastrous for the Jews--the Temple is destroyed, thousands are killed, and the destruction is vast and widespread.
Over the next several years, there are a number of minor revolts, and Rome puts them down.
In the year 135 CE, the Jews revolt again, this time under the leadership of Bar Kochba, believed by some to be the Messiah, by others to be a reincarnation of Judah Maccabee, or even of David. but the Zealots know, that even though they have lost in the past, they can't lose this one, because God is on their side, and they Judah Maccabee for a role model. Again, the war is long and costly for Rome, and the Emperor Hadrian is determined that this time the Jews will be left with no possibility of revolt. Again, the destruction is widespread, the death toll enormous. But it doesn't quite put an end to Jewish dreams for independence. Some years later, the oil story is born, its message being that one should not rely upon military might to achieve independence, but solely upon the intervention of divine providence. the role of Judah Maccabee is pushed to the background, and he comes to be viewed as simply an instrument for God to work his miracles, rather than a brilliant military leader.
hope this helps.

ouch
12-24-2008, 10:10 PM
__________________

actually, you're both right. Here's the timeline in brief:
165 BCE revolt of Judah the Hasmonean, known as Maccabee, against Antiochus, ruler of the Seleucid empire................

Blah blah blah. Let me give you the short version. Every Jewish holiday story begins the same way:


The Jews were on the run.......

Cheech
12-25-2008, 12:52 AM
The way to impress your girlfriend's family during that moment of silence would be to mutter the following under your breath- Baruch Atah Adonai... Pretty much every Jewish prayer starts like that. My stepson (not Jewish) learned that the Jewish girls dig the gentile guys who can get those three words out of their mouths, of course you better get the pronunciation right. Learn how to do the ccccchhhh the right way and you will have friends forever. Even better, join them in some gefilte fish with horseradish and you are as good as gold.

Man, if only I had known that years ago... I know her mother is greatly amused whenever I can get out anything in Hebrew. Even asking for the bread.

Better late than never, though.