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rikrdo
01-30-2007, 01:14 PM
Are they welcome here or not ?
Vote now.

moviemaniac
01-30-2007, 01:18 PM
'course they are. :thumbup1:
Bring on da chicks :tongue_sm

dj88onmc
01-30-2007, 01:20 PM
Well, heck yeah they are!:smile: :smile:

Mottern Man
01-30-2007, 01:22 PM
Let the love in.

We should be able to take all commers!

qhsdoitall
01-30-2007, 01:23 PM
You'd throw Mama Bear off? Are you INSANE!

joel
01-30-2007, 01:24 PM
I am closing this poll, and this thread. Women/ladies ARE welcome here on the forum. For us to allow a poll to go on in my opinion is terribly poor form, in that a group of 2500 people - there are BOUND to be some users who will vote they are not welcome, which I feel isn't correct, gentlemanly or reasonable. I know if I were a woman, I'd hate to see even one person vote I wasn't welcomed/appreciated. Women are welcome here, simple as that.... there is no reason to hurt anyones feelings, and have someone respond with something otherwise, and cause problems.

ANYONE is welcome here provided they adhere to the guidelines set forth by the mod team, simple as that.

bishop
01-12-2008, 01:33 PM
Given the slow but steady conversion of B&B wives/girlfriends/etc to DE wetshaving, it would be helpful to have a subforum for the ladies. There are many threads with such content but a subforum would keep things together and make it easier to search.

tony mack
01-12-2008, 01:47 PM
Isn't Oprah and the rest of daytime TV forum enough for them?

bishop
01-12-2008, 02:05 PM
Isn't Oprah and the rest of daytime TV forum enough for them?

My wife said that was a very unenlightened answer. I, however, chuckled.

She doesn't even watch daytime TV, anyway. :wink:

tony mack
01-12-2008, 02:15 PM
your wife didn't notice you chuckling.

papasmurf
01-12-2008, 04:55 PM
Isn't Oprah and the rest of daytime TV forum enough for them?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




Lets keep the women out . just look what happened to the Beatles . Damn Yoko Ono


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

TimmyBoston
01-13-2008, 04:05 AM
We'll take this under advisement.

cl00bie
01-13-2008, 12:39 PM
Given the slow but steady conversion of B&B wives/girlfriends/etc to DE wetshaving, it would be helpful to have a subforum for the ladies. There are many threads with such content but a subforum would keep things together and make it easier to search.

I'd suggest a lady moderator for that particular sub forum.

DGuterman
06-26-2009, 10:12 PM
Since I've started stalking B&B and eventually registering, I have sat on the site refreshing it multiple times per day waiting for the newest posts to come up to read. The more I read, the more the obsession grows, and the more involved I find myself. Luckily for me, my SWMBO supports my crave for the perfect shave (TM). Considering her interest, and the fact that she's sat with me while shaving to attempt to indulge in the experience with me, I offered her to try it, obviously not on her face but the more female type regions, ie Legs.

Here on the B&B we obviously don't have a female forum, and I was unable to offer her much help beyond the usual face related information about prepping, shaving, etc, and she had nobody to compare experiences with, or threads to read for that little tip that pushes her over the top. So, I'm reaching out to all you fellas, I'm just curious if you had similar experiences:

1) Are your ladies into the experience of proper shaving?
2) Would they venture out to the B&B if there was a forum for them?

I do apologize if this has been covered in the past, or maybe I'm posting in the wrong section, but since the insomnia has got me up with 6 hours counting down till I'm supposed to wake up, I figured I'd post a little bit of what's on my mind.

Dan.

ambrose
06-27-2009, 12:35 AM
super idea

Nishnabotna
06-27-2009, 04:36 AM
Yes, good idea. There's more to shave than just the face.

JimBow
06-27-2009, 04:39 AM
Excellent idea. I'm sure women would be more apt to try it if there was a forum just for them.

Antique Hoosier
06-27-2009, 05:06 AM
You bring up an interesting point, ( which has been brought up maybe a short handful of times in the last three years I have been involved with the community) and I do not believe that Badger & Blade, primarily a forum dedicated to Gentlemen and their interest in traditional wet shaving, grooming, luxury items, "speakeasy" , "barber shop", coffees & teas etc excludes women.

I wonder where on the internet there is a female dominated forum that shares the spirit, comradery, education, humor etc that would be similar. The facts are women; from what I have learned over my 48 years, are wired a bit different from men... ( disclaimer...I'm divorced but was married for 21 years). I'm not sure B&B is a better place because it is I'm guessing 99.9% Male dominated membership, but it is just the fact that the way the forum was developed and has grown was aimed toward a place for Gentlemen.

I say keep B&B the way it is and ALL are welcome to participate, join, shave, experience all that is the community of Badger & Blade regardless of gender.... The facts are if women were drawn to our community.... they would already be here in higher numbers.

Bertilak
06-27-2009, 06:43 AM
Check out http://www.straightrazorplace.com/forums/. See the "Ladies Corner" forum. It even has a "Ladies Only" sub-forum.

And that's a straight razor board. My bet is there are more ladies shaving with safety razors than with straights!

DGuterman
06-27-2009, 06:54 AM
You bring up an interesting point, ( which has been brought up maybe a short handful of times in the last three years I have been involved with the community) and I do not believe that Badger & Blade, primarily a forum dedicated to Gentlemen and their interest in traditional wet shaving, grooming, luxury items, "speakeasy" , "barber shop", coffees & teas etc excludes women.

I wonder where on the internet there is a female dominated forum that shares the spirit, comradery, education, humor etc that would be similar. The facts are women; from what I have learned over my 48 years, are wired a bit different from men... ( disclaimer...I'm divorced but was married for 21 years). I'm not sure B&B is a better place because it is I'm guessing 99.9% Male dominated membership, but it is just the fact that the way the forum was developed and has grown was aimed toward a place for Gentlemen.

I say keep B&B the way it is and ALL are welcome to participate, join, shave, experience all that is the community of Badger & Blade regardless of gender.... The facts are if women were drawn to our community.... they would already be here in higher numbers.

Seems I may have struck a nerve. My apologies.

tsmba
06-27-2009, 06:55 AM
I know there are a few women who post here....and they have excellent insights. Perhaps offering a section for them would attract more female participation.

Antique Hoosier
06-27-2009, 07:11 AM
Seems I may have struck a nerve. My apologies.

In all honesty...kind of. Not in a malicious way.... I just like having our community that was founded by gentlemen to promote, educate, and enjoy each others company to endure as it is. My point is that B&B is unique in the fact that we do have a Global audience of mainly gentlemen, with the few women who actively post being a handful of vendors/soapmakers who support our obsessions. It is perfectly fine with me to allow open access to ANY person who would find education and enjoyment here. The simple facts are that the community caters primarily to gentlemen's issues.

This is the breakdown of World population by gender. The first figure is total number of men and women.... followed by Male population...then Female.... I guess my point is, Do we not attract more women because of a lack of a "Women's Section" or simply the fact that Women either see this as a site for Men, or simply have other venues?

World 6,829,360,438 MALE 3,442,850,573 FEMALE 3,386,509,865
source: UN Statistics Division, Department of Economic and Social Affairs. "World Population Prospects: The 2008 Revision".

SRock
06-27-2009, 07:18 AM
There are actually more woman here than you may have realized. Yes B&B is a gentleman's forum and yes it is probably 99.9% male but we do have some very fine ladies here.

SiBurning
06-27-2009, 08:56 AM
An alternative might be to add a subforum, perhaps under the shave clinic forum, for shaving areas other than the face. People who shave their head, legs, and what not would have a place to share techniques better suited to these other areas. It won't suit the whole purpose, but it has to be weighed against the participation a new forum would have.

Mrs. Chip
06-27-2009, 09:44 AM
I think a sub forum would be nice. I have been part of a shaving discussion and really get little or give little advice due to the vast difference between legs ect... and faces. DE shaving was not only for men in the beginning, women used them too. Men could discuss grooming openly and women couldn't, it wasn't a ladylike topic. It still isn't something women really talk about now which would explain the lack of women here.

I know there are a bunch of us on here but I rarely see posts by us. I'm not suggesting a place where we are segregated but a place to go to put our concerns, questions and comments that wouldn't normally be interesting to you men.

Bobtrumpet
06-27-2009, 10:27 AM
There is a separate Women's Shaving sub-forum (under Alternative Methods) over at The Shave Den:

http://www.theshaveden.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=25

tblech
06-27-2009, 10:41 AM
Yes, good idea. There's more to shave than just the face.

I shave more then the face...

bonusmarple
06-27-2009, 10:54 AM
I don't see an issue with having a ladies forum.

Stubblefield
06-27-2009, 07:13 PM
I think it is a great idea, but I would leave the choice of forming of a sub-forum up to the gals that post here. After all, it would be their forum.

Chrisjops
06-27-2009, 07:57 PM
Interesting post!
IMHO, one of the things i like about this forum is that it is a place for men to discuss man stuff. I say no to a womans forum here. My opinion.

C

RichGem
06-27-2009, 08:04 PM
An alternative might be to add a subforum, perhaps under the shave clinic forum, for shaving areas other than the face. People who shave their head, legs, and what not would have a place to share techniques better suited to these other areas. It won't suit the whole purpose, but it has to be weighed against the participation a new forum would have.

By all that is Cheddar! Please no more "what not" shaving. We've had more than enough of those threads in the past.

SRock
06-27-2009, 08:05 PM
By all that is Cheddar! Please no more "what not" shaving. We've had more than enough of those threads in the past.

Indeed those are murky and dangerous waters!

Stubblefield
06-27-2009, 08:16 PM
By all that is Cheddar! Please no more "what not" shaving. We've had more than enough of those threads in the past.
Really. If I see one more Mangroomer post or the phrase "down there" I'll hurl.

gollum83
06-27-2009, 08:18 PM
Interesting post!
IMHO, one of the things i like about this forum is that it is a place for men to discuss man stuff. I say no to a womans forum here. My opinion.

Why not? If there was a dedicated women's forum no one is going to force you to post, view or otherwise involve yourself there. So what is the harm? If they want a forum or sub-forum, let them have one.


By all that is Cheddar! Please no more "what not" shaving. We've had more than enough of those threads in the past.

By all that is cheddar? Jeez, that's cheesy even for you 'Czar' Rich! :tongue:

I have to agree though, there's more than enough "what not" and "down there" threads in the past to last us well into the future here. Though I think the worst one I seen was one over at SRP. Straights should not be used anywhere near down there! :eek::eek2::eek:

Edit: Apologies to Stubblefield! You should really learn speak up earlier! :biggrin:

SiBurning
06-27-2009, 08:32 PM
http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:oxneAjYTjMnGwM:http://www.tvgasm.com/shows/ostrich.png

Honestly, I think you guys need to ease off the after shave. I mean, mantic should've done this first. (But not with that Transformer thing.)

Shaving your feet: A guide. (http://www.instructables.com/id/Shaving_your_feet_A_guide/)

http://www.instructables.com/files/deriv/FSI/WDSR/FPIOM1PZ/FSIWDSRFPIOM1PZ.MEDIUM.jpg

rabidpotatochip
06-28-2009, 08:34 AM
Why not? If there was a dedicated women's forum no one is going to force you to post, view or otherwise involve yourself there. So what is the harm? If they want a forum or sub-forum, let them have one.

(snip)

<major sarcasm>Careful, next thing you know, those uppity women-folk might want to start voting... :tongue:</major sarcasm>

On to the serious stuff, I agree with you. What is the harm if there's a place for women to discuss shaving on this site? At the very least, what's the harm of having women discussing shaving in the general areas of this site? I've been around long enough to see this topic almost come up a few times but there are always a few guys (no one in particular, it's always different people) that shut it down under the guise of being "gentlemen". I am embarrassed and ashamed that there are men out there that not only don't involve their wives in things they love, but that they actively try to exclude women in general. If that's what being a gentleman is about, I'd rather be part of the unwashed masses.

I don't know about you guys, but I like women. I'd like to see more of them around. At the very least, they should feel welcome here. Don't try and turn the site pink or anything stupid like that, but at least make go out of your way to make their presence feel valued.

persco
06-28-2009, 08:49 AM
<major sarcasm>Careful, next thing you know, those uppity women-folk might want to start voting... :tongue:</major sarcasm>

On to the serious stuff, I agree with you. What is the harm if there's a place for women to discuss shaving on this site? At the very least, what's the harm of having women discussing shaving in the general areas of this site? I've been around long enough to see this topic almost come up a few times but there are always a few guys (no one in particular, it's always different people) that shut it down under the guise of being "gentlemen". I am embarrassed and ashamed that there are men out there that not only don't involve their wives in things they love, but that they actively try to exclude women in general. If that's what being a gentleman is about, I'd rather be part of the unwashed masses.

I don't know about you guys, but I like women. I'd like to see more of them around. At the very least, they should feel welcome here. Don't try and turn the site pink or anything stupid like that, but at least make go out of your way to make their presence feel valued.

+1. Super idea. Women contribute regularly over at straight razor place, and women have contributed some great threads here, too.

Antique Hoosier
06-28-2009, 08:59 AM
You bring up an interesting point, ( which has been brought up maybe a short handful of times in the last three years I have been involved with the community) and I do not believe that Badger & Blade, primarily a forum dedicated to Gentlemen and their interest in traditional wet shaving, grooming, luxury items, "speakeasy" , "barber shop", coffees & teas etc excludes women.

I wonder where on the internet there is a female dominated forum that shares the spirit, comradery, education, humor etc that would be similar. The facts are women; from what I have learned over my 48 years, are wired a bit different from men... ( disclaimer...I'm divorced but was married for 21 years). I'm not sure B&B is a better place because it is I'm guessing 99.9% Male dominated membership, but it is just the fact that the way the forum was developed and has grown was aimed toward a place for Gentlemen.

I say keep B&B the way it is and ALL are welcome to participate, join, shave, experience all that is the community of Badger & Blade regardless of gender.... The facts are if women were drawn to our community.... they would already be here in higher numbers.

Please don't be embarrased or ashamed at my suggestion that I'm all for inclusion of any person interested in B&B. I simply pointed out that if there was such a great demand for a female subforum, we would have the sheer number of female members who utilize our community. The fact is that we do not. Is that a good thing? A bad thing? It is simply the truth. Oh and I love, adore, and respect women....

rabidpotatochip
06-28-2009, 09:04 AM
Please don't be embarrased or ashamed at my suggestion that I'm all for inclusion of any person interested in B&B. I simply pointed out that if there was such a great demand for a female subforum, we would have the sheer number of female members who utilize our community. The fact is that we do not. Is that a good thing? A bad thing? It is simply the truth. Oh and I love, adore, and respect women....

I assumed you weren't one of the people saying no to a women's forum, just that you were pointing out there aren't that many here. I've read most of your posts since I signed up here so I know you didn't mean any harm by your comment.

Again, it never seems to be specific people, it's more of a specific attitude that comes in every now and then.

Antique Hoosier
06-28-2009, 09:14 AM
I've read most of your posts since I signed up here....

I didn't know you spent much time in the BST area:lol::tongue::lol:

ANYTHING is possible as far as a SWMBO subforum.... they are "sprouting" up lately.... never thought there would be a Razor Blade subforum... so it is very possible.

DISCLAIMER...I AM NEITHER FOR OR AGAINST A RAZOR BLADE SUBFORUM...OR ANY SUBFORUM FOR THAT MATTER UNLESS IT IS A SUBFORUM OF SUBFORUMS

gollum83
06-28-2009, 09:31 AM
I didn't know you spent much time in the BST area:lol::tongue::lol:

Chip is everywhere and nowhere, sort like a ninja with a smart mouth that doesn't know when to shut up. :ninja:

rabidpotatochip
06-28-2009, 09:38 AM
I didn't know you spent much time in the BST area:lol::tongue::lol:

ANYTHING is possible as far as a SWMBO subforum.... they are "sprouting" up lately.... never thought there would be a Razor Blade subforum... so it is very possible.

DISCLAIMER...I AM NEITHER FOR OR AGAINST A RAZOR BLADE SUBFORUM...OR ANY SUBFORUM FOR THAT MATTER UNLESS IT IS A SUBFORUM OF SUBFORUMS

I think the next guy said it best... :lol:


Chip is everywhere and nowhere, sort like a ninja with a smart mouth that doesn't know when to shut up. :ninja:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

SavantStrike
06-28-2009, 10:06 AM
Please don't be embarrased or ashamed at my suggestion that I'm all for inclusion of any person interested in B&B. I simply pointed out that if there was such a great demand for a female subforum, we would have the sheer number of female members who utilize our community. The fact is that we do not. Is that a good thing? A bad thing? It is simply the truth. Oh and I love, adore, and respect women....

No one was accusing anyone of anything... yet :biggrin:

I can understand where you are coming from. You feel that at the current female membership rate, while there are some women on the forum, there aren't enough to necessarily warrant a new subforum. This coupled with the fact that B&B welcomes everyone would indicate that women could just keep posting in the sections we already have. I agree that in theory it should be that way, but I think we might actually attract new female members if we add a women's section.

Lets face it, while the management has a strict everyone is welcome (except troublemakers) policy, and most of the members welcome women posters, there are some who probably still get freaked out about it. There is also a very male oriented feel to most of the forum because well, we're mostly men. Discussions about shaving technique etc are mostly geared towards fellow men. A women's section might give the ladies that are here a nice area in B&B where there is a female oriented feel and a chance to connect with their fellow women. It would probably also attract new women to the hobby as it's a place where the ladies can go to talk about lady oriented shaving needs.

I'm for it, I say it would help grow the membership further. It won't detract from the other areas of the forum either. Win win. If there were a vote for a women's section I would vote for it.

I am strictly against discussions about shaving down under. Now before the Aussies start ragging on me I'm talking about the below the belt shaving. It's disturbing, and it starts to get into a grey area. The SRP threads about down under shaving would most likely have been edited or locked if they had happened here on B&B. "I nicked my ...." Yeah. It might be amusing if it's not in mixed company, but women won't appreciate locker room talk, nor would an employer so NSFW.

Sue
06-28-2009, 10:08 AM
Interesting post!
IMHO, one of the things i like about this forum is that it is a place for men to discuss man stuff. I say no to a womans forum here. My opinion.

C

Would adding a womens section change your opinion of B&B? If so, can I ask why?
Sue

fatpanda
06-28-2009, 10:41 AM
I am a newer member here, but I feel that it may be ok to make a comment since I read and enjoy this site very much and I have some experience with gender issues from my life experience... My wife is a soccer player, and she does not play in a Women's league. She plays with me and with my guy friends because she prefers it that way. The other fact about my wife is that she is from Turkey. In Turkey, there is a very powerful separation of genders. This is strictly due to CULTURE! The men do men things like play backgammon and soccer and the women do women things! For example, women are blatantly insulted on front pages of Turkish newspapers if they play soccer! This does nothing but frustrate my wife, and the improved gender equality that exists in America is one of the reasons why she loves living in the states.

IMHO we gentlemen should be nothing short of being proud to include the interested ladies in our "manly" activities if they so desire. Why? Because we are better men than the other men in the rest of the world that exclude women. We are promoting equality and I stand for that. Albeit shaving, voting, driving, going to school, etc... Sorry if this seems like a rant, and I am not accusing anyone of excluding the ladies. Just my $0.02! Peace! :001_005:

Kratos
06-28-2009, 11:04 AM
I'm with Antique Hoosier on this. Without getting into specific details, men and women interact with each other differently. Ask anyone who's worked in an office of all-women, or all-men. The dynamics of men's and women's shaving are a bit different, but I think there's room for both here. If more women were that interested in talking about shaving, I say there'd be more here.
One thing I like about this site IS that it's mostly men, and I will explain. On say, a bodybuilding forum, of which I used to be a member, a woman could post pics, where it looked like she MAY have seen the inside of a gym at some point. Yet she will garner all kinds of kudos and praise. A guy could do the same, and get flamed to death. "WTF? Do u even know where the gym is?" "Dude, bench, squat, deadlift, take 2 Deca and call me in the morning." "Eat." I cannot stand that patronizing sort of crap directed at women. I believe in equal pay for equal work. I see it on lots of forums. Being friendly is one thing, but that's not what that is. I don't really see that here.
Also, there is not a bunch of flirty-type nonsense going on. My lady doesn't worry I'm gonna start getting PM's from some needy homewrecking type, which has happened to me before. Another reason I don't have pictures of myself on-line. Not saying all this would happen here if we added a women's area, but it would facilitate some. And it may just some of the forums I went to, from BB'ing, as I mentioned, to car forums. No one subject, just very mixed company.

Topgumby
06-28-2009, 11:19 AM
Bring on the women's forum!

It might make the place more welcoming to female lurkers, women have shaving issues distinctly different from men and it would be fun to peek in at what they are chatting about!

don.putnick
06-28-2009, 12:48 PM
Why not leave it to the women whether or not they want a separate forum? If they do, they deserve a top-level forum or a sub-forum under General, not under Newbie.

nodns
06-28-2009, 03:59 PM
As one of the few female sporatic posters that, you know, is out to make you some pretty soaps and the like (no offense to the women who are selling here), but I can say that I would not really bother much with a women's only forum here. If I was looking for that, I would find an existing one. Also, it seems that several of men here seem to think that us little girlies should take our pink frilly skirts and head back to our kitchens. You and you gentleman behavour can carp-in-a-can it. This site is not a men only forum and until the site owners decide it is, we are not going anywhere.

Sue
06-28-2009, 04:34 PM
Why not leave it to the women whether or not they want a separate forum? If they do, they deserve a top-level forum or a sub-forum under General, not under Newbie.


I think that's a good idea so I'll cast my vote now: No, I do not think it is necessary.

There is nothing that I would post in a 'Women Only' separate forum that I wouldn't post in any of the existing threads. If there isn't an appropriate thread, I'll start one.

If there is a women only forum, who is going to moderate it? A woman? Which one of the current moderators want that J.O.B.? To be that separated, which of the male mods wants to deem a female topic inappropriate to other women?

If there is a womens only forum, would we still be allowed to post in the "men's" threads? I think it's devisive. How about an under 25 forum or an over 40 forum? Married w/kids, divorced w/kids, single....The diversity of this forum as a whole offers a vast range of insight by not segmenting into groups.

That's my opinion. Of course I may exercise my female perogative and change my mind :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: Just kidding, I won't.
Sue

ouch
06-28-2009, 04:36 PM
I thought I had this all covered with this post-

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showpost.php?p=594274&postcount=41

:tongue_sm

Sue
06-28-2009, 04:44 PM
I thought I had this all covered with this post-

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showpost.php?p=594274&postcount=41

:tongue_sm



:a21: Good Point! Sue

deathspared
06-28-2009, 04:59 PM
I will add my vote for a sub forum for women. I have been trying to find info on women's shaving and guessing terms in the search function like women, ladies, and girls is silly. There should be a sub forum that would have all this in one place to discuss.:smile:

Sue
06-28-2009, 05:03 PM
As one of the few female sporatic posters that, you know, is out to make you some pretty soaps and the like (no offense to the women who are selling here), but I can say that I would not really bother much with a women's only forum here. If I was looking for that, I would find an existing one. Also, it seems that several of men here seem to think that us little girlies should take our pink frilly skirts and head back to our kitchens. You and you gentleman behavour can carp-in-a-can it. This site is not a men only forum and until the site owners decide it is, we are not going anywhere.


Why would making soap be offensive? There are several soapers here; some that sell and some for their own personal use or both.

I also do not get a feeling of hostility to discuss the possiblity of adding a womens section. This is just an idea that's being tossed around. I don't think anyone has voiced hostility toward women.
Sue

gollum83
06-28-2009, 05:44 PM
I thought I had this all covered with this post-

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showpost.php?p=594274&postcount=41

:tongue_sm

Wow, I got married? When? Where? Why? I have no recollection and no wife either! Am I going insane or is Ouch losing his touch? :eek2:

nodns
06-28-2009, 06:00 PM
Wow, I got married? When? Where? Why? I have no recollection and no wife either! Am I going insane or is Ouch losing his touch? :eek2:

To quote one of the "Mrs." in Ouch post...have you checked under the sink???

DGuterman
06-28-2009, 07:18 PM
Everyone's so interested about question 2, I was also curious about question 1 though, where do the ladies stand? For or against? Are they the type to stop you from buying that mid 1900's classic, or are they floating on ebay to find one to surprise you with?




1) Are your ladies into the experience of proper shaving?
2) Would they venture out to the B&B if there was a forum for them?

joel
06-28-2009, 11:41 PM
Alright, here is comes. Read the whole post please, before the heart attacks and angry quips come hither....

B&B, as it says on the homepage to new visitors (log out and you'll see a welcoming message/mission statement) and as we've always intended, is a gentleman's forum... period. Now, don't get ahead of me... women ARE welcomed and encouraged, but again... this is a gentleman's forum.

Call it unfair or call it sexist - and you're plumb missing the entire point of B&B. That would be like calling Victoria's Secret sexist for not selling Manties and catering to men, or that MenEssentials is sexist or unbiased for not selling products designed for women too. There are countless places on the internet designed for women... and countless designed for men. This particular site's primary auspice is to assist men in the chore of shaving their face. Frankly, there really aren't many places online where a man can unapologetically be a man - which is where B&B comes in as a safe haven.

Women are entirely welcome here... but the mood/atmosphere is designed to allow fellas to kick back, step outside their everyday lives, and have an "old tyme barbershop" experience. If a hand happens to be resting in the pants a la Al Bundy, or a belch slips out without an "excuse me" - well... all the merrier. Adding a specific forum here as a "women's only" section, or a "women's section" doesn't mesh with the intent of this community. We're not trying to be everything to everyone... we're trying to be THE best in this one, specific area. Our intent is not to appeal to the largest audience, or to "be the largest" - we don't have a retail store whereby we're trying to drum up as much business as possible, or even try to make everyone happy.

What we do however do, is try to create an environment where gentlemen can kick up their feet and relax with some of the nicest, most gentlemanly folks on the internet. Yes, there are wonderful women here, who are an integral and are a greatly welcomed (and appreciated) part of our community and we would never NOT want to make them feel welcomed, however our intent is NOT to attract throngs of women in a "women only" section of B&B. Shaving your face - despite what some have said - isn't a whole lot different than shaving legs. I taught my wife with the same principles is no time flat, and i've taught and coached several other women through shaving with a brush and DE via B&B.

If women wish to participate, they're more than welcomed and encouraged to do so, however everyone here is equal... no special treatment for biology. If women wish to participate, do so in the appropriate forums - and don't be shy... the fellas here certainly aren't.

Frankly - the type of women who tend to do well here and really enjoy this community, are the type of women who don't get all caught up in needing a special forum or feel like they are or aren't being treated special... they're the type who like to come on in, kick their feet up - and enjoy the fine company of world class gentlemen. Key example, is our own Sue from SCS. She's here because she has made friends here, is interested in engaging in intelligent discussion and has a ton of fun. Does she sell soap? Yeah. Does she hawk it, or generate sales with her posts? No... she's here to have fun and spend time with folks who truly care about her.

Just like I wouldn't feel comfortable going to my wife's froofy hair salon - and dishing with the girls... some are never going to feel comfortable here - but unfortunately, that's the name of the game when shooting for this type of community/experience. Just because I am uncomfortable at my wife's hair salon, doesn't mean they wouldn't welcome me with open arms - be nice as all heck, and try to fill me up with candy for being a good sport (ok - ok, I went once). It's me being uncomfortable in that situation... not them doing anything nefarious.

My wife on the other hand, all 5 feet 90lbs of her - has no problem going to the gun shop with me (in fact loves it) and chatting with "the boys" who are about as crusty and salty as a triple baked pretzel.

The jiist is - sure, there are some women (less that 1&#37; of our members) who may feel like they're not welcome... and to them, i'd say i'm sorry they feel that way - but we're not wallpapering over the teak walls, snuffing out the cigars, putting the spitoons in the closet and pouring the booze down the sink, this is who we are. If you can jump in and hang out with the boys, you'll be welcomed by ALL with open arms (if not, lemme know and i'll adorn my butt kicking boots) learn and share friendly info and likely have the time of your life. If you're overly sensitive, feel like you're being discriminated against or feel entitled to special treatment... then likely, you don't feel comfortable here, as this isn't a good fit for you.

Hope this clears things up a bit...

ambrose
06-29-2009, 03:17 AM
That makes perfect sense and I agree, but one question. Where can I get some manties? :rolleyes:

SRock
06-29-2009, 03:27 AM
That makes perfect sense and I agree, but one question. Where can I get some manties? :rolleyes:

Match + fuel = :spockflam

J/K Brother.
:lol::lol::lol:

ambrose
06-29-2009, 03:54 AM
haha I thought it would be funny :biggrin:

SRock
06-29-2009, 03:58 AM
haha I thought it would be funny :biggrin:

It was. And I'm sure you have nothing to worry about even Joel has a sense of humor.

gone down south
06-29-2009, 04:43 AM
My only question is what would you discuss in a separate women's forum that doesn't fall under one of the existing categories?

Kratos
06-29-2009, 06:35 AM
My only question is what would you discuss in a separate women's forum that doesn't fall under one of the existing categories?

Exactly. Joel is top-dead-center. My nest response would have been very similar. As I said, I like this place for the very reason that there are a whole Hell of a lot of fine fellows, and we can be men. As much as I love being around women, I like to get away from them now and again. I have not seen anybody take a sorry tone with any women here. They are plenty welcome here, without the division of a separate forum.

rabidpotatochip
06-29-2009, 06:57 AM
It was. And I'm sure you have nothing to worry about even Joel has a sense of humor.

I've been here a long time and have yet to see proof of that. :tongue:

RichGem
06-29-2009, 07:23 AM
I've been here for peons and peons and have yet to see proof of that. :tongue:

:biggrin:

gollum83
06-29-2009, 07:28 AM
:biggrin:

Much better! :a14:

rabidpotatochip
06-29-2009, 07:32 AM
As one of the few female sporatic posters that, you know, is out to make you some pretty soaps and the like (no offense to the women who are selling here), but I can say that I would not really bother much with a women's only forum here. If I was looking for that, I would find an existing one. Also, it seems that several of men here seem to think that us little girlies should take our pink frilly skirts and head back to our kitchens. You and you gentleman behavour can carp-in-a-can it. This site is not a men only forum and until the site owners decide it is, we are not going anywhere.

Having said all the serious things I can say in this thread, I now submit the following: I would love to see Mrs. Chip in a pink frilly skirt in the kitchen*. :ihih:

*I find her both attractive and an excellent cook.

RichGem
06-29-2009, 07:35 AM
Having said all the serious things I can say in this thread, I now submit the following: I would love to see Mrs. Chip in a pink frilly skirt in the kitchen*. :ihih:

*I find her both attractive and an excellent cook.

She does make excellent cookies. :drool: So, if that's any indication.....

rabidpotatochip
06-29-2009, 07:39 AM
She does make excellent cookies. :drool: So, if that's any indication.....

I gained 5lb the last time she made cookies... :lol:

Doc4
06-29-2009, 03:45 PM
It was. And I'm sure you have nothing to worry about even Joel has a sense of humor.


I've been here a long time and have yet to see proof of that. :tongue:

... the fact that you're still here after such a long time = Joel's sense of humour. :001_tt2:

nodns
06-29-2009, 08:01 PM
Having said all the serious things I can say in this thread, I now submit the following: I would love to see Mrs. Chip in a pink frilly skirt in the kitchen*. :ihih:

*I find her both attractive and an excellent cook.

No one irl wants to see that from me. First, I am not 'girlie' like that, so you'd know I lost one hell of a bet. Second, I cannot cook a microwave meal without setting off the smoke alarm. My cooking may send you to the ER :eek:. Luck for me my husband is an excellent cook. In trade, I clean up, well, for the most part :wink:.

Mrs. Chip
06-30-2009, 05:40 AM
Having said all the serious things I can say in this thread, I now submit the following: I would love to see Mrs. Chip in a pink frilly skirt in the kitchen*. :ihih:

*I find her both attractive and an excellent cook.

You forgot to mention that I can change shower heads and faucets too.:001_tt2:

SRock
06-30-2009, 05:42 AM
You forgot to mention that I can change shower heads and faucets too.:001_tt2:

She's a keeper! Go Chip!

rabidpotatochip
07-01-2009, 06:04 PM
... the fact that you're still here after such a long time = Joel's sense of humour. :001_tt2:

Or he's just punishing you. :lol:


You forgot to mention that I can change shower heads and faucets too.:001_tt2:

Sorry. :blushing:


She's a keeper! Go Chip!

I know. :biggrin:

thirdeye
07-01-2009, 07:11 PM
You forgot to mention that I can change shower heads and faucets too.:001_tt2:

You go girl.....:biggrin:

blackfoot
07-05-2009, 05:04 PM
You forgot to mention that I can change shower heads and faucets too.:001_tt2:

One time I was working on something and asked for a very specific tool. My friend started making fun of me saying, "Like anyone really knows what that is. I don't even believe it's real." He didn't get any further than this because my wife was handing it to me. :lol: I love to see a woman put a loud-mouthed, self-absorbed jerk in his place. As long as it isn't me. :frown:

Back on topic, I like the women to be in the midst of us guys. If for no other reason, my wife won't join and I like getting the advice of our sisters-in-lather to help her.

Mrs. Chip
07-06-2009, 12:09 AM
You go girl.....:biggrin:

It's nice to know how to do 'man' jobs to get things done but playing the damsel in distress sometimes gets things done too.:001_smile

SRock
07-06-2009, 04:12 AM
It's nice to know how to do 'man' jobs to get things done but playing the damsel in distress sometimes gets things done too.:001_smile

You sound like my wife. She's an expert shooter with handguns, rifles and even shotguns. She knows her way around the tool shed but she'd definitely mastered the damsel in distress bit! :lol::lol:

RichGem
07-06-2009, 04:25 AM
You sound like my wife. She's an expert shooter with handguns, rifles and even shotguns. She knows her way around the tool shed but she'd definitely mastered the damsel in distress bit! :lol::lol:

So... what does she need you for? :biggrin:

SRock
07-06-2009, 04:41 AM
So... what does she need you for? :biggrin:

Who do you think taught her to shoot or repair things? :biggrin:

nodns
07-10-2009, 08:34 PM
Who do you think taught her to shoot or repair things? :biggrin:

Probably the same person that taught me how to do those things. Mom!

BTW, nothing beats the "but I have boobs" discount on all things hardware/car/computer.

SRock
07-11-2009, 04:48 AM
Probably the same person that taught me how to do those things. Mom!

BTW, nothing beats the "but I have boobs" discount on all things hardware/car/computer.

Not a chance, I'm not sure her Mom would know the difference between a hammer and a screw driver, :lol:!

Stubblefield
07-12-2009, 06:48 AM
I thought I had this all covered with this post-

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showpost.php?p=594274&postcount=41

:tongue_smUtterly hilarious! (and spot on)


That makes perfect sense and I agree, but one question. Where can I get some manties? :rolleyes:You should post this question in the Manties sub-forum.

Austin
07-12-2009, 07:31 AM
My son's wife is rated expert on firearms. She's a gunner on a Humvee. :eek:

Kratos
07-12-2009, 12:58 PM
Probably the same person that taught me how to do those things. Mom!

BTW, nothing beats the "but I have boobs" discount on all things hardware/car/computer.

Hah! Most guys are such suckers. Lots of women try that to get out of tickets, or DWI's.

blackfoot
07-12-2009, 08:15 PM
Hah! Most guys are such suckers. Lots of women try that to get out of tickets, or DWI's.

When we were dating, my wife had the opposite problem. She went to a tire chain store for a quote. A friend of ours thought that the price didn't sound right so he called for the exact same quote and got one much, much lower. He then confronted them about it. They gave her the lower price, obviously. The next day, she received a huge flower arrangement from corporate with an apology.

The thing I thought was funny was, they were trying to avoid a lawsuit. Yet, the flowers and apology were an omission of guilt.

FLTiger
07-12-2009, 08:53 PM
Hah! Most guys are such suckers. Lots of women try that to get out of tickets, or DWI's.

I know a woman who once passed on the right shoulder a police car that was in traffic on a two-lane road and still managed to talk her way out of the ticket. :rolleyes:

blackfoot
07-12-2009, 09:10 PM
I know a woman who once passed on the right shoulder a police car that was in traffic on a two-lane road and still managed to talk her way out of the ticket. :rolleyes:

My wife has a friend who is very, very hot. Funny, she has only ever gotten one ticket in her life. Some of you will understand when I say she got it Ohio by a state trooper.

Sue
07-12-2009, 10:04 PM
Reminds me of something that happened a number of years ago. My husband was building both a workbench in the garage and a re-loading table in the basement. He bought the lumber at Home Depot.

He had asked for the lumber to be cut and was told no, they didn't do that. About a week earlier, I had bought a PVC downspout at Home Depot and asked to have it cut in sections for cold process soap molds. I brought home sections.

Almost done with the work benches, he had miscalculated and needed a couple more 2x6"s and I offered to get them for him. As I was leaving he reminded me that if I put the back seat down and put them thru the trunk and over the center console to sit on the dash, they wouldn't hang out of the trunk.

I told him I'd just have them cut so they would go in the trunk, he said don't waste your time, they won't cut lumber.

You know the rest of the story. He just shook his head and muttered something I can't repeat here.
Sue

blackfoot
07-12-2009, 10:16 PM
Reminds me of something that happened a number of years ago. My husband was building both a workbench in the garage and a re-loading table in the basement. He bought the lumber at Home Depot.

He had asked for the lumber to be cut and was told no, they didn't do that. About a week earlier, I had bought a PVC downspout at Home Depot and asked to have it cut in sections for cold process soap molds. I brought home sections.

Almost done with the work benches, he had miscalculated and needed a couple more 2x6"s and I offered to get them for him. As I was leaving he reminded me that if I put the back seat down and put them thru the trunk and over the center console to sit on the dash, they wouldn't hang out of the trunk.

I told him I'd just have them cut so they would go in the trunk, he said don't waste your time, they won't cut lumber.

You know the rest of the story. He just shook his head and muttered something I can't repeat here.
Sue

:lol::lol::lol:

From now on, I am sending my wife for materials.

Sue
07-12-2009, 10:29 PM
:lol::lol::lol:

From now on, I am sending my wife for materials.

Works on cars too . We had an old car that still ran very well and went to a lot that paid cash for used cars. Needless to say, we left without any cash.

A couple weeks later Wendy and I went to the same lot and brought back a check, he didn't even test drive it. :rolleyes:
Sue

SRock
07-13-2009, 04:38 AM
My son's wife is rated expert on firearms. She's a gunner on a Humvee. :eek:

Awesome! I've certified many ladies as expert on various firearms. I've seen women who would give trained snipers a run for their money!

Kratos
07-13-2009, 09:07 AM
Like the first line of my post said, most guys are suckers. I don't play to that crap. It's not really fair if I let some hottie off when I'd break a ticket off in anyone else. You're not going to get anything out of letting a girl use you like that, and in my line of work it can lead to LOTS of trouble. And it reinforces stereotypes, and the hot girl's outlook that she can get whatever she wants by batting her eyes and crossing her arms while leaning forward.
I don't mind playing the knight to my damsel in distress, shoot, it's my business to deal with distress. However, I do appreciate a woman I can respect and can take care of herself. Sounds like a lot of you lucky bastids have that goin' on already!

Speedwell68
07-03-2010, 03:17 PM
My wife is taking to DE shaving. I have gifted her the Wilkinson Sword Classic I first tried DE shaving on. Well now I am about to buy her a Mekur 40c in red, the one with the ergonomic grip handle and a matching brush.

Anyway, she said she would like to see a forum on B&B dedicated to Ladies shaving. So would it be possible?

Thanks.

W_B_K
07-03-2010, 05:45 PM
Check out the social groups. I believe there is a lady's group in there :thumbup1:

Luc
07-03-2010, 05:58 PM
There is a social group yes: http://badgerandblade.com/vb/group.php?groupid=88

However, a section might be good... Sub forum to General Shaving maybe...

blackfoot
07-03-2010, 06:04 PM
There is a social group yes: http://badgerandblade.com/vb/group.php?groupid=88

However, a section might be good... Sub forum to General Shaving maybe...

This has been brought up a few times in the past. I believe it was decided to be an idea B&B did not want to pursue. I don't remember aall of the reasoning now, but I can try to find it later.

DavyRay
07-03-2010, 06:05 PM
No.

I will not elaborate, but, no.

Luc
07-03-2010, 06:16 PM
This has been brought up a few times in the past. I believe it was decided to be an idea B&B did not want to pursue. I don't remember aall of the reasoning now, but I can try to find it later.

I missed that thread but all right... When you think about it, the social group is good and then, shaving hair is shaving hair, face or legs, it's hair!

blackfoot
07-03-2010, 06:45 PM
I missed that thread but all right... When you think about it, the social group is good and then, shaving hair is shaving hair, face or legs, it's hair!

Yeah, and I think it was because of exclusion, IIRC. I think the social group is great though. I told Mrs. Blackfoot she need to join so she could join the social group.

Uncle Erik
07-03-2010, 10:56 PM
Oh no... AD X2! :biggrin:

At least you won't have to make excuses for your purchases any longer.

Luc
07-03-2010, 11:15 PM
Yeah, and I think it was because of exclusion, IIRC. I think the social group is great though. I told Mrs. Blackfoot she need to join so she could join the social group.

That's good yes!


Oh no... AD X2! :biggrin:

At least you won't have to make excuses for your purchases any longer.

:lol: Now that's funny...

I saw some shaving soap disappear from the den...

Speedwell68
07-04-2010, 06:04 AM
She has seen the Social Group, but to be fair you have to be a registered member and go delving to find that. She just thought that a forum on the main page would be better, a little more inviting and easier to find.

Barber-Eile
07-05-2010, 06:37 AM
She has seen the Social Group, but to be fair you have to be a registered member and go delving to find that. She just thought that a forum on the main page would be better, a little more inviting and easier to find.

I'm a lady on here and I have to say that the guys on here (99.999&#37; of them anyway) are hugely welcoming and don't mind me posting in the normal forums on here. Even if I ask a more lady-specific question I find that the shaving knowledge they have in general helps them to find an answer for me.

I also love the Women Shavers group. It's more niche and out of the way it's true, but it's nice to go there and chat amongst ourselves without worrying about ruffling any feathers or making men squirm with overly feminine talk.

Unfortunatly the Women Shavers group is member-only, but there is a Leg Shaving page of the Wiki with information on it and it also has links to threads in the main forum discussing leg shaving etc. Also the Women Shavers group is now a "closed" group which means membership needs to be approved (which, if you are a woman, or a man with genuine reason for joining, it will be no problem). This became necessary only recently and was not an easy decision to make.

I think leaving the main forum as an all inclusive place regardless of sex, age, etc. is the best way to have things. The social groups allow for enough sub-sectioning in my opinion.

blackfoot
07-05-2010, 06:50 AM
I'm a lady on here and I have to say that the guys on here (99.999% of them anyway) are hugely welcoming and don't mind me posting in the normal forums on here. Or even if I ask a more lady-specific question I find that the shaving knowledge they have in general helps them to find an answer for me.

I also love the Women Shavers group. It's more niche and out of the way it's true but it's nice to go there and chat amongst ourselves without worrying about ruffling any feathers or making men squirm with overly feminine talk.

Unfortunatly the Women Shavers group is member-only but there is a Leg Shaving page of the Wiki with information on it and it also had links to threads in the main forum discussing leg shaving etc. Also to Women Shavers group is now a "closed" group which means membership needs to be approved (which, if you are a woman, or a man with genuine reason for joining, it will be no problem). This became necessary only recently and was not an easy decision to make.

I think leaving the main forum as an all inclusive place regardless of sex, age, etc. is the best way to have things. The social groups allow for enough sub-sectioning in my opinion.

Very well said. :thumbup1:

Swampfox
07-10-2010, 05:30 AM
Girls wanna break into our club house?! :blink:

blackfoot
07-10-2010, 05:32 AM
Girls wanna break into our club house?! :blink:

:yesnod: :thumbup:

Swampfox
07-10-2010, 05:33 AM
:yesnod: :thumbup:

Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnn! !!!!


Oh, wait, wrong thread for that response.

Deborah
09-24-2010, 09:46 AM
I'm still kind of new to DE shaving, my AD is growing :w00t: and I love B&B!

But, with that said, I wonder if the mods might consider giving us ladies some different nicknames than those of the men? I think the nicknames are really funny, but it's really weird to see a lady's profile with the nickname "Bigelow Boy" or Whisker Whacker". :lol: That is, if it's even possible for the program used here at B&B to distinguish between the males and females and assign the nicknames accordingly.

I think it would be great to have the ladies come up with some suggestions for the nicknames if it were possible. Just saying! :001_smile

Granaura
09-24-2010, 09:55 AM
Heh heh!!!

Now you have done it!!! You can't give the gents here an opportunity to make up funny lady titles!

I will begin!

- Bushwacker
- Lady Gillette
- Noxema Nanny
- Knee stubble Nixer
- Bikini line groomer

MoreSaltThanPepper
09-24-2010, 09:57 AM
Sure it's a man's world.

And I have the lady's permission to say so . . .

Edit: Ok, here's a couple
DEinPink
StraightFemale :wink2:

doublediamond
09-24-2010, 09:59 AM
Well, I'm not a mod nor a lady, but I do have some ideas, if I may!

Latherin' Lady
DE Diva
Someone's SWMBO

Deborah
09-24-2010, 10:07 AM
Now that's what I'm talking about!!! :lol::lol: I love it!

Those are amazing,someone let the mods know!

Here's another question....why is the lady's forum not on the main page? How do I find it?

jfreaksho
09-24-2010, 10:09 AM
Eversmooth Empress
Bladed Beauty
DE Duchess/Debutante

RichGem
09-24-2010, 10:10 AM
Lol No bearded lady?:biggrin1:

We used to have one of those too. "Madame Scaldioni" (or something like that), but then she ran afoul of the mods and either left or was asked to leave.

RichGem
09-24-2010, 10:11 AM
I'll contribute:

Lady Luxe

and

Leg Shaver Extraordinaire

(oh, and how about "Bigelow Betty"?)

ackvil
09-24-2010, 10:39 AM
Oh, Deborah you know not what you have wrought. Now be prepared for 300 women nicknames. :w00t:

I believe what you are looking for can be found in the community part of the site under "Women Shavers."

RichGem
09-24-2010, 10:41 AM
"Well, aren't I a Nancy Girl."

kg4ghn
09-24-2010, 10:45 AM
The Women Shavers is a social group under community at the top. You have to be here for 45 days and have 50 posts before you can join though.

doublediamond
09-24-2010, 10:46 AM
Thought of another:

Proraso Princess

DFrancis
09-24-2010, 10:50 AM
leg latherer
Ms. Taylor
I can see it now, there are now going to be feminine tags randomly strewn in.

RichGem
09-24-2010, 10:51 AM
"Daisy Duke of Wet Shaving"

Deborah
09-24-2010, 11:49 AM
Wow! These just keep getting better and better! Seriously, who are the mods and how do we get them to read this!? Awesome!

You guys crack me up!

RichGem
09-24-2010, 11:50 AM
Wow! These just keep getting better and better! Seriously, who are the mods and how do we get them to read this!? Awesome!

You guys crack me up!

The mods see all and hear all (unless they're off shaving).

Deborah
09-24-2010, 11:51 AM
Oh, Deborah you know not what you have wrought. Now be prepared for 300 women nicknames. :w00t:

I believe what you are looking for can be found in the community part of the site under "Women Shavers."

I hope we really do get a lot of nicknames here! It would be so cool. Thanks for the info on the women shavers!

Crixus
09-24-2010, 12:12 PM
Katy Krona
I shave at the "Y"
DE Damsel
Feather Filly

Telecaster52
09-24-2010, 01:00 PM
DE Diva


That one would be workable into the usual title rotation :lol:

Granaura
09-25-2010, 05:54 AM
I shave at the "Y"


HEEE!! :lol:

_JP_
09-25-2010, 08:28 PM
Smooth as silk

Slippery when wet

Brush stroked

Diva DeLegs

Straight leg shaver

Granaura
09-26-2010, 09:47 AM
"I'm fully shaved"
:001_wub:

Topgumby
09-26-2010, 10:37 AM
"Make all the cute titles you want, but when it comes down to it you know who is the gatekeeper of the funds for your crazy den and pretty much everything else you want in your pathetic little life!"

It's a little long for a title, but my wife likes it.

RichGem
09-26-2010, 10:39 AM
"Make all the cute titles you want, but when it comes down to it you know who is the gatekeeper of the funds for your crazy den and pretty much everything else you want in your pathetic little life!"

It's a little long for a title, but my wife likes it.


Huh. Funny; Mrs. TG sounds a lot like the Gunny. :confused:

:laugh:

Mr. Scruffy
09-26-2010, 12:18 PM
Debbie Derby
Valobra Vixen
Sister Simpson
Kiss My Face Kate
Wendy o' Williams
Three Passes of Eve
Lady Lavender

Crixus
09-26-2010, 12:35 PM
Three Passes of Eve
:thumbup1:
Of course, we're showing our age, Scruff.

Topgumby
09-26-2010, 12:37 PM
Debbie Derby
Wendy o' Williams


I have never made the connection to the soap and the Plasmatics.

You sir, are a man of rare insight.

Granaura
09-26-2010, 03:21 PM
Personna Platinum Princess
A Derby Delight
Debbie who does Derby!!! :w00t:

Crixus
09-26-2010, 03:49 PM
Treet Me Right
They Were Pulling My Leg
That Last Place Was The Pits
The Crystal Calf

mdevine
09-26-2010, 04:01 PM
Wicked Witch Hazel of the West
Weishi Shavin' That?

Elmfuzz
09-26-2010, 06:34 PM
Merkur Madam

That's all i've got.

luvmysuper
09-26-2010, 06:40 PM
Is "?????? shearing badger lover" too much? :ohmy:



Yes.
Yes it is.

Context is everything my friend!!

Crixus
09-26-2010, 06:42 PM
Merkur Madam

That's all i've got.I'll bet it's a winner, though.:thumbup:

Elmfuzz
09-26-2010, 06:54 PM
I'll bet it's a winner, though.:thumbup:
Heh, thanks. 20 minutes later i get a few.

DEborah
Gillette Swedish au pair.
Bleue rinse

doublediamond
09-26-2010, 09:56 PM
SuperSpeed SuperWoman
I like to call mine a fatgirl

luvmysuper
09-27-2010, 05:10 AM
Last warning to keep your posts clean enough that you'd let a child or your mom read them or this is going bye-bye.

Barber-Eile
09-27-2010, 11:26 AM
Hee heee... I like these - they're great.
I'm not sure on if the mods could feasibly apply gender-specific titles but I'm enjoying reading the ideas none the less.
I tend to just ignore the more male-orientated titles anyway - its all a bit of fun :001_smile

Hmm okay so let me think of some:

Double-Edged Dame
Stubble-Free Stunner
Silky SWMBO
Wet Shavin' Wendy
Gemocratic Gal
Lather 'n' Lace


I'm sure I'll think of more later.

Barber-Eile
09-27-2010, 11:30 AM
Here's another question....why is the lady's forum not on the main page? How do I find it?

Also as someone already mentioned it's not a forum in itself per ce but a social group.
We like to keep the main forum welcome to everyone so the social groups are for more niche groupings such as by country or razor preference etc. So the ladies group is one of those.

blackfoot
09-27-2010, 05:30 PM
This is great!

rlandrews3rd
09-27-2010, 06:49 PM
Badger Babe:001_tt1:

Doc4
09-28-2010, 06:51 PM
I'm not sure on if the mods could feasibly apply gender-specific titles but ...

Short answer, 'no'.

Long answer: unfortunately, there is no realistic way for us to manage two sets of gender-specific titles. The Computer doesn't recognise the girls from the boys; we're all just 'members' who get bumped from one title to the next as our post counts go up.

So you won't have the title of Nair-do-well any time soon. :tongue_sm

ouch
09-28-2010, 06:53 PM
Ian, you just wrote that entire post so you could slip in that nair-do-well pun.

Pretty cool. :thumbup1:

Granaura
09-28-2010, 07:10 PM
Then again, a silver level or higher contribution can make you any custom title you want!!

You can even be Stan-the-Man! :thumbup:

_JP_
09-28-2010, 09:24 PM
Then again, a silver level or higher contribution can make you any custom title you want!!

You can even be Stan-the-Man! :thumbup:

Didn't you mean "Stan-the-Ma'am?

Crixus
09-28-2010, 09:37 PM
Didn't you mean "Stan-the-Ma'am?Too bad they can't use that. It would be perfect.

Deborah
09-29-2010, 12:47 PM
Short answer, 'no'.

Long answer: unfortunately, there is no realistic way for us to manage two sets of gender-specific titles. The Computer doesn't recognise the girls from the boys; we're all just 'members' who get bumped from one title to the next as our post counts go up.

So you won't have the title of Nair-do-well any time soon. :tongue_sm

Bummer! Oh well....it was fun reading everyone's ideas anyway. :thumbup1:
Maybe one day technology will catch up with our wants. Thanks for letting us know.

blackfoot
09-29-2010, 03:15 PM
Bummer! Oh well....it was fun reading everyone's ideas anyway. :thumbup1:
Maybe one day technology will catch up with our wants. Thanks for letting us know.

Doesn't mean we have to stop coming up with ideas. This was a fun read as long as we kept it in line. :thumbup1:

ouch
09-29-2010, 06:01 PM
There's always the option of saying something really stupid..........

Granaura
09-29-2010, 06:43 PM
There's always the option of saying something really stupid..........

Been there.. done that.. :bored:

Sadly, you can delete your own post, but you can never delete the memory.. nor the quoted version of your post...
:blush::blush::blush::blush::blush::blush::blush:
:biggrin1:

ouch
09-29-2010, 06:46 PM
You can always supplant it.

shavervinnie
09-29-2010, 07:03 PM
"Barbicide Barbie"
"I used more of my husband's product.....and it worked!"
"Proraso Princess"

RichGem
09-29-2010, 07:05 PM
Didn't you mean "Stan-the-Ma'am?

:lol:

Stubblefield
09-29-2010, 07:31 PM
That is, if it's even possible for the program used here at B&B to distinguish between the males and females and assign the nicknames accordingly.Pictures would help. :laugh:


Oh, Deborah you know not what you have wrought. Now be prepared for 300 women nicknames. :w00t:

299 of which I'm sure I will qualify for. :w00t:



Maybe one day technology will catch up with our wants. I thought the TV remote control was evidence of this.

blackfoot
09-30-2010, 10:16 AM
There's always the option of saying something really stupid..........

:whistling:

Barber-Eile
09-30-2010, 10:57 AM
There's always the option of saying something really stupid..........

Like "I love you"?
Awww Ouch - I never even knew you cared!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gXpHfwYFok

blackfoot
09-30-2010, 11:03 AM
Like "I love you"?
Awww Ouch - I never even knew you cared!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gXpHfwYFok

:lol: :thumbup:

Deborah
10-01-2010, 04:48 PM
Just wanted to say that B&B has the most imaginative members! :thumbup:
This really got a lot more responses than I thought it would.

Mama Bear
10-01-2010, 10:54 PM
OMG! What a GREAT thread!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

_JP_
10-02-2010, 06:47 AM
OMG! What a GREAT thread!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Bearly shaven.

Doc4
10-05-2010, 03:10 PM
There's always the option of saying something really stupid..........


Like "I love you"?
Awww Ouch - I never even knew you cared!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gXpHfwYFok

Score one for B-E! :lol:

The Count of Merkur Cristo
07-26-2011, 10:20 AM
With all the Ladies here with us...I was wondering and had to ask myself...why we don't have a Ladies Subforum? http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-merv/thinking.gif

Last week, I was reading member Dent's post, "First time with DE (on the legs!)", and
I was greatly intrigued by her comment in her post;

"For parting words, I'd like to chime in on the suggestion of creating a ladies' subforum. There really is just too little information out there on how women can get a proper shave for their legs. Most of the info I have found comes from commercial sources looking to market their latest shaving gadget, gel or cream for women. We need real solid research, not myth and speculation"!

So, I put this question..."Would You Like To See a Ladies Subforum Created?" in the form of a Poll and kindly as of you to 'chime-in' with your constructive (and unbiased), thoughts, ideas, comments ect...and then maybe with enough support from the Forum, our Mods will get together and create it....with the ShaveWiki on Leg Shaving becoming a 'Sticky'. :yesnod:

Christopher :straight: "Laughter is the [shaving] brush that sweeps away the cobwebs of your heart." Mort Walker

inspiringK
07-26-2011, 10:49 AM
A few months ago, this was a topic that turned into a long active thread. Some said yes, others said that there was no use.

Personally, I feel that if there are active members here who are interested in a new subforum because they don't feel that they currently have a platform for certain topics in other parts of B&B, we may as well try it. If it turns out that there simply isn't enough demand for that subforum to stay afloat, then it could be closed down at a later time. But, at least giving it a shot will allow an opportunity to see if it works.

So, my vote is clearly yes, I don't see any harm coming from trying it out - only harm coming from not giving it a shot (like they find a different site to discuss leg shaving etc. in).

luvmysuper
07-26-2011, 11:08 AM
Out of curiosity, why can't leg shaving be discussed in General Shaving?

luvmysuper
07-26-2011, 11:22 AM
So you are suggesting that the Ladies Social Group be disbanded, and in its place there be a Womens Subforum where all are free to contribute and read posts made about leg shaving etc??
How do the ladies feel about that?

If there is a need for more information about womens shaving issues, all that needs to be done is for the ladies to post that information in the General Shavuing forum, and it will be available.

I suspect that the information on womens shaving issues is not in the General Shaving forum because the ladies post all of their info in the Social Group they have.

Mr5x5
07-26-2011, 11:32 AM
No preference, whatever the ladies prefer.

Mr. Scruffy
07-26-2011, 11:44 AM
Out of curiosity, why can't leg shaving be discussed in General Shaving?

+1

M80
07-26-2011, 11:55 AM
There is no need for one.

General Shaving Discussion (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/forumdisplay.php/2-General-Shaving-Discussion)
Any shaving related talk that doesn't belong in the forums below goes here.

Face Shaving Discussion (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/forumdisplay.php/999-Face-Shaving-Discussion)
Invalid Forum specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator

JonM
07-26-2011, 12:10 PM
I say yes. It seems only logical to provide our female members an easier way to communicate on topics relevant to them (and to allow our male members to pick up & pass on some pointers for our own significant others). I know my wife has expressed an interest in DE shaving. A forum of their own may actually draw in new members.

luvmysuper
07-26-2011, 12:22 PM
I'd like to see how the ladies would feel about disbanding the Ladies Shaving Social Group and having all of their posts open for review and comment by the General Membership.

If there is a need for more Womens Shaving information, all the ladies have to do is post it.

scaevola
07-26-2011, 12:25 PM
I'd like to see how the ladies would feel about disbanding the Ladies Shaving Social Group and having all of their posts open for review and comment by the General Membership.

If there is a need for more Womens Shaving information, all the ladies have to do is post it.

No, I like the group and the privacy. I don't mind the mods strolling through, but I don't particularly care for the entire board to be able to look whenever they wish.

spindlecone
07-26-2011, 12:27 PM
Take a lesson from other shaving forums,Those forums rarely get used.
certain the ladys can post in any BB forums now,if they want to chat amoungst themselves,that what PMs are for.
A special forum would be a total waste of bandwidth.JMO

Snargle
07-26-2011, 12:34 PM
As luvmysuper pointed out, the ladies have their own private social group and they are free to participate in any other part of the site. Unless there's an overwhelming positive response from the ladies themselves, I'd say no...don't bother diluting the place with too many specialty forums.

Obiwan
07-26-2011, 12:37 PM
First I should state that I encourage and welcome women to wet shaving (I've been trying to convert my wife for over a year). That said, I'm not sure there would be the traffic to warrent a sub-forum. Take head shavers for a different example, there is a population of people who use DEs or straights for their heads. Posting appropriate questions, thoughts, feedback for the masses to weigh in seems to garnish more participation than it would in a sub-forum. I think the same logic appplies.

Go West Young Man
07-26-2011, 12:48 PM
What do ladies do differently than men? Unless you specified in a post that you were talking about shaving legs and not a face, no-one would know any different and the advice given would be exactly the same.

franz
07-26-2011, 01:02 PM
I get the sense that there is specific information that would be beneficial if it were publicly accessible, but that women understandably don't want a bunch of hooligans going into their leg shaving threads and killing the vibe.

I'm all for anything that encourages our lady members to contribute, yet there never seems to be a groundswell of support for a subforum.

ouch
07-26-2011, 01:30 PM
Hmmm. Lotta lonely guys here, I see.

M80
07-26-2011, 01:37 PM
but that women understandably don't want a bunch of hooligans going into their leg shaving threads and killing the vibe.


I find that pretty sexist.

Go West Young Man
07-26-2011, 01:39 PM
I find that pretty sexist.

And yet surprisingly accurate!

franz
07-26-2011, 01:57 PM
I find that pretty sexist.

I'm sure you, or I, or Chris, or many our members would be able to read and ask questions without acting immaturely - but experience shows this is not the case for everyone. There would be guys drawn to making jokes and sexual innuendo; precisely the reason, I suspect, the women's social group is private and invitation-only.

Barber-Eile
07-26-2011, 05:10 PM
The women's social group was initially open to all. However we found out that a few members had set up "female" accounts just so they could freely nose around. This felt like a violation and a bit like 'peeking under the bathroom stall'. After a lot of talks and consideration we agreed to make it a closed group.
However on the flip side the social group now is NOT invite only but rather has the same prerequesets as other closed groups - the member must have a min of 45 days on the board /50 posts. (I'm a little fuzzy on the exact figures but it's about that).
AND the social group is open to men with genuine questions or reasons for being there. We have had, and welcomed, male members in there before. We ask that all new members of the group introduce themselves out of politeness.

BigFoot
07-26-2011, 08:17 PM
The women's social group was initially open to all. However we found out that a few members had set up "female" accounts just so they could freely nose around. This felt like a violation and a bit like 'peeking under the bathroom stall'. After a lot of talks and consideration we agreed to make it a closed group.
However on the flip side the social group now is NOT invite only but rather has the same prerequesets as other closed groups - the member must have a min of 45 days on the board /50 posts. (I'm a little fuzzy on the exact figures but it's about that).
AND the social group is open to men with genuine questions or reasons for being there. We have had, and welcomed, male members in there before. We ask that all new members of the group introduce themselves out of politeness.

Here are my thoughts Dan.......

I like the idea you guys have your own group to discuss things about all aspects of shaving and whatever else you want to talk about in private. If legs were the only thing women shaved, no big deal. But I could just imagine the immaturity that would jump in if you discussed some of the other things in General Shaving. So IMO a womens forum would not benefit anyone for the simple fact you will still want to keep some things private.

If the rest of you have questions just post them in general shaving or send one of our ladies a PM. I have not found one yet that has not answered a question I have asked for my wife.

That would be my two cents worth.

Intrigued
07-26-2011, 10:14 PM
Speaking as one of the women members and only for myself, I'm fine with things just the way they are. :001_smile

franz
07-26-2011, 10:48 PM
The women's social group was initially open to all. However we found out that a few members had set up "female" accounts just so they could freely nose around. This felt like a violation and a bit like 'peeking under the bathroom stall'. After a lot of talks and consideration we agreed to make it a closed group.
However on the flip side the social group now is NOT invite only but rather has the same prerequesets as other closed groups - the member must have a min of 45 days on the board /50 posts. (I'm a little fuzzy on the exact figures but it's about that).
AND the social group is open to men with genuine questions or reasons for being there. We have had, and welcomed, male members in there before. We ask that all new members of the group introduce themselves out of politeness.

How sad.

Danielle, thanks for clarifying, sorry I misspoke.

Barber-Eile
07-27-2011, 12:44 PM
How sad.

Danielle, thanks for clarifying, sorry I misspoke.

No, it's no problem. I've gotten various forms of joking/ribbing on this forum. From the lighthearted banter I enjoy and can give as good as I get... to flattery that makes me blush ... to people basically telling me I don't belong here as I'm a woman.
99% of the guys on here are great though.

captp
07-27-2011, 12:55 PM
... to people basically telling me I don't belong here as I'm a woman.
99% of the guys on here are great though.

PM me their usernames. We'll send them a collective bitchslap back to the Dark Ages

Barber-Eile
07-27-2011, 01:37 PM
PM me their usernames. We'll send them a collective bitchslap back to the Dark Ages

Hee hee - thanks. Nah I don't even remember them much to be honest. None of the regulars anyway.
It was a good while ago before there were as many female members and before most people knew I was female. Anyway. I'll finish derailing and put this thread back on track!

the fnger genius
07-27-2011, 04:06 PM
One thing to note, if the social group's content is not publicly available, then it is also not likely crawled by external search engines. This could prevent other women out there from finding the board.

BigFoot
07-27-2011, 05:43 PM
One thing to note, if the social group's content is not publicly available, then it is also not likely crawled by external search engines. This could prevent other women out there from finding the board.

Hit the community link in the tool bar. It will drop down groups and you can find them all there.

Go West Young Man
07-27-2011, 06:06 PM
Hit the community link in the tool bar. It will drop down groups and you can find them all there.

I think the point he was making was that the B+B is a top Google hit for most shaving terms, but discussions in the social groups aren't included in those results.
Consequently, someone looking on the internet for info wouldn't be able to find it if it's hidden in a social group discussion.

BigFoot
07-27-2011, 06:12 PM
I think the point he was making was that the B+B is a top Google hit for most shaving terms, but discussions in the social groups aren't included in those results.
Consequently, someone looking on the internet for info wouldn't be able to find it if it's hidden in a social group discussion.

Oh sure now you have me confused.:ohmy:

scaevola
07-28-2011, 10:02 AM
I think the point he was making was that the B+B is a top Google hit for most shaving terms, but discussions in the social groups aren't included in those results.
Consequently, someone looking on the internet for info wouldn't be able to find it if it's hidden in a social group discussion.

The point of it being private is that you have to be a member to see the info. There is stuff on the forums about shaving for women, but most of the advice given to men can be used in a more general way.

mandoman
07-28-2011, 10:06 AM
this web site is free to any one so let them join and why not a ladies sub-forum I vote yes

a_bit_crafty
07-31-2011, 02:09 PM
I'd like to see how the ladies would feel about disbanding the Ladies Shaving Social Group and having all of their posts open for review and comment by the General Membership.

If there is a need for more Womens Shaving information, all the ladies have to do is post it.
In a perfect (and time, money, space allowing) world, it would be nice to have both. However, is it at all possible to make it so new women could go straight to the group without the wait? It'd be awesome, but I don't know if it would be feasible.



What do ladies do differently than men? Unless you specified in a post that you were talking about shaving legs and not a face, no-one would know any different and the advice given would be exactly the same.

Actually, it is a smidge different. Not way different, but different all the same.


And that, ladies and gents, is Crafty's two cents.

fitheglasscatfish
11-21-2011, 01:07 PM
I love being around this forum, and there is a lot of info which I am finding very useful.

There is one thing which I am finding difficult- and that is locating the spread around bits there are on female shaving. We have a few different issues- and it would be good to have somewhere that collected female specific posts. For example a female using male post shave products is going to have costs through the roof. Where as a female not shaving for 3 months (winter) is not that unusual.

I would love men to still feel welcome in our little corner if we got one, because your experience and presence is very valuable and welcome. Having a little area for women might encourage some of your good ladies to have the confidence to share your razors, your products, your buying guilt :001_tt1: and your love of shaving.

May we have a topic?

Love Fi

bobfarvour
11-21-2011, 01:09 PM
Three months ? Seriously ??

Luc
11-21-2011, 01:34 PM
I love being around this forum, and there is a lot of info which I am finding very useful.

There is one thing which I am finding difficult- and that is locating the spread around bits there are on female shaving. We have a few different issues- and it would be good to have somewhere that collected female specific posts. For example a female using male post shave products is going to have costs through the roof. Where as a female not shaving for 3 months (winter) is not that unusual.

I would love men to still feel welcome in our little corner if we got one, because your experience and presence is very valuable and welcome. Having a little area for women might encourage some of your good ladies to have the confidence to share your razors, your products, your buying guilt :001_tt1: and your love of shaving.

May we have a topic?

Love Fi

Most of that information can be located here: http://badgerandblade.com/vb/group.php?groupid=88 The Women Shavers social group

However, it will take 45 days on the forum and 50 posts before you can join.

fitheglasscatfish
11-21-2011, 02:34 PM
That is good to know and would explain me not having seen it so far. Please every one ignore that this was started again- I should have searched more for previous threads. I will be a good girl and wait till I have been here and posted enough.
Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.

Fiona

echotron
11-21-2011, 02:48 PM
this web site is free to any one so let them join and why not a ladies sub-forum I vote yes

+1 I agree with giving 'em a sub-forum, but I'd want 'em to still cruise the whole site and give their input.

Its true, I like women so much .... I married one! :001_tt1:

Go West Young Man
11-21-2011, 03:15 PM
Two points -


1. shaving is shaving, I think EVERYONE benefits from reading the tips and questions, regardless of whether it's a leg or a face under discussion.

2. social groups don't come up in search results, so newbies won't get the benefit of the collective wisdom if you're posting good stuff in a restricted group.

franz
11-21-2011, 03:41 PM
Fiona, I had a reply to you earlier that got deleted when your thread was moved. In addition to the social group stuff that Luc mentioned, I would encourage you to check out the wiki when it comes back up. There is a lot of good knowledge that was added there by a few of our lady B&Bers. Cheers.

fitheglasscatfish
11-21-2011, 04:00 PM
Thank you, I am looking forwards to the wiki for a few things.

mblakele
11-21-2011, 07:00 PM
Thank you, I am looking forwards to the wiki for a few things.

Meanwhile, here's a google cache link: not quite as good as having the wiki online, but hopefully better than nothing. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:6r4G895Wuo0J:wiki.badgerandblade.co m/Leg_shaving+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&lr=lang_de%7Clang_en