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fatt_tony
03-25-2008, 10:29 AM
I have come across alot of recipes on the net for homemade bay rum aftershave. They list rum. My question is, is it dark rum, light rum? I have both so I guess i could make differant batches. Also what about flavored rums like malibu cocanut rum or capt. morgans spiced rum? Some list glycerin and some don't. Has anybody made their own? Care to share your recipes, thoughts and/or ideas?

fatt_tony
03-25-2008, 07:49 PM
Well, I guess everybody here just drinks their rum.:tongue_sm

rodd
03-26-2008, 06:51 AM
Never done it, but I would also be interested.

fatt_tony
03-26-2008, 07:06 AM
This is among the many that i have found: (http://www.bayrum.info/) It seems real easy. Also I had read somewhere you could add a few drops of gylcerin when the mix is finished.

4 Ounces Vodka
2 Tablespoons Jamaican Rum
2 Dried Bay Leaves
1/4 Teaspoon Allspice
1 Stick of Cinnamon, broken in pieces
Fresh Zest from a Small Orange

Combine all ingredients in a container such as a bottle or mason jar with a tightly fitting lid. Put the closed container in a dark, cool place (not in the refrigerator). After two weeks, strain mixture through several layers of cheesecloth, paper towels or a coffee filter. If necessary, repeat until no residue remains. Put in an attractive bottle or atomizer and splash on or spray face after shaving.

bman40
03-26-2008, 07:15 AM
fresh bay leaves would probably yield more oil and be a better scent....

guess what I'm doing this weekend :)

lucky
03-26-2008, 07:25 AM
Please let us know how it works. I'm wondering if a quick boil to cut the alcohol down would help?

Confuzius
03-26-2008, 07:28 AM
I'm going to guess dark rum.

grayraven
03-26-2008, 07:35 AM
In theory since this is basically an herbal tincture you could bring to a just under a boil after straining the items to burn off some of the alcohol. It shouldn't change the overall scent too terribly much. Also, the fresh bay leaves would introduce water to this mixture. The only liquid in that recipe seems to be the alcohol. I am not sure how it would effect the overall mix. Good luck with the project I am curious to see how it goes.

fatt_tony
03-26-2008, 07:38 AM
I also found a bottle of Barcadi Vanilla rum in my stash. I am just going to have to experiment and make a few differant ones.

Joe Eckman
03-26-2008, 08:01 AM
Check out this thread: http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=35425&highlight=bay+rum+homemade

Also, the ingredients on
Clubman's Bay Rum lists SD Alcohol (denatured ethenol), water, fragrance and color.
Master's Bay Rum lists Water, SD Alcchol, glycerin, bay oil and color.

I am pretty sure the Bay Oil is not the same as from bay leaves in the spice rack(laurus nobilis), but bay rum leaves called pimento racemosa.

rodd
03-26-2008, 09:10 AM
I wonder if a little corn huskers in the mix would add more moisturizing properties...

rmrdaddy
03-26-2008, 09:47 AM
A number of the other recipes I have found also have witch hazel as an ingredient, which I think is a good idea.

Spacegeezer
04-22-2008, 02:04 AM
I am pretty sure the Bay Oil is not the same as from bay leaves in the spice rack(laurus nobilis), but bay rum leaves called pimento racemosa.

Absolutely right. Stick your Bay leaves back in your soup and get yourself some Bay oil or plant a some West Indian Bay trees.

DanOK
04-22-2008, 09:01 AM
Please continue to keep us advised on the progress of your homemade aftershave. Every year I hand make some items for my close family and friends for Christmas. This sounds like a perfect project for gifts to the young boys and men this year. In fact, I'm going to add vintage bottles to my shopping list. Its never to early to say "Merry Christmas".

fatt_tony
04-22-2008, 09:23 AM
The Dominica Bay Rum list "laurus nobilis" as an ingrediant as seen here (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?ltr=D&t=12602). So which bay leaves do I use?

Absolutely right. Stick your Bay leaves back in your soup and get yourself some Bay oil or plant a some West Indian Bay trees.

Steerpike
04-22-2008, 10:06 AM
Firstly, don't use dark rum. The caramel they darken it with will make your face sticky.

Secondly, don't boil- you need as much alcohol as possible to dissolve the EO's. Boiling with the lid off will evaporate both alcohol and EO's, and spoil your rum.

Get alcohol over 60% abv, to ensure dissolving the oils. If you can get overproof rum, use it, otherwise everclear is your best bet. You can't have too much alcohol. If you use regular 37.5% rum from the corner shop, like I did the first time, you will have a very dark, bland smelling product. Use high alcohol and if you can, EO's rather than whole plant (but use them sparingly).

Add glycerin at the end if you need moisturising properties as an aftershave- typically 5% is enough.

Finally, forget the witch hazel. Real Bay Rum is a toner and conditioner par excellence, and needs no witch hazel watering it down.

Mr. Gillette
04-22-2008, 10:09 AM
This is among the many that i have found: (http://www.bayrum.info/) It seems real easy. Also I had read somewhere you could add a few drops of gylcerin when the mix is finished.

4 Ounces Vodka
2 Tablespoons Jamaican Rum
2 Dried Bay Leaves
1/4 Teaspoon Allspice
1 Stick of Cinnamon, broken in pieces
Fresh Zest from a Small Orange

Combine all ingredients in a container such as a bottle or mason jar with a tightly fitting lid. Put the closed container in a dark, cool place (not in the refrigerator). After two weeks, strain mixture through several layers of cheesecloth, paper towels or a coffee filter. If necessary, repeat until no residue remains. Put in an attractive bottle or atomizer and splash on or spray face after shaving.

I don't have any attractive bottles-- is an old ugly one okay in a pinch? This seems to have worked for me, from time to time, where women are concerned...:lol::lol:

Spacegeezer
04-23-2008, 02:56 AM
The Dominica Bay Rum list "laurus nobilis" as an ingrediant as seen here (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?ltr=D&t=12602). So which bay leaves do I use?

http://www.stjohnhistoricalsociety.org/Articles/Bay-Rum.htm
http://www.avirtualdominica.com/bay.htm
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bay+rum

I'm almost 100% certain that that label is inaccurate, because Dominica has a major Bay Tree industry - which of course involves West Indies Bay Tree, not Mediterranean Laurel. So I think the copywriter got confused and quoted the wrong plant. As that guide/brochure was added by the American importer, it is understandable that they were not intimately familiar with the actual ingredients. After muddling through this thread I'm sure you can appreciate the difficulty one can have in getting it right.

Spacegeezer
04-23-2008, 04:06 AM
AAnd just to win the world trophy of pedantry, I found this on the importer's website:

"Dominica Bay Rum is a naturally pure organic fragrance with no artificial dyes, fragrances, or synthetic enhancers of any kind. The art of making authentic quality bay rum lies in the masterful blending of the purest of alcohol and the leaf oil extract from the Caribbean bay tree (Pimenta racemosa)."

http://www.calantilles.com/catcframes/Products/prod01.html

So it is about as certain as anything can be that the other label is in error.

fatt_tony
04-23-2008, 07:22 AM
Well I guess that solves my question. Now I need to find someone to send me some Caribbean bay tree leaves or try to grow one myself in Texas.:001_smile

UncleSticky
05-03-2008, 08:48 AM
Order some essential oil of Bay from some place like Camden Grey (http://www.camdengrey.com/) or Snowdrift Farms (http://www.snowdriftfarm.com/essentialoils.html), then you don't need the leaves. The reason it seems to have "rum" in it is because they used to extract the oils from the bay leaves using rum. I don't think it really has rum in it anymore despite the recipies on line to the contrary. I am trying to perfect a Bay Rum aftershave myself... found the following list of ingredients @ Burts Bees to get an idea of the types of oils used in their formula. the stuff like rosemary extract is more for preventing the oils from becoming rancid in the mixture. In addition to their toning effects, alcohol or witch hazel also has an emulsifying effect so the water and oil will blend. I'll let everyone know how the first attempt comes out in a few days. Obviously I am not using EVERYTHING that BB uses in thiers... for instance, I plan to substitute eucalyptus mint oil for the menthol and will probably switch cinnamon for allspice since cinnamon can be a skin irritant.


water, alcohol denat., glycerin, avena sativa (oat) kernel protein, hamamelis virginiana (witch hazel) water, tocopheryl acetate, menthol, xanthan gum, chamomilla recutita (matricaria) flower extract, rosmarinus officinalis (rosemary) extract, ascorbic acid, citric acid, pimenta acris (bay) leaf oil, citrus aurantium dulcis (orange) peel oil, citrus medica limonum (lemon) peel oil, cinnamomum cassia (cinnamon) leaf oil, abies sibirica (fir needle) oil, lavandula hybrida (lavandin) oil, juniperus mexicana (cedarwood) oil, pogostemon cablin (patchouli) oil, eugenia caryophyllus (clove) flower oil, salvia officinalis (sage) oil

Spacegeezer
05-04-2008, 12:56 AM
Order some essential oil of Bay from some place like Camden Grey (http://www.camdengrey.com/) or Snowdrift Farms (http://www.snowdriftfarm.com/essentialoils.html), <shortened because it's all right there one post up>.


Cool stuff! Be sure to post back here when you have a report on your mix.

hack
05-10-2008, 06:59 PM
Bacardi 151.

eventyrer
04-26-2010, 01:36 PM
Why buy the EO of the plant? In that case, why not just buy the bloody bottle of aftershave? Like those that would rather make their own beer than buy Budweiser (or even a local micro brew), these enthusiasts shun capitalism in its current form (okay, with that statement, I might be putting words in their mouths :). I applaud all of you that want to experiment with this. This is the next step in the revolution of traditional wet shaving, and traditional manliness... there I go again.
MY POINT:
There are Bay Rum trees for sale on EBAY for god's sake. check this out:
http://cgi.ebay.com/BAY-RUM-TREE-Pimenta-racemosa-Cologne-Scent-Plant-SP-/130378935808
And if you live in northern climates like I do--in Minnesota--where the hardiness of the Pimenta Racemosa will not survive below 25 degrees Fahrenheit, then grown it indoors like any other tropical plant that you grow inside. It doesn't get THAT big. At IKEA, we sell plants that get much bigger than the bay tree. I've heard it's one of the poisonous plants in the family, except for the allspice berry that it produces (at lease, I've read that the allspice berry comes from this plant, or a related plant) so make sure the dog or cat or kids don't want to eat the tree. In doing this you'll break the chain of globalization and be self-sufficient. Afterwards, you can start growing a peace garden.

P.S.: that ebay sight I put up isn't my listing, and I have balls to do with that seller. Find a different seller on ebay if you don't believe me; that was just the first one that I found.
P.S.S. make sure this plant isn't going to become an invasive species in your area. I work with a local organization to rid the Mississippi river gorge of invasive species such as buck-thorn and raspberry bushes, among others, and restore it to the traditional floodplains, oak savannas, and prairie lands that existed there before. It's tough work.
P.S.S.S I'm not some dumbass hippie that hates all corporations and wants to hug trees all day; I also like guns and stuff, too, and am all for establishing a male-identity such as those attributes found on the art of manliness blog.
At the end of this experiment, you may find you like having a plant in your apt\house, and decide to start growing some herbs, too. I like plants with a purpose.

Dougger
04-26-2010, 05:31 PM
This is among the many that i have found: (http://www.bayrum.info/) It seems real easy. Also I had read somewhere you could add a few drops of gylcerin when the mix is finished.

4 Ounces Vodka
2 Tablespoons Jamaican Rum
2 Dried Bay Leaves
1/4 Teaspoon Allspice
1 Stick of Cinnamon, broken in pieces
Fresh Zest from a Small Orange

Combine all ingredients in a container such as a bottle or mason jar with a tightly fitting lid. Put the closed container in a dark, cool place (not in the refrigerator). After two weeks, strain mixture through several layers of cheesecloth, paper towels or a coffee filter. If necessary, repeat until no residue remains. Put in an attractive bottle or atomizer and splash on or spray face after shaving.

I just mixed this recipe up about 10 minutes ago. We will see how it turns out. I used Bay Rum EO instead of the leaves though.

TxPhoto09
04-28-2010, 07:50 PM
I came late to this thread, but I see that eventyrer has found the bay tree(s) for sale on eBay. Mine was reportedly shipped today, April 28, so we'll see what happens. I still have to find sources of some of the other ingredients. Don't expect a finished bay rum for a few weeks, I think.

Dougger
05-10-2010, 09:33 PM
4 Ounces Ever Clear
2 Tablespoons Jamaican Rum
10 drops Bay Rum EO
1 Stick of Cinnamon, broken in pieces
Fresh Zest from two limes - use more if you want it more limey
8 drops Sandalwood EO
1 oz Witch Hazel

I used this for my last batch and it is my Favorite so far. My skin loves it. Thanks for this post.

Speedwell68
07-08-2010, 07:32 AM
Just to clarify something about these recipies, when you refer to 'ounces' are you saying fluid ounces as in volume or regular ounces as in weight?

TheVez2
07-08-2010, 08:04 AM
Volume.

Speedwell68
07-09-2010, 04:55 AM
Volume.

Thanks.:thumbup1:

amcardon
09-11-2010, 10:57 PM
4 Ounces Ever Clear
2 Tablespoons Jamaican Rum
10 drops Bay Rum EO
1 Stick of Cinnamon, broken in pieces
Fresh Zest from two limes - use more if you want it more limey
8 drops Sandalwood EO
1 oz Witch Hazel

I used this for my last batch and it is my Favorite so far. My skin loves it. Thanks for this post.

Just made a batch similar to this but I used some allspice berries and black peppercorns coarsely ground and no sandalwood EO (didn't have any on hand). Gonna let it sit for a couple weeks to pull anything out of the pepper, allspice, lime zest and cinnamon that it can... Really curious to see how it turns out. I use Ogallala Bay Rum AS and love it, this is too limey for that but I would love to find a recipe that matches theirs; maybe the one on the art of manliness' site is similar...

By the way, did you feel like the 10 drops pimenta racemosa EO was sufficient?

Yeah, I know it's a couple months old; that's alright!

Professor Blighty
09-12-2010, 04:35 AM
Hi,

I'm new here and not sure how to do this, I hope this link works.

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=165887

This is what you're looking for, it consistently provides outstanding results.

Scroll down until you come to my post, and the recipe is there.

daleroller
09-12-2010, 11:18 AM
I am kind of lazy, don't want to spend the money on bay rum oil, and can't bring myself to waste a drop of good rum on my body when it could be happily be mingling with a coke and lime in my stomach:tongue_sm.
I love me some Superior 70 bay rum. It is cheap ($2 a bottle), easily available and has a good clean bay Rum scent that I am not sure can be beat commercially or home made. Still, sometimes I want something a little more complex, spicier like my Pinaud Virgin Island bay rum but with some of my other favorite scents mixed in.
I plan on starting out with a bottle of Superior 70 as my base, and adding essence of Lime, a stick o' cinamin, a heaping tablespoon of orange zest, a few drops of clove oil, eye of newt and tongue of bat to see if my new hellbrew has become the ULTIMATE panty dropper love potion ever created.

life2short1971
09-12-2010, 11:49 AM
This is among the many that i have found: (http://www.bayrum.info/) It seems real easy. Also I had read somewhere you could add a few drops of gylcerin when the mix is finished.

4 Ounces Vodka
2 Tablespoons Jamaican Rum
2 Dried Bay Leaves
1/4 Teaspoon Allspice
1 Stick of Cinnamon, broken in pieces
Fresh Zest from a Small Orange

Combine all ingredients in a container such as a bottle or mason jar with a tightly fitting lid. Put the closed container in a dark, cool place (not in the refrigerator). After two weeks, strain mixture through several layers of cheesecloth, paper towels or a coffee filter. If necessary, repeat until no residue remains. Put in an attractive bottle or atomizer and splash on or spray face after shaving.
Your making me thirsty

Pungo Lee
09-12-2010, 02:54 PM
Thats all I would need, to show up at the Office smelling like I hit the bottle before stepping in.
This stuff sounds scary, but interesting.

amcardon
09-12-2010, 04:10 PM
Hi,

I'm new here and not sure how to do this, I hope this link works.

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?t=165887

This is what you're looking for, it consistently provides outstanding results.

Scroll down until you come to my post, and the recipe is there.

For your recipe are you using pimenta racemosa leaves or bay leaves from the store? I had wondered about cloves... I don't drink but I think I have a bottle of bacardi puerto rican rum (the clear kind, "superior" or something I think), what's the difference between that and dark jamaican rum? I don't know if its molasses that gives dark rum its color or what, I just know I have some clear rum on hand so why buy more if it gives similar results!

Has anybody else used black pepper in their bay rum? Sounded interesting...

cswann1
09-25-2010, 02:12 PM
4 Ounces Ever Clear
2 Tablespoons Jamaican Rum
10 drops Bay Rum EO
1 Stick of Cinnamon, broken in pieces
Fresh Zest from two limes - use more if you want it more limey
8 drops Sandalwood EO
1 oz Witch Hazel

I used this for my last batch and it is my Favorite so far. My skin loves it. Thanks for this post.

Right-on brutha! I've been wanting try to make my own Bay Rum AS and I was thinking pure grain alcohol would be the way to go.

Also, anyone tried using a touch of Orange and Lavender extract? What about a little Eucalyptus?

wintermute2
09-30-2010, 01:12 PM
I wonder if you could use bayberry (myrica pensylvanica) leaves in place of the laurel leaves. They smell similar to real (cooking-type) bay leaves and can be used as a food flavoring as well. Where I live, we're lousy with them, just head to the beach and start picking leaves.

klassic1
03-18-2011, 04:10 PM
I'm gonna mix up some Bay Rum this weekend. Tho i plan to cheet a lil bit.
Gonna start with about half the bottle of Master's Bay Rum, throw in a cinnamon stick, add a lil cap'n morgan and rubbin' alcohol, coconut pulp, and orange zest...see how that mixes up....and if all goes well I will have developed the ultimate panty dropper....ah ah ah....

jessea12
10-02-2011, 11:44 AM
I use myers dark rum and witch hazel as the base, 3 to 1 with witch hazel being the more dominant part, then mix whatever EO's you want.

doctordial
11-03-2011, 08:18 PM
I found a store online that sells the pimenta racemosa oil.

xMackx
11-04-2011, 12:06 AM
As a DIY guy I find this very interesting and may try it when I run out of my aftershave. :)

Costabro
06-21-2012, 09:27 AM
Does anyone see a problem with using a pinch of pipe tobacco in this first recipe mentioned? On the artofmanliness.com forum, one warned of the poisonous nature of the nicotine in the tobacco. Having used tobacco for most of my life, I didn't feel the consequences from a little topical application one year removed from using tobacco daily would be disastrous. Any thing I'm overlooking here?(attention any chemists in the house!)


This is among the many that i have found: (http://www.bayrum.info/)It seems real easy. Also I had read somewhere you could add a few drops of gylcerin when the mix is finished.

4 Ounces Vodka
2 Tablespoons Jamaican Rum
2 Dried Bay Leaves
1/4 Teaspoon Allspice
1 Stick of Cinnamon, broken in pieces
Fresh Zest from a Small Orange

Combine all ingredients in a container such as a bottle or mason jar with a tightly fitting lid. Put the closed container in a dark, cool place (not in the refrigerator). After two weeks, strain mixture through several layers of cheesecloth, paper towels or a coffee filter. If necessary, repeat until no residue remains. Put in an attractive bottle or atomizer and splash on or spray face after shaving.

TheVez2
06-21-2012, 10:20 AM
On the artofmanliness.com forum, one warned of the poisonous nature of the nicotine in the tobacco.

As long as you are not drinking it, I don't see a problem.

Costabro
07-07-2012, 11:19 AM
4 Ounces Ever Clear
2 Tablespoons Jamaican Rum
10 drops Bay Rum EO
1 Stick of Cinnamon, broken in pieces
Fresh Zest from two limes - use more if you want it more limey
8 drops Sandalwood EO
1 oz Witch Hazel

I used this for my last batch and it is my Favorite so far. My skin loves it. Thanks for this post.


I tried this one less the sandalwood and witch hazel (as I didn't have any sandalwood EO and didn't want to dillute the sting) and think it smells better than the origianl concoction with vodka, orange zest, and my added touch of clove and pipe tobacco. It definately has a more refined (read modern) smell that only leaves slight traces of cinammon and lime after a half hour or so. I'm definately making some batches for family!

isaac d.
07-07-2012, 11:35 AM
I've been researching homemade aftershaves for a couple months now (finally ordered my EO's) but from what I've been reading, essential oils are the way to go vs. raw ingredients. You will get a better overall sent that last much longer than when raw products are used. I can't say how true this is, but soon I'll find out when all my stuff arrives! It's probably gonna end up being another addictive hobby lol.

KipNoxzema
07-10-2012, 06:42 PM
My recipe is simple. To an empty 8 ounce bottle, add one sample bottle of spiced rum (2 oz?); add enough witch hazel to fill the bottle. Add a pinch of menthol crystals, which have been crushed into a fine powder. Shake well and let the alcohol dissolve the crystals.
It leaves a refreshing feeling and you can add your favorite cologne later because the clean scent dissipates. Or add your favorite scent to it. This is the fun of making your own quality AS.