Linux Mint

[RichGem]

Ah sure, I could use a few more grey hairs. :biggrin:

Cory *lost* hair installing Mint and *buntu. You have been warned.

:lol:

[rabidpotatochip]

http://www.ubuntu.com/files/countdown/904/countdown-9.04-1/01.png

Tonight's going to be a combination of rummaging though files for taxes and backing up for the upgrade... yay?

Aw crap! I still need to sign forms for my taxes and bring them in!!! Thanks for the reminder!!!

Good luck on the backup. :biggrin:

[Confuzius]

Pfft, you've still got 8 days... plenty of time, what could go wrong!

[soapbox]

http://www.ubuntu.com/files/countdown/904/countdown-9.04-1/01.png

Tonight's going to be a combination of rummaging though files for taxes and backing up for the upgrade... yay?

You don't at least have a cron job to backup /home to a remote RAID server using an ssh certificate to avoid the need for password authentication via a shell script? For shame. Hang your head. :001_rolle


Oh, and "Linux!"

[rabidpotatochip]

Cory *lost* hair installing Mint and *buntu. You have been warned.

:lol:

I got off easy then. I just lost my sanity... :lol:


Pfft, you've still got 8 days... plenty of time, what could go wrong!

I read that post and a laugh that startled even me came out... :lol:

I dropped everything off at the accountant at the beginning of the month, I just haven't signed the papers for them to go ahead and file it. :frown:

[Confuzius]

You don't at least have a cron job to backup /home to a remote RAID server using an ssh certificate to avoid the need for password authentication via a shell script? For shame. Hang your head. :001_rolle


Oh, and "Linux!"

You offering hosting? :tongue_sm

One of these days, but for now it's just the good ole external hard drive and crossed fingers that my apartment doesn't burn down.

I would cron rsync it, but it's a cheap harddrive and I don't want to wear it out, so I just turn it on when I need to shuffle data around.

Plus all of the important documents and pictures are all either online somewhere (picassa, flickr, facebook, gdocs) or at my parents place to a certain degree.

[Confuzius]

It's here!
I'm all backed up and am going to attempt a dist-upgrade. I'll probably end up reformating anyways just to get ext4 but this give me something I can look forward to when I get back home after lunch. (being able to go home at lunch rocks!)

[rabidpotatochip]

It's here!
I'm all backed up and am going to attempt a dist-upgrade. I'll probably end up reformating anyways just to get ext4 but this give me something I can look forward to when I get back home after lunch. (being able to go home at lunch rocks!)

That's a feature I hope to exploit when I move. :biggrin:

I'm also looking forward to ext4, it makes the whole fresh install thing sound good.

[Confuzius]

Yeah, Im having a race between the dist-upgrade and the torrent.... right now the torrent is winning and the dist-upgrade is going at ~30 kB/s compared to 400 kB/s
So I may end up just doing a format tonight anyways.

Plus half the fun is the fresh start, besides, I'm quite used to the 6month reformat cycle from my windows days :-P

[rabidpotatochip]

Yeah, Im having a race between the dist-upgrade and the torrent.... right now the torrent is winning and the dist-upgrade is going at ~30 kB/s compared to 400 kB/s
So I may end up just doing a format tonight anyways.

Plus half the fun is the fresh start, besides, I'm quite used to the 6month reformat cycle from my windows days :-P

Amen brother. :biggrin:

[blackfoot]

I have never reformatted my current computer. I have had it for six years, I think. Then again, maybe that is why it is hosed right now.

[Confuzius]

Well, the upgrade didn't work, lol.
It went through all the steps, told me to reboot and I'm still running 8.10 =\
I'll have a crack at a fresh install sometime tonight...

[RichGem]

That's a feature I hope to exploit when I move. :biggrin:

I'm also looking forward to ext4, it makes the whole fresh install thing sound good.

I didn't know that moose would do delivery. :001_rolle

[rabidpotatochip]

I didn't know that moose would do delivery. :001_rolle

Well, not that moose... :tongue:

[RichGem]

Well, not that moose... :tongue:

Ah, you have to have a union moose do it. Good luck with that. :wink:

[chickpea]

I've been running ext4 for about half a year now. Love it. It's fast as hell, stable, etc. Really improves performance.

[OldSaw]

Man! I leave you guys alone for a little while and you completely botch the 7000th post flair. tsk tsk :nono:

[rabidpotatochip]

Man! I leave you guys alone for a little while and you completely botch the 7000th post flair. tsk tsk :nono:

I didn't do it this time. :biggrin:

[burnwood]

Whoa, whoa whoa! Linux.

[OldSaw]

Crap! I forgot to say Linux.

[rabidpotatochip]

Whoa, whoa whoa! Linux.

That's right! It's Ubuntu release day!

[burnwood]

I have the T mobile G1 google phone. Its platform is Linux. I am trying to find a macromedia flash mobile program for it so I can get to watch some things on it.

but my excitement when I try, it asks what version for your linux program do you want?

I belong.

Linux.


Tears.

joy.

[OldSaw]

I have the T mobile G1 google phone. Its platform is Linux. I am trying to find a macromedia flash mobile program for it so I can get to watch some things on it.

but my excitement when I try, it asks what version for your linux program do you want?

I belong.

Linux.


Tears.

joy.

That is like, total geekdom, Woody.

[Confuzius]

http://www.ubuntu.com/files/countdown/904/countdown-9.04-1/01.png

Tonight's going to be a combination of rummaging though files for taxes and backing up for the upgrade... yay?

I totally didn't stalk the 7k post to make it mildly on-topic....

[OldSaw]

I totally didn't stalk the 7k post to make it mildly on-topic....

Well... I guess that is a pretty good piece of flair after all.

[burnwood]

That is like, total geekdom, Woody.

that is who I am Dennis. More nerd though. Nerds get chicks.

[RichGem]

that is who I am Dennis. More nerd though. Nerds get chicks.


Holodeck constructs don't count, Ray.

:biggrin:

[Confuzius]

I thought it was the otherway around, Geeks got chicks and nerds would be total losers... if it weren't for the dorks that is.

[Confuzius]

Curses, I accidentally downloaded x86 instead of amd64!

[RichGem]

Curses, I accidentally downloaded x86 instead of amd64!

Neither a geek nor a nerd would ever make that mistake.

[Confuzius]

touché

[blackfoot]

I, hopefully, have my internet problem resolved. I wasn't able to access have the time. It was quite irritating. I couldn't get on at all the entire day Chip returned from prison. I was really looking forward to that. Lucky form me, Chip wasn't in any shape to come back in force. We were really let down. Obviously, the stay in the Canadian prison severely scarred him and he is just finally returning to himself. Either that, or the circumstances that revolve around Cory's failure to return. RIP (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?p=1135755&highlight=epic#post1135755)

[soapbox]

Holodeck constructs don't count, Ray.

:biggrin:

Yeah, for real, Mrs. Burnwood is a bigger nerd than you are! Er, wait, that didn't come out right... :blushing: :scared: :a49:

[blackfoot]

Yeah, for real, Mrs. Burnwood is a bigger nerd than you are! Er, wait, that didn't come out right... :blushing: :scared: :a49:

Attacking the women never ends well. :frown:

[arghblech]

I think I'm going to have to give up on gentoo after many many years. The only problem is that I can't decide what distro to use now. I'm looking for recommendations *but* I will not use Ubuntu. I refuse to say the stupid names they give to releases.

So. Any ideas what I should try?

[RichGem]

I think I'm going to have to give up on gentoo after many many years. The only problem is that I can't decide what distro to use now. I'm looking for recommendations *but* I will not use Ubuntu. I refuse to say the stupid names they give to releases.

So. Any ideas what I should try?



Fedora!

(linux)

[rabidpotatochip]

I think I'm going to have to give up on gentoo after many many years. The only problem is that I can't decide what distro to use now. I'm looking for recommendations *but* I will not use Ubuntu. I refuse to say the stupid names they give to releases.

So. Any ideas what I should try?



Fedora!

(linux)


Yeah, I'm with Rich on this one. Or you can just call Ubuntu by its number (e.g. 9.04).

[Confuzius]

I think I'm going to have to give up on gentoo after many many years. The only problem is that I can't decide what distro to use now. I'm looking for recommendations *but* I will not use Ubuntu. I refuse to say the stupid names they give to releases.

So. Any ideas what I should try?

Yeah, fedora. Although if you're giving up on gentoo, you can try out Sabayon. It's like gentoo but with a binary package manager. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabayon_Linux

or if you want to go mainstream but not Ubuntu, it's Fedora.


I've got my freshly formated 64bit ext4 Ubuntu 9.04 up and running now, almost back to how it was just going though the steps trying to remember what I had installed, and what I need to re-enable. I tossed in my 2gb of extra ram I had lying around now that I'm not playing Warcraft anymore. (Stupid Wine bug crashes if you've got over 4gb ram) so 5gb of delicious rammy goodness, makes virtualbox a breeze to run now.

[soapbox]

I think I'm going to have to give up on gentoo after many many years. The only problem is that I can't decide what distro to use now. I'm looking for recommendations *but* I will not use Ubuntu. I refuse to say the stupid names they give to releases.

So. Any ideas what I should try?


Fedora!


Yeah, I'm with Rich on this one.


Yeah, fedora. Although if you're giving up on gentoo, you can try out Sabayon. It's like gentoo but with a binary package manager. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabayon_Linux

I agree and support the idea of Fedora, though Ubuntu is based on Debian, a distro that I've used with success in the past. I also support trying Sabayon, but I don't know your reasons for leaving Gentoo. There are always reasons to leave a distro behind, though I find that, like Democracy, any given distribution of Linux is the "worst form of government in the world -- except for all the others".

[OldSaw]

So what's so special about the newest release of Ubuntu?

[Confuzius]

So what's so special about the newest release of Ubuntu?

The inclusion of the ext4 file system is the big one, it means faster drive access and moving around of files along with a slightly faster boot time. Although you won't get that without a reformat.

Open Office 3.0 is included by default now which is cool.

although my favourite thing that I've found so far is they renamed "sessions" to "startup programs" common sense FTW!

EDIT: Apparently they've made the Pulse Audio work much better too.

[RichGem]

Lynchmeister! Where are you? It's LINUX calling!

[Jac]

I think I'm going to have to give up on gentoo after many many years. The only problem is that I can't decide what distro to use now. I'm looking for recommendations *but* I will not use Ubuntu. I refuse to say the stupid names they give to releases.

So. Any ideas what I should try?

I like the real Debian... :001_smile

[arghblech]

I agree and support the idea of Fedora, though Ubuntu is based on Debian, a distro that I've used with success in the past. I also support trying Sabayon, but I don't know your reasons for leaving Gentoo. There are always reasons to leave a distro behind, though I find that, like Democracy, any given distribution of Linux is the "worst form of government in the world -- except for all the others".

Hrm several things.

1) Gentoo as a distro and as a group of people used to be fun. Now they bicker like a bunch of gangsters who all want to be Mr. Black and have tons of highly restrictive rules for bugzilla, mailing lists, forums, etc.

2) They spent so much time trying to attract newbies to gentoo that they made life more difficult for power uses. Now they have abandoned the "user-friendliness" and can't find a way to get back to being admin friendly. They are wedged in between both and aren't very good at either these days.

3) The lack of decent QA on packages has finally pissed me off beyond what I can accept. Breakages will happen. They need to happen a heck of a lot less than they do now.

There's more but I'll spare you.

[Lynchmeister]

I sure hope Cory doesn't see this (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?p=1135755&highlight=epic#post1135755).


:eek:

[RichGem]

:eek:

:lol:

It has been officially dubbed the "ChipRoll" as per the glossary in the wiki

[Jac]

:eek:

Took you long enough... Been busy or something?:tongue_sm

[RichGem]

Lynchmeister! Where are you? It's LINUX calling!




Wow, I guess that really works. <shocked>

Sure, he'll log on for LINUX, but for the rest of us.... <sigh>

[chickpea]

I think I'm going to have to give up on gentoo after many many years. The only problem is that I can't decide what distro to use now. I'm looking for recommendations *but* I will not use Ubuntu. I refuse to say the stupid names they give to releases.

So. Any ideas what I should try?

May I suggest Sabayon? It's got most of gentoo's packages, has a binary installer by default (although you can use portage or paludis (if you're one of those)). You would likely feel much at home in this fabulous distro. All of the fun, none of the recriminations and screaming.

Or Arch, or perhaps Fedora (but the idea of using YaST makes me sick to my stomach).

Debian's good. At least their releases are macho: Lenny, Sarge arrh, I'm tough!

Mint? ubuntu clone, but none of the silly names, or blob restrictions.

Slack?

[RichGem]

May I suggest Sabayon? It's got most of gentoo's packages, has a binary installer by default (although you can use portage or paludis (if you're one of those)). You would likely feel much at home in this fabulous distro. All of the fun, none of the recriminations and screaming.

Or Arch, or perhaps Fedora (but the idea of using YaST makes me sick to my stomach).

Debian's good. At least their releases are macho: Lenny, Sarge arrh, I'm tough!

Mint? ubuntu clone, but none of the silly names, or blob restrictions.

Slack?


Fedora uses "yum" and (if you install it) "apt-get" for rpm in addition to whatever updater-gui they've thrown in.

SUSE uses "yast"

[chickpea]

Fedora uses "yum" and (if you install it) "apt-get" for rpm in addition to whatever updater-gui they've thrown in.

SUSE uses "yast"

right, all that rpm crap. You can keep it. :blushing:

[OldSaw]

:eek:

Speechless I see.

[blackfoot]

Cory....Cory....Hello...

Wow, he didn't take that chiproll well at all. I guess we have to repeal the murder charges on Limecat.

[OldSaw]

Cory....Cory....Hello...

Wow, he didn't take that chiproll well at all. I guess we have to repeal the murder charges on Limecat.

...but does debilitating shock fall under assault?

[rabidpotatochip]

:eek:

Jeez, now I feel bad... :frown:

[RichGem]

Jeez, now I feel bad... :frown:

You'll recover. Cory? I'm not so sure. :tongue:

[rabidpotatochip]

You'll recover. Cory? I'm not so sure. :tongue:

Ah, he'll be back... his people need him! :biggrin:

[RichGem]

Ah, he'll be back... his people need him! :biggrin:

pffft. I'm running the Czardom just fine without him. :clap:

[blackfoot]

Jeez, now I feel bad... :frown:

Don't worry. Ignore such pesky feelings long enough and they go away.

[blackfoot]

pffft. I'm running the Czardom just fine without him. :clap:

Why does this scare me?

[rabidpotatochip]

Don't worry. Ignore such pesky feelings long enough and they go away.

Thanks, I feel manlier already!


Why does this scare me?

Yeah, the buckets of fish are worrisome.

[RichGem]

Thanks, I feel manlier already!



Yeah, the buckets of fish are worrisome.

I do loves my sushi.

[rabidpotatochip]

I do loves my sushi.

Seriously? Cause if so I'm taking you out for lunch. :biggrin:

[RichGem]

Seriously? Cause if so I'm taking you out for lunch. :biggrin:

typically, I have it once a week or at least every 2 wks. tho, my favorite Asian food is Thai.

[rabidpotatochip]

typically, I have it once a week or at least every 2 wks. tho, my favorite Asian food is Thai.

You'd love my aunt then, she's from Thailand. Such good food... *searches for drooling emoticon and gives up*

Well, it's official... we're going for sushi. :biggrin:

[RichGem]

You'd love my aunt then, she's from Thailand. Such good food... *searches for drooling emoticon and gives up*

Well, it's official... we're going for sushi. :biggrin:

the emoticon in question, is ... get ready.... sit down... : drool :


:lol:


oooh... homemade Thai! :drool: Does she do delivery?

Sushi it is. Tho, I think the closest we'll get in Vegas is PF Changs on the Strip (which is very good, btw, and very crowded).

[blackfoot]

:drool: Was this what you were looking for?

[RichGem]

so, why am I suddenly hungry?

[JBHoren]

A few weeks ago, I installed Linux Mint 6 KDE RC1 on my workstation (still running LM 5 KDE on my laptop) -- it was a fresh install, and without any problems... except that Kopete didn't work, and that Akonadi server continues to not work correctly.

So, yesterday I did a fresh install of Kubuntu 9.04 on my workstation -- again, without any problems... except that Kopete still didn't work.

OK, I created a new user, with no pre-existing KDE files (in the hope that Kopete would work). No joy; Kopete still didn't work.

So... I performed a fresh install of Linux Mint 5 KDE on my workstation, and everything (Kopete, included) works fine! and I confess that KDE/3.5.10 is still MUCH nicer than KDE/4.2.2).

http://www.horen.org.il/jpegs/images/Mint-Screen.jpg

[rabidpotatochip]

the emoticon in question, is ... get ready.... sit down... : drool :


:lol:


oooh... homemade Thai! :drool: Does she do delivery?

Sushi it is. Tho, I think the closest we'll get in Vegas is PF Changs on the Strip (which is very good, btw, and very crowded).

It's a good thing I was sitting... that would have floored me otherwise. :lol:

Before I left (several years ago) I got her to write all her recipes down... her curry is awesome. She might deliver, but uh... she lives in the Netherlands sooo it probably won't be warm by the time it gets to your place.

Thai is good too... it's all good. The only Asian dish I've outright disliked was fried tofu (agedashi I think).


:drool: Was this what you were looking for?

Yeah, but I gave up and I don't go back on my apathy... :lol:


so, why am I suddenly hungry?

I'm so full... we had bacon and eggs for supper. :lol:

[rabidpotatochip]

A few weeks ago, I installed Linux Mint 6 KDE RC1 on my workstation (still running LM 5 KDE on my laptop) -- it was a fresh install, and without any problems... except that Kopete didn't work, and that Akonadi server continues to not work correctly.

So, yesterday I did a fresh install of Kubuntu 9.04 on my workstation -- again, without any problems... except that Kopete still didn't work.

OK, I created a new user, with no pre-existing KDE files (in the hope that Kopete would work). No joy; Kopete still didn't work.

So... I performed a fresh install of Linux Mint 5 KDE on my workstation, and everything (Kopete, included) works fine! and I confess that KDE/3.5.10 is still MUCH nicer than KDE/4.2.2).

http://www.horen.org.il/jpegs/images/Mint-Screen.jpg

That is very pretty. I've seriously been considering giving Mint a shot thanks to this thread.

[RichGem]

It's a good thing I was sitting... that would have floored me otherwise. :lol:

Before I left (several years ago) I got her to write all her recipes down... her curry is awesome. She might deliver, but uh... she lives in the Netherlands sooo it probably won't be warm by the time it gets to your place.

Thai is good too... it's all good. The only Asian dish I've outright disliked was fried tofu (agedashi I think).



Yeah, but I gave up and I don't go back on my apathy... :lol:



I'm so full... we had bacon and eggs for supper. :lol:

Not a fan (0r even remotely) of tofu either. tho my japanese friend made me try fried tofu last week. it was edible (as a try it thing), but not something I'd ever look forward to eating.

as for your dinner... check your clocks, I think you're about 12 hours off. Or maybe they take daylight savings a bit to far up there?

ps.... not even gonna touch the recipe thing... I'm so craving Thai right now.

[rabidpotatochip]

Not a fan (0r even remotely) of tofu either. tho my japanese friend made me try fried tofu last week. it was edible (as a try it thing), but not something I'd ever look forward to eating.

as for your dinner... check your clocks, I think you're about 12 hours off. Or maybe they take daylight savings a bit to far up there?

ps.... not even gonna touch the recipe thing... I'm so craving Thai right now.

Wait, you're supposed to move the clocks back too?! :eek:

[RichGem]

Wait, you're supposed to move the clocks back too?! :eek:

yeah, believe it or not, it's not a cumulative thing.

[rabidpotatochip]

yeah, believe it or not, it's not a cumulative thing.

Ah man, I'm living 27 hours ahead. :lol:

[RichGem]

Ah man, I'm living 27 hours ahead. :lol:

See, you've already saved 27 hours. :w00t:

[soapbox]

Jeez, now I feel bad... :frown:

No you don't...:001_rolle

[OldSaw]

pffft. I'm running the Czardom just fine without him. :clap:

I hope we don't have a mutiny on our hands.

[RichGem]

I hope we don't have a mutiny on our hands.

Nah, I'll be making sure that Cory and any possible decendents won't be able to reclaim the throne will get the best of care and rest until he's ready to resume his duties.

[soapbox]

Ray (burnwood) and I stand ready. Fuzzier than ever. We will be back!

[blackfoot]

Nah, I'll be making sure that Cory and any possible decendents won't be able to reclaim the throne will get the best of care and rest until he's ready to resume his duties.

Hence why you never leave someone in your regime who is semi-competent.

[arghblech]

right, all that rpm crap. You can keep it. :blushing:

RPM is the reason I'm pretty anti anything redhatish for home use. I've worked with rpm for years and it drives me batty.

YAST is another level of hell entirely.

[soapbox]

RPM is the reason I'm pretty anti anything redhatish for home use. I've worked with rpm for years and it drives me batty.

YAST is another level of hell entirely.

Yep, even though Gentoo has its challenges, I'm pretty happy with portage. apt-get, though imperfect, does beat YaST and rpm. It's also worth noting that the BSDs' package management is very good, but then we'd have to fork the thread because they're not Linux and we should stay on topic...

[Confuzius]

recompiling gnome-panel to allow more than 5 bookmarks before it drops to a sub-menu. This should totally be a config setting rather than something hardcoded...

EDIT: It worked! woo!

[rabidpotatochip]

I found a spare 160gb hard drive... I think I'll rig it up as an offline mirror of Wikipedia. :biggrin:

[OldSaw]

I think I know what the Czar has been up to. Apparently he has appointed a cabinet of cigar smoking super models and they have been doing a photo shoot on location.























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[blackfoot]

Wow, the second go-round in prison really messed him up. :eek:

[rabidpotatochip]

Wow, the second go-round in prison really messed him up. :eek:

+1. He has a great tan though!

[OldSaw]

Wow, the second go-round in prison really messed him up. :eek:


+1. He has a great tan though!

I think Cory is the one behind the lens. He couldn't afford to hire a professional photographer after making his Canadian bail. Plus, he had to make sure he had enough to fly his Havana beauties back to Toronto before trying to make another U.S./Canadian border crossing.

[blackfoot]

+1. He has a great tan though!

Please keep any tan-line knowledge to yourself. :frown:

[OldSaw]

Please keep any tan-line knowledge to yourself. :frown:

I'm more worried about the whipping lines Cory is going to get from the Mrs.

[blackfoot]

I'm more worried about the whipping lines Cory is going to get from the Mrs.

Where is the make it stop picture? :eek:

[RichGem]

I'm more worried about the whipping lines Cory is going to get from the Mrs.

Why? Mrs. L. as never complained about it before. :eek:

:biggrin:

[OldSaw]

Why? Mrs. L. as never complained about it before. :eek:

:biggrin:

You seem to have some inside scoop.

[RichGem]

You seem to have some inside scoop.


Unfortunately, the servants in the Palace tend to talk. <sigh>

[blackfoot]

Unfortunately, the servants in the Palace tend to talk. <sigh>

What are we to do?

[soapbox]

What are we to do?

Cut out their tongues, duh. It's what all despots are doing this year. And keep them away from computers with network access or printers!

[RichGem]

Cut out their tongues, duh. It's what all despots are doing this year. And keep them away from computers with network access or printers!

And they taste great on rye. *shudder*

[blackfoot]

Cut out their tongues, duh. It's what all despots are doing this year. And keep them away from computers with network access or printers!

I thought that was so last year. Isn't the new thing to brand their tongues?

[RichGem]

Cut out their tongues, duh. It's what all despots are doing this year. And keep them away from computers with network access or printers!

And, as Acting Czar, I am striving for greater benevolence.
(I'm just having them all duct tape their mouths. But, I may have to "terminate" a few of them as an example.)

[chickpea]

Yep, even though Gentoo has its challenges, I'm pretty happy with portage. apt-get, though imperfect, does beat YaST and rpm. It's also worth noting that the BSDs' package management is very good, but then we'd have to fork the thread because they're not Linux and we should stay on topic...

WE HAVE A TOPIC!!!!!11???:001_huh::eek:

ja, BSD ports FTW.

I love portage (and BSD ports) even with all its warts. And it still b*tchslaps all the other package managers (with the possible exceptions of entropy and apt-get).

[chickpea]

Are you sure Cory isn't "on the other side of the fence" down there in Havana? That may explain his sudden absence: Obama finally got sick of all the secessionist rhetoric and decided to reincorporate the Realm of Cheddar into the Union and depose its despot. :eek:

[RichGem]

WE HAVE A TOPIC!!!!!11???:001_huh::eek:

ja, BSD ports FTW.

I love portage (and BSD ports) even with all its warts. And it still b*tchslaps all the other package managers (with the possible exceptions of entropy and apt-get).


pffft. Real men use "tar -x" and "make"

[soapbox]

pffft. Real men use "tar -x" and "make"

Building dependencies sucks. I've built some hefty software from scratch (not OpenOffice, mind you, but still a couple dozen dependencies) and I'd take rpm over that, but that doesn't mean I like rpm.

[soapbox]

WE HAVE A TOPIC!!!!!11???:001_huh::eek:


There, there, chickpea, there's no topic. Honest there's not. Here, have some unicorn steak and some pixie tea.

[OldSaw]

I love portage (and BSD ports) even with all its warts. And it still b*tchslaps all the other package managers (with the possible exceptions of entropy and apt-get).

Cory will be happy, as this is an actual town in Wisconsin.

[chickpea]

There, there, chickpea, there's no topic. Honest there's not. Here, have some unicorn steak and some pixie tea.

mmmmm, pixie tea, the wings are nice and crispy . . . but they always get stuck in my teeth.

I like sucking the marrow from the horn, yum! (wait that is really twisted read another way . . ., oh well chalk that up to yet another thing I shouldn't have said on the internetz).

[RichGem]

Building dependencies sucks. I've built some hefty software from scratch (not OpenOffice, mind you, but still a couple dozen dependencies) and I'd take rpm over that, but that doesn't mean I like rpm.

:yesnod: Big time.

[burnwood]

:yesnod: Big time.

you called?


I am linux big time.

[soapbox]

you called?


I am linux big time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvl30tbq7wA).

You're on your way out making it? You've got to make it show? Yeah! :w00t:

[blackfoot]

Random Linux. :001_smile

[OldSaw]

This thread needs a little Lynchmeister.

[blackfoot]

This thread needs a little Lynchmeister.

I haven't met him. Is he that little?

[RichGem]

This thread needs a little Lynchmeister.

and some cowbell

[blackfoot]

and some cowbell

:lol::lol::lol: CS

[soapbox]

and some cowbell

I give you Peter Gabriel, you ask for cowbell?? Sheesh.

[OldSaw]

Czar bell.

[RichGem]

I give you Peter Gabriel, you ask for cowbell?? Sheesh.

If it makes you feel better, I did catch the quote.

[blackfoot]

Czar bell.

:lol::lol: How appropriate.

[Lynchmeister]

oooh. Sorry, Dennis. It's "MAmma JAmma"... but your linux was in the right place. :biggrin:

As to Young Master Lynch... well, he's still recovering from Chip's epic post and the subsequent chiprolling that has taken place. Poor little fella.

As acting Czar, it brought a tear to my eye to see that you haven't fallen asleep at the wheel...yet. :biggrin:


We're really missing Mr. Gillette these days; he could talk about Linux like nobody else.


It's true. The man ate, slept, drank, walked, talked, ran, jumped, flew, fell, sauntered, strutted, strolled, rolled, boiled, sauteed, deep-fried, breathed and lived Linux.


mmmm, deep-fried Linux!


I prefer "original recipe." :wink:

He's still not back? :eek: Bummer. :nonod:


Cory *lost* hair installing Mint and *buntu. You have been warned.

:lol:

This is true, but just ask Dennis and Marty - you can't even tell it's a tupee! :lol:


I have never reformatted my current computer. I have had it for six years, I think. Then again, maybe that is why it is hosed right now.

Oh...it's hosed alright! :w00t:


I have the T mobile G1 google phone. Its platform is Linux. I am trying to find a macromedia flash mobile program for it so I can get to watch some things on it.

but my excitement when I try, it asks what version for your linux program do you want?

I belong.

Linux.


Tears.

joy.

We've bagged another one! :w00t:


Lynchmeister! Where are you? It's LINUX calling!




Where was I? Surrendering to the beat down of home ownership. <shudder>


Took you long enough... Been busy or something?:tongue_sm

:rolleyes: :lol:


Wow, I guess that really works. <shocked>

Sure, he'll log on for LINUX, but for the rest of us.... <sigh>

Hate to burst your bubble, but it was just a coincidence...I mean, anything for my Linux Buddies!


Speechless I see.

Needless to say. :tongue_sm


Jeez, now I feel bad... :frown:

Nah, I've taught you well. :biggrin:


You'll recover. Cory? I'm not so sure. :tongue:

Me recover from the last month? No :censored: way. :nonod:


Ah, he'll be back... his people need him! :biggrin:

My people are my inspiration.


pffft. I'm running the Czardom just fine without him. :clap:

Nice! Now I don't have to come back to work. :w00t:


That is very pretty. I've seriously been considering giving Mint a shot thanks to this thread.

Ironically, I think your first comment in this thread made a reference to how "pretty" Mint is. :lol: 7000+ posts later and he's potentially considering giving it a try. :lol::lol:


I hope we don't have a mutiny on our hands.

George is gettin' upset!


Nah, I'll be making sure that Cory and any possible decendents won't be able to reclaim the throne will get the best of care and rest until he's ready to resume his duties.

:biggrin:


Hence why you never leave someone in your regime who is semi-competent.

Nope. I think we're ok here. :w00t:


I think I know what the Czar has been up to. Apparently he has appointed a cabinet of cigar smoking super models and they have been doing a photo shoot on location.























48393

48395

48396

48399

48398

Whoa! :shifty: I mean--ack! MY EYES! JESSE, QUICK! Bleach it!


Wow, the second go-round in prison really messed him up. :eek:

:yesnod:


+1. He has a great tan though!

:whistling:


I think Cory is the one behind the lens. He couldn't afford to hire a professional photographer after making his Canadian bail. Plus, he had to make sure he had enough to fly his Havana beauties back to Toronto before trying to make another U.S./Canadian border crossing.

In this economy, can ya blame me?!?


I'm more worried about the whipping lines Cory is going to get from the Mrs.


Why? Mrs. L. as never complained about it before. :eek:

:biggrin:


You seem to have some inside scoop.


Unfortunately, the servants in the Palace tend to talk. <sigh>


Cut out their tongues, duh. It's what all despots are doing this year. And keep them away from computers with network access or printers!


And, as Acting Czar, I am striving for greater benevolence.
(I'm just having them all duct tape their mouths. But, I may have to "terminate" a few of them as an example.)

:lol:


This thread needs a little Lynchmeister.


I haven't met him. Is he that little short?

...yes...


and some cowbell


Czar bell.

:lol::lol::lol: Yes!

[soapbox]

Changing "chiproll" to "czarroll" in wiki glossary...now. :crazy:

[Lynchmeister]

Changing "chiproll" to "czarroll" in wiki glossary...now. :crazy:

...I've only been back for an hour and already I'm stealing his mighty thunder. LimeCat's gonna be pissed. :eek:

[RichGem]

Changing "chiproll" to "czarroll" in wiki glossary...now. :crazy:

OOOF. And how!

But, in fairness, Chip really didn't stand a chance once Cory checked in.

[soapbox]

OOOF. And how!

But, in fairness, Chip really didn't stand a chance once Cory checked in.

Uh-oh, I bet Chip might take that personally. I mean, he's plugged over 1,000 posts since we lost track of Cory...

[RichGem]

Uh-oh, I bet Chip might take that personally. I mean, he's plugged over 1,000 posts since we lost track of Cory...

Perhaps, but even in Chip's world, a FULL PAGE multi quote trumps all.

:wink:

[OldSaw]

Wow! Nice Chiproll Czarroll, Cory. Looks like I might have to change the link in my sig line.

[RichGem]

Changing "chiproll" to "czarroll" in wiki glossary...now. :crazy:


...I've only been back for an hour and already I'm stealing his mighty thunder. LimeCat's gonna be pissed. :eek:


OOOF. And how!

But, in fairness, Chip really didn't stand a chance once Cory checked in.


Uh-oh, I bet Chip might take that personally. I mean, he's plugged over 1,000 posts since we lost track of Cory...


Perhaps, but even in Chip's world, a FULL PAGE multi quote trumps all.

:wink:


Wow! Nice Chiproll Czarroll, Cory. Looks like I might have to change the link in my sig line.

OTOH, I'm thinking we could keep both... chipRolls for ordinary rolling and the czarRoll when ya really wanna nail someone to the wall.

Oh, and yes, that is gratuitous multi-quoting you see above. hehehe

[Lynchmeister]

OTOH, I'm thinking we could keep both... chipRolls for ordinary rolling and the czarRoll when ya really wanna nail someone to the wall.

Oh, and yes, that is gratuitous multi-quoting you see above. hehehe

Please, at the very least. :redface:

...and I do like the varying degrees of *rollage. :lol:

[Jac]

A *Roll for every occasion... That's class.:cool:

[soapbox]

A *Roll for every occasion... That's class.:cool:

Then there's the all important Roll:

Roll Tide! (http://www.rolltide.com/)

[blackfoot]

Aah! My head is rolling! :crazy:

[rabidpotatochip]

Well, now that Cory's back I'll put my multi-quoting days behind me... there's simply no way to compete after all.

Besides, I've moved on to bigger and better things... impersonating moderators. :biggrin:

[Confuzius]

On-topic break:
Since upgrading -via fresh install- to ubuntu 9.04 (x64) I've been having a few problems:

I can't get html rendering to work in wine (wine-gecko is installed, it just dosn't seem to work)

More annoyingly so having any Adobe Air app open crashes Flash which crashes Firefox.

I'm not expecting any ansewers here, but I figured that I'd throw it out there.

Oh, also arduino (http://www.arduino.cc/) ide (java) works, but crashes whenever I try to use the serial monitor to send or watch anthing come in over serial.

Go figure, java, wine and flash are causing my biggest headaches...

[rabidpotatochip]

Yikes... wish I could help ya, but nothing comes to mind and I don't think I'll have time to dig anything useful up. I'll keep an eye out though.

[soapbox]

On-topic break:
Since upgrading -via fresh install- to ubuntu 9.04 (x64) I've been having a few problems:

...

Go figure, java, wine and flash are causing my biggest headaches...

Gee, go figure. Might I suggest a virtualbox (http://www.virtualbox.org/)with WinXP instead? That might get you back up and running, albeit not the way you expected.

[Confuzius]

I've got vista up and running in virtualbox right now, but the goal was to get Steam/HL2 up and running, so virtualizations won't really cut it. Although my next 'puter I'm going to take into account virtualization friendly processors when shopping.

All of this stuff is things I had working in 8.10 (x64) but I just can't leave well enough alone... Where's the fun in that!?

[soapbox]

I've got vista up and running in virtualbox right now, but the goal was to get Steam/HL2 up and running, so virtualizations won't really cut it. Although my next 'puter I'm going to take into account virtualization friendly processors when shopping.

All of this stuff is things I had working in 8.10 (x64) but I just can't leave well enough alone... Where's the fun in that!?

Agreed. And I'd love to play Team Fortress 2 on my Gentoo box. That would be teh r0xx0rz.

OK, so virtualbox is less of a complete solution. Eh, it was a thought.

[soapbox]

And where the heck is Tom? Has anyone heard from him?

[OldSaw]

And where the heck is Tom? Has anyone heard from him?

I haven't heard from him since the meet up at the Mall of America where I called him on the phone. It was too bad he couldn't make it. You could always send him a PM as it will probably prompt him by email. Maybe he will grant us a guest appearance.

[Confuzius]

Agreed. And I'd love to play Team Fortress 2 on my Gentoo box. That would be teh r0xx0rz.

OK, so virtualbox is less of a complete solution. Eh, it was a thought.

Yeah, this whole re-foray into wine was brought on by the fact that I just missed out on the $9.99 orange box last weekend, so I figure I should try and get everything working before the next time they discount it so much.

I got it fixed by downgrading my video driver from nvidia's latest (181.51?) to the latest in Ubuntu's repo (180.41?) playing around with some xorg settings for metamodes as I run dual monitors which generally confuzes[sic) the heck out of full screen games without proper metamodes in xorg.conf. Then just deleting ~/.wine managed to fix my wine-gecko problem.

As a result of this I tested it out with World of Warcraft -still installed on my win7 partition- and went from 15-20fps with all video settings on low in 8.10 to 30-40fps with all video settings on max in 9.04 (60-90fps on low!)

And that's without any of the recommended native dlls or registry tweaks, and with compiz-fusion running.

I signed up for a 10 day free trial just to test it because I haven't played in a few months, but I was astounded by the difference, my girlfriend noted it as well.

I got Steam installed and am downloading/installing HL2 as we speak. I'm crossing my fingers that I'll have the same good luck with it as I did with WoW. The next step will be getting a friend who has the orange box to log in on my computer so that I can download and try and get TF2 working :biggrin1:

[DefaultAnon]

Welcome;)

I went linux a couple of years ago and havent even considered going back to windows. In fact, I get a little angry when I think about all the crap I had to deal with during the years of windows and a brief stint of Mac.
Open source is a beautiful thing.
You will get frustrated, but there is a ridiculously helpful community of linux users who are more than willing to help you. Its worth it and youll have fun. i promise

[chickpea]

Welcome;)

I went linux a couple of years ago and havent even considered going back to windows. In fact, I get a little angry when I think about all the crap I had to deal with during the years of windows and a brief stint of Mac.
Open source is a beautiful thing.
You will get frustrated, but there is a ridiculously helpful community of linux users who are more than willing to help you. Its worth it and youll have fun. i promise

Who let this linux post in here. We are dangerously close to getting back on topic here:thumbdown

BTW, yeah, I've been a linux junkie now for over two years (not long I know) but in that time, I've become increasingly pissed off at windows. I am the in-house tech guy for a small law firm (I'm an atty) and we use XP. God do I hate troubleshooting windows issues. Most of the time, there is no answer, just suck it up and live with it. Drives me nuts.

[soapbox]

Who let this linux post in here. We are dangerously close to getting back on topic here:thumbdown

Oh yeah? :mad: Well, take this!

I recompiled my kernel and I'm currently (gack!) troubleshooting a b0rked xorg install. My gentoo machine had been up and running for so long I have no idea when I clobbered the xorg server (i.e. the old one was still running), so that'll teach *me* to upgrade my kernel and then reboot... :cursing:

And who let these ATI (radeon) driver binaries in here?? We're running Gentoo -- we expect everything to be built from scratch and take three days!! :tongue:

* footnote: grrr. had to re-recompile the kernel because I didn't specify a setting under "Kernel Hacking"

[rabidpotatochip]

Oh yeah? :mad: Well, take this!

I recompiled my kernel and I'm currently (gack!) troubleshooting a b0rked xorg install. My gentoo machine had been up and running for so long I have no idea when I clobbered the xorg server (i.e. the old one was still running), so that'll teach *me* to upgrade my kernel and then reboot... :cursing:

And who let these ATI (radeon) driver binaries in here?? We're running Gentoo -- we expect everything to be built from scratch and take three days!! :tongue:

* footnote: grrr. had to re-recompile the kernel because I didn't specify a setting under "Kernel Hacking"

It's good to reboot every now and then though. Some patches can't be properly applied without a reboot. Thankfully, that number is far lower than a certain other OS. :rolleyes:

Edit: My parents' hard drive is failing so my mythbox install has to wait... I donated my hard drive for a brain transplant.

[Confuzius]

http://myths.e2bn.org/library/1142585298/scarecrow2.usermyth.jpg
What Chip's mythbox lacked in brains it made up for in aesthetics and anti-aviary properties.

[RichGem]

http://myths.e2bn.org/library/1142585298/scarecrow2.usermyth.jpg
What Chip's mythbox lacked in brains it made up for in aesthetics and anti-aviary properties.


Awesome Jordan. :clap: :clap: :clap:

lol x4 chipscale.

[rabidpotatochip]

http://myths.e2bn.org/library/1142585298/scarecrow2.usermyth.jpg
What Chip's mythbox lacked in brains it made up for in aesthetics and anti-aviary properties.

That it did. :lol::lol:

[RichGem]

daily linux

[OldSaw]

daily linux

Crap! I forgot my Linux.

[blackfoot]

My daily Linux, too.

[RichGem]

Cory! It's LINUX calling. Where are you? You never write, you never call. Just love 'em and leave 'em, is that it? :crying:


:biggrin:

[blackfoot]

Cory! It's LINUX calling. Where are you? You never write, you never call. Just love 'em and leave 'em, is that it? :crying:


:biggrin:



Speaking of which, where have you been?

[RichGem]

Speaking of which, where have you been?

posting away, quite dillagently, in fact.

[blackfoot]

posting away, quite dillagently, in fact.

Did you misspell that or am I not getting something?

[RichGem]

Did you misspell that or am I not getting something?



typo

[blackfoot]

typo

I was wondering about you. I haven't seen you or Chip. It was getting close to Oldsaw and I making up a prison adventure story about you two. I would hate to think Chip was teaching you the Hedge Trimmer. :lol:

[soapbox]

posting away, quite dillagently, in fact.

Um, where?

[rabidpotatochip]

Checking in with my Linux story...

Tried doing a distro upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 and as you may remember, my keyboard/mouse froze up pretty much all the time eventually leaving the whole system frozen. Anyway, it froze halfway through the upgrade and wreaked havoc, couldn't even boot into the system any more, but I managed to correct the situation it seems.

Now I'm posting from Jaunty on my desktop, I've been logged in for two hours and my keyboard/mouse still work!

[RichGem]

Checking in with my Linux story...

Tried doing a distro upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 and as you may remember, my keyboard/mouse froze up pretty much all the time eventually leaving the whole system frozen. Anyway, it froze halfway through the upgrade and wreaked havoc, couldn't even boot into the system any more, but I managed to correct the situation it seems.

Now I'm posting from Jaunty on my desktop, I've been logged in for two hours and my keyboard/mouse still work!

Tux is pleased.

[rabidpotatochip]

Tux is pleased.

Eeexcellent. I just got Conky running too, though I think I have to mess around with the configs a bit more.

Edit: I might see if I can get my USB wifi working and pentest my neighbors... :devil:

[blackfoot]

Suspicious. You two just happen to come back at the same time. :shifty:

[RichGem]

Eeexcellent. I just got Conky running too, though I think I have to mess around with the configs a bit more.

Edit: I might see if I can get my USB wifi working and pentest my neighbors... :devil:

Yeah. lol. *that* won't cause headaches, hair/fur loss, nausea, vomiting, stomach upset, or uncontrolled belching, now will it?

[rabidpotatochip]

Suspicious. You two just happen to come back at the same time. :shifty:

Who's the other one? :confused:

Good news, everyone! I finally found a home reno project I'm naturally good at. I am a bathtub recaulking god. :biggrin:

[RichGem]

Who's the other one? :confused:

Good news, everyone! I finally found a home reno project I'm naturally good at. I am a bathtub recaulking god. :biggrin:

just don't eat the caulking! it's not school paste!

edit: did you have your trusty multi-edger doo hickey from the Home Shopping Network?

[rabidpotatochip]

just don't eat the caulking! it's not school paste!

edit: did you have your trusty multi-edger doo hickey from the Home Shopping Network?

From the fumes you'd wonder... :biggrin:

Nope, I used masking tape to cordon off the area I didn't want covered in caulk. After I ran the bead I pulled up the tape, smoothed it out with my finger, and voila... instant awesome. It actually looks better than the original.

[RichGem]

From the fumes you'd wonder... :biggrin:

Nope, I used masking tape to cordon off the area I didn't want covered in caulk. After I ran the bead I pulled up the tape, smoothed it out with my finger, and voila... instant awesome. It actually looks better than the original.

nice. good job.

[blackfoot]

From the fumes you'd wonder... :biggrin:

Nope, I used masking tape to cordon off the area I didn't want covered in caulk. After I ran the bead I pulled up the tape, smoothed it out with my finger, and voila... instant awesome. It actually looks better than the original.

I never had the patience to do caulking correctly. And I hate caulking all over my fingers.

[soapbox]

From the fumes you'd wonder... :biggrin:

Nope, I used masking tape to cordon off the area I didn't want covered in caulk. After I ran the bead I pulled up the tape, smoothed it out with my finger, and voila... instant awesome. It actually looks better than the original.

Shopping networks be damned -- the finger is the all-time best caulking tool. I remember Dad showing me that trick when I was about 6 years old, and I was surprised that there wasn't a tool for it; but the lesson stuck with me.

[RichGem]

Shopping networks be damned -- the finger is the all-time best caulking tool. I remember Dad showing me that trick when I was about 6 years old, and I was surprised that there wasn't a tool for it; but the lesson stuck with me.

Yeah, but for just $19.95 and $30 shipping and 4-6 week wait.... how can any sane person refuse??!

[blackfoot]

Yeah, but for just $19.95 and $30 shipping and 4-6 week wait.... how can any sane person refuse??!

You would be stupid not to buy it!

[soapbox]

You would be stupid not to buy it!

Let's all fire up the GIMP* and start making new phun photos of the lying, whoring, ShamWow guy...





* because if you run Photoshop on Linux, that's cheating.

[RichGem]

Let's all fire up the GIMP* and start making new phun photos of the lying, whoring, ShamWow guy...





* because if you run Photoshop on Linux, you're a loser.


fixed that for ya.

[blackfoot]

Let's all fire up the GIMP* and start making new phun photos of the lying, whoring, ShamWow guy...





* because if you run Photoshop on Linux, that's cheating.

ShamWow! ShamWow! ShamWow!

[RichGem]

Let's all fire up the GIMP* and start making new phun photos of the lying, whoring, ShamWow guy...





* because if you run Photoshop on Linux, the ShamWow guy wins.


better fix

[DefaultAnon]

ShamWow! ShamWow! ShamWow!

Man, I have bought into that advertising hook line and sinker. The things i would do for a shamwow, terrible terrible things

[soapbox]

ShamWow! ShamWow! ShamWow!

Soon to be a classic:

[blackfoot]

I couldn't agree more.

[rabidpotatochip]

nice. good job.

Thank ya... Again, it's nice to finally be good at something home-based. There's a certain satisfaction in walking into your bathroom and noticing how great the caulking around the tub looks and realizing you did it yourself the night before.


I never had the patience to do caulking correctly. And I hate caulking all over my fingers.

Found a cheap trick for that too. We have some cheap latex gloves we occasionally use for food prep. I put one of those on.


Shopping networks be damned -- the finger is the all-time best caulking tool. I remember Dad showing me that trick when I was about 6 years old, and I was surprised that there wasn't a tool for it; but the lesson stuck with me.

The only lessons I remember my dad teaching me at that age are how to drive a tractor and how to change a tire on a semi... :lol:


Yeah, but for just $19.95 and $30 shipping and 4-6 week wait.... how can any sane person refuse??!

When you put it that way... it's no surprise I refused. :lol:


You would be stupid not to buy it!

Ah, the Chinese marketing method... "C'mon, be a man... buy this!!!" Man, I loved that store.


Let's all fire up the GIMP* and start making new phun photos of the lying, whoring, ShamWow guy...





* because if you run Photoshop on Linux, that's cheating.


fixed that for ya.

:lol:


ShamWow! ShamWow! ShamWow!

ShamWhat?


better fix

:lol:


Man, I have bought into that advertising hook line and sinker. The things i would do for a shamwow, terrible terrible things

Your disturbing comment amuses me on so many levels. :lol:


Soon to be a classic:

Allow me to provide another classic. :biggrin:

[blackfoot]

http://vinceoffer.net/wp-content/gallery/funny-shamwow-vince-images/vince-shamwow-picture.jpg

[DefaultAnon]

http://vinceoffer.net/wp-content/gallery/funny-shamwow-vince-images/vince-shamwow-picture.jpg


Obviously shopped. i can tell from the pixels, ect.

[rabidpotatochip]

Obviously shopped. i can tell from the pixels, ect.

+1. Clearly that shamwow was holding someone elses head and they photoshopped the shamwow guy in.

[soapbox]

Thank ya... Again, it's nice to finally be good at something home-based.

yadda yadda blah blah chiproll chiproll chiproll



Welcome back, and how. Yikes.

[blackfoot]

Obviously shopped. i can tell from the pixels, ect.

I thought the give away was the smile. A bodiless head never smiles like that.

[DefaultAnon]

+1. Clearly that shamwow was holding someone elses head and they photoshopped the shamwow guy in.

Clearly.

[Lynchmeister]

Cory! It's LINUX calling. Where are you? You never write, you never call. Just love 'em and leave 'em, is that it? :crying:


:biggrin:



Ok...why didn't you guys tell me that houses are so much work?!?!?


Speaking of which, where have you been?

Ah...the pot calling the kettle black, is he?

:lol:

[blackfoot]

Ok...why didn't you guys tell me that houses are so much work?!?!?

Um, I think we did. :rolleyes:

[RichGem]

Ok...why didn't you guys tell me that houses are so much work?!?!?



Ah...the pot calling the kettle black, is he?

:lol:


Nice new sig.
oh, and thanks for the move in vids. I've posted them as requested.

[blackfoot]

Proud owner of a 2009 MoneyPit!

On the bright side, they get more expensive as they age! :biggrin:

[rabidpotatochip]

Ok...why didn't you guys tell me that houses are so much work?!?!?



Ah...the pot calling the kettle black, is he?

:lol:

Here's a thought that will turn you grey... kids are supposed to be more work. :lol:

[blackfoot]

Here's a thought that will turn you grey... kids are supposed to be more work. :lol:

And, if they are anything like me, a lot more expensive. The local hospitals literally knew me by first name. Especially orthopedics. I knew that word and what it meant at a very young age.

[RichGem]

And, if they are anything like me, a lot more expensive. The local hospitals literally knew me by first name. Especially orthopedics. I knew that word and what it meant at a very young age.

Oh, so you were a spaz, eh?

:lol:

[Lynchmeister]

On the bright side, they get more expensive as they age! :biggrin:


Here's a thought that will turn you grey... kids are supposed to be more work. :lol:

I don't know whether I should laugh or cry! :eek:

[RichGem]

I don't know whether I should laugh or cry! :eek:

both. and drink heavily as needed.

:wink:

[rabidpotatochip]

I don't know whether I should laugh or cry! :eek:

First one, then the other.

[blackfoot]

Oh, so you were a spaz, eh?

:lol:

Just adventurous. It was so bad that once, while the doctor was putting my arm in a cast, I stopped him and told him he was doing it wrong. He was about to blow me off and then realized I was right. I was maybe nine or ten at the time.

[rabidpotatochip]

Just adventurous. It was so bad that once, while the doctor was putting my arm in a cast, I stopped him and told him he was doing it wrong. He was about to blow me off and then realized I was right. I was maybe nine or ten at the time.

And that's the story of how Blackfoot chose his career in emergency responding! The moniker "Blackfoot" comes from a hilarious incident where he tested whether you can put out a fire by stamping on it.

[Confuzius]

Chip, have you tried burning a cd with Brasero yet?
For me it's burning DVD's at less than 1x
More people having trouble here.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1150554

[blackfoot]

And that's the story of how Blackfoot chose his career in emergency responding! The moniker "Blackfoot" comes from a hilarious incident where he tested whether you can put out a fire by stamping on it.

Perhaps I should have wore shoes. :001_rolle

[rabidpotatochip]

Chip, have you tried burning a cd with Brasero yet?
For me it's burning DVD's at less than 1x
More people having trouble here.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1150554

Haven't tried burning at all. I'll give it a shot tonight since I have to copy everything off my parents' failing hard drive.


Perhaps I should have wore shoes. :001_rolle

:lol:

[Lynchmeister]

both. and drink heavily as needed.

:wink:


First one, then the other.

Hmm...I think I prefer Rich's methodology. :biggrin:

[blackfoot]

Hmm...I think I prefer Rich's methodology. :biggrin:

Rich does have moments of great wisdom. :a54:

[rabidpotatochip]

Hmm...I think I prefer Rich's methodology. :biggrin:

Hey, my method also allows heaving drinking... :lol:

[Lynchmeister]

Hey, my method also allows heaving drinking... :lol:

Interesting...for me personally, Rich's method usually ends up as your method...I wonder why that is...

[RichGem]

Interesting...for me personally, Rich's method usually ends up as your method...I wonder why that is...


lol

the term "copy cat" comes to mind. :lol:

(plus, my method saves time :thumbsup:)

[rabidpotatochip]

lol

the term "copy cat" comes to mind. :lol:

Huh... I was going to call you a plagiarist, but I guess that works too. :lol:

[RichGem]

Huh... I was going to call you a plagiarist, but I guess that works too. :lol:

yeah, um, nice try, but ya got that backwards.

[rabidpotatochip]

yeah, um, nice try, but ya got that backwards.

At least I think I'm clever. :tongue:

[RichGem]

At least I think I'm clever. :tongue:

Oh... I know I'm not clever, but everyone else *thinks* I am... soo..... :whistling:

[rabidpotatochip]

My :cursing: mouse still freezes in Ubuntu...

Anyway, wish me luck... I'm off to clone my parents' hard drive before it dies a screaming death...

[RichGem]

My :cursing: mouse still freezes in Ubuntu...

Anyway, wish me luck... I'm off to clone my parents' hard drive before it dies a screaming death...


oh noooooooooo not zomies!

oh wait... clones... ok, then, carry on.

[rabidpotatochip]

oh noooooooooo not zomies!

oh wait... clones... ok, then, carry on.

Yeah, looks like the drive has bad sectors... it's failing on me fast... can't clone the damn thing till I repair it at risk of screwing something else up and I can't access it much because I'm worried I'll lose data... argh...

[RichGem]

Yeah, looks like the drive has bad sectors... it's failing on me fast... can't clone the damn thing till I repair it at risk of screwing something else up and I can't access it much because I'm worried I'll lose data... argh...


dd could be your friend, but I guess the folks are still on that "other" os.

:sad:

[rabidpotatochip]

dd could be your friend, but I guess the folks are still on that "other" os.

:sad:

Yeah... chkdsk and partimage are my friends right now. dd couldn't even read the partition table.

[RichGem]

Yeah... chkdsk and partimage are my friends right now. dd couldn't even read the partition table.

d@mn

[soapbox]

Yeah... chkdsk and partimage are my friends right now. dd couldn't even read the partition table.


d@mn

Gah! That's bad juju right there. I trust dd with almost anything -- it's a bit copier, for cryin' out loud!

[RichGem]

Gah! That's bad juju right there. I trust dd with almost anything -- it's a bit copier, for cryin' out loud!

If Jesse's worried about this, I'm down right scared. :scared:

[Confuzius]

Haven't tried burning at all. I'll give it a shot tonight since I have to copy everything off my parents' failing hard drive.

FYI I installed Gnomebaker and its burning at full speed, so it seems to be a brasero issue...
I wish they made a gnome version of k3b, just because I'm trying to keep this install free of kde bloat for now.

[blackfoot]

What happened here? I leave for a few hours and you guys get back on topic.

[DefaultAnon]

how dare they!

[Confuzius]

Countdown until putting the hard drive in a ziplock bag in the freezer...

[soapbox]

Countdown until putting the hard drive in a ziplock bag in the freezer...

That never works! Use the oven instead, Chip!

[Confuzius]

I've actually had it work on clinkers before.

The oven as we all know is reserved for optical media; gnomebaker, burning a cd, etc the connection is obvious.

[RichGem]

Countdown until putting the hard drive in a ziplock bag in the freezer...

SO that's why your hard drive smells like frozen broccoli.

:biggrin:

[rabidpotatochip]

Gah! That's bad juju right there. I trust dd with almost anything -- it's a bit copier, for cryin' out loud!

Hrm, I've never looked at using dd like that... you've put me on an interesting path.

I cannibalized my home system last night and have the offending hard drive in there... I'm using unstoppable copier (Windows only, sorry guys) right now to get what I can but this drive is in rough shape... I can't even mount the partitions in Linux.

[RichGem]

Hrm, I've never looked at using dd like that... you've put me on an interesting path.

I cannibalized my home system last night and have the offending hard drive in there... I'm using unstoppable copier (Windows only, sorry guys) right now to get what I can but this drive is in rough shape... I can't even mount the partitions in Linux.

I assumed you knew.. worth reading up on for next time (or now) via the man page. "dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/xxx/blahblah.iso" etc. .... there's an option IIRC to skip what it can't read but to continue on... you end up with a clone minus the bad bits. Also LXF Mag recommends cloning, fixing the clone, and then moving to a good drive... that way you're not working directly on corrupted data which might be expiring as you work.

[rabidpotatochip]

I assumed you knew.. worth reading up on for next time (or now) via the man page. "dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/xxx/blahblah.iso" etc. .... there's an option IIRC to skip what it can't read but to continue on... you end up with a clone minus the bad bits. Also LXF Mag recommends cloning, fixing the clone, and then moving to a good drive... that way you're not working directly on corrupted data which might be expiring as you work.

I got caught up in trying to use ntfsclone, partimage, clonezilla, etc. ad nauseam. There's a lot of pressure on me to fix this so the creative part of my brain took the night off...

My plan was always to clone it to a spare drive I had, fix it and clone it to another drive. The shape this drive is in I'm minimizing access as much as possible.

You guys = awesome tech support, btw.

[Confuzius]

Zoikes.

I read an article a while ago about a pro data recovery firm that offered free service to university students in echange for any piece of school branded shwag. Their office was full of pennants and hats. We're taling hats worth $20k worth of data recovery.

The guys at the data recovery firm reasoned that it's good advertizing and whoever's master's or phd thesis they recovered wouldn't soon forget them if they ever found themselves professionally in need of data recovery.

Unfortunately I forget the name of the company... =\

[soapbox]

I assumed you knew.. worth reading up on for next time (or now) via the man page. "dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/xxx/blahblah.iso" etc. .... there's an option IIRC to skip what it can't read but to continue on... you end up with a clone minus the bad bits.

Nicely put.


Also LXF Mag recommends cloning, fixing the clone, and then moving to a good drive... that way you're not working directly on corrupted data which might be expiring as you work.

Yes, definite do this if you can, Chip -- this way you don't wear out (what's left of) the drive with multiple repair attempts.

[RichGem]

I assumed you knew.. worth reading up on for next time (or now) via the man page. "dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/xxx/blahblah.iso" etc. .... there's an option IIRC to skip what it can't read but to continue on... you end up with a clone minus the bad bits. Also LXF Mag recommends cloning, fixing the clone, and then moving to a good drive... that way you're not working directly on corrupted data which might be expiring as you work.

Oh... then you can either write out the iso directly to a new HD or mount it as a loopback, fix it, then write it to a real HD.


I got caught up in trying to use ntfsclone, partimage, clonezilla, etc. ad nauseam. There's a lot of pressure on me to fix this so the creative part of my brain took the night off...

My plan was always to clone it to a spare drive I had, fix it and clone it to another drive. The shape this drive is in I'm minimizing access as much as possible.

You guys = awesome tech support, btw.

dd is your friend (or can be); it doesn't care what OS your on or what filesystem is in play if you option it correctly.

As to the tech support. :blush: I take no responsibility for any greater mess I cause or don't cause. :lol:


Nicely put.


thanks.

[rabidpotatochip]

Oh... then you can either write out the iso directly to a new HD or mount it as a loopback, fix it, then write it to a real HD.



dd is your friend (or can be); it doesn't care what OS your on or what filesystem is in play if you option it correctly.

As to the tech support. :blush: I take no responsibility for any greater mess I cause or don't cause. :lol:



thanks.

I'll tell you what I tell others: "free advice never comes with a warranty." :lol:

Anyway, reading up on dd it looks like I'll have to do something to the tune of:

dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sdb conv=noerror,sync
That should do a direct copy and replace bad sectors with null padding. Anyone want to check my work? (I still have two SATA drives in my rig so sdb is correct)

Edit: Just found ddrescue, anyone have experience with it?

[RichGem]

I'll tell you what I tell others: "free advice never comes with a warranty." :lol:

Anyway, reading up on dd it looks like I'll have to do something to the tune of:

dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sdb conv=noerror,syncThat should do a direct copy and replace bad sectors with null padding. Anyone want to check my work? (I still have two SATA drives in my rig so sdb is correct)

Edit: Just found ddrescue, anyone have experience with it?

looks right, iirc. you may want to rethink the "sync" option tho. I recall that article mentioning it as a useful option, but then saying it might also cause some unreadable output and therefore you might do better without it. maybe try it both ways just in case?

I have no experience with ddrescue.

[soapbox]

There's a lot of pressure on me to fix this so the creative part of my brain took the night off...

You guys = awesome tech support, btw.

:blush: Thanks. Working as I do in a place where "thank you" is usually not uttered with a tone of gratitude, it's nice to help folks who appreciate it instead of blaming me for their tech problems.


I'll tell you what I tell others: "free advice never comes with a warranty." :lol:

Anyway, reading up on dd it looks like I'll have to do something to the tune of:

dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sdb conv=noerror,sync
That should do a direct copy and replace bad sectors with null padding. Anyone want to check my work? (I still have two SATA drives in my rig so sdb is correct)


Without checking too closely, yes, that's correct, and thanks for the note about two SATA drives.


Edit: Just found ddrescue (https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/ddrescue/), anyone have experience with it?

No, but it looks very cool. Seems like it ought to be on the partimage ISO (http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page) but I don't think it is.

[soapbox]

Anyway, reading up on dd it looks like I'll have to do something to the tune of:

dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sdb conv=noerror,sync
That should do a direct copy and replace bad sectors with null padding. Anyone want to check my work?

Oh, also, if you ever do a full-disk cloning I think you need to specify strictly that you want to copy the MBR too:


dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1

(note that this command ONLY copies the MBR). I think that the default behavior for dd isn't to copy the MBR, but now I'm talking about cloning rather than disk recovery, so this is just a side note.

[Confuzius]

Just out of curiosity, how big is the drive you're recovering, and what brand is it?
(I have like, zero brand loyalty in harddrives, but I'm always curious what fails.)

[rabidpotatochip]

:blush: Thanks. Working as I do in a place where "thank you" is usually not uttered with a tone of gratitude, it's nice to help folks who appreciate it instead of blaming me for their tech problems.



Without checking too closely, yes, that's correct, and thanks for the note about two SATA drives.



No, but it looks very cool. Seems like it ought to be on the partimage ISO (http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page) but I don't think it is.

I think it's important to give people credit when they make your life easier. Thanking and being thanked both go a long way. :biggrin:

Apparently ddrescue is included in the System Rescue CD. I'm going to download a newer ISO of it tonight and test it out in a VM to see what I get.


Oh, also, if you ever do a full-disk cloning I think you need to specify strictly that you want to copy the MBR too:


dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1

(note that this command ONLY copies the MBR). I think that the default behavior for dd isn't to copy the MBR, but now I'm talking about cloning rather than disk recovery, so this is just a side note.

I'll run the MBR copy after just to be sure. At this point I doubt I can do more damage.


Just out of curiosity, how big is the drive you're recovering, and what brand is it?
(I have like, zero brand loyalty in harddrives, but I'm always curious what fails.)

I know for sure it's a 160GB drive because the 160GB drive I was trying to copy everything onto is slightly smaller by a few megabytes (???? !!!!! :cursing:). As for the brand, I think it's Maxtor. I'm recovering about five years worth of data but I think the drive is actually six to seven years old.

[Confuzius]

Cool. So your parents getting some external hard drives for Christmas?

Also I just stumbledon these cool conky settings, I know it's not priority now, but you can reference it later. ;)
http://www.linuxhaxor.net/2009/05/07/8-beautiful-conky-desktop-monitor-setup/

[RichGem]

Cool. So your parents getting you some major bling some external hard drives for Christmas?

Also I just stumbledon these cool conky settings, I know it's not priority now, but you can reference it later. ;)
http://www.linuxhaxor.net/2009/05/07/8-beautiful-conky-desktop-monitor-setup/


ftfy

[rabidpotatochip]

Cool. So your parents getting some external hard drives for Christmas?

Also I just stumbledon these cool conky settings, I know it's not priority now, but you can reference it later. ;)
http://www.linuxhaxor.net/2009/05/07/8-beautiful-conky-desktop-monitor-setup/

Yeah, I was going to build them a NAS anyway, may as well get started now.

Those are some nice setups for Conky, definitely going to check them out tomorrow (at the earliest...).


ftfy

Rich ftw! :lol:

[Confuzius]

My upcoming saturday is now going to be devoted to virus removal/cleaning/backing up/reformatting my girlfriend's parents machine!

Apparently they've got a 500gb external drive to make my job easier... it's been sitting unopened in it's box for a year.

[rabidpotatochip]

My upcoming saturday is now going to be devoted to virus removal/cleaning/backing up/reformatting my girlfriend's parents machine!

Apparently they've got a 500gb external drive to make my job easier... it's been sitting unopened in it's box for a year.

Yuck... At least you have a drive that can hold everything.

That's what really sucks about being "good with computers", you end up doing a lot of grunt work for relatives.

[rabidpotatochip]

Hey, while we're in here discussing baking hard drives...

Does anybody have experience with toasters? Are they something you'd recommend over an external hard drive?

[RichGem]

Hey, while we're in here discussing baking hard drives...

Does anybody have experience with toasters? Are they something you'd recommend over an external hard drive?


Only if warm bread is your goal, as opposed to storing electronic data.

[burnwood]

Hey, while we're in here discussing baking hard drives...

Does anybody have experience with toasters? Are they something you'd recommend over an external hard drive?

a good linux jam goes well with toast.

[RichGem]

a good linux jam goes well with toast.

:eek: Cruelty to penguins!

[soapbox]

Hey, while we're in here discussing baking hard drives...

Does anybody have experience with toasters? Are they something you'd recommend over an external hard drive?

My overall good experience with an external USB adapter was soured when I found out (the frustratingly awful way) that it doesn't support drives larger than 500 GB.

Nice planning, jackasses.

OTOH, if you have a need to rotate your storage to offsite frequently, they look like a great help.

[soapbox]

You guys should go play in your other sand box.....:biggrin:

<pout>that thread was no fun anyway...</pout>


Based on your avatar, I'd have to go with something from one of my favorite episodes of ST:TNG: Darmok. :biggrin:


Didn't he have a tv exercise program in the late '80s/early '90s? Oh wait, that was Gilad. My bad.

Did he film the show at Tanagra? Or Shaka (before the walls fell?)

[RichGem]

My overall good experience with an external USB adapter was soured when I found out (the frustratingly awful way) that it doesn't support drives larger than 500 GB.

Nice planning, jackasses.


So, let me guess... you're a tad upset by this? :biggrin:


<pout>that thread was no fun anyway...</pout>





Did he film the show at Tanagra? Or Shaka (before the walls fell?)

Motion to change Jesse's title to "Trekkie Eyebleach Nerd."

:wink:

[soapbox]

Motion to change Jesse's title to "Trekkie Eyebleach Nerd."

I've...been...called...worse!* :frown:













*There. are. four. lights!

[rabidpotatochip]

<pout>that thread was no fun anyway...</pout>





Did he film the show at Tanagra? Or Shaka (before the walls fell?)

Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra :wink:


So, let me guess... you're a tad upset by this? :biggrin:



Motion to change Jesse's title to "Trekkie Eyebleach Nerd."

:wink:

He did seem a little miffed... :lol:


I've...been...called...worse!* :frown:













*There. are. four. lights!

Loved that episode too.

[rabidpotatochip]

After all that crap I successfully copied everything with Unstoppable Copier while I was at work. Or at least the important data was retrieved. In the meanwhile, they bought a new computer and I get to keep the old one! SCOOOOORE! So yeah, I have a new toy... :biggrin: