Starbucks closes all stores- nobody notices

[ouch]

Too bad it's only for a night. :lol:

[analog_kid]

Right now people are losing their minds because they can't buy 8oz of milk and sugar with a splash of coffee for $7.

[ouch]

Here's a clip of our very own roastmaster, Din, giving his opinion of Starbucks' founders, Mark "Cutback" Davis and Bob "Jungle Death" Gerard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwUegUaePy8&feature=related

[TimmyBoston]

Here's a clip of our very own roastmaster, Din, giving his opinion of Starbucks' founders, Mark "Cutback" Davis and Bob "Jungle Death" Gerard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwUegUaePy8&feature=related

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Howard Newell]

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: "Hey, there's no birthday party for me in here!"

[Dinder1]

Here's a clip of our very own roastmaster, Din, giving his opinion of Starbucks' founders, Mark "Cutback" Davis and Bob "Jungle Death" Gerard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwUegUaePy8&feature=related

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

[Androclese]

I'm definitely missing something here, but given the youtube clip, I'm not sure I want to know what it is.:biggrin:

[bluesbro1982]

lol. Best. Movie. Ever.

"Mister if you don't shut up I'm gonna kick 100% of your ass!"

I was in elementary school just at the tail end of ditto machines - and WE even knew to sniff the paper for the solvent :-)

[kwk285]

Too bad it's only for a night. :lol:

If I said such a thing living here in the Seattle area, the Starbucks Mafia would show up and I would never be heard from again.:biggrin:

[ouch]

If I said such a thing living here in the Seattle area, the Starbucks Mafia would show up and I would never be heard from again.:biggrin:

Ooh, the Seattle mob. Over here, we call them the Girl Scouts.

[Newfie]

As an FYI in case anyone hasn't heard, they closed 'em all for 3 hours to say they were "Training" all their Baristas (Baristi??). Quote from a popular coffee site below:


I asked at the Sbux near my house, and they said that corporate has recently increased shot timing from 13-17 sec to 15-19 sec. They said drinks are being refigured, with the amount of shots per drink increased by one. Because of these changes, employees are being retrained in drink building.

Now, a good question is, training 'em to do what?? Use the "Superauto" machines they're known for??

What a joke and awesome PR Stunt!!!!!

BTW, I admit it, NO, I DON'T LIKE 4Bucks!!!

[kwk285]

I don't drink coffee but my wife is an addict. We were watching the news last night and they spent a long time on a story talking about all of the things that these people were be retrained on. The funniest thing they talked about is the noise that the machine should make when foaming the milk. It should be a shoothing hum versus a loud shrill. Whatever.

[Mr-Scruffy]

Apparently Dunkin Donuts took notice:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/02/27/2008-02-27_starbucks_takes_coffee_break-1.html

[ouch]

As an FYI in case anyone hasn't heard, they closed 'em all for 3 hours to say they were "Training" all their Baristas (Baristi??).

As if it weren't bad enough having to deal with snooty waiters and pretentious sommeliers, now we have to deal with baristas with even more inflated egos.

They're glorified soda jerks. :lol:

[-bp-]

Say what you will about Starbucks. But without them, most of America would still be drinking Dunkin Donuts coffee and thinking it was the greatest thing ever.
Doing something consistently well (like making a decent, fairly fresh $1.70 12-oz. cup of coffee) might not be as romantic as some would like, but it's better than nothing.
And just to be fair, unless you're drinking espresso that's hand pulled from a Gaggia Achille or the like, a machine is making your espresso for you, just like it is for a barista at Starbucks.
I don't want ritual. I just want coffee. Black.
I pick on Dunkin Donuts because their coffee has the lowest amount of caffeine per 12 oz. of any national chain (according to an MSN.com story). THAT'S JUST WRONG!
If I could just figure out how to mainline caffeine, I could dispense with this coffee drinking crap altogether:biggrin:

[analog_kid]

Say what you will about Starbucks. But without them, most of America would still be drinking Dunkin Donuts coffee and thinking it was the greatest thing ever.
Doing something consistently well (like making a decent, fairly fresh $1.70 12-oz. cup of coffee) might not be as romantic as some would like, but it's better than nothing.
And just to be fair, unless you're drinking espresso that's hand pulled from a Gaggia Achille or the like, a machine is making your espresso for you, just like it is for a barista at Starbucks.
I don't want ritual. I just want coffee. Black.
I pick on Dunkin Donuts because their coffee has the lowest amount of caffeine per 12 oz. of any national chain (according to an MSN.com story). THAT'S JUST WRONG!
If I could just figure out how to mainline caffeine, I could dispense with this coffee drinking crap altogether:biggrin:

I personally think DD does have better coffee! :w00t:

[boboakalfb]

Doing something consistently well (like making a decent, fairly fresh $1.70 12-oz. cup of coffee) might not be as romantic as some would like, but it's better than nothing.


Consistent...sure...but I don't think their drip coffee is very good. They are convenient though. I'll usually order an Americano.

[sol92258]

I've yet to try Dunkin Donuts, but my experience with Starbucks (all paid by gift card, btw, none of my $$$$) has been disappointing. It's not bad, but not near justifiable for the price. The research last year was correct...even McD's coffee tastes better.
Best coffee in my area is a little convenience store near my house, 16 oz for $.96, for those times I haven't the minutes to make it at home

[Ltltony]

Wow, a lot of Starbucks hate in here. Bashing the workers seems inappropriate. It's a great job while going through college or for many single mothers as they give heath insurance for part time.

They did actually shut down for training. The founder Howard Schultz, took it back over and felt the company got way off track and needed to focus on coffee instead of all the other things it was trying to add in. Everyone was trained on the proper way to used and make everything as well as to make sure they would be able to give the customers advice on the differences in the different types of beans and such.

People DID NOTICE, and in a big way. There were several very angry customers at the location near me. Knocking on drive through windows, yelling, complaining, etc.

I have family that work for the company and almost everyone I have meet has been really nice. The company also give a lot to charity and does a lot of it's own work as well.

I don't understand bashing a place for making $4 coffee but being willing to buy $30 shaving cream.

[Limey]

GROW...CHANGE or DIE. 3 hours of closed time isn't going to change much of anything for Starbuck's.

[Ltltony]

GROW...CHANGE or DIE. 3 hours of closed time isn't going to change much of anything for Starbuck's.

I have had a few company changing meetings that lasted less than 3 hours so I very much disagree with you.

[Holton181]

I have family that work for the company and almost everyone I have meet has been really nice. The company also give a lot to charity and does a lot of it's own work as well.

I don't understand bashing a place for making $4 coffee but being willing to buy $30 shaving cream.

Right on. The people at the Starbucks near my job know my drink before I order it. At school, I'm bussed in and out, suprised on how effcient it is.

I remember talking to one of the managers at the SB at school. She was a senior, and she had worked at SB for six years. The benefits, she said, went were amazing. She also mentioned that people complain about the prices and such. She told me that the only time they raise prices is when they want to give their loyal and faithful employess raises.

They are also dedicated to growth within the company. That same college senior has the choice of running her own New York store (they make a ton of money for fodd service managers) or working in the corporate headquarters as soon as she graduates. A little training to get the staff back in line with their plans is fine with me in my opinion.

[mightemacs]

I've yet to try Dunkin Donuts, but my experience with Starbucks (all paid by gift card, btw, none of my $$$$) has been disappointing. It's not bad, but not near justifiable for the price. The research last year was correct...even McD's coffee tastes better.
Best coffee in my area is a little convenience store near my house, 16 oz for $.96, for those times I haven't the minutes to make it at home

Actually, IMHO McDonald's has the best coffee of all the national chains. Ever since they switched to the Newman's coffee, I've had better luck with their coffee than Dunks or Starbucks.

[ouch]

Wow, a lot of Starbucks hate in here. Bashing the workers seems inappropriate. It's a great job while going through college or for many single mothers as they give heath insurance for part time.

There's a decent book about that- Starbucks Saved My Life.



People DID NOTICE, and in a big way. There were several very angry customers at the location near me. Knocking on drive through windows, yelling, complaining, etc.

Wow. There are angry people in Detroit? I'll have to make a note of that.


I don't understand bashing a place for making $4 coffee but being willing to buy $30 shaving cream.

How the heck is the average Joe going to be able to afford $30 pots of cream if he's squandering $4 on a cup of coffee? :lol:

[analog_kid]

Wow. There are angry people in Detroit? I'll have to make a note of that.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny4a-oxOndo




:biggrin:

[Androclese]

Ok, I've only been in the place once so I'm not surprised that this little blip went completely over my head. The one time I did try the coffee. It took me a full 60 seconds to figure out they didn't have what I wanted on the menu and another 60 seconds to get the young lady behind the counter to understand what a plain cup of coffee was.

The lesson I learned: "Doctor, it hurts when I do this... Well stop doing that"

[cr8n]

I don't understand bashing a place for making $4 coffee but being willing to buy $30 shaving cream.

.... owwwww. This is gonna hurt. Especially for guys like me who eat a cake of Tabac every morning.

Paul

(P.S. ... red ... herring? ...)

[Isaias]

Starbusks tastes Like PISS...
Ok that is an exageration... but it does taste like mold-filled pencills boiled in tab water. It is just bad. I rather slap my face to an awaken state than drink SB coffee.
It could cost 1 dollar for 20 oz and it would still be expensive for me. Now I am not comparing it to Etiopian, Mexican, South American coffees... not fair, I am talking about the regular Gas station Coffee, McDondalds, BK options.
Their chocolate is average and the muffins too. Still expensive though.
About the workers... they are doing their job. As honorable as anyone else.

Tabac cake... Tabac expensive? I have a year old puck that costed 15 + S&H. It's nothing! I haven't finished half of it. I bet it does not even cost more than 5 scents per shave... and it is IMO the best shaving soap.

[rikrdo]

Not that I'm a big fan but there are times when a cuppa joe is a requirement.
I always order a small (think its called a "tall") RedEye - cup of coffee plus a shot of espresso.
Runs me about $2 and aint half bad.

[prophetic_joe]

I actually don't hate Starbucks. I'm not a huge fan as I would generally prefer going to a little mom and pop type coffee shop but I like Starbucks coffee from time to time.

[PHormality]

It was a brilliant marketing move. They got so much free press and a lot of people are going to go tomorrow to try out why this nation wide closure gets them in terms of coffee

[scoopster]

You folks see the Daily's show's piece on this. Pretty funny although I gagged big-time when the "Journalist" was drinking the old coffee, amoung other items, from the cup found in the trashcan.

[Newfie]

snip....I don't understand bashing a place for making $4 coffee but being willing to buy $30 shaving cream.

Tony, with all due respect, I don't even see how this could even come close to being a remote comparison.

A $4 coffee is going to last you ........... what ............ 15 minutes (unless you like drinking it cold) whereas that $30 tub of shaving cream will cost you pennies a use and last months or years depending on how many $30 tubs you have. Why don't you "REALLY" go overboard and compare a coffee to a $90 bottle of Penhaligons??

IMHO, what I would pay $4 for at $Bux, I could make at home for less that $0.50, and also IMHO would be better. (NOTE: That IS taking into account the ~ $800 I spent on my current setup, amortized over all the coffees I've made at home since I got it.) That is no slight on the people who work there, it's the "Nuked Charcoal" beans they use and the "Hi-tech-super-auto-push-one-button-and-you're-done" processes. I personally have never been treated badly by anyone who works at any coffee shop and can honestly say the youngsters at $Bux have been more than polite and considerate. However, what gives them the right to charge that much for a flippin' coffee?

It ain't the people most of us are complaining about, dude, it's the flippin' company and the business. I mean, if their coffee was reasonably priced would I drink it?? Sure I would. I enjoy a coffee, and their Americanos ARE somewhat decent, and less-than-good coffee is better than nuttin'

Now, that being said, the owners of that company have just a little more money than I do, so who the hell am I to complain???:blushing::lol:

[tea goober]

You know, Starbucks doesn't make their own baked goods. Here in TX I think most of the breakfast stuff is brought in from Whole Foods Market.

[djh]

Man, I leeerrrrvv coffee and luckily we still have several Italian-run coffee shops in the city here which means that I don't need to ever visit S-bux.

[Tyronious]

I don't understand bashing a place for making $4 coffee but being willing to buy $30 shaving cream.

Ooooooh snap!

Dats yo' ass na'!!!

lol

[DunEdinRanger]

Say what you will about Starbucks. But without them, most of America would still be drinking Dunkin Donuts coffee and thinking it was the greatest thing ever.
...

Starbucks, over burnt, over priced, over pretentious coffee is?

[tea goober]

I realize I,m wasting my time defending Starbucks, but here go's anyways. In a blind taste test I,m not sure I could pick out the pretentious cup. Pretentious? That's a perceived affectation that has nothing to do with the coffee itself. Which ones are the pretentious coffees? The Sumatra? Or maybe it's the Guatemalan, yeah I bet that's the one. Burnt coffee? The shuttles that they use makes it physically impossible for the coffee to burn. Expensive? I,ll give you that one. Now the legitamate issues as far as quality go's is when they went from small batch roasters to large scale industrial machines. And also switching to automatic espresso machines. Both of these "improvments" made a significant difference in the cup. But heres the issue with those old fashioned, tradtitional machines. They are very tempermental, I remember working in a store in Dallas where if a customer opened the door on the south side of the building it would create a vacuum, and throw the shots way off. When you have a line of twenty people waiting for the drinks and your trying to time your shots in between the doors opening and closing it can be kinda nerve wracking. So, those older machines are capable of making a superior shot but that doesn't mean that every shot coming out of them was a good shot. Starbucks biggest mistake was in trying to be everything to everybody, and opening a store on every damned corner in the country. I love the Simpsons episode where Lisa go's into the bathroom at Starbucks just to find another Starbucks inside the bathroom. People believe what they want, usually regardless of the facts.

[VR6ofpain]

Expensive? I,ll give you that one.
I don't agree this is 100% true.

Starbucks charges $1.50 for a 12oz (tall) coffee. That is comparable to the going rate everywhere else...but in some cases Starbucks is even cheaper. Most restaurants charge $2 for their awful coffee. Ya you can get refills, but I would rather have a single cup from Starbucks, as it tastes much better.

If you buy the espresso drinks you must be paying for all the cream, syrup, and milk. You can get a 12oz (two shots) Americano (espresso and hot water) for less than $2.

So it all depends on what you buy from Starbucks, but they do have some products that are priced very well. Buying whole bean coffee from them? Sure that is overpriced, but I buy my coffee for the home from Costco, where you can get 3 lbs for the same price as 1 lbs from Starbucks.

[SiBurning]

I don't agree this is 100% true.

Starbucks charges $1.50 for a 12oz (tall) coffee. That is comparable to the going rate everywhere else...but in some cases Starbucks is even cheaper. Most restaurants charge $2 for their awful coffee. Ya you can get refills, but I would rather have a single cup from Starbucks, as it tastes much better.

If you buy the espresso drinks you must be paying for all the cream, syrup, and milk. You can get a 12oz (two shots) Americano (espresso and hot water) for less than $2.

So it all depends on what you buy from Starbucks, but they do have some products that are priced very well. Buying whole bean coffee from them? Sure that is overpriced, but I buy my coffee for the home from Costco, where you can get 3 lbs for the same price as 1 lbs from Starbucks.
And 50 cent refills all day. Beats the office coffee machine.

But this thread is so old it's even gone past the date Starbucks would've put on it.

[TonyH]

Starbucks = Mac computers.


Flame on.

[LexusAussie]

Whether it's McDipsticks, Burger King or Staryucks - if it's from a national chain of stores it's crap. The stuff they produce is only related to good coffee by sharing the name coffee.

Sorry guys!

[tea goober]

Starbucks drink prices vary from state to state. In TX they are a little more expensive. How can anyone make such blanket statements like these? So if mom and pop coffee shops buy some of the same raw beans that Starbucks also uses is their coffee crap as well? Or is it only crap when Starbucks buys them? Oh well "wiping hands of the issue" enjoy your coffee.

[dpm802]

If I could just figure out how to mainline caffeine, I could dispense with this coffee drinking crap altogether:biggrin:Its not quite mainlining, but Trader Joe's has a product called "Espresso Pillows," Crunchy Toffeed Espresso Bits Covered In Dark Chocolate. A 2.75 oz container costs $2.49 and contains about 110 beans.

I keep a tin in my locker at work, and gulp these down to keep me chugging on the job. One tin lasts me about a week. I take 2 or 3 per hour depending on my work load, and they really do help to keep me moving.

I used to drink a lot of coffee every day, but that option isn't available anymore. These beans do just as good a job, and they're a lot cheaper than the $2.75 or so I was spending every day on a thermos fill-up at Starbucks.

They taste pretty good, too.

[Aevum]

i dont drink much coffee, but i can tell you one thing,
starbucks couldnt make tea to save their own life, its absolute waste water,

[FLTiger]

Most of the coffee I drink is from Starbucks. I buy their Kenya coffee, whole bean, for $11 and change per pound. I've tried coffees from our organic stores, and they aren't as good. The only thing comparable that I have found locally is a shop that deals in Kaldi coffee, and they sell theirs for $17 a pound--a price difference seldom worth paying.

You folks in the big cities, where there are places that roast their own beans are lucky. The rest of us, stuck in smaller places where 3/4 of the coffee shops are Starbucks or similar national chains, do not share in your good fortune.

WTB locally fresh roasted Kenyan coffee in Tallahassee Florida, PST.

[Greglam]

Wow, a lot of Starbucks hate in here. Bashing the workers seems inappropriate. It's a great job while going through college or for many single mothers as they give heath insurance for part time.

They did actually shut down for training. The founder Howard Schultz, took it back over and felt the company got way off track and needed to focus on coffee instead of all the other things it was trying to add in. Everyone was trained on the proper way to used and make everything as well as to make sure they would be able to give the customers advice on the differences in the different types of beans and such.

People DID NOTICE, and in a big way. There were several very angry customers at the location near me. Knocking on drive through windows, yelling, complaining, etc.

I have family that work for the company and almost everyone I have meet has been really nice. The company also give a lot to charity and does a lot of it's own work as well.

I don't understand bashing a place for making $4 coffee but being willing to buy $30 shaving cream.
+1 well said. (And I have no affiliation w/SBUX other than being a customer.) Is it the best coffee? No? Have I had MUCH better? Yes. But, guess what? I can't get that MUCH better coffee as easily or as cheaply as I can SBUX.

Have you seen the movie "Big Night"? Well, SBUX is the crowded place down the street from the joint with the snobby, perfectionist, purist chef who has no customers to cook for. While SBUX is certainly better than "Olive Garden" (if you get my comparison), it is certainly no Caffe d'Arte in Seattle, or any one of a thousand little joints in the neighborhoods of Rome, either, but it's the best we've got in a readily available supply.

"I've got news for you, Ray, K-Mart (DD/McD's) sucks."

Cheers!
-Greg

[Peter Mount]

I have a habit of substituting one of the letters when I say the word Starbucks. Let's just say I prefer not to go to any of their stores.

I live in Melbourne Australia and we have an extremely well developed coffee culture here.

As for McDonald's coffee they at least have the decency to charge me a fair price and that includes free refills so I don't mind having that. Not every day mind you.

[Peter Mount]

Starbucks = Mac computers.


Flame on.

As a Mac User I wish you many blessings with all your razor blades being substituted for BIC Disposables.

[s&g'sdad]

+1 on the mac. I switched and will never look back. As far as sbux goes, I like their coffee ok, but find it a bit expensive. I now buy Eight o' clock whole bean French Roast. Inexpensive and good.

Aaron

[Go West Young Man]

Hating on Starbucks is both way too easy and more than slightly pretentious.

[Peter Mount]

Hating on Starbucks is both way too easy and more than slightly pretentious.

I just don't like the coffee. What else am I going to do?

[DFrancis]

I prefer the coffee I make at home, and Starbucks is mostly to strong for my taste. No hate-on for them, sorry I can't stoke the flames.

[Slash McCoy]

Starbucks? Would Teddy Roosevelt or Harry Truman or John Wayne have been Starbucks customers?

Well, I think all that cappa-frappa-dappa latte mocha swirl triple ripple new wave raspberry syrup and skim milk froth stuff is not only ridiculously expensive, but kinda gay, too. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

I think it is just sad when I go into a coffee joint, and ask for a cup of coffee, and they look at me like I am an alien from another planet, before recovering their composure and looking down their nose at me and presuming to instruct me that what I should be asking for is an "Americaine" which apparently is espresso, watered down to approximate an actual cup of plain regular coffee. In other words, a fancy-pants foreign lavender-lane euro-style coffee drink disguised as regular guy coffee. And then have the nerve to charge me as much as I normally pay for well drinks in my usual bar. It's supposed to be COFFEE, PEOPLE! Giving it a flowery poofy name and a bunch of sissy foam on top doesn't make it worth more... it makes it worth less. And I prefer to be served by a middle aged waittress who cracks jokes and accidentally bumps me with her behind passing my table rather than some snot nose teenage self-important fingernail-polish and eye-shadow wearing designer-drug-using punk kid who will probably never amount to anything in life except another liberal gun-grabbing criminal-hugging taxaholic weak-sister politically correct vote against good government, personal liberty, and law and order.

If a refill doesn't come free and unasked for, it isn't real coffee. At least one free refill is a natural RIGHT of the coffee drinker. It is supposed to be poured, unbidden, into my cup before it is 2/3 empty. That's the way it is supposed to be. And I am supposed to leave a nice tip and call her Sweetheart and promise to come back for some more of her good coffee. Any other state of affairs is a bizzarre perversion and a violation of our most sacred expectations.

So I am glad they were shut down. I wish they could stay that way. They are helping to un-man America and should be eliminated from the urban landscape before it is too late and our young men start wearing mascara and Elizabeth Arden.

I am pretty sure that God doesn't like Starbucks. At least I can't see why he would. It would be un-American.

[Phog Allen]

Put me down as another non fan. As others mention, they must be doing something right to go on this long and the few times I have been they were nothing but courteous. I just don't like the flavour. I do not buy the sugared up mocha crappa whatever they call them. Just coffee or an espresso. It always tastes burned to me. I guess that would be over roasted? In any case I just can't buy stuff like that at any price. I have no issue with anyone who does. Just different tastes.

Regards, Todd

[Peter Mount]

Put me down as another non fan. As others mention, they must be doing something right to go on this long and the few times I have been they were nothing but courteous. I just don't like the flavour. I do not buy the sugared up mocha crappa whatever they call them. Just coffee or an espresso. It always tastes burned to me. I guess that would be over roasted? In any case I just can't buy stuff like that at any price. I have no issue with anyone who does. Just different tastes.

Regards, Todd

Yes. I too have no issue with people who like them. If somebody truly likes their coffee then that's OK with me. I just ask they respect my right to drink coffee from elsewhere.

[Ignatius]

Starbucks, Costa etc's arrival on these shores (UK) resulted in a pretty big increase in the quality of coffee widely available. Most cafes used to serve instant coffee. A lot still do. And its not that much cheaper than Starbucks. So, while Starbucks coffee may not be up the standards of gourmets, its a lot better than what we used to have. I used to buy from there myself, but realised I might as well have a coke habit or a predilection for high class call girls, cost-wise.

[Alacrity59]

Ok, I've only been in the place once so I'm not surprised that this little blip went completely over my head. The one time I did try the coffee. It took me a full 60 seconds to figure out they didn't have what I wanted on the menu and another 60 seconds to get the young lady behind the counter to understand what a plain cup of coffee was.

The lesson I learned: "Doctor, it hurts when I do this... Well stop doing that"

I happen to take my coffee black. I can't believe how frequently I've watched the server use the same spoon as they did for the last person's order to stir in the no cream and no sugar.

Mike

[grump]

I reluctantly went to Starbucks on the insistence of a friend who wanted to go there. I didn't know what to try, so I asked for a small sample that I paid 2 dollars for and we sat down. I notice the next 8 customers were ordering there coffee with sugar and cream or different flavoring.

Does Anyone go to Starbucks for black coffee?


I guess after the tasting experience I had, I will continue to make my Kona coffee at home. :thumbup:

[gaseousclay]

i'm not gonna hate on starbucks because I do drink their coffee once in a blue moon. the coffee snob in me refuses to frequent places like starbucks because I can get better quality fair-trade coffee from the grocery store for a fraction of the cost. i'll buy from starbucks out of convenience, but if I had to choose between starbucks or a locally owned coffee shop, i'll choose the locally owned shop first.

[California Cajun]

I reluctantly went to Starbucks on the insistence of a friend who wanted to go there. I didn't know what to try, so I asked for a small sample that I paid 2 dollars for and we sat down. I notice the next 8 customers were ordering there coffee with sugar and cream or different flavoring.

Does Anyone go to Starbucks for black coffee?


I guess after the tasting experience I had, I will continue to make my Kona coffee at home. :thumbup:

Yeah, I drink black decaf, and sometimes get some from Starbuck's when traveling out of town. It's good, but it does surprise me how long it takes to get served.

[VR6ofpain]

Whether it's McDipsticks, Burger King or Staryucks - if it's from a national chain of stores it's crap. The stuff they produce is only related to good coffee by sharing the name coffee.

Sorry guys!
I guess you speak for everyone? :001_rolle

[Jasonian]

Starbucks? Would Teddy Roosevelt or Harry Truman or John Wayne have been Starbucks customers?

Well, I think all that cappa-frappa-dappa latte mocha swirl triple ripple new wave raspberry syrup and skim milk froth stuff is not only ridiculously expensive, but kinda gay, too. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

I think it is just sad when I go into a coffee joint, and ask for a cup of coffee, and they look at me like I am an alien from another planet, before recovering their composure and looking down their nose at me and presuming to instruct me that what I should be asking for is an "Americaine" which apparently is espresso, watered down to approximate an actual cup of plain regular coffee. In other words, a fancy-pants foreign lavender-lane euro-style coffee drink disguised as regular guy coffee. And then have the nerve to charge me as much as I normally pay for well drinks in my usual bar. It's supposed to be COFFEE, PEOPLE! Giving it a flowery poofy name and a bunch of sissy foam on top doesn't make it worth more... it makes it worth less. And I prefer to be served by a middle aged waittress who cracks jokes and accidentally bumps me with her behind passing my table rather than some snot nose teenage self-important fingernail-polish and eye-shadow wearing designer-drug-using punk kid who will probably never amount to anything in life except another liberal gun-grabbing criminal-hugging taxaholic weak-sister politically correct vote against good government, personal liberty, and law and order.

If a refill doesn't come free and unasked for, it isn't real coffee. At least one free refill is a natural RIGHT of the coffee drinker. It is supposed to be poured, unbidden, into my cup before it is 2/3 empty. That's the way it is supposed to be. And I am supposed to leave a nice tip and call her Sweetheart and promise to come back for some more of her good coffee. Any other state of affairs is a bizzarre perversion and a violation of our most sacred expectations.

So I am glad they were shut down. I wish they could stay that way. They are helping to un-man America and should be eliminated from the urban landscape before it is too late and our young men start wearing mascara and Elizabeth Arden.

I am pretty sure that God doesn't like Starbucks. At least I can't see why he would. It would be un-American.
In short, to be American is to keep the third world under pressure, to pay less than a thing is worth to people who work harder than the buyer of their products.

Also, to be American also means that you think that God is like you.

You have also called a a happily married man a homosexual.

I'm sorry that our culture hasn't stayed stagnant, but some things are better off when they improve.

Not that it matters much. Yes, I realize that I fed the troll, but I can't help it when their mouth's are open and drooling like that.

[Scotto]

It's coffee, gentlemen. Lighten up, have a cup, and relax. Consider this the last word in this thread.