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rodd
09-05-2008, 07:14 PM
I am entirely obsessed wit the "Tuckaway family" of razors, and I thought I would share some information I have collected for those interested. If you aren't interested in the details below, feel free to just look at the pictures. ;)
Most images are links to a larger version.


http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/normal_IMG_1202.JPG
(http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_1202.JPG)
This is the actual Tuckaway set. It is a New Improved, so the blade is held in place by the posts. These are the only ones that are actually Tuckaways, and the top inside of the case actually has "Tuckaway" printed on it. The handles on my 3 have different things printed on them. The silver one just has Pat. Jan 13 1920, while both of the gold ones say Pat Jan 13 1920 USA. The heads all have the Gillette diamond on one side and USA on the other. The blade case is the common "Zippo" style that open so you can see one edge of the blade.
They were available in Silver and Gold. This silver one is in rough shape, but it is just a place holder for now.

http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/normal_IMG_1203.JPG
(http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_1203.JPG)
This is a NEW Norfolk with Tuckaway handle. The case is identical except that the "Tuckaway" is gone from the top inside. The head is a New head, with a flat bottom. This particular one was made in Canada. The Canadian ones have printed on the handles "Patented 1920" and the head has the diamond Gillette logo, and "Made in Canada" On my USA one, (just the razor) the handle reads "Pat Jan 13 1920 USA - Other patents pending" and the head has the Gillette Diamond logo and "Made in USA" The blade cases are engraved and open so that you can see the entire blade. I have not yet seen one of these in Silver, but that does not mean they were not available. I just still need one. ;)

http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/normal_bar_handles.jpg (http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/bar_handles.jpg)
http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/normal_IMG_1228.JPG http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/normal_IMG_1229.JPG

This is the NEW Norfolk with Bar handle. The handle is like the common bar handle NEW, but shorter. These cases are the same as the above, with one minor exception on the gold one. This gold case has a different latch than I have ever seen before. It has a switch that locks/opens the case, rather than the push button. I have not been able to find another yet, but I think it is actually more secure. I assumed it was a Norfolk w/ Bar handle thing, but my silver one is the other way. There is no print on the handles. The heads read "Made in USA" have the diamond logo, Patent numbers and reissue patent numbers. The blade cases on these two are actually different. The gold one is a C shape, that you just slide blades out of, while the silver one opens like the Norfolk with Tuckaway handle. I am not sure if this was a mid run change, or if it was a silver/gold thing, any info would be appreciated.

http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/normal_IMG_0728.JPG (http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0728.JPG)http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/normal_IMG_0732.JPG (http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0732.JPG)

This is a Milady Decolletee. These were offered in New Improved, and NEW generations. The only one I currently have is a NEW. They were available in three case colors, Jade (green), Natural (white/gray), and this Orange. They have the Tuckaway style handle, and the "Zippo style" blade case.
The handle on the NEW style is printed ""Pat Jan 13 1920 USA - Other patents pending""

There are still a lot more variations I am looking for. For example, the Chatsworth, which is basically a Tuckaway with a pinstripe engraved case and blade case, and each of the Milady case sets. There are also cases that just have a different design on the outside. So far all of mine have the same common link design. I am always looking for sets with minor changes, like the latch on the one above, or made in a different country, or different blade cases etc. If anyone has any more info on anything from this family I would love to hear more.

http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/normal_IMG_1208.JPG (http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_1208.JPG)

copperhead
09-05-2008, 07:17 PM
Rodd, excellent post.

Groundhog
09-05-2008, 08:10 PM
+1...I like 'em Rodd. I've got a couple myself. I really like those Norfolks with the short bar handle. I need to find one of those..

rodd
09-05-2008, 08:14 PM
+1...I like 'em Rodd. I've got a couple myself. I really like those Norfolks with the short bar handle. I need to find one of those..

Thanks! I've been looking for months for one, then I find 2 in a week. I posted my Gold score, and Tinkerputzer offered the silver one when he saw it. Thanks again Tinkerputzer!

thirdeye
09-05-2008, 08:17 PM
Rodd, This is a simple awesome post. In the upcoming weeks I will be expecting you to chime in an a thread I'll be doing.

Great collection sir. Good stuff....

Tinkerputzer
09-05-2008, 09:42 PM
Thanks! I've been looking for months for one, then I find 2 in a week. I posted my Gold score, and Tinkerputzer offered the silver one when he saw it. Thanks again Tinkerputzer!

No problem! Glad to see it go to a good home. Very nicely done on the thread Rodd. I'll be on the lookout for more tuckaways for ya :001_smile

Gruder
09-06-2008, 04:45 AM
This is a great post Rodd. Really helpful. Thanks!

redbike
09-06-2008, 05:09 AM
+1...I like 'em Rodd. I've got a couple myself. I really like those Norfolks with the short bar handle. I need to find one of those..

Scott,

I have one if you want it. It's pictured in this thread - never sold.

I just looked it over. It's in very good cosmetic condition.

PM if interested.

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=17867&highlight=norfolk

wtruitt
09-06-2008, 07:09 AM
THx Rodd.. I love when someone learns a great deal on this and shares their knowledge with us! Thank you! Wayne
I am entirely obsessed wit the "Tuckaway family" of razors, and I thought I would share some information I have collected for those interested. If you aren't interested in the details below, feel free to just look at the pictures. ;)
Most images are links to a larger version.


http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/normal_IMG_1202.JPG
(http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_1202.JPG)
This is the actual Tuckaway set. It is a New Improved, so the blade is held in place by the posts. These are the only ones that are actually Tuckaways, and the top inside of the case actually has "Tuckaway" printed on it. The handles on my 3 have different things printed on them. The silver one just has Pat. Jan 13 1920, while both of the gold ones say Pat Jan 13 1920 USA. The heads all have the Gillette diamond on one side and USA on the other. The blade case is the common "Zippo" style that open so you can see one edge of the blade.
They were available in Silver and Gold. This silver one is in rough shape, but it is just a place holder for now.

http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/normal_IMG_1203.JPG
(http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_1203.JPG)
This is a NEW Norfolk with Tuckaway handle. The case is identical except that the "Tuckaway" is gone from the top inside. The head is a New head, with a flat bottom. This particular one was made in Canada. The Canadian ones have printed on the handles "Patented 1920" and the head has the diamond Gillette logo, and "Made in Canada" On my USA one, (just the razor) the handle reads "Pat Jan 13 1920 USA - Other patents pending" and the head has the Gillette Diamond logo and "Made in USA" The blade cases are engraved and open so that you can see the entire blade. I have not yet seen one of these in Silver, but that does not mean they were not available. I just still need one. ;)

http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/normal_bar_handles.jpg (http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/bar_handles.jpg)
http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/normal_IMG_1228.JPG http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/normal_IMG_1229.JPG

This is the NEW Norfolk with Bar handle. The handle is like the common bar handle NEW, but shorter. These cases are the same as the above, with one minor exception on the gold one. This gold case has a different latch than I have ever seen before. It has a switch that locks/opens the case, rather than the push button. I have not been able to find another yet, but I think it is actually more secure. I assumed it was a Norfolk w/ Bar handle thing, but my silver one is the other way. There is no print on the handles. The heads read "Made in USA" have the diamond logo, Patent numbers and reissue patent numbers. The blade cases on these two are actually different. The gold one is a C shape, that you just slide blades out of, while the silver one opens like the Norfolk with Tuckaway handle. I am not sure if this was a mid run change, or if it was a silver/gold thing, any info would be appreciated.

http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/normal_IMG_0728.JPG (http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0728.JPG)http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/normal_IMG_0732.JPG (http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0732.JPG)

This is a Milady Decolletee. These were offered in New Improved, and NEW generations. The only one I currently have is a NEW. They were available in three case colors, Jade (green), Natural (white/gray), and this Orange. They have the Tuckaway style handle, and the "Zippo style" blade case.
The handle on the NEW style is printed ""Pat Jan 13 1920 USA - Other patents pending""

There are still a lot more variations I am looking for. For example, the Chatsworth, which is basically a Tuckaway with a pinstripe engraved case and blade case, and each of the Milady case sets. There are also cases that just have a different design on the outside. So far all of mine have the same common link design. I am always looking for sets with minor changes, like the latch on the one above, or made in a different country, or different blade cases etc. If anyone has any more info on anything from this family I would love to hear more.

http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/normal_IMG_1208.JPG (http://www.razorgeek.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_1208.JPG)

RoyalKooparillo
09-06-2008, 10:21 AM
Great post. I especially like your Milady Decolletee, it's sweeeet!

scottydoint
09-06-2008, 11:46 AM
Very cool. I put in a price for an OBO on a Jade milady for $34, but for some reason they accepted somebodys offer of $28:001_huh:. I would have hooked you up too.

rodd
09-06-2008, 02:57 PM
Very cool. I put in a price for an OBO on a Jade milady for $34, but for some reason they accepted somebodys offer of $28:001_huh:. I would have hooked you up too.

I saw that too, and put in an offer. The guy who bought it pretty much bought all of the razors they had for sale, so maybe the worked out a deal.

Hanspleasure
09-06-2008, 10:05 PM
Nice thread Rodd! I'll keep my eyes posted for you as always.

shavewithwhat?
09-08-2008, 06:44 AM
Rodd

have not been as active lately and saw your post - great job

john.crissman
09-08-2008, 07:23 AM
Great pics and info! Many thanks!

rodd
10-24-2008, 05:30 PM
I Picked up another Silver Tuckaway, and noticed another nuance in the cases. Notice the rivots on the front of the top case. Those hold the latch piece in, the one on the bottom does not have them. The only other one I have without rivets is the one that has the switch to open. Anyway, I thought it was interesting...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3214/2970540178_a12c755120.jpg?v=0

scottydoint
10-24-2008, 05:45 PM
cool rodd. My really nice silver tuckaway case doesn't have them either. My other silver one and my gold one and my silver common bar norfolk have them.
I have another silver tuckaway on the way and the case looks like it doesn't have them.

rodd
10-24-2008, 05:52 PM
Sorry Scott, I didn't know that the Tuckaway bug was contagious. :wink:

scottydoint
10-24-2008, 05:56 PM
Sorry Scott, I didn't know that the Tuckaway bug was contagious. :wink:

Ya, Ya, Ya. You were just trying to distract me with tuckaways so I wouldn't pay attention to all the others Gillettes:001_smile

mr-razor
10-25-2008, 12:41 AM
Great post Rod. All Norfolks that I know have the Zippo-like Bladebox. Here are two gold Norfolks with different cases :wink::

http://www.mr-razor.com/Rasierer/The%20NEW/1930s%20NEW%20Norfolk%20gold%20common%20bar%20hand le%20USA.JPG

http://www.mr-razor.com/Rasierer/The%20NEW/1930s%20Norfolk%20gold%20beschriftet-Logo.jpg

rodd
10-25-2008, 05:59 AM
Great post Rod. All Norfolks that I know have the Zippo-like Bladebox. Here are two gold Norfolks with different cases :wink::


Interesting. Also noticed my Norfolk with Tuckaway handle has the flat base plate. I wonder if that is a Canada thing? I have seen quite a few of the bar handle ones each way, zippo style, and the style in mine above. I think they may have been made each way. In mine, if I put the zippo style in them, they won't close properly. I am almost 100% positive it is original, with as many sets I have seen this way.

edit: page 227 of Krumholz shows one like mine.

scoopster
10-25-2008, 06:12 AM
Interesting. Also noticed my Norfolk with Tuckaway handle has the flat base plate. I wonder if that is a Canada thing? I have seen quite a few of the bar handle ones each way, zippo style, and the style in mine above. I think they may have been made each way. In mine, if I put the zippo style in them, they won't close properly. I am almost 100% positive it is original, with as many sets I have seen this way.

edit: page 227 of Krumholz shows one like mine.

If the base plate is flat isn't that a Norfolk Delux? Those are a bit harder to find.

rodd
10-25-2008, 06:18 AM
If the base plate is flat isn't that a Norfolk Delux? Those are a bit harder to find.

:biggrin: Thanks for that. :biggrin: Is it the same for the Miladys?

mr-razor
10-25-2008, 07:27 AM
I think all Norfolks and Miladys with Tuckaway style handle have this flat base plate like a new improved.