Most Over-rated Cream/Soap

[ada8356]

Well Brandon's under-rated thread instantly made me think of a lot more contentious thread topic:

What do you think is the most over-rated, over-hyped shave cream or soap?

From what I have used to date I would cast a vote for Tom's Peppermint. Compared to everything else I have tried, it is by far my least favorite, least fun cream.

Naturally every post in this thread should end with YMMV, IMHO, ASAP, PDQ, XYZ, etc...:001_smile

[Austin]

Arko

[Dennis]

Trumper Violet. YMMV. :biggrin:

[majkeli]

Love the Violet!

Castle Forbes, YMMV. :biggrin:

[kozulich]

Burt's Bees Bay Rum

[AJS]

I'll have to cast another vote against Trumper Violet.

[tryphon]

Well Brandon's under-rated thread instantly made me think of a lot more contentious thread topic:

What do you think is the most over-rated, over-hyped shave cream or soap?

From what I have used to date I would cast a vote for Tom's Peppermint. Compared to everything else I have tried, it is by far my least favorite, least fun cream.

Naturally every post in this thread should end with YMMV, IMHO, ASAP, PDQ, XYZ, etc...:001_smile

I am with you on Tom's peppermint. Uninspiring, unrefreshing, smells like chewed Wrigley's gum...

[rc20007]

taylor's lemon/lime -- smelled like something under my kitchen sink.

[scarface]

All DR Harris creams.

Ya i use them but still.....:001_rolle

[mparker762]

proraso, both soap and cream. More the cream though, since it's more highly hyped.

[ouch]

I like the Trumper's violet, but it's not the be all and end all that some make it out to be. Gives a decent shave, and scent is always subjective.

[AJS]

I dislike GFT Violet so much that I'll have to cast a second vote for it. Shame they couldn't come up with a cream that performed as good as it smelled:thumbdown

[crackstar]

Long live Arko! :lol: :badger: :badger: :jump: :a5: I could live without DR Harris lavender.

Jeff

[PottyDoctor]

Castle Forbes. YMMV, IMHO, ASAP, PDQ, XYZ, etc...:001_rolle

[Agent86]

C&E Almond

[With The Grain]

butter

[CraigK]

I'll second on the C&E Almond Cream and I'm not real crazy about the Nomad Soap. I get a great lather with the soap, but its missing something. The best way to describe is, the slip is missing (glycerin or bentonite clay)?

CraigK

[ajw1976]

Nancy Boy...

[JAG]

I tried Nancy Boy from the sample set from Scotto. I was as disappointed in it as much as I was delighted with the C&E Almond Oil when I first got it.

I think it has to do with expectations (at least in my case). The C&E was such a pleasant surprise that I almost started laughing. But it was my first high end cream.

I had read such ecstatic reviews of the Nancy Boy before it arrived that it couldn't possibly live up to my image.

Bob

[Scotto]

CF, hands down.

[crackstar]

oh, before I forget, another cream I think is too hyped is Truefitt & Hill Grafton, sure it's very nice, but it doesn't compare to Taylors almond.

Jeff

[mrob]

None--I love 'em all!:biggrin:

[greendyk]

Nancy Boy

John

[guenron]

Taylor Avocado! Doesn't even taste good on chips with salsa!

[jfm]

Harris Arlington.

[FuzyBunySlipers]

Another vote for Trumper's Violet. I was disappointed with both scent and shave. However, many people really enjoy this one.

[MJB]

Am I allowed to vote for King of Shaves gel? If so that!

[htownmmm]

Please tell me that its not the Castle Forbes lime that is considered over-rated. :frown:



Marty

[PottyDoctor]

Please tell me that its not the Castle Forbes lime that is considered over-rated. :frown:



Marty


Not. For me it's the Castle Forbes Lavender that's over-rated. YMMV, IMHO, ASAP, PDQ, XYZ, etc...:001_rolle

[jazzbass]

Am I allowed to vote for King of Shaves gel? If so that!
Ditto

Dave

[javyn]

I don't really know exactly how highly or lowly rated C&E Sandalwood is, but I don't think it performs well at all. The lather dries and dissipates quickly,within the time of 2 passes sometimes even, and isn't very slick to me. I find that pretty odd, because it's only Sandalwood that is like that. The Sweet Almond Oil cream works up into a great, moisturizing, rich, longlasting lather.

[Nitrox]

The cream that has disappointed me the most? GFT Coconut oil.
Maybe it's an old stock tube or something, the scent is hardly noticeable and the lather is not that impressive.
Jeff, long live Arko:biggrin::biggrin:, for the price nothing comes close.:thumbup::hand:

[McNutt]

Arko. I'm sure most of us have so serious cash invested in soaps and creams, so what's the big deal about a $2 soap that shaves like it cost $4? I rank it with Palmolive. It's a good no-frills cream, but if I can afford it, I want the frills.

[htownmmm]

Not. For me it's the Castle Forbes Lavender that's over-rated. YMMV, IMHO, ASAP, PDQ, XYZ, etc...:001_rolle


That was a close one :o15: - my SCAD just couldn't accept the fact that the CF Lime wouldn't be worth it (since its next on my list :biggrin: )


Marty

[joel]

Arko, CF, DR Harris = over rated creams

The real winner here though - and the most over-rated product in the shaving world is without question Classic Shavings "Classic Shaving Soap" - truly miserable stuff that makes me yearn for a can of foamy.

[guenron]

Arko, CF, DR Harris = over rated creams

The real winner here though - and the most over-rated product in the shaving world is without question Classic Shavings "Classic Shaving Soap" - truly miserable stuff that makes me yearn for a can of foamy.
Joel, Joel, Joel... How can you say that Classic is overrated? I've never seen anyone rate it higher than subpar..:001_rolle

[kozulich]

I don't really know exactly how highly or lowly rated C&E Sandalwood is, but I don't think it performs well at all. The lather dries and dissipates quickly,within the time of 2 passes sometimes even, and isn't very slick to me. I find that pretty odd, because it's only Sandalwood that is like that. The Sweet Almond Oil cream works up into a great, moisturizing, rich, longlasting lather.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so. I'll be relieved when my current supply is used up (getting close now, man this stuff lasts a long time). To me, I have the classic sandalwood and the C&E on my counter. The classic performs much better than the C&E. Part of it might be because the C&E is hard milled, whereas the classic isn't. But the C&E dries up faster, is less slick, and harder to work into a lather. I have some Mamma Bear on order, and I'm eager to compare Mamma's with these other two.

Now the other interesting thing is that on the straight razor place, classic's soaps get nothing but rave reviews, whereas here, they are not so well regarded. Fascinating that opinions vary so much.

Orest

[ada8356]

I'm gonna have to vote for NB after my terrible shave this AM.

I hadn't used NB in three weeks or so and have been using MB/QED soaps mainly.

This week I've returned to creams and have used GFT Violet and Taylor's Avocado.. both of which kicked NB's butt!

I may use it again tomorrow (although the thought of using the same thing two days in a row makes me sad!) without the Proraso pre to see if that effected the quality of NB for some reason.

[6jokers]

Men-U shave cream. I thought I had pitched this stuff after my 4th consecutive bad shave with it, but I recently found it lurking in a dark corner under my bathroom sink. For all I know, it crawled out of the garbage can.

[1 st class mail]

Classic shavings soap is not all that I was lead to beleive it is. The soap dries out after 30 seconds if you relathher it you just get in a cycle of lathering and not shaving. The two I tried smell great, but are kind of iritating to my skin.

[Tinzien]

taylor's lemon/lime -- smelled like something under my kitchen sink.

Preach on!

[rschul2]

Castle Forbes. Way too overpriced. There are many better alternatives available at more reasonable prices.

[russellnyc]

Cyril Salter Rose. I thought this stuff would be amazing, and instead it's gross. It lathers fine, but then again, so does toothpaste.

[crackstar]

Bruno, Viva Arko for sure! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: However, I just shaved with a soap this morning that's on the same level---Erasmic from the UK.

Jeff

[jduffy]

G.F. Trumpers Violet ain't all that.

And all the love that Proraso gets you'd think it was a cure for Rickets. :wink:

[jazzbass]

Nancy Boy

John
I Agree

Dave

[ada8356]

G.F. Trumpers Violet ain't all that.

And all the love that Proraso gets you'd think it was a cure for Rickets. :wink:

I use Proraso and I don't have the Rickets and I haven't gotten them a single time... so I don't know if it cures 'em, but it obviously prevents them!:biggrin:

[BGog]

Taylor's Avacodo. Lot's of folks love it but I got a tub and I think it smells nasty.

[slomoshun]

I don' like Nancy Boy and all Taylor's (creams and soaps) irritate my face. I'll stick with Proraso and try some Tabac soon

[Joedy]

Overrated to me generally applies to very high and very low priced items and the voices of the masses who profess the overiding qualities and features of these items.

That being said, I feel that most of the perfume house shaving creams are overrated based on price and that most of the cheap brands are overrated based on characteristics that fail to make them unique.

-joedy

[JohnP]

My opinion? Taylors. Sure it is cheaper than Trumper and some of the other creams, but it just isn't the amazing stuff (IMHO) that it is sometimes made out to be. Others perform great, but then charge IMHO an obscene amount for the opportunity (like Castle Forbes-love the stuff, but WOW its expensive)
John P.

[mikey]

hello aaron,

locitaine cade gets my vote for most overrated soap.

thanks,
mike

[rtaylor61]

My opinion? Taylors. Sure it is cheaper than Trumper and some of the other creams, but it just isn't the amazing stuff (IMHO) that it is sometimes made out to be. Others perform great, but then charge IMHO an obscene amount for the opportunity (like Castle Forbes-love the stuff, but WOW its expensive)
John P.

Blasphemer!

Randy

[Lyrt]

Cyril Salter Rose. I thought this stuff would be amazing, and instead it's gross. It lathers fine, but then again, so does toothpaste.
I second that. I’m very much into floral scents and the Salter rose cream is absolutely repulsive. It smells like rubber mixed with rose, although I concede it provides a good lather. I ordered a tub of Trumper Rose in order to compare them.

[water]

I will offer another vote for the Taylors line. At first I really enjoyed a number of their creams but after a couple of uses I realized that they just did not work well with my face. The only one I still have is Avocado and while it is decent I certainly do not feel it is the be-all-end-all that many profess.

I will also toss in a vote for Proraso "Red". The scent is repulsive.

[Harkonnendog]

AOS Lavender... Shaved with it twice, both times my face was irritated. Worse than nothing.

(I think it was AOS lavender)

[piperc]

I hate to say... risking a flame war....:a7:

But.....





I can't use Mama Bear's soaps. They ALL burn my face.:cursing:

[javyn]

Ah, I wouldn't worry. We all have our like and dislikes, there are several creams and soaps I don't care for either. I haven't tried Mama Bear, and I can't justify spending any more on/using space up for more soap/creams right now. Besides, there are other things I blow my money on, like that 250 dollar olive colored Ralph Lauren sportcoat I saw today...

Anyway, Mama Bear is on my list to get, but I still haven't finished my tube of Proraso, the first thing I got a year ago when I got into wetshaving, my 'rotation' is so big. So it might be a little while ;)

[rtaylor61]

John,

I was using my Avocado tonight, which was one of the first creams I purchased. It's nowhere near empty. Using up products first before buying items is no excuse. Making sure that you have a decade supply is!

Randy

[javyn]

LOL Randy...I don't know if you remember, but you sent me a sample vial from that very tub of Avocado you have, then. Also some Floris. I still want more stuff to try of course, but my shaving drawer runneth over!

[AACJ]

AOS Lavender... Shaved with it twice, both times my face was irritated. Worse than nothing.

(I think it was AOS lavender)

Do you feel like parting with it then?

[Stauff]

Most overrated soap: l'Occitane (more drying than pure alcohol :nonod:)

[crackstar]

mais oui, Stauff, L'Occitane soap is so drying that I have to put on 3 times as much moisturizer than I do with any other soap or cream that I have.

Jeff

[rustyblade]

I hate to say... risking a flame war....:a7:

But.....





I can't use Mama Bear's soaps. They ALL burn my face.:cursing:

It is the EOs in the soaps. I had the same problem with QED soap, and unfortunately, I steer clear of all similar type soaps from now on as a result. I stick with triple milled tallow-types now. It is not to say those soaps are not any good.

[piperc]

Richard,

I'm not sure what it was. I bought both EO and FO soaps with similar effects. By the time I started my second pass, I could feel little needles jabbing my face all over. Afterwards I'd have to do recovery for a few days (lots of moisturizer and creams).

BUT... using Honey Bee Spa soaps has been WONDERFUL!:a29: They smell great and are absolutely 100% comfortable.

I can't say enough good about those soaps.


Chris

[crackstar]

wow, imagine the difference between 2 brands. Yet, I never experienced any burning, tingling, or irritation from Mama Bear's soaps.

Jeff

[finegelernt]

mais oui, Stauff, L'Occitane soap is so drying that I have to put on 3 times as much moisturizer than I do with any other soap or cream that I have.
Jeff

Here http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=613&page=2 you said that this soap is fantastic, great etc.

I am considering getting this soap and now everyone is pouring cold water on this idea. So, is the the soap moisturizing and great or drying and lousy ????????

[crackstar]

yeah, I know, I still agree it's a good soap, despite what I just said. I don't want to sound like a shmuck, or like a hypocrite, but it is really drying to my skin. Everything else about it is good, damn good, from the lather to the scent. By the way, what's your name?

Jeff

[Scotto]

Amazing how people react so differently to stuff. L'Occitane soap ranks as one of my most favorite shaving products.

[crackstar]

Scotto, as a matter of fact, it would be mine too, if it wouldn't be so drying. Like I was telling finegelernt, it lathers great, smells wonderful, but I find it too drying. Otherwise, it's a tremendous soap, and beautifully packaged.

Jeff

[finegelernt]

Scotto, as a matter of fact, it would be mine too, if it wouldn't be so drying. Like I was telling finegelernt, it lathers great, smells wonderful, but I find it too drying. Otherwise, it's a tremendous soap, and beautifully packaged.

Jeff

My skin is a bit on the oily side and a product that is too oily gives me acne, so I consider drying soap a plus for my particular skin type.

However, the soap must provide sufficient lubrication to allow blade to glide over skin without giving me a razor burn. How would you rate L'occitane soap in this regard?

Edward.

[Scotto]

I don't find L'Occitane drying in the least. It is super-slick stuff, and shaves great.

[crackstar]

in that respect, it's very good. I was getting very good razor glide with the L'Occitane. But, after rinsing off my face, it felt dry and tight, and for my skin, that's bad, because it's very sensitive. Read the review I wrote on it, you'll see what I mean

Jeff

[rtaylor61]

I don't find L'Occitane drying in the least. It is super-slick stuff, and shaves great.

I agree. For those who experience a drying issue, have you worked with your water/soap ratio?

Randy

[JohnP]

Wow.
I really like the L'Occitane soap....
...their cream on the other hand...well.

John P.

[catatonic]

LOL Randy...I don't know if you remember, but you sent me a sample vial from that very tub of Avocado you have, then. Also some Floris. I still want more stuff to try of course, but my shaving drawer runneth over!

The advantage of being Single....I have an entire bathroom to clutter up with shave creams, aftershaves, and so on....


Sadly my valet box in my bedroom is already filling up with straights, but that's not a bad thing....it's just sad that I need to buy a bigger storage tool, like a tacklebox. :cool:

[michaelskar]

I agree with some of the others regarding the GREATNESS of the L'Occitane shaving soap. the fragrance is wonderful (juniper bark with other stuff) and I don't think it's drying in the least. This soap lathers better than 99% of the products I've tried, and is very forgiving to inconsistency with soap/water ratios. I love this stuff!

[Doc4]

Well, I hate to say it, but for me my most 'overhyped' soap is Mama Bear's Myesore Sandalwood. Oh sure it lathers and shaves great like all her others, but the scent ... non-existant! And this after seeing other people praising it to the skies for its wonderful and long-lasting scent. :bored:

(But hey, other than that, Mama Bear is tops in my book, so buy her stuff!!)

[TstebinsB]

Taylor Avocado! Doesn't even taste good on chips with salsa!

+1 and Castle Forbes anything

[Padron]

Love the Violet!, YMMV. :biggrin:

+1 :biggrin: I haven't tried CF yet so I can't comment on that..

[Boogie]

TABAC!!!!!

God awful scent.

[Pete]

Floris, in my opinion. Perhaps more over-priced than over-rated, but I didn't feel it was any better than the 3 T's. A shame, because their colognes are spectacular.

[Howard Newell]

Proraso shaving cream. It's worse than the excellent cheap Tom's of Maine shaving cream, smells horrible, and doesn't have much cushion or slickness to it, but the way guys harp on and on about it, you'd think it was a cream counterpart to Tabac.

[Tinzien]

Proraso shaving cream. It's worse than the excellent cheap Tom's of Maine shaving cream, smells horrible, and doesn't have much cushion or slickness to it, but the way guys harp on and on about it, you'd think it was a cream counterpart to Tabac.

It is, but I really had to play around with my tube of Proraso until I figured out how to make a great bowl of lather based upon the water coming out of my sink. Before that however, many failed bowls and the tube was stuck in my shaving closet untouched for six months. Now that I have the lather down I really enjoy the scent, cushion and slickness of the cream. :smile:

[berzerkeleyan]

AOS Sandalwood. The scent is too strong for me.

[Stecacio]

Nancy boy. Not even close.

[osks]

AOS Sandalwood. The scent is too strong for me.
I wouldn't mind even stronger scent. :biggrin1: I like the scent a lot (haven't compared it to other Sandalwood creams/soaps though), but I'm not all happy with the lather. Not bad though.

[Scotty]

Classic shave soap is pitiful.
Taylors shave creams makes me itch.
Tom's of Maine is highly overrated.

[drumana]

Proraso...I don't get it

[zachster]

I just don't get the hoopla over Tabac soap -- the lather seems thin and ineffective.

[Rufus]

Highly overrated = any KMF cream and Florena (which smells nice though). Have to use at least twice as much of both these as you do of TOBS creams, Proraso, Floris, Fraser's, etc.

Just plain crap = American Crew

Most underappreciated = Body Shop cream, and it's excellent value

[turn12354]

DR Harris "Arlington"! All I gat from it is bubbly water, and any other DR product is superb!

[ada8356]

TABAC!!!!!

God awful scent.

YMMV is not allowed on this product.

Mods, please ban Boogie!









:wink: :biggrin:

[boboakalfb]

YMMV is not allowed on this product.

Mods, please ban Boogie!









:wink: :biggrin:

No kidding...:eek:

[BBB3]

+1 on the Proraso green tube. I just can't warm to this stuff. The smell has always seemed to me to be akin to a pine scented industrial strength floor cleaner. It seems to dry quickly on my face, plus it leaves a gummy residue on my razor and in my sink. Even at it's relatively low price point I believe there are much better alternatives, but I know that I am in the minority here.

[rickshah]

Trumper's Violet...

Expensive? Yes
Scent? Eh... Not a huge fan
Shave quality? Ok- not anything special
Redeeming Quality (cool like Proraso, moisturizing like Coconut or Avocado, scent like Nancy Boy)- Uh... the purple color that my girlfriend uses to paint her toenails?

[berzerkeleyan]

I wouldn't mind even stronger scent. :biggrin1: I like the scent a lot (haven't compared it to other Sandalwood creams/soaps though), but I'm not all happy with the lather. Not bad though.

I actually think it lathers very well. But the scent lingers all day, which is 23 hours too long. :smile: I don't think it's overrated as a cream, but I don't find the scent as intoxicating as most.

[howardh]

Musgo Real.

I love the scent, but the razor just skitters across my face leaving spots that -- there it is -- are just about to turn red.

[Biker]

Get a good lather from and love the scent of Proraso.

[StGeorge]

I used to think Nancy Boy was poor until I lathered it directly on my face, its totally different and much better used this way. Try lathering it in a bowl/mug etc and its no good. I think people have a lot of problems because they are not using a decent brush or are trying to lather in a mug or cup, just my 2 pence worth.

[LorenzoJunkie]

I agree with Tony about applying Nancy Boy directly. They say it can be used with or without a brush, but it does work much better if applied without one. My vote for most over-rated goes to Tom's. The texture is kind of lumpy and gross.

[takehiro12]

Trumpers Coconut Oil. Smells great, that's about it.

[srv1761]

Gentleman's Refinery.......It shaves great but is it that SUPERIOR to the 3 T's........I find no difference in shaves b/t GR and T&H Ultimate comfort!!!

Tim

[Clark]

Overrated

[lonestar]

nancy boy gets my vote, direct lathered or not!

[vmtech]

Taylor's Avocado is over-rated for me.
I got a decent shave from it, but nothing great.
The smell is what really killed it for me though... worst smelling stuff I ever bought.
Used twice and couldn't take it anymore. Just sits in the back of my cabinet now.

V..

[mano]

I second that. I’m very much into floral scents and the Salter rose cream is absolutely repulsive. It smells like rubber mixed with rose, although I concede it provides a good lather. I ordered a tub of Trumper Rose in order to compare them.

Salter Wild Rose makes great lather and the scent is just fine. Now that you point it out I do detect the slightest rubber smell, but it's not offensive to me.

[JonEdangerousli]

Ingrams. First cream or soap that I've tried that I've truly hated. I love a mentholated AS. Can't stand the cream.

I know, I'm strange.

[Nancy Boy]

Ingrams. First cream or soap that I've tried that I've truly hated. I love a mentholated AS. Can't stand the cream.

I know, I'm strange.

But we dig you anyway, Jon.:laugh:


I gotta say it has to be ARKO for me. Everyone in these forums are pretty much split on Arko. at 2.99 a tube, I wasn't going to fret if it turned out to be bad. It was. I'm always going to give something a second try (did this with Trumper's and glad that I did). If it turns out like crap again, I'll pass it on to one of my enemi... er, I mean friends, or bury deeply in the back yard.

Arko soap, however, ROCKS.:thumbup:

[rustyblade]

I just don't get the hoopla over Tabac soap -- the lather seems thin and ineffective.

You are lathering it wrong, plain and simple. I've never heard anyone complain about thin lather with Tabac.

Even the most average soaps and creams can be lathered well if you know how to use a brush properly. The shave might not be so good, however.

[paydepst]

Ingrams. First cream or soap that I've tried that I've truly hated. I love a mentholated AS. Can't stand the cream.

I know, I'm strange.

Jon, respecting the Ingrams it may help if you took a little time to come to centre, say a few "ohms" while sitar music plays in the background, and then apply the cream. This may work for you. Regardless, if you film it, it will certainly be interesting to watch on YouTube! :smile:

[kburke532]

Trumpers Violet...smells great and thats it.

Nancy Boy is my travel cream and i love it as it is now meant to be used with a brush.

Best tip: use more cream don't be stingy

[ravkesef]

I love Proraso. works great, smells great, etc., etc.

my all time worst: Caswell-Massey. Absolute garbage.

[Fuzzy Face]

MAMA BEAR was a huge disappointment for me. :thumbdown

[digitldlnkwnt]

Taylors Sandalwood Cream...
dried my face out...not so well lubricating and I just got sick of the smell after a while :crying: :thumbdown:

[ravkesef]

Just shows you the true meaning of YMMV. I absolutely love Mama Bear's soaps. Smooth, fragrant, great shave, etc., etc. Everything I could possible want in a shaving soap is right there.
BTW, I also like Nancy Boy, and some of the respondents on this thread haven't been overly enthusiastic about it.
But I challenge anyone to come out and say anything good about Caswell-Massey.

[Wily Whiskers]

Herban Cowboy cream. No matter what I tried it wouldn't build into a lather while I had no problem with the tube of mango cream from Trader Joe's. My only experiences so far since I'm a newbie. :redface:

[BroJohn]

But I challenge anyone to come out and say anything good about Caswell-Massey.

Well,.... It's very very cheap at Tuesday Morning.

If you use 2X or 3X the normal amount of product, and work it like crazy, you can get a marginally passible lather,... usually.

That's about as 'good' as this stuff gets. Sad, really. :crying:

-- John Gehman

[OldSaw]

But I challenge anyone to come out and say anything good about Caswell-Massey.

It's a neat sounding name. It actually rolls off the tongue quite nicely. If it was any good I would really like saying, "Caswell-Massey". Oh...um...I kind of like their packaging. If it was any good I think it would look nice sitting out on the vanity in my bathroom.

[TimmyBoston]

IMO it's Trumper's Violet

[Drew]

Salter Wild Rose makes great lather and the scent is just fine. Now that you point it out I do detect the slightest rubber smell, but it's not offensive to me.


I think pretty much all of the salter creams have that rubber/plastic smell to it. I had to get rid of the citrus variant, as it just smelled like plastic to me... VERY OFFENSIVE to my nose. I like their mint offering, but the plastic smell is still present... odd.

[ada8356]

I think pretty much all of the salter creams have that rubber/plastic smell to it. I had to get rid of the citrus variant, as it just smelled like plastic to me... VERY OFFENSIVE to my nose. I like their mint offering, but the plastic smell is still present... odd.

All of mine have this scent. I'm guessing that the cream is all identical with the scent added at the end.

[Baloosh]

Oh yeah.. another one I forgot:

Taylor's Shaving Shop. Absolutely horrid smell. It literally smells like an old high school locker room that hasn't been cleaned in a few weeks. I've never smelled something so similar to body order (B.O.) before.

Makes me gag when I use it. A lot of people rave about the scent, but there's stuff that's "meh" and stuff that smells bad, and then at the bottom of that list... WAY at the bottom, is the unholy concoction that is ToOBS Shaving Shop cream.

:out: :eek2:

[Lynchmeister]

I think pretty much all of the salter creams have that rubber/plastic smell to it. I had to get rid of the citrus variant, as it just smelled like plastic to me... VERY OFFENSIVE to my nose. I like their mint offering, but the plastic smell is still present... odd.

I agree that that scent is present in all of their creams, but to my nose it's more medicinal than plastic. Either way, though, I don't find it too offensive.

[sacmore21]

Definitely Caswell-Massey. It's the only cream I've ever found that could not lather well, let alone make for a slick shave.

[Zaniix]

Richard,

I'm not sure what it was. I bought both EO and FO soaps with similar effects. By the time I started my second pass, I could feel little needles jabbing my face all over. Afterwards I'd have to do recovery for a few days (lots of moisturizer and creams).

BUT... using Honey Bee Spa soaps has been WONDERFUL!:a29: They smell great and are absolutely 100% comfortable.

I can't say enough good about those soaps.


Chris


Tottaly agree, HBS soaps are the best for me.

Most overated I think goes to DR Harris I expected so much from it since many people think its the last of the good non-reformulated creams, but I feel that Floris of London is much better. DR Harris was a disapointment.

[Amyn]

Nancy Boy is definitely overrated

[Prince]

Herban Cowboy cream. No matter what I tried it wouldn't build into a lather while I had no problem with the tube of mango cream from Trader Joe's. My only experiences so far since I'm a newbie. :redface:


I saw the Herban Cowboy cream in the store and it smelled great. Thanks for stopping me before I dropped cash on it.

Taylor Avocado still smells bad to me. Shaves great, but then I have to wash my face and put on a strong a/s to get rid of the smell.

This will not get replaced once it is gone.

[momo360]

MAMA BEAR was a huge disappointment for me. :thumbdown

Gents, i know i'm a noob and all, and that- as with everything in the shaving universe - YMMV. However I really have a hard time seeing how one can see MB soaps as being overrated, I mean, these things (along with tabac) really whip up a mean lather. Have you taken into account the hard-water factor, the brush, etc etc...?

[mparker762]

Most overated I think goes to DR Harris I expected so much from it since many people think its the last of the good non-reformulated creams.

There is a good reason for your disappointment - it's no longer "non-reformulated", much to the dismay of many members who were holding out a thread of hope that Harris would survive. AFAIK only T&H remains as it was, and who knows how long that will last.

[JaDubb]

Yet another vote for Trumper's Violet. It's cardboardish in scent and doesn't perform that good for me. Another vote could go to the Body Shop SC. Instead of providing easy glide, I think it provides nice increment in friction between blade and face. :glare:

[Magnulus]

C&E Sandalwood soap. It's like Williams mug soap but costs 4 times a much, and doesn't even have the decency to make a good, moist lather. I want my $$$ back. I guess with more experience this soap would probably work better but I like something that lathers quickly and feels slick, at the moment. Some people apparrently love triple milled soaps.

[boboakalfb]

C&E Sandalwood soap. It's like Williams mug soap but costs 4 times a much, and doesn't even have the decency to make a good, moist lather. I want my $$$ back. I guess with more experience this soap would probably work better but I like something that lathers quickly and feels slick, at the moment. Some people apparrently love triple milled soaps.

Hang on to it and don't give up. Revisit it at a later date and hopefully you get better results.

[Doc4]

Definitely Caswell-Massey. It's the only cream I've ever found that could not lather well, let alone make for a slick shave.
Well, it's not technically "over rated" since everyone rates it so poorly anyhow. :ohmy:

Gents, i know i'm a noob and all, and that- as with everything in the shaving universe - YMMV. However I really have a hard time seeing how one can see MB soaps as being overrated, I mean, these things (along with tabac) really whip up a mean lather. Have you taken into account the hard-water factor, the brush, etc etc...?

When a dissenting voice (which is allowed) claims MB is bad soap, well, we all scratch our heads in wonder and try to figure out what the fellow is doing wrong with his brush. But, to each his own.

(To be fair, I mentioned MB myesore sandalwood as over-rated, but only in the scent department, as I really can't smell much scent in it and others have raved about the scent of that one ... but it's otherwise great.)

[Storm]

Nancy Boy.

I've tried it three shaves to be fair, and each time the blade skips and jumps like a stuttering mogul skier.

Hey, I think I'll write a review!

[srv1761]

Nancy Boy.

I've tried it three shaves to be fair, and each time the blade skips and jumps like a stuttering mogul skier.

Hey, I think I'll write a review!

Try keeping more water in your brush and face.....I had that problen with NB and not enough H2O was the problem.....Since then the shaves have been spectacular

[ptyrider]

Another vote could go to the Body Shop SC. Instead of providing easy glide, I think it provides nice increment in friction between blade and face. :glare:

I strongly disagree. Body Shop SC is wonderful and a great value.

[wolfemi1]

Try keeping more water in your brush and face.....I had that problen with NB and not enough H2O was the problem.....Since then the shaves have been spectacular

That might be it, but also I've noticed that it's really easy to put too much water in....

Nancy Boy is intended as a brushless cream, after all. If you try to whip up lather like Trumper's you may end up whipping too much air in. I would say wet your face to use it, and then put it on with NO water, and see where that gets you....

[Ken]

I'm not in agreement that Trumper's has been reformulated. Two recent pots purchased directly from Trumper's have been excellent. About Harris I'm not sure since I have had only samples of recent creams, and samples can be misleading. Another important point is that the fact that a cream has been reformulated does not mean that it is bad. I have had excellent results with two tubs of Taylor's that I have purchased recently--and that has been reformulated.

ken

[OldSaw]

I hate Caswell-Massey, but I would not say it is over rated. In fact I think it gets proper bashing whenever it is brought up. I was just thinking of the OP which was about over rated products, not necessarily the crappiest product, (Caswell-Massey), ever made.

[atracksler]

i have had great luck with nancy boy, even with a brush..

Toms of Maine and Burts Bees are the worst I have used..ever.

[F16WarBird]

C&E Sandalwood cream

[Handy]

Put me down for Nancy Boy.

[dwestenk]

another Nancy Boy

[OldSaw]

Put me down for Nancy Boy.


another Nancy Boy

So you both think Nancy Boy is over rated. I'm glad I didn't waste my money on it. In what way did it let you down?

[Xavier]

SUMMARY OF THREAD: (up to post #145)
[Key= "-1"=Over-rated; "+1"=Not overrated/Great Product; BOLD=most discussed]

Tom's of Main Peppermint -1-1
Tom's of Main Cream +1-1-1+1 = 0
Arko -1+1-1-1+1-1 =-2
Erasmic +1
GF Tumper Violet -1+1-1+1-1-1+1+1-1-1-1-1 = -4
GF Trumper Coconut Oil -1-1
Castle Forbes -1-1-1-1-1+1-1 = -5
Castle Forbes lime +1
Castle Forbes lavander -1
Burt's Bees -1
Burt's Bees Bay Rum -1
Taylor's (all cream & soaps) -1-1+1-1-1 = -3
Taylor's Lemon/lime -1-1
Taylor's Almond +1
Taylor's Avocado -1+1-1-1-1-1-1 = -5
Taylor's Sandalwood Cream -1
Taylor's Shaving Shop -1
Truefitt & Hill Grafton -1
DR Harris (all creams) -1-1-1
DR Harris Lavander -1
DR Harris Arlington -1-1
Tabac Soap -1-1+1+1+1+1 = +2
Proraso Soap -1
Proraso Cream -1-1+1+1-1+1-1-1+1+1 = 0
C&E Almond Cream -1-1+1+1 = 0
C&E Sandalwood -1-1+1-1+1-1 = -2
C&E Nomad Soap -1
Nancy Boy -1-1-1-1-1-1-1+1+1-1+1+1-1+1-1+1-1-1 = -12
Locitaine Soap -1-1-1+1+1+1+1 = +1
Herban Cowboy Cream -1-1
Gentleman's Refinery -1
Kiss My Face cream -1
Florena -1
King of Shaves Gel -1-1
Classic Shaving Soap -1-1-1
Mama Bear's Soaps -1-1-1+1+1 = -1
Mama Bear's Myesore Sandalwood -1
Cyril Salter Wild Rose -1-1-1-1
Caswell-Massey -1-1+1
Honey Bee Spa +1+1
QED Soaps -1
AOS Lavander -1
AOS Sandalwood -1+1
Ingrams (Cream and Soap) -1
Musgo Real -1
Floris -1+1
Men-U shave Cream -1
Body Shop Cream +1-1+1
American Crew -1
Butter -1

Hope this helps as a quick overview of the thread. Not trying to influence future voting, but wanted to help those looking at this long thread.

[OldSaw]

SUMMARY OF THREAD: (up to post #145)
[Key= "-1"=Over-rated; "+1"=Not overrated/Great Product; BOLD=most discussed]

Tom's of Main Peppermint -1-1
Tom's of Main Cream +1-1-1+1 = 0
Arko -1+1-1-1+1-1 =-2
Erasmic +1
GF Tumper Violet -1+1-1+1-1-1+1+1-1-1-1-1 = -4
GF Trumper Coconut Oil -1-1
Castle Forbes -1-1-1-1-1+1-1 = -5
Castle Forbes lime +1
Castle Forbes lavander -1
Burt's Bees -1
Burt's Bees Bay Rum -1
Taylor's (all cream & soaps) -1-1+1-1-1 = -3
Taylor's Lemon/lime -1-1
Taylor's Almond +1
Taylor's Avocado -1+1-1-1-1-1-1 = -5
Taylor's Sandalwood Cream -1
Taylor's Shaving Shop -1
Truefitt & Hill Grafton -1
DR Harris (all creams) -1-1-1
DR Harris Lavander -1
DR Harris Arlington -1-1
Tabac Soap -1-1+1+1+1+1 = +2
Proraso Soap -1
Proraso Cream -1-1+1+1-1+1-1-1+1+1 = 0
C&E Almond Cream -1-1+1+1 = 0
C&E Sandalwood -1-1+1-1+1-1 = -2
C&E Nomad Soap -1
Nancy Boy -1-1-1-1-1-1-1+1+1-1+1+1-1+1-1+1-1-1 = -12
Locitaine Soap -1-1-1+1+1+1+1 = +1
Herban Cowboy Cream -1-1
Gentleman's Refinery -1
Kiss My Face cream -1
Florena -1
King of Shaves Gel -1-1
Classic Shaving Soap -1-1-1
Mama Bear's Soaps -1-1-1+1+1 = -1
Mama Bear's Myesore Sandalwood -1
Cyril Salter Wild Rose -1-1-1-1
Caswell-Massey -1-1+1
Honey Bee Spa +1+1
QED Soaps -1
AOS Lavander -1
AOS Sandalwood -1+1
Ingrams (Cream and Soap) -1
Musgo Real -1
Floris -1+1
Men-U shave Cream -1
Body Shop Cream +1-1+1
American Crew -1
Butter -1

Hope this helps as a quick overview of the thread. Not trying to influence future voting, but wanted to help those looking at this long thread.

Wow. How long did it take to break this down?

[Mr. Igg]

SUMMARY OF THREAD: (up to post #145)
[Key= "-1"=Over-rated; "+1"=Not overrated/Great Product; BOLD=most discussed]

<snip>



Wow! Thanks for doing the heavy lifting to synthesize the responses. Very informative.

[Daves]

I agree. Tom's Peppermint doesn't do a thing for. YUCK!

[Hodari D.]

St. Charles Shave Shaving creams. Maybe I need to adjust my lather, but so far they haven't worked for me, and the rose aftershaving milk leaves my face all sticky and gross.

Scott

[Rufus]

Have to agree with you on the SCS creams; a big disappointment for me.

[desmoface]

Shaved with the Castle Forbes yesterday, immediately ordered a tub, best cream I've used..but again, one mans garbage is another mans treasure..Also have a tub of trumpers violet on the way, hopefully it's not as bad to me as others have said. Although, I did get it in trade LOL; so I'm prepared not to like it.

Steve


Love the Violet!

Castle Forbes, YMMV. :biggrin:

[patrisVII]

Rock bottom worst for me are the Surrey soaps - worse performance than bath soaps and a horrid, acrid smell.

Most overrated is King of Shaves. Overrated in general that is. It seems most folks on this board see it for what it is - the Bose Wave of shaving creams.

Taylor's Rose is the best cream I've tried period. As far as performance goes the rest of the line is way behind and not really worth the money IMO. Scent wise I like Lavander and, to lesser extent, Lemon-Lime - the rest of the range goes from mildly unpleasant (sandalwood) to repulsive (all the cologne creams). This experience has given me no incentive to try the more expensive Brit creams.

The new Edge creams in the tubes are a very good, high performance product but their cost ends up being nearly twice that of Taylor's Rose and the scent is not anywhere near as good.

[Hodari D.]

Rock bottom worst for me are the Surrey soaps - worse performance than bath soaps and a horrid, acrid smell.

Most overrated is King of Shaves. Overrated in general that is. It seems most folks on this board see it for what it is - the Bose Wave of shaving creams.

Taylor's Rose is the best cream I've tried period. As far as performance goes the rest of the line is way behind and not really worth the money IMO. Scent wise I like Lavander and, to lesser extent, Lemon-Lime - the rest of the range goes from mildly unpleasant (sandalwood) to repulsive (all the cologne creams). This experience has given me no incentive to try the more expensive Brit creams.

The new Edge creams in the tubes are a very good, high performance product but their cost ends up being nearly twice that of Taylor's Rose and the scent is not anywhere near as good.

In regard to the other Taylor's scents, I have to recommend the almond. it is not too sweet but also not too muted; it is a true almond which is strange as taylor's usually doesn't have 'true' scents. Lathered up with it yesterday and it gave a great shave. Not as good as the rose, but better than the avacado.

Scott

[Ron]

SUMMARY OF THREAD: (up to post #145)
[Key= "-1"=Over-rated; "+1"=Not overrated/Great Product; BOLD=most discussed]

Tom's of Main Peppermint -1-1
Tom's of Main Cream +1-1-1+1 = 0
Arko -1+1-1-1+1-1 =-2
Erasmic +1
GF Tumper Violet -1+1-1+1-1-1+1+1-1-1-1-1 = -4
GF Trumper Coconut Oil -1-1
Castle Forbes -1-1-1-1-1+1-1 = -5
Castle Forbes lime +1
Castle Forbes lavander -1
Burt's Bees -1
Burt's Bees Bay Rum -1
Taylor's (all cream & soaps) -1-1+1-1-1 = -3
Taylor's Lemon/lime -1-1
Taylor's Almond +1
Taylor's Avocado -1+1-1-1-1-1-1 = -5
Taylor's Sandalwood Cream -1
Taylor's Shaving Shop -1
Truefitt & Hill Grafton -1
DR Harris (all creams) -1-1-1
DR Harris Lavander -1
DR Harris Arlington -1-1
Tabac Soap -1-1+1+1+1+1 = +2
Proraso Soap -1
Proraso Cream -1-1+1+1-1+1-1-1+1+1 = 0
C&E Almond Cream -1-1+1+1 = 0
C&E Sandalwood -1-1+1-1+1-1 = -2
C&E Nomad Soap -1
Nancy Boy -1-1-1-1-1-1-1+1+1-1+1+1-1+1-1+1-1-1 = -12
Locitaine Soap -1-1-1+1+1+1+1 = +1
Herban Cowboy Cream -1-1
Gentleman's Refinery -1
Kiss My Face cream -1
Florena -1
King of Shaves Gel -1-1
Classic Shaving Soap -1-1-1
Mama Bear's Soaps -1-1-1+1+1 = -1
Mama Bear's Myesore Sandalwood -1
Cyril Salter Wild Rose -1-1-1-1
Caswell-Massey -1-1+1
Honey Bee Spa +1+1
QED Soaps -1
AOS Lavander -1
AOS Sandalwood -1+1
Ingrams (Cream and Soap) -1
Musgo Real -1
Floris -1+1
Men-U shave Cream -1
Body Shop Cream +1-1+1
American Crew -1
Butter -1

Hope this helps as a quick overview of the thread. Not trying to influence future voting, but wanted to help those looking at this long thread.

Wow, great work Xavier. Might be a footing error in the Nancy Boy results. Doens't effect the outcome however; NB still leads.

[Prince]

Thanks. I think I was surprised most by Proraso. I think it's great, but then again, it was the first non-canned shaving cream I used.

[loueedacat]

Thanks. I think I was surprised most by Proraso. I think it's great, but then again, it was the first non-canned shaving cream I used.

ProRaso is most overrated for me (clearly YMMV). It dries my skin up something awful, and the performance is fine but nothing special. I think some people may respond better to nuclear menthol bombs than others.

GFT Violet cream scent is kind of nasty, so I'd go with the overrated crowd on that. [I really like their other creams and soaps, so this is scent only, not performance]

Nancy Boy is fabulous for me, so I have to dissent on that one.

[SingleShotVictor]

Most over rated has to be Nancy Boy at least so far. I just can't seem to get into using this cream, just doesn't work for me. I like the scent though. I haven't used alot of other creams so my vote is limited. Other creams I use are Proraso, TOBS Avocado, KMF and the Floris samples which are superb. Sorry NB.

[OldSchoolYoungin]

Enjoyed Proraso when I first got it, I guess since it was my first highly recommended cream. I could do without it now, have no desire to buy any more. Mediocre. Then again, I've now experienced a good bit of higher-end stuff, so my tastes have changed.

[canman23]

WOW!! so many all over the board. I would have to cast my vote for C&E Nomad!! I dont like it at all.. :thumbdown

[g4willy]

-1 for Trumper Violet.

[Zennmaster]

AOS Unscented cream. Smells like "Unscented" hand lotion and doesn't lather for me worth a drat. Generally uninspiring and not much fun. If all of my MB was gone, I'd go find some Williams, or heck, maybe even Foamy before I use this stuff again.

[beisler]

I just don't get the hype with these 2 compared to T&H and ce sienna soap

[desmoface]

Just received a tub of GFT Violette in trade..I have to say, it lathers like crazy, but the shave was not the greatest. It must be the Violette, because it just didn't provide much protection..my face definitely didn't want anymore than 2 passes. Oh well, it does lather well.

Overrated? I don't know if it can be called that, as it's been binned pretty well here, but it's not the first cream I'll reach for.

Steve

[rum]

Three over-hyped for me:

- From creams, it has to be L'Occitane cream. If you need to buy or use this, you may as well get some sandpaper.

- Tabac soap didn't seem all that good that it was made out to be. It's glycerin based so for me it didn't feel as good (and smooth) as a triple-milled. Also, the scent didn't last as long as I'd liked it to.

- Anything from Taylor's. Sorry guys but their range just doesn't seem to cut it. Their creams are very drying, although not half as bad as L'Occitane.

[TimmyBoston]

While it is by no means the worst, IMO the most overrated is Trumpers.

[rum]

While it is by no means the worst, IMO the most overrated is Trumpers.

:eek: Two hundred "Hail Mary's" for you tonight :eek:

[Stauff]

While it is by no means the worst, IMO the most overrated is Trumpers.

The cream maybe, but not the soaps?

[rum]

Is the Arko referred to on here the same as Acca Kappa? Because the latter is selling for £65 at the Gentlemen's Shop (approx US$130) :eek:

[bjrn]

Three over-hyped for me:

- From creams, it has to be L'Occitane cream. If you need to buy or use this, you may as well get some sandpaper.There's really no hype for the CADE cream, it's the soap that gets the praise, the cream that gets mixed reviews at best.

[professorchaos]

Speick. I want to like it and love the AS. Unfortunately, I never get a good shave with it.

[Must Dash]

Most overrated soap: l'Occitane (more drying than pure alcohol :nonod:)

L'Occitane gets my vote too. Vowed never to let the stuff near my face again.

[boboakalfb]

Is the Arko referred to on here the same as Acca Kappa? Because the latter is selling for £65 at the Gentlemen's Shop (approx US$130) :eek:

Nope...they are at opposite sides of the cost spectrum.

[OldSaw]

L'Occitane gets my vote too. Vowed never to let the stuff near my face again.

And one more from me.

[Daves]

I just tried Aubrey Organics "Mens Stock" Shave Cream. Arrgh! I threw it in the can immediately afterwards. DISGUSTING!

DaveS

[MathMarc]

For me the most over-rated if GFT Rose soap. I love the scent, get a nice lather, however, the shave is just never as good as when I use the Taylor's Lavender Soap, GR cream, or Floris cream (the latter two are my favorites).

[dash]

Three over-hyped for me:

- From creams, it has to be L'Occitane cream.

I tried some L'Occitane today as an experiment. This is the non-CADE L'Occitane. Since bad lather ruins my karma and may lead to lots of nicks, I went with a Mach 3. (I have been using Dorco and Astra Superior in different razors.) The shave was close, but the lather was runny and almost transparent -- no matter how much cream I used. And it burned a little, too. My pH problem again.

It was old L'Occitane, but my equally aged Proraso is still an excellent cream.

I may throw out L'O to save space and prevent the SWBO question "how many shaving creams do you have?

I'm in the group who likes the fragrance.

[andrewinman]

In my humble opinion ALL scented english creams that I have tried after my first pass burn like fire for me:eek: ...so my answer is the 3T's (scented)

[dash]

So you both think Nancy Boy is over rated. I'm glad I didn't waste my money on it. In what way did it let you down?

You're not asking me, but NB is supremely brushless. It is like slathering a thick layer of Noxema -- not Noxema shave cream, the original ointment -- on your face. Very cooling, but nothing like your classic lather.

Noxema might work as well and cost less.

[OldSaw]

You're not asking me, but NB is supremely brushless. It is like slathering a thick layer of Noxema -- not Noxema shave cream, the original ointment -- on your face. Very cooling, but nothing like your classic lather.

Noxema might work as well and cost less.

Thanks

[loueedacat]

I find both NB creams give incredible shaves and moisturize the face. You can whip it up with a brush, shave gently, and boom - BBS after two passes, and your skin feels great. I get better shaves from the NB creams in two passes than with a lot of top end cream on four (and I usually stop at two or three), and my face feels great all day.

This string in particular show just how much YMMV. I think Proraso is the most overrated cream, and quite like the TOBS and GFT creams (but like the NB creams even more).

[stripec30]

QED Rose. Awsome smell. Weak lather.

[MichaelB]

I am not sure they are over-rated, but Caswell-Massey and Anne Lee's soaps are just awful. Both have weak lather that disappears instantly.

Although my list constantly changes, my A-team of soaps right now is: L'Occitane, Floris, CE Nomad, Tabac, and Mama Bear.

Michael

[DMS]

Speick. I want to like it and love the AS. Unfortunately, I never get a good shave with it.

I have to agree with this regarding Speick cream. I received some as a Christmas gift and wanted to like it, but have yet to get a good shave with this stuff.

The first shave gave me some weepers and a lot of sting from the alum block, and subsequent shaves with careful preparation, different razors, or fresh blades haven't been much better. It's especially bad on my lower neck for some reason.

[BigRay]

butter

Too funny :biggrin:

-Ray

[OldSchoolYoungin]

QED Rose. Awsome smell. Weak lather.

Have you tried lathering on your face? I've noticed this with QED soaps, they seem to be better suited for face lathering. If ya don't want it, lemme know!!!

[knlgskr]

All scented soaps/creams; IMO scent adds nothing to the quality of the shave and may actually detract. If you want scent; use a scent not a soap and I do not want alcohol on my face.

Richard

[iron maiden]

Trumper almond....or anything Trumper.....way overpriced for what it delivers

[MichaelB]

I am not sure they are over-rated, but Caswell-Massey and Anne Lee's soaps are just awful. Both have weak lather that disappears instantly.

Although my list constantly changes, my A-team of soaps right now is: L'Occitane, Floris, CE Nomad, Tabac, and Mama Bear.

Michael

This morning I tried Herban Cowboy for the first time (a Christmas present from the wife). Unlike Caswell-Massey and Anne Lee's, it easily produced a lather in the bowl, on the brush, and on my face (though it was a thin lather). But, like those others, the lather began to disappear rapidly. By the end of each pass there was no visible lather on my face or even still on the brush. Also, the thin lather does not provide much of a shave even at the beginning of the pass.

I don't understand these companies. Disappearing lather is such a fatal flaw in a shave soap. Once they realize that their products are so defective, why don't they reformulate?

Michael

[A.de.Lioncourt]

I have to agree with this regarding Speick cream. I received some as a Christmas gift and wanted to like it, but have yet to get a good shave with this stuff.

The first shave gave me some weepers and a lot of sting from the alum block, and subsequent shaves with careful preparation, different razors, or fresh blades haven't been much better. It's especially bad on my lower neck for some reason.

!?!? I haven't found a cream for any price that creates such creamy thick shiny slick lather as Speick, and it makes my face feel great too. No offense to you guys, I'm just really shocked.

[blantyre]

Coates lime. Although a passable cream I can't understand the lengths people go to to get a few oz of it.

[moses]

Coates lime. Although a passable cream I can't understand the lengths people go to to get a few oz of it.

No comment. :biggrin:

-Mo

[DrumDawg]

so it seems to me that different stuff works differently on different peeps, huh?

for the record, I liked men-U shaving cream; but never tried it with DE shaving

i will bring more to the table when i have tried something OTHER than williams

[Belegnole]

I love all of this....these threads just continue to amuse and edify me. I read them and experiment, read and try again....lol

I think I have a idea though, so don't be surprised if I PM you and ask for your favorites. Here's the idea...find the people who keep liking the products I do and find out what else they like. Might work.....

[andrews]

derby cream any of them , and williams soap herban cowboy col conk bay rum all junk other col soap products very good and teee hut sucks smells great tho

[DMS]

!?!? I haven't found a cream for any price that creates such creamy thick shiny slick lather as Speick, and it makes my face feel great too. No offense to you guys, I'm just really shocked.

I was surprised too, based on some of the reviews I'd read on Speick cream. It looks like beautiful lather but doesn't work very well for me.

[D'Brie]

C&E Almond and GFT Violet. I don't like then and they don't like me. :censored:

[theperfectstorm]

Working on the general assumption that tastes vary (tastes very what?...)

I have to say that I have given away every C&E soap I have ever had--which includes Nomad, Almond, and Sienna. All of them dried my face up something terrible. Really wanted to like the Nomad, but...

Also dishonorable mention to Caswell and Massey. Lots of history, and some of the ancilliary products are alright but the soaps are shite.

[jmwebster]

Creams: Nancy Boy
Soap: Burt's Bees

[Naes12]

Proraso. For me its not slick or protective, and I've tried all sorts of water ratios. My water is hard so maybe thats it. The only thing it does for me is give a nice cooling sensation. It also does not moisturize as well florena which for people in canada is comparable in price and availability.