Linux Mint

[RichGem]

I learned Linux the hard way. While MUDding, I was talking to someone and they mentioned Linux, so I installed Redhat 5.0 trying to dual boot my Win 95 partition and somehow borked my boot partition. and luckily I made a install floppy. Took me a month to figure out


rpm -i --force what-ever-was-before-grub.rpm
By that time Windows was bye-bye.


LILO

(LInux LOder)

[RichGem]

Behold the first 20 pages of this thread! ShaZam!!! :lol:




Well played, my friend, well played. Say, has the hair grown back that you had to tear out in those first 20 pages? (oh, and yes, the penguin is back)

[Zeni]

LILO

(LInux LOder)

AH that right Grub is so much easier than LILO was.

The ever help full

LIL

while booting. :confused:

[soapbox]

AH that right Grub is so much easier than LILO was.

The ever help full

LIL

while booting. :confused:

Yeah Grub is da bomb. I had to use SILO (not LILO) for a while on an old sparc E250 until it finally died -- that was a freaking nightmare. Bleah! :mad:

[chickpea]

Back in my day we didn't have any fancy "boot loaders" and relied upon complicated incantations and fire dances to load our linux!

You guys with your "master boot records" don't know how good you have it. Now eat your vegetables!:biggrin:

[OldSaw]

I also dealt with the dreaded Broadcom card for a LONG time before finally getting linux to work. I have the 4321 card (a/b/g/n + bluetooth), and tried many times before I got it working. There are two pieces of advice that I can lend....

First of all, you'll need a driver. I think you said that you have an HP laptop (as I do). Don't bother with the HP driver for the broadcom card. Download the broadcom driver from the DELL website. They look exactly the same when download them, but the Dell worked, and the HP didn't for me, using the exact same process.... Weird, I know....

Secondly, I was never able to compile or install ndiswrapper. Go ahead and yell at me... I just couldn't do it. Anyways, The only solace I found was in Mandriva linux. they have a very nice network manager setup that made all the difference for me. Once the install is complete, restart and point the network pop-up to your newly downloaded driver from dell (bcmwl5 in the driver folder) , and mine started right up.

After 9 months of trying, in an apartment that only has wifi, no hard line, I finally got it working. In the end, just keep trying and you'll get it. But for me personally, the one thing that did it for me was Mandriva's amazing wireless setup. I had a terrible time with other distributions for months, but I'd honestly say that setting up Mandriva was easier than windows, once I had the right driver.

Thanks.

When I ran Mandriva from the live CD it instantly recognized the hardware, but said I needed the firmware to run it.

So now I am thinking that I should try to hardwire my two laptops together via ethernet and set up a network so I can access the internet on the Linux machine. Hopefully this will make installing any firmware easier, rather than downloading, burning and loading into the other machine.

Now I know why Linux is so resistant to viruses. It can't get a virus if it can't connect.

[OldSaw]

I also dealt with the dreaded Broadcom card for a LONG time before finally getting linux to work. I have the 4321 card (a/b/g/n + bluetooth), and tried many times before I got it working. There are two pieces of advice that I can lend....

First of all, you'll need a driver. I think you said that you have an HP laptop (as I do). Don't bother with the HP driver for the broadcom card. Download the broadcom driver from the DELL website. They look exactly the same when download them, but the Dell worked, and the HP didn't for me, using the exact same process.... Weird, I know....

Secondly, I was never able to compile or install ndiswrapper. Go ahead and yell at me... I just couldn't do it. Anyways, The only solace I found was in Mandriva linux. they have a very nice network manager setup that made all the difference for me. Once the install is complete, restart and point the network pop-up to your newly downloaded driver from dell (bcmwl5 in the driver folder) , and mine started right up.

After 9 months of trying, in an apartment that only has wifi, no hard line, I finally got it working. In the end, just keep trying and you'll get it. But for me personally, the one thing that did it for me was Mandriva's amazing wireless setup. I had a terrible time with other distributions for months, but I'd honestly say that setting up Mandriva was easier than windows, once I had the right driver.

How do I download this from the Dell website without a Dell PC model and serial number to use.

[burnwood]

were you guys threatened that you better start talking Linux or else???



edit: No linux

[OldSaw]

I also dealt with the dreaded Broadcom card for a LONG time before finally getting linux to work. I have the 4321 card (a/b/g/n + bluetooth), and tried many times before I got it working. There are two pieces of advice that I can lend....

First of all, you'll need a driver. I think you said that you have an HP laptop (as I do). Don't bother with the HP driver for the broadcom card. Download the broadcom driver from the DELL website. They look exactly the same when download them, but the Dell worked, and the HP didn't for me, using the exact same process.... Weird, I know....

Secondly, I was never able to compile or install ndiswrapper. Go ahead and yell at me... I just couldn't do it. Anyways, The only solace I found was in Mandriva linux. they have a very nice network manager setup that made all the difference for me. Once the install is complete, restart and point the network pop-up to your newly downloaded driver from dell (bcmwl5 in the driver folder) , and mine started right up.

After 9 months of trying, in an apartment that only has wifi, no hard line, I finally got it working. In the end, just keep trying and you'll get it. But for me personally, the one thing that did it for me was Mandriva's amazing wireless setup. I had a terrible time with other distributions for months, but I'd honestly say that setting up Mandriva was easier than windows, once I had the right driver.

I found the 4321 on the Dell website, but I have a 4318. Any thoughts?

[OldSaw]

Thought I was running the live CD version of Fedora, but it appears to be doing a full install for the past half hour. My reading isn't catching up fast enough with where I want to play. :mad2::sod:

[OldSaw]

Behold the first 20 pages of this thread! ShaZam!!! :lol:

OK, I'm off to the first 20 pages.

[OldSaw]

were you guys threatened that you better start talking Linux or else???



edit: No linux

I made French toast for breakfast. :drool:

[OldSaw]

If you have a second computer you can bring along for the ride you can be installing on one and reading documentation/pretending to work on the other. This is also where two monitors come in handy if you have a lot of stuff open all the time.

Someday... I'll have that second monitor... :001_wub:

This is what I am doing. I don't have to do much pretending though as I am not currently working.

[OldSaw]

Like a moth to the flame, here I go. Thanks, Rich. I'll be back shortly to report.

More like a stadium light on steroids. Why am I doing this?

[OldSaw]

Just in case anyone is actually following this and cares. I have nuked my HDD twice now and am considering doing so again. Is there an easier way to uninstall any of these distros? DBAN works, but it takes two and a half hours each time.

This is a nice thing about using a dedicated machine. Every time I get frustrated I can just nuke it and start over. However, at some point I have to settle down with one and make it work. :a53:

[burnwood]

I made French toast for breakfast. :drool:

that is why I love stalking you Dennis. you are my man.

[soapbox]

Just in case anyone is actually following this and cares. I have nuked my HDD twice now and am considering doing so again. Is there an easier way to uninstall any of these distros? DBAN works, but it takes two and a half hours each time.

This is a nice thing about using a dedicated machine. Every time I get frustrated I can just nuke it and start over. However, at some point I have to settle down with one and make it work. :a53:

You don't have to do the ultra-secure erase with DBAN every time; you can format the disk using fdisk using the Ubuntu live CD/DVD and that's plenty.

[Lynchmeister]

Well played, my friend, well played. Say, has the hair grown back that you had to tear out in those first 20 pages? (oh, and yes, the penguin is back)

Yep, hair's back just in time to watch Dennis pull his out. :lol:


More like a stadium light on steroids. Why am I doing this?

:biggrin:

[gugi]

Now I know why Linux is so resistant to viruses. It can't get a virus if it can't connect.
You are wrong, and I think you're better off not making me prove it to you :tongue:


Just in case anyone is actually following this and cares. I have nuked my HDD twice now and am considering doing so again. Is there an easier way to uninstall any of these distros? DBAN works, but it takes two and a half hours each time.

This is a nice thing about using a dedicated machine. Every time I get frustrated I can just nuke it and start over. However, at some point I have to settle down with one and make it work. :a53:
I care and I follow. You already learned that quick format is fine. And you can nuke and start over even w/o dedicated machine... As long as you keep nuking to partitions and correct ones...

Ah, broadcom wireless.... no idea dennis, I got over these things many years ago. Now I just use hardware that works.... ipw2000.

You can always do the suggested copulation of the two computers via... yes you are right Lynchmeister an ethernet cable... make sure your cable is crossover or the bits won't be crossing over at all....

Well I'm not very helpful but I'm cheering for you Dennis... and you're still on page 2.... good part is that 20 pages contain 4 celebratory posts!!!!

[Lynchmeister]

You are wrong, and I think you're better off not making me prove it to you :tongue:


I care and I follow. You already learned that quick format is fine. And you can nuke and start over even w/o dedicated machine... As long as you keep nuking to partitions and correct ones...

Ah, broadcom wireless.... no idea dennis, I got over these things many years ago. Now I just use hardware that works.... ipw2000.

You can always do the suggested copulation of the two computers via... yes you are right Lynchmeister an ethernet cable... make sure your cable is crossover or the bits won't be crossing over at all....

Well I'm not very helpful but I'm cheering for you Dennis... and you're still on page 2.... good part is that 20 pages contain 4 celebratory posts!!!!

:biggrin:

In all seriousness, though, Gugi is the guy you want in your corner. He was patient enough to stay up till something like 3am and do some major "Virtual Linux Installation Hand-holding." If he were to ever do the same for you someday, the fact that you won't be drunk by the end of it can only be a good thing. :lol:

[homebrewer]

I found the 4321 on the Dell website, but I have a 4318. Any thoughts?

Use that one. I believe that I had the driver for the 4311, but I have the 4321 chip. I believe that all of the 4300 series chips can use the same driver. If you still have a windows machine, download the file, extract it, and load it onto a USB thumb drive. Once you start up Mandriva, just point to network manager to the file named bcmwl5 (should be in the DRIVER folder once you unzip the package). Should work just fine.

One thing I found when searching for issues is that the chip doesn't care if it is a 4311, 4318, 4321, etc. I ended up figuring out to search for "43xx", and found much more information.

Hope it works!

[krawlx]

I'm feeling left out of this thread recently, but don't take my silence as a white flag in the continuing Linux battle. My keyboard has yet to be fixed.

Last Thursday I decided to make the short journey to the after service center for my laptop. Let me tell you, finding addresses here in Korea is a nightmare. The streets do not have names, and the numbers on buildings are not organized in the Western style. That is, if you walk down a street and one building is number 50 that doesn't guarantee the next building is number 52. Ugh. So, I send 45 minutes walking the same street up and down, as there's no sign for the office I'm going to, and finally find a local real estate office and they help me out.

I get to the building and as I'm waiting for the elevator the security guard asks me where I'm going, which is normal, and I tell him the fourth floor. He says ok and upp I go. I arrive, feeling good that it's about to be fixed, and then turn the door knob. Locked. I am a little peeved as the hours are posted on the door and I'm there within those hours. So, I call the office and no answer. I wait....and wait....and wait. 30 minutes later i go back down and as I'm walking out the security guard sees me and I tell him there's no one there. He replies, "Yea....they're on vacation." WHAT??! I was so annoyed. He KNEW that's where I was going, but didn't even bother to tell me. I'm sorry....but what a *^$@. (That can be any four letter word you like.) I checked the site of the after service place and no mention of a vacation. I check the site of the home company. No mention of their vacation. All in all....a waste of a morning.

[OldSaw]

You are wrong, and I think you're better off not making me prove it to you :tongue:


I care and I follow. You already learned that quick format is fine. And you can nuke and start over even w/o dedicated machine... As long as you keep nuking to partitions and correct ones...

Ah, broadcom wireless.... no idea dennis, I got over these things many years ago. Now I just use hardware that works.... ipw2000.

You can always do the suggested copulation of the two computers via... yes you are right Lynchmeister an ethernet cable... make sure your cable is crossover or the bits won't be crossing over at all....

Well I'm not very helpful but I'm cheering for you Dennis... and you're still on page 2.... good part is that 20 pages contain 4 celebratory posts!!!!

The Broadcom chipset is built-in, so that's why I want to stay with it. Ideally I will connect to the internet through the EVDO wireless internet card and then my Windoze based computers will be able to connect through the wireless Broadcom wifi, that's my goal.

I've actually made it to several celebratory posts in the first 20 pages, including the fish tank.

[OldSaw]

Use that one. I believe that I had the driver for the 4311, but I have the 4321 chip. I believe that all of the 4300 series chips can use the same driver. If you still have a windows machine, download the file, extract it, and load it onto a USB thumb drive. Once you start up Mandriva, just point to network manager to the file named bcmwl5 (should be in the DRIVER folder once you unzip the package). Should work just fine.

One thing I found when searching for issues is that the chip doesn't care if it is a 4311, 4318, 4321, etc. I ended up figuring out to search for "43xx", and found much more information.

Hope it works!

Thanks, I'll see what I can do about downloading that while traveling across the UP, (wife is driving).

[OldSaw]

Just crossed the Mackinac bridge and I can definitely see 3000 posts on the horizon from up there. :lol:

[OldSaw]

Use that one. I believe that I had the driver for the 4311, but I have the 4321 chip. I believe that all of the 4300 series chips can use the same driver. If you still have a windows machine, download the file, extract it, and load it onto a USB thumb drive. Once you start up Mandriva, just point to network manager to the file named bcmwl5 (should be in the DRIVER folder once you unzip the package). Should work just fine.

One thing I found when searching for issues is that the chip doesn't care if it is a 4311, 4318, 4321, etc. I ended up figuring out to search for "43xx", and found much more information.

Hope it works!

Do you have a link? I have been unable to find it again.

[OldSaw]

I'm Running Linux And I'm Wireless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

OK, which driver worked for you? Where did you get it? And how did you install it?

Links would be helpful. If it is the wl_apsta.o file, I already downloaded it and another one that I don't know what to do with.

[Zeni]

I'm feeling left out of this thread recently, but don't take my silence as a white flag in the continuing Linux battle. My keyboard has yet to be fixed.

Last Thursday I decided to make the short journey to the after service center for my laptop. Let me tell you, finding addresses here in Korea is a nightmare. The streets do not have names, and the numbers on buildings are not organized in the Western style. That is, if you walk down a street and one building is number 50 that doesn't guarantee the next building is number 52. Ugh. So, I send 45 minutes walking the same street up and down, as there's no sign for the office I'm going to, and finally find a local real estate office and they help me out.

I get to the building and as I'm waiting for the elevator the security guard asks me where I'm going, which is normal, and I tell him the fourth floor. He says ok and upp I go. I arrive, feeling good that it's about to be fixed, and then turn the door knob. Locked. I am a little peeved as the hours are posted on the door and I'm there within those hours. So, I call the office and no answer. I wait....and wait....and wait. 30 minutes later i go back down and as I'm walking out the security guard sees me and I tell him there's no one there. He replies, "Yea....they're on vacation." WHAT??! I was so annoyed. He KNEW that's where I was going, but didn't even bother to tell me. I'm sorry....but what a *^$@. (That can be any four letter word you like.) I checked the site of the after service place and no mention of a vacation. I check the site of the home company. No mention of their vacation. All in all....a waste of a morning.

This is an auto-reply to the forum message.

Thank you for posting to this thread. We will be back after a short vacation around the world in 80 days. See when we get back!

[OldSaw]

Wow! I just caught up to where I first got hooked into this thread, (after stopping to get a pasty for lunch), way back at post #539. By this point Cory is off into C and C++ programming land and has completely forgotten about the whole wireless thing.


Linux Mint? Is this soap or cream? Does it come in a tube or a tub?

Sorry I haven't taken the time to read the 500+ posts to find out first before asking, but I would like to know before I fall asleep.

Thanks Cory, I'm sure you will give me the short answer in 12 posts or less.

[OldSaw]

I'll do you one better, Richard. I'm posting this from Linux Mint!...wireless to boot! Granted I'm going off of a live cd I burned earlier today, but...now I know that I can use Mint on my laptop and successfully use the WiFi!!

It's an exciting day in the Lynch household...and with a name like that I'm sure that it being St. Patrick's Day weekend, it's all just a big coincidence. :wink::biggrin:

Show off.

[OldSaw]

Use that one. I believe that I had the driver for the 4311, but I have the 4321 chip. I believe that all of the 4300 series chips can use the same driver. If you still have a windows machine, download the file, extract it, and load it onto a USB thumb drive. Once you start up Mandriva, just point to network manager to the file named bcmwl5 (should be in the DRIVER folder once you unzip the package). Should work just fine.

One thing I found when searching for issues is that the chip doesn't care if it is a 4311, 4318, 4321, etc. I ended up figuring out to search for "43xx", and found much more information.

Hope it works!

Do you have a link? I have been unable to find it again.

[OldSaw]

Just crossed the Cheddar Curtain, I mean the Menominee river.

[homebrewer]

Do you have a link? I have been unable to find it again.

PM me your email address. I couldn't find a link directly to it, so I've uploaded it to my Skydrive. I'm not sure if the driver is any type of proprietary, so I'd rather not make it public unless I hear other wise.

As soon as I get your email address, I'll make it available to you.

[homebrewer]

Nevermind... I just made the folder public to save you an extra step. I figure if I downloaded it from Dell's site, it is freely available to the public.

Broadcom Drivers (http://cid-751b278bc8275327.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Broadcom)

You'll need both files on your flash drive, but I can't for the life of me remember which one you need to point the network manager to. I want to say that it is the .inf file, but I could be wrong. Let us know how it turns out!

[OldSaw]

Nevermind... I just made the folder public to save you an extra step. I figure if I downloaded it from Dell's site, it is freely available to the public.

Broadcom Drivers (http://cid-751b278bc8275327.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Broadcom)

You'll need both files on your flash drive, but I can't for the life of me remember which one you need to point the network manager to. I want to say that it is the .inf file, but I could be wrong. Let us know how it turns out!

Thanks. The wireless thing is starting to sound easy compared to the EVDO.

[krawlx]

This is an auto-reply to the forum message.

Thank you for posting to this thread. We will be back after a short vacation around the world in 80 days. See when we get back!

That is just cruel!

[Zeni]

That is just cruel!

Sorry. :wink:

[chickpea]

Nevermind... I just made the folder public to save you an extra step. I figure if I downloaded it from Dell's site, it is freely available to the public.

Broadcom Drivers (http://cid-751b278bc8275327.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Broadcom)

You'll need both files on your flash drive, but I can't for the life of me remember which one you need to point the network manager to. I want to say that it is the .inf file, but I could be wrong. Let us know how it turns out!


You are right, it's the .inf, but you need BOTH the .inf and the .sys in the SAME folder. ndiswrapper will figure the rest out.

[devnull]

Ah, NDIS wrappers. Fun stuff!

Thats what makes real men of linux genius! :lol:

Also double check your chipset. I have had a few that I thought were broadcom and ended up being atheros 5004 or 5008. (They were sold as being broadcom. Go figure!) :001_rolle

[homebrewer]

I had the same issue when I first started... The box my laptop came in said that it was the 4321 chipset, and Linux also saw it as the 4321. For some reason my Vista partition sees the chip as being something different. Doesn't really matter since it work on both systems now, just kinda strange that Broadcom only seems to support windows, but can't even get it right in that case....

[soapbox]

Wow, I've been gone for four days and you guys manage two measly pages? What's wrong with you jokers? Sheesh, I gotta maintain the Linux Mint pipeline all myself?

[soapbox]

This is an auto-reply to the forum message.

Thank you for posting to this thread. We will be back after a short vacation around the world in 80 days. See when we get back!

Awesome. Well done, Erik. :001_smile

[OldSaw]

Wow, I've been gone for four days and you guys manage two measly pages? What's wrong with you jokers? Sheesh, I gotta maintain the Linux Mint pipeline all myself?

Umm... I'm trying. I haven't had much opportunity lately to try any actual Linux stuff, but when I did post about it the thread sort of died. Hmmm... I'm starting to feel unwanted. :confused:

[soapbox]

Umm... I'm trying. I haven't had much opportunity lately to try any actual Linux stuff, but when I did post about it the thread sort of died. Hmmm... I'm starting to feel unwanted. :confused:

It didn't die -- you got plenty of feedback, and you apparently solved at least a few of your problems -- now get back to yapping about the Cheddar curtain, or find some new Linux problems, or something! :001_smile

[Mr. Gillette]

Keep on topic...ON TOPIC.

Mr. Gillette came out of the woods for a few minutes to check emails. I'm in a hot non-airconditioned library with a librarian glaring at me...ready to head back into the woods.

STOP TALKING ABOUT ME!

Poor Mr. GIllete (Linux, by the way). I bought and received a B&B essential, and I forgot to bring it. I even forgot to bring ANY brush...drove 30 miles to a drugstore where for 9.99 I could buy the crappiest Ever-ready badger brush imaginable.

Still...nice weather, bear...bare...eagles...a couple of ducks accidentally flew into shotgun range...it must be duck season somewhere...fish...

LINUX.:lol::lol:

[soapbox]

Mr. Gillette came out of the woods for a few minutes to check emails. I'm in a hot non-airconditioned library with a librarian glaring at me...ready to head back into the woods.

You probably don't smell very good. The glare was probably attached to what her nose was telling her.


STOP TALKING ABOUT ME!

NO.


Poor Mr. GIllete (Linux, by the way). I bought and received a B&B essential, and I forgot to bring it. I even forgot to bring ANY brush...drove 30 miles to a drugstore where for 9.99 I could buy the crappiest Ever-ready badger brush imaginable.

Uphill, both ways, in the snow...



Still...nice weather, bear...bare...eagles...a couple of ducks accidentally flew into shotgun range...it must be duck season somewhere...fish...


Congratulations, but only if you ate what you killed. :001_smile

[burnwood]

electric has been out at the house going on its third day now. and I agree with Soapbox, I thought Linux had passed away. It was all the way on the second page in the Barber Shop for goodness sake.

notice the word Linux in above sentence. On topic.

[Zeni]

Keep on topic...ON TOPIC.

Mr. Gillette came out of the woods for a few minutes to check emails. I'm in a hot non-airconditioned library with a librarian glaring at me...ready to head back into the woods.



Must of been that Librarians are Kinky T-shirt.

[RichGem]

Linux will never die. BTW, I'm posting from my new LINUX (yes really) laptop.

[Zeni]

Minix

[RichGem]

Minix

*that* is dead....well, mostly.... if it was ever alive to begin with.

[Zeni]

*that* is dead....well, mostly.... if it was ever alive to begin with.

Hey they're on version 3, while wer're stuck on 2.26.

What ever happened to the most portable OS, NetBSD?

[RichGem]

Hey they're on version 3, while wer're stuck on 2.26.

We're just better at decimals.


What ever happened to the most portable OS, NetBSD?

still kickin' as far as I know.

see here (http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=netbsd)

[soapbox]

Hey they're on version 3, while wer're stuck on 2.26.

What ever happened to the most portable OS, NetBSD?

And 10,000 lines of code is a pretty cool achievement for a whole OS. A very simple, limited OS, but cool just the same.

As for NetBSD, it still runs on toasters and coffee makers, just not so many PCs anymore. I think among the BSDs (not counting Macs), NetBSD isn't that popular, even though its package management is really good.

[OldSaw]

Linux will never die. BTW, I'm posting from my new LINUX (yes really) laptop.

Is it wireless?

[OldSaw]

Keep on topic...ON TOPIC.

Mr. Gillette came out of the woods for a few minutes to check emails. I'm in a hot non-airconditioned library with a librarian glaring at me...ready to head back into the woods.

STOP TALKING ABOUT ME!

Poor Mr. GIllete (Linux, by the way). I bought and received a B&B essential, and I forgot to bring it. I even forgot to bring ANY brush...drove 30 miles to a drugstore where for 9.99 I could buy the crappiest Ever-ready badger brush imaginable.

Still...nice weather, bear...bare...eagles...a couple of ducks accidentally flew into shotgun range...it must be duck season somewhere...fish...

LINUX.:lol::lol:

I might make it up there this week. I hope I don't accidentally walk into the shotgun.

[RichGem]

Is it wireless?

Yes. It's an Asus Eee PC

[Confuzius]

Xandros or have you gotten more adventurous than that?

My girlfriend has an eeepc 900 running XP =\ I'd tried to convince her, but she's still not so hot on the penguin.
When she gets back from italy I'm going to try and get her to try KDE 4.1 on for size, but that another story. Now I'm just waiting for her to get bored of the EEEpc so I can Ubuntify it.

[chickpea]

she's still not so hot on the penguin.



There are many creams or other implements that can help with that:w00t::w00t:

[RichGem]

Xandros or have you gotten more adventurous than that?



Still with Xandros, altho with the "advanced" desktop. I was going to install Mandriva (only other eee distro where everything works), but could not b/c of not enough disk space (even w/ blank disk and no swap)... I got the 2g "surf" model. Xandros isn't too bad with the advanced desktop and for what I"m using it for (travel email), I'm happy enough, tho mandriva looks nicer, i think.

[soapbox]

I'd tried to convince her, but she's still not so hot on the penguin.


Dude, it's not nice to talk about Rich like that. He's RIGHT HERE.

[RichGem]

Dude, it's not nice to talk about Rich like that. He's RIGHT HERE.

It must be the fish breath. :redface:

[RichGem]

One more note on the LINUX EeePC... buhjeezum, does the bottom get hot....(no fan)... definitely not for long time, literal laptop comuting.

[RichGem]

My 3,000th post and I just had to make it here!

Woohooo! Everyone have a good linux.

[OldSaw]

Yes. It's an Asus Eee PC

I gotta get mine running. I didn't get a chance to play with it today. I was visiting Mr. G in the U.P.

[OldSaw]

My 3,000th post and I just had to make it here!

Woohooo! Everyone have a good linux.

Congratulations.

[soapbox]

I know, I could have just posted the 3000th post congratulations for Rich here instead of starting my own thread, but this thread isn't about Rich -- it's about wasting time and talking about Linux. :001_smile

(but congrats, Rich, again!)

[burnwood]

Congrats Rich. no more linux speak.

edit: minix

[rodd]

Random question of the day... Anyone ever accidentally cut hairs off their brush with their razor??? Me either.

[soapbox]

Random question of the day... Anyone ever accidentally cut hairs off their brush with their razor??? Me either.

Bwaaaaa? :001_huh: :001_huh:

Rodd -- doing what?

[OldSaw]

I'm moving again. I'm not sure how that will affect my posting. I just wanted to let you all know.

I have been using the Linux machine, However, I have not toyed with the wireless in a while. I think I may need some help for that.

[soapbox]

I'm moving again. I'm not sure how that will affect my posting. I just wanted to let you all know.

I have been using the Linux machine, However, I have not toyed with the wireless in a while. I think I may need some help for that.

As long as the move is wanted and warranted, then we'll be completely forgiving of your absence. Everything okay?

As for wireless, yeah, you may need to follow Chickpea's lead with the Windows driver translator for that chipset. Bummer, but very cool that it works at all, no?

[chickpea]

As long as the move is wanted and warranted, then we'll be completely forgiving of your absence. Everything okay?

As for wireless, yeah, you may need to follow Chickpea's lead with the Windows driver translator for that chipset. Bummer, but very cool that it works at all, no?

I am here to help, if you need it. I have been there, and climbed the mountain, that's why I know how to do this wireless crap. Sorry it isn't easy for ya, it's the only thing in linux that is still kind of a PITA.

Hope the move is wanted.

[Lynchmeister]

Ok, guys. I'm back from NY.

Linux.

[soapbox]

Ok, guys. I'm back from NY.

Linux.

I thought I noticed a lack of Flair...

:001_smile

[RichGem]

I thought I noticed a lack of Flair...

:001_smile

I thought I noticed a lack of Lynchmeister.

edit: oh, and linux. And... who voluntarily spends a week in Albany anyhow? :confused:

[Lynchmeister]

I thought I noticed a lack of Lynchmeister.

edit: oh, and linux. And... who voluntarily spends a week in Albany anyhow? :confused:


I was able to keep my sanity by seeing my 1 year old niece (my first biological niece and/or nephew). I'm admittedly not a fan of babies, but I'm absolutely smitten with this little girl! Much to my wife's chagrin, I now want a child...pending a house with a motorcycle in the garage of course. :wink:

[soapbox]

I was able to keep my sanity by seeing my 1 year old niece (my first biological niece and/or nephew). I'm admittedly not a fan of babies, but I'm absolutely smitten with this little girl!

That's what I thought before my little girl was born, but now--yep, absolutely smitten.

[RichGem]

3 yr. old niece here; I totally know the feeling. She has me completely wrapped around her little finger.

[RichGem]

Just thought I'd update you all on my new LINUX eeePC from Asus. Unfortunately, today a show stopping set back... I went to turn it on and nothing, absolutely nothing. No screen, no POST, no boot.

Double checked everything, left the battery (which I thought was full, and in fact was full) connected to the power for a few hours and ... still nothing.

So, off to the toll free tech support (12 mo warantee) and after finally getting to the right person (thankfully, tech support is still U.S.-based), the tech didn't know what the problem was, but immediately offered a RMA number and sent an email with return instructions and the assurance that their turn around time is 72 hours.

So, here's to hoping!

[soapbox]

Just thought I'd update you all on my new LINUX eeePC from Asus. Unfortunately, today a show stopping set back... I went to turn it on and nothing, absolutely nothing. No screen, no POST, no boot.

Double checked everything, left the battery (which I thought was full, and in fact was full) connected to the power for a few hours and ... still nothing.

So, off to the toll free tech support (12 mo warantee) and after finally getting to the right person (thankfully, tech support is still U.S.-based), the tech didn't know what the problem was, but immediately offered a RMA number and sent an email with return instructions and the assurance that their turn around time is 72 hours.

So, here's to hoping!

Yikes -- that little guy is brand new. Sounds like some quality control issues at Asus. Hope everything is okay.

Oh, and could you really type well on that teeny keyboard? Inquiring minds wanna know...

[RichGem]

Yikes -- that little guy is brand new. Sounds like some quality control issues at Asus. Hope everything is okay.

Oh, and could you really type well on that teeny keyboard? Inquiring minds wanna know...

Yeah, that's what it sounds like. But, as I said, once I got to the right dept., they were helpful and quick with everything.

Keyboard.... yeah, small. You probably don't want to type your dissertation on it, especially if you have fat fingers. But, for quick notes, email, etc., I think it's fine most of the time. You do have to get used to an odd key placement or two... up-arrow is where (if you touch type) you'd expect right-shift to be, and right-shift is moved one key spot to the right of where you'd normally expect it. But, otherwise, nothing major aside from the small size of the key caps themselves. Oh, and also, as you might expect, no numeric pad and home/end/pg up/pg dn are accessed via fn key combos.

edit: and if ya did have to do your dissertation on it, you could hook up an external USB keyboard, but that sorta defeats the whole laptop portability thing.

[Confuzius]

I'm 6'3" with large hands, the EEEpc keyboard takes some getting used to, but after a few weeks it's quite manageable. I was actually surprised how well I adapted to it.

[soapbox]

I'm 6'3" with large hands, the EEEpc keyboard takes some getting used to, but after a few weeks it's quite manageable. I was actually surprised how well I adapted to it.

Yeah? I'm a touch typist (with some imperfect but fast cheats), so the keyboard was a concern, but I have never seen an eeePC up close to type on it and try it out. I figure they'll start popping up in the wild soon here at the U. Anyway, I'm not in the immediate market for one, but since I can't afford a Macbook Air(!!) I thought a small-and-light laptop might be a nice portable solution for work on the plane and checking B&B and email in a hotel.

But knowing me, I'd put xubuntu on it, compile LaTeX, Perl, and the GIMP, and actually try to start typing my next article on it. Because, you know, I'm a nerd like that.

Thanks for the info!

[RichGem]

Yeah? I'm a touch typist (with some imperfect but fast cheats), so the keyboard was a concern, but I have never seen an eeePC up close to type on it and try it out. I figure they'll start popping up in the wild soon here at the U. Anyway, I'm not in the immediate market for one, but since I can't afford a Macbook Air(!!) I thought a small-and-light laptop might be a nice portable solution for work on the plane and checking B&B and email in a hotel.

But knowing me, I'd put xubuntu on it, compile LaTeX, Perl, and the GIMP, and actually try to start typing my next article on it. Because, you know, I'm a nerd like that.

Thanks for the info!

That's a noticeable downside to the 2g model that I bought (tho it doesn't really affect me)... Xandros does not come with the compiler chain installed & there's no room on the internal drive to add it, so if you want to add software, better pray that it comes in DEB format.

[Confuzius]

SDHC cards are getting cheaper, you could just perma mount one.
Also SSD's are getting cheaper Keep and eye on Buffalo:
The 32GB SHD-EP9M32G is a mere $156, and the 64GB SHD-EP9M64G an equally neat $316. Available in Japan at first, mid-September.
http://gizmodo.com/5030328/buffalos-32gb-and-64gb-ssds-for-eee-pc-get-launch-date-price

Yeah, I touch type, with a quick finger on the backspace...

[soapbox]

SDHC cards are getting cheaper, you could just perma mount one.
Also SSD's are getting cheaper Keep and eye on Buffalo:
http://gizmodo.com/5030328/buffalos-32gb-and-64gb-ssds-for-eee-pc-get-launch-date-price


I can do a lot with 32GB in Linux, and 64GB would be some serious storage for a portable doodad like that. Hell, I could put a few movies on the machine too.

Damn. I am so not able to afford a 901 right now. Ah well, I'll have to get by with my still-gorgeous 15" Powerbook.

[chickpea]

Ready . . . set . . .

Nerd p0rn:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/shadowkris/2210472756/

[Confuzius]

Ready . . . set . . .

Nerd p0rn:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/shadowkris/2210472756/

This one wins the "hardcore" category
http://gizmodo.com/384572/3200-eeepc-with-32gb-solid-state-drive-now-on-ebay
http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/04/Eee-PC-Under-Motherboard.jpg


8gb solid state drive
• 32gb Patriot XT drive
• 2gb RAM
• Intel Wi-Fi A/B/G/N upgraded card
• 7" LCD with touchscreen
• Air Play installed so you can transmit all of your sound to an FM radio
• Custom copper heatsink installed because it's overclocked
• Bluetooth adapter
• 2 USB hubs so all the USB devices can hook up to the Eee PC
• web cam
• speakers
• microphone
• 3 USB ports
• one external VGA port so you can hook up an external monitor
• Windows XP Professional SP3 with all the drivers installed and tested
• Screen resolution is set a 1024x768 with the hacked Video Driver

[chickpea]

Nice.

Here's one for midget lovers :blush::

http://dkc1.digikey.com/us/mkt/beagleboard.html

http://www.beagleboard.org/uploads/Beagle_HRM_B4.pdf

[Confuzius]

I've been considering the beagle just for the sheer awesomeness of possibilities I could turn it into a killer networked jukebox with a very custom interface/case and touch screen.
Too bad im stone broke.

[soapbox]

This one wins the "hardcore" category
http://gizmodo.com/384572/3200-eeepc-with-32gb-solid-state-drive-now-on-ebay


Battery life: 18 minutes.

But still, an amazing solder/hack job. That's neat.

[soapbox]

I've been considering the beagle just for the sheer awesomeness of possibilities I could turn it into a killer networked jukebox with a very custom interface/case and touch screen.
Too bad im stone broke.

Get an old laptop, lose the case, and go from there. networking and jukebox duties don't require much grunt (unless you want to play video) and you could put the whole thing into a shadow box or something like that. You could even mount the screen on the front of the shadow box and have it be a bigger digital picture frame sort of thing.

Totally do-able. And if you have more time than money...not a bad way to cultivate your hobby. :blush:

[OldSaw]

As long as the move is wanted and warranted, then we'll be completely forgiving of your absence. Everything okay?

As for wireless, yeah, you may need to follow Chickpea's lead with the Windows driver translator for that chipset. Bummer, but very cool that it works at all, no?

I think the magnetic pull of the Cheddar Curtain is one of the strongest forces in the universe. It pulled Favre back. They had to kick him out to get him to leave.

Actually the move to Michigan isn't working out as well as we thought it might. We still own some commercial real estate that will be easier to manage locally and jobs are tough to find here, my business did not take off as well as expected, etc.

Long story short, my wife got a job back in Green Bay, and I am going back to school at the University of Wisconsin Green Bay. And get this, I'm planning on majoring in computer science. So it fits with the thread. Maybe by the time I graduate I'll have my computer working.

[Lynchmeister]

I think the magnetic pull of the Cheddar Curtain is one of the strongest forces in the universe. It pulled Favre back. They had to kick him out to get him to leave.

Actually the move to Michigan isn't working out as well as we thought it might. We still own some commercial real estate that will be easier to manage locally and jobs are tough to find here, my business did not take off as well as expected, etc.

Long story short, my wife got a job back in Green Bay, and I am going back to school at the University of Wisconsin Green Bay. And get this, I'm planning on majoring in computer science. So it fits with the thread. Maybe by the time I graduate I'll have my computer working.

...

[RichGem]

I think the magnetic pull of the Cheddar Curtain is one of the strongest forces in the universe. It pulled Favre back. They had to kick him out to get him to leave.




Has our resident Czar approved this move? And do make sure your papers are in order. I'm just sayin.... :whistling:

[RichGem]

Everyone, I'd like you to meet Cory, aka Lynchmeister. He's new to the board and likes cheddar cheese and linux.

:lol:

(good to see you around here buddy)

[OldSaw]

Has our resident Czar approved this move? And do make sure your papers are in order. I'm just sayin.... :whistling:

I think the problem is that the move to leave was never approved. As everyone knows, a totally controlling regime doesn't let its citizens leave just because they think they want to.

[RichGem]

I think the problem is that the move to leave was never approved. As everyone knows, a totally controlling regime doesn't let its citizens leave just because they think they want to.

No doubt you will be lucky to escape with the cheddar cheese on your back, let alone any worldly possessions. I hear wet shaving goods are particularly high on the confiscation list.

[OldSaw]

No doubt you will be lucky to escape with the cheddar cheese on your back, let alone any worldly possessions. I hear wet shaving goods are particularly high on the confiscation list.

...and ethernet cables. :rolleyes:

[Lynchmeister]

Has our resident Czar approved this move? And do make sure your papers are in order. I'm just sayin.... :whistling:


Everyone, I'd like you to meet Cory, aka Lynchmeister. He's new to the board and likes cheddar cheese and linux.

:lol:

(good to see you around here buddy)


I think the problem is that the move to leave was never approved. As everyone knows, a totally controlling regime doesn't let its citizens leave just because they think they want to.


No doubt you will be lucky to escape with the cheddar cheese on your back, let alone any worldly possessions. I hear wet shaving goods are particularly high on the confiscation list.


...and ethernet cables. :rolleyes:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[soapbox]

...and ethernet cables. :rolleyes:

Bwaaaahahahahaha! :a29:

Good laugh needed badly this morning.

[Mr. Gillette]

I'm still in the woods...not out of the woods yet...enjoyed a nice visit from Old Saw, who brought me a razor that redefines aggressive. THANKS, Dennis!


Keep Cory on topic.

Linux.

[RichGem]

Tux gets knighted; Micro$oft gives no comment.

here (http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/08/15/penguin.knighthood.ap/)

[soapbox]

Tux gets knighted; Micro$oft gives no comment.

here (http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/08/15/penguin.knighthood.ap/)

Linux has a solid presence in Norway anyway -- MS is pretty weak in Scandinavia, compared with other parts of the world.

[Lynchmeister]

Linux has a solid presence in Norway anyway -- MS is pretty weak in Scandinavia, compared with other parts of the world.

Further proof that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. :tongue_sm

[soapbox]

Further proof that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. :tongue_sm

Yeah, I have never been to Finland so I can't comment on the uptake there, but I'm sure it's a point of pride for at least some of Torvalds' countrymen.

[Lynchmeister]

And to add to the excitement, he's Finnish, but part of a small Swedish speaking population in Finland, so the Swedes must be pretty proud too. :biggrin:

[OldSaw]

I'm still in the woods...not out of the woods yet...enjoyed a nice visit from Old Saw, who brought me a razor that redefines aggressive. THANKS, Dennis!


Keep Cory on topic.

Linux.

That is some kind of aggressive. So it's not just me that thinks it is aggressive then. I'm glad to hear you are surviving up there without your Linux.

I am nearly completely moved in to the new place, back behind the Cheddar Curtain.

[RichGem]

We needed a bump... so... I'll just show off my new avatar.

[OldSaw]

We needed a bump... so... I'll just show off my new avatar.

Is that the emperor of penguins?

[RichGem]

Is that the emperor of penguins?

On the "Muppet Show" (see muppet thread), he was called "Caesar Penguin" with the pun being that he is indeed an emperor penguin. I just prefer to think that SuperTux (denied me by Timmy Boston, who's muppet-izing everyone these days) likes to wear a toga when working in Italy.

[burnwood]

your penguin is sexy in a toga Rich.

[Confuzius]

http://www.geekstir.com/img/linuxwars.jpg

[RichGem]

your penguin is sexy in a toga Rich.

Don't you wish your girlfriend was sexy like Tux???

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[RichGem]

The Asus EEE PC is back from Asus with today's mail... just under a week turn around time. No diagnosis of the original problem, but they sent me a whole new unit. :thumbsup:

[Confuzius]

Word to the wise: If you decide to show your girlfriend/wife how cool linux is, and dual boot it, but leave it on linux and she gets home from work before you and her computer is "broken" make sure that it doesn't coincide with "that time of the month"

I'm a dead man.

[RichGem]

Word to the wise: If you decide to show your girlfriend/wife how cool linux is, and dual boot it, but leave it on linux and she gets home from work before you and her computer is "broken" make sure that it doesn't coincide with "that time of the month"

I'm a dead man.

good luck. next time switch over to full linux and tell her that it's windoz YP or something. :wink:

[Confuzius]

Progress is being made... kind of. I'm still alive and learning that KDE 4.1 is pretty cool, but significantly different from anything else I've used.

I just need to figure out some sort of killer app to show her now, hehe

[soapbox]

Progress is being made... kind of. I'm still alive and learning that KDE 4.1 is pretty cool, but significantly different from anything else I've used.

I just need to figure out some sort of killer app to show her now, hehe

Try these:

Compiz
OpenOffice 2 or the 3.0 beta
GIMP
Inkscape
FreeMind
QGIS

Any of these not familiar? I'm happy to help if not.

[OldSaw]

Word to the wise: If you decide to show your girlfriend/wife how cool linux is, and dual boot it, but leave it on linux and she gets home from work before you and her computer is "broken" make sure that it doesn't coincide with "that time of the month"

I'm a dead man.

This is exactly why I want only Linux on my machine.

And what's this "time of the month"? Is it pay day? What's the matter, don't you make enough money to keep her in Bon Bons? :lol:

[OldSaw]

Try these:

Compiz
OpenOffice 2 or the 3.0 beta
GIMP
Inkscape
FreeMind
QGIS

Any of these not familiar? I'm happy to help if not.

What about Scribus?

[Confuzius]

what's QGIS?
I'm going to try krita instead of gimp to stick to kde stuff as much as possible.

[soapbox]

What about Scribus?

I've only recently become acquainted with Scribus (after years and years of using PageMaker, and InDesign), but I'm impressed so far. I do most of my document work in LaTeX anymore, but that doesn't take anything away from Scribus.

[soapbox]

what's QGIS?
I'm going to try krita instead of gimp to stick to kde stuff as much as possible.

QGIS (http://www.qgis.org) is an open-source Geographic Information Systems (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographic_information_system) program, that doesn't have the depth or power of GRASS GIS (http://grass.osgeo.org), but it is easier to use for entry-level GIS work. I used GRASS and over 5000 lines of code to produce my dissertation data, but to show maps and make simple projects, GRASS requires a lot more startup effort than QGIS. QGIS has a GRASS plugin, should anyone be interested in both.

[Confuzius]

I'll have to check that out, I know she's done alot of GIS stuff just having graduated in Archeology/Geology

[RichGem]

Penguin love from Weezer!

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showpost.php?p=728659&postcount=33

[soapbox]

My hard drive is acting really wonky on my Gentoo box, so it's time to rebuild. I am not comfortable just doing a dd after the soft failure I experienced, so it's time for a ground-up rebuild. I forgot how long it takes to compile Gnome and OpenOffice.org. Yikes. :001_smile

[RichGem]

My hard drive is acting really wonky on my Gentoo box, so it's time to rebuild. I am not comfortable just doing a dd after the soft failure I experienced, so it's time for a ground-up rebuild. I forgot how long it takes to compile Gnome and OpenOffice.org. Yikes. :001_smile

yeesh, lucky you. I'd just go for a dd (esp. since it can cope with errors) and hope for the best. good luck!

otoh... just back up /home and rebuild... safer.

[soapbox]

yeesh, lucky you. I'd just go for a dd (esp. since it can cope with errors) and hope for the best. good luck!


A few files had already gotten thwacked by the errors in the B-tree, so I was antsy about using dd.


otoh... just back up /home and rebuild... safer.

Definitely did that. I've learned a few things about data loss in my time. Yikes.

[RichGem]

A few files had already gotten thwacked by the errors in the B-tree, so I was antsy about using dd.



Definitely did that. I've learned a few things about data loss in my time. Yikes.

and it's never a painless lesson. :frown:

[Lynchmeister]

Penguin love from Weezer!

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showpost.php?p=728659&postcount=33


As B&B's Self-Proclaimed "Biggest Weezer Fan," I hang my head in shame for missing this post and not thinking of it myself.

:tongue_sm

[RichGem]

As B&B's Self-Proclaimed "Biggest Weezer Fan," I hang my head in shame for missing this post and not thinking of it myself.

:tongue_sm

:nono: :nono: :nono: :lol:

If it's any consolation, we think of you as the biggest Seinfeld fan. :tongue:

[Lynchmeister]

:nono: :nono: :nono: :lol:

If it's any consolation, we think of you as the biggest Seinfeld fan. :tongue:

Yes, TV definitely trumps music.

:biggrin:

[soapbox]

and it's never a painless lesson. :frown:

Most painful lesson: My Powerbook G3 ("Pismo") stolen with four months of dissertation work on it that hadn't been backed up. Fortunately it was really early in my dissertation work, so it didn't have much bearing on my ultimate project, but it was shocking and painful at the time.

Now -- well, now, I'm paranoid about backup. It's quite something.

[OldSaw]

As B&B's Self-Proclaimed "Biggest Weezer Fan," I hang my head in shame for missing this post and not thinking of it myself.

:tongue_sm


:nono: :nono: :nono: :lol:

If it's any consolation, we think of you as the biggest Seinfeld fan. :tongue:

Weezer, Seinfeld, AND Czar of the Cheddar Curtain? How do you manage it all?

BTW, I noticed some good Cheddar Curtain shots on my trip from Petoskey to Green Bay yesterday. I'll try to get them next weekend and post them. These are Menominee river vicinity sightings. Maybe you could get some from the St. Croix?

One is a billboard for a cheese shop, but the only picture on the sign is of an ice cream cone.

[Lynchmeister]

Weezer, Seinfeld, AND Czar of the Cheddar Curtain? How do you manage it all?

BTW, I noticed some good Cheddar Curtain shots on my trip from Petoskey to Green Bay yesterday. I'll try to get them next weekend and post them. These are Menominee river vicinity sightings. Maybe you could get some from the St. Croix?

One is a billboard for a cheese shop, but the only picture on the sign is of an ice cream cone.

:lol: I tell ya, it's a tough life.

So you're looking for a slice o' life in pictures from the beautiful St. Croix River Valley area? No problemo. Enjoy! :biggrin:

[OldSaw]

:lol: I tell ya, it's a tough life.

So you're looking for a slice o' life in pictures from the beautiful St. Croix River Valley area? No problemo. Enjoy! :biggrin:

I like the taxidermy & cheese pic. There used to be a place in the UP that we always made fun of which had burial monuments and dry cleaning in the same place. Lately I see they no longer do dry cleaning.

[Lynchmeister]

I have to apologize for the falsification of the portrayal of life behind the Cheddar Curtain, as seen in the picture I just posted.

Now that I'm free of government censors (they're watching us), I feel emboldened to post the real, non-photoshopped image of what I really saw.

[RichGem]

Weezer, Seinfeld, AND Czar of the Cheddar Curtain? How do you manage it all?



That's what happens when you're the (albeit benevolent) dictator of your own principality... ya never get enough (cheese that is). :tongue_sm

[RichGem]

I have to apologize for the falsification of the portrayal of life behind the Cheddar Curtain, as seen in the picture I just posted.

Now that I'm free of government censors (they're watching us), I feel emboldened to post the real, non-photoshopped image of what I really saw.

hmmm. still missing Nessie and Sasquatch I see. I guess they were kinda camera shy that day.

edit: Your (non-) "gimp" skills are getting better all the time young padowan.

[Lynchmeister]

hmmm. still missing Nessie and Sasquatch I see. I guess they were kinda camera shy that day.

edit: Your (non-) "gimp" skills are getting better all the time young padowan.

I'm at work (can ya tell? :lol:), so that means...Paint! :w00t: Not like that would make a difference with my skillz, though. :001_rolle

[RichGem]

I'm at work (can ya tell? :lol:), so that means...Paint! :w00t: Not like that would make a difference with my skillz, though. :001_rolle

My bad. I should have realized... after all, you posted. Therefore, you must be at work. :lol:

[OldSaw]

I have to apologize for the falsification of the portrayal of life behind the Cheddar Curtain, as seen in the picture I just posted.

Now that I'm free of government censors (they're watching us), I feel emboldened to post the real, non-photoshopped image of what I really saw.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[OldSaw]

My bad. I should have realized... after all, you posted. Therefore, you must be at work. :lol:

I was wondering why he was logged in on a Saturday.

[Lynchmeister]

My bad. I should have realized... after all, you posted. Therefore, you must be at work. :lol:


I was wondering why he was logged in on a Saturday.

:lol::lol:

Wait till the snow flies, though. You'll be begging me to leave. :biggrin:

[RichGem]

:lol::lol:

Wait till the snow flies, though. You'll be begging me to leave. :biggrin:

At the current rate, I will have at least caught up to, if not surpassed Chip by then. :devil:

[homebrewer]

Maybe you guys can help me with this one....

I made the mistake of trying to upgrade my kernel (apparently a pretty big mistake considering how much of Linux I know). I'm dual booting my laptop with Mandriva Spring 2008, and Vista. After the update, when grub loads I get the options of vista, Mandriva, Mandirva safe mode, and a string of numbers (which I believe is the kernel version number). If I try to boot any of the three linux options, it will work for 30 seconds, and then dump to a command line screen with a prompt of "local host login".... No command that I enter seems to do anything.

Any ideas? I could just wipe it and start over, but I'd like to try and fix it just for the practice...

[RichGem]

Maybe you guys can help me with this one....

I made the mistake of trying to upgrade my kernel (apparently a pretty big mistake considering how much of Linux I know). I'm dual booting my laptop with Mandriva Spring 2008, and Vista. After the update, when grub loads I get the options of vista, Mandriva, Mandirva safe mode, and a string of numbers (which I believe is the kernel version number). If I try to boot any of the three linux options, it will work for 30 seconds, and then dump to a command line screen with a prompt of "local host login".... No command that I enter seems to do anything.

Any ideas? I could just wipe it and start over, but I'd like to try and fix it just for the practice...

it sounds like you're relatively fine, actually. linux just isn't loading a graphical login (gdm or kdm usually) and handling it from a text login instead. when you get that prompt, enter your username and enter. then your password and enter. then at prompt enter "startx" and you should be good to go.

[OldSaw]

Two Thousand Nine Hundred Awesome Posts!!! Woo Hoo!!!

:a50::a50::a50::a5::a22::a21::a50:
:a29::punk::wheelchair:
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::jump:
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
:thumbsup::badger::thumbsup:

I think we need a few more of these. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: + :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: + a few more :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Linux is awesome!

[OldSaw]

And for some more flair go to Yahoo, type linux in the search field, click on images and search. The very first pic made me do a super double take. I wasn't sure if it was appropriate to post it here, so I did not.

Anyway, there are the instructions. If body paint over a semi nude body offends you, then avoid this.

[mhdagley]

That was a nice pic.

[OldSaw]

That was a nice pic.

I'm surprised you're the only one who looked. I thought for sure that would have spurred a plethora of replies.

[Lynchmeister]

I'm surprised you're the only one who looked. I thought for sure that would have spurred a plethora of replies.

I'm on my way. :wink:

Ok. I'm back. Good thing I'm not at work today! :lol:

[RichGem]

I'm on my way. :wink:

Ok. I'm back. Good thing I'm not at work today! :lol:

gee, then it's a wonder that you posted today at all. !!!

:tongue_sm:tongue_sm:tongue_sm

[homebrewer]

it sounds like you're relatively fine, actually. linux just isn't loading a graphical login (gdm or kdm usually) and handling it from a text login instead. when you get that prompt, enter your username and enter. then your password and enter. then at prompt enter "startx" and you should be good to go.

Well, you were right and I was able to login, but turns out that I borked my xorg.conf file.

I forgot to mention that while I was updating the kernel I was also attempting to get some more functionality out of my mouse. (Logitech MX Revolution). I had added a few new lines to the xorg.conf file, and now it refuses to start.

After using the text login, I enter "startx", and it gives me a bunch of info, most important of which is that it doesn't recognize the "Mouse2" section that I had added, and therefor cannot start. Is there anyway to modify the xorg.conf file from this type of command line? I've tried a few things, but I can't even seem to be able to open it to modify the file...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[RichGem]

yeah... well, maybe.

Log in as root (yes, you're allowed this time). then

run: xorg-config OR config-xorg or something like that. (diff distros name it differently). then startx and you should be up and running as root in a gui. So, log out and log in as a normal user.




Well, you were right and I was able to login, but turns out that I borked my xorg.conf file.

I forgot to mention that while I was updating the kernel I was also attempting to get some more functionality out of my mouse. (Logitech MX Revolution). I had added a few new lines to the xorg.conf file, and now it refuses to start.

After using the text login, I enter "startx", and it gives me a bunch of info, most important of which is that it doesn't recognize the "Mouse2" section that I had added, and therefor cannot start. Is there anyway to modify the xorg.conf file from this type of command line? I've tried a few things, but I can't even seem to be able to open it to modify the file...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Confuzius]

try sudo or su or whatever makes you root "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
And follow the instructions, that should bring your xorg.conf back to normal, or at least useable.

[Lynchmeister]

gee, then it's a wonder that you posted today at all. !!!

:tongue_sm:tongue_sm:tongue_sm


Snap!!!

:lol::lol:

[RichGem]

try sudo or su or whatever makes you root "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
And follow the instructions, that should bring your xorg.conf back to normal, or at least useable.

Then ... there's the Debian way. :wink:


edit: If, by some chance, neither "reconfig" strategies work, you'll have to log in in text mode and manually edit xorg.conf with vi or your favorite text-based text editor....at least will have to delete the "mouse2" section you inserted. then save, log out, log in again and pray. Not as bad as it sounds, but it's a bit involved and can be a wee bit scary if you're not used to using vi or text mode. Let us know what happens.

[Confuzius]

FWIW for simple things like xorg edit I find pico way easier to use than vi. From a noob point of view...

[RichGem]

FWIW for simple things like xorg edit I find pico way easier to use than vi. From a noob point of view...


prolly true, but vi is the only text mode editor I bothered to learn and it's almost assuredly on every system. Pico may or may not be installed by default. We won't even think about touching emacs :devil:.

[OldSaw]

I hate it when this thread isn't on the first page of my most recent posts.

[homebrewer]

RichGem and Confuzius, I freaking love you both. It took me a while to figure out how to save using vi, but I'm happy to say that I'm back up and running, posting this from Mandriva.

Now if only I could figure out how to get the other 3 buttons and second wheel on my MX Revolution to do anything.....

[Lynchmeister]

Well, I'll have some more Linux Mint fodder for you all. It won't boot due to some "inconsistencies." I didn't look at the message too closely, but it wanted me to do some stuff manually in a maintenance mode and I just don't have the time at the moment. At any rate, I'm currently back on Windows and I'm not liking it. More to come.

[RichGem]

RichGem and Confuzius, I freaking love you both. It took me a while to figure out how to save using vi, but I'm happy to say that I'm back up and running, posting this from Mandriva.

Now if only I could figure out how to get the other 3 buttons and second wheel on my MX Revolution to do anything.....

:thumbsup: :clap:

As to the mouse set up... try a thorough google for linux + the mouse name... it may turn up something useful.



Well, I'll have some more Linux Mint fodder for you all. It won't boot due to some "inconsistencies." I didn't look at the message too closely, but it wanted me to do some stuff manually in a maintenance mode and I just don't have the time at the moment. At any rate, I'm currently back on Windows and I'm not liking it. More to come.

wuss. :letterk2: and after all we learned you!

:biggrin:

[biomesh]

Well, I'll have some more Linux Mint fodder for you all. It won't boot due to some "inconsistencies." I didn't look at the message too closely, but it wanted me to do some stuff manually in a maintenance mode and I just don't have the time at the moment. At any rate, I'm currently back on Windows and I'm not liking it. More to come.

Sounds like you used ext2 or ext3 as your filesystem (most likely the defaults) and now it wants you to do a fsck (file system check) on one or more disk partitions. Just follow the prompts and you should be good. If you ever reinstall, I would suggest using XFS as your filesystem as there are no mandatory checks enabled by default and the mount times for large partitions are super fast. I have 2 TB in my PC and the partitions always mount within a second or two.

[Confuzius]

RichGem and Confuzius, I freaking love you both. It took me a while to figure out how to save using vi, but I'm happy to say that I'm back up and running, posting this from Mandriva.

Now if only I could figure out how to get the other 3 buttons and second wheel on my MX Revolution to do anything.....

More than happy to help :-)

As far as the mouse thing, google and the mandriva forums are probably your best bet. I broke my xorg hundreds of times trying to get all of the buttons working on my MX510, nothing worked and then magically when I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.04 it all fell into place, I still have no clue how.


In other news my girlfriend hasn't been back into Vista since I put Kubuntu w/ KDE 4.1 on her system! Running window XP's Spider Solitaire through wine :lol:

Can anyone recommend a good hearts game for linux?

[OldSaw]

You guys all make me jealous. With all this moving, packing and unpacking, I haven't had time to play with my Linux machine.

[Lynchmeister]

Sounds like you used ext2 or ext3 as your filesystem (most likely the defaults) and now it wants you to do a fsck (file system check) on one or more disk partitions. Just follow the prompts and you should be good. If you ever reinstall, I would suggest using XFS as your filesystem as there are no mandatory checks enabled by default and the mount times for large partitions are super fast. I have 2 TB in my PC and the partitions always mount within a second or two.

Yes, after reading this, the lightbulb went off in my head and this is exactly what is happening. I've yet to actually find the time to work through it, but it sounds like no big deal.

It's a real shame when prospective house shopping eats into your five days off. Now I'm back at the grind, covering hours over the holiday weekend, so no go until Tuesday at best. <insert Rich comment about post frequency spiking while I'm at work. :biggrin: >

Thanks for the info!

[synergie]

Try these:

Compiz
OpenOffice 2 or the 3.0 beta
GIMP
Inkscape
FreeMind
QGIS

Any of these not familiar? I'm happy to help if not.

Use ubuntu

[RichGem]

Yes, after reading this, the lightbulb went off in my head and this is exactly what is happening. I've yet to actually find the time to work through it, but it sounds like no big deal.

It's a real shame when prospective house shopping eats into your five days off. Now I'm back at the grind, covering hours over the holiday weekend, so no go until Tuesday at best. <insert Rich comment about post frequency spiking while I'm at work. :biggrin: >

Thanks for the info!

<Hal 2000>: Good morning Cory. Welcome back to work. It is good to see you again. Have a pleasant day. </Hal 2000>

About the above... just let the system boot and it should fsck automatically and need no interaction from you unless something weird pops up (which it shouldn't). Once the fsck is done (and presumably passes), the system will boot normally.

[Lynchmeister]

<Hal 2000>: Good morning Cory. Welcome back to work. It is good to see you again. Have a pleasant day. </Hal 2000>

About the above... just let the system boot and it should fsck automatically and need no interaction from you unless something weird pops up (which it shouldn't). Once the fsck is done (and presumably passes), the system will boot normally.

Good morning, Hal! Are we ready to get busy on B&B? working?!?

:lol:

So just hit enter or something? I can't recall what it was for, but I do get a [fail] after one of the checks. I know that's not much to go on, but maybe it can shed some light on whether or not some more troubleshooting may be in order.

Oh, just remembered. Once it's done doing its thing, it ends in a terminal prompt.

[OldSaw]

Have a nice Labor Day weekend everyone. I'll be out all weekend. I gotta make a run back to Michigan. See you all next week.

[RichGem]

Good morning, Hal! Are we ready to get busy on B&B? working?!?

:lol:

So just hit enter or something? I can't recall what it was for, but I do get a [fail] after one of the checks. I know that's not much to go on, but maybe it can shed some light on whether or not some more troubleshooting may be in order.

Oh, just remembered. Once it's done doing its thing, it ends in a terminal prompt.

I'm not sure what to tell you without seeing the screens... fsck is ordinarily configured to automatically fix any errors it encounters; maybe yours isn't set that way and is asking for an action. a "fail" can mean a lot of things... some of which aren't the least bit significant or worrisome (for ex... you'll get a fail if linux trys to configure DHCP when you have a ethernet card available but not connected to a router).

Ending in a terminal is probably due to the fail, but I can't say why or what to do without being there or having more info. Probably, whatever failed is significant (at least in Tux's mind) and you need to perform some manual action before fsck can succeed. But, that's just a guess at this point.

The terminal, as it now occurs to me, could also be the result of a GRUB failure on some level and you're being dropped into a GRUB terminal to fix the problem before boot can continue. This is more significant, but providing you don't have an actual disk failure, shouldn't be too hard to fix. (fingers crossed)

edit: a GRUB terminal is similar to a regular text/cli terminal but is more limited. The cli prompt changes t0 "GRUB> " to indicate this. Are you getting that type of prompt?

[Lynchmeister]

edit: a GRUB terminal is similar to a regular text/cli terminal but is more limited. The cli prompt changes t0 "GRUB> " to indicate this. Are you getting that type of prompt?

Hmm...I really can't say one way or the other. My wife and I were in a hurry to go look at some houses and lots and wanted to do a quick "pop in" to get directions, so in our impatience, it was one of those "alright...boot up windoze" moments. :redface::tongue_sm

[RichGem]

Hmm...I really can't say one way or the other. My wife and I were in a hurry to go look at some houses and lots and wanted to do a quick "pop in" to get directions, so in our impatience, it was one of those "alright...boot up windoze" moments. :redface::tongue_sm


The Czar and Czarina are looking for a new palace? Don't you have serfs to take care of this for you? Just submit the plans and tell them to get to it!

[Lynchmeister]

The Czar and Czarina are looking for a new palace? Don't you have serfs to take care of this for you? Just submit the plans and tell them to get to it!

:tongue:

There was a slight uprising upon hearing the news that Dennis was attempting another permanent breach of the Cheddar Curtain, which, guessing by said uprising, was successful. That being said, all the serfs have absconded to Minnesota and Illinois.

[RichGem]

:tongue:

There was a slight uprising upon hearing the news that Dennis was attempting another permanent breach of the Cheddar Curtain, which, guessing by said uprising, was successful. That being said, all the serfs have absconded to Minnesota and Illinois.

<news announcer>: "Looks like trouble brewing behind the Cheddar Curtain. Details are uncertain at this time, but early reports indicate a possible peasant uprising. Reports further indicate that the Royals are unconcerned as of this moment. More on the exact nature of the problem as information becomes available. (unless there's a media blackout). </news announcer>

Story at 11.

[Lynchmeister]

<news announcer>: "Looks like trouble brewing behind the Cheddar Curtain. Details are uncertain at this time, but early reports indicate a possible peasant uprising. Reports further indicate that the Royals are unconcerned as of this moment. More on the exact nature of the problem as information becomes available. (unless there's a media blackout). </news announcer>

Story at 11.

This was good for a pre-Lunch laugh. :biggrin:

[RichGem]

"This just in.... there is indeed a peasant revolt underway in the Czardom of Cheddar. Those lucky enough to have escaped have had to gnaw their way through the cheddar barrier which separates them from the outside world. Many of those who have escaped, have since complained to WHO officials of various digestive maladies which include lactose intolerance and severe constipation. There have also been reports of massive deportations underway of those labeled as "trouble makers." Those who have been unwilling or unable to escape have presented several demands to be met before peace can be restored. The rebel demands call for:
Free and unrestricted travel across the boarder
A fair daily working wage for the labor involved in constructing the Czar's new palace.
Greater access to materials needed to build the palace which, at last report, calls for 37 shaving stations (according to experts, this is cheddar dialect for "bathrooms"), electric fondue pots in every room, and 50 miles of hand-woven ethernet cable.
Finally, and perhaps most controversially, the peasants are demanding free access to Gouda, Mozzarella, American, and other cheeses.
If their demands are not met within 24 hours, the rebels promise the distruction of all chymosin in the Czardom.The Royals have been "unavailable" for interview. However, the Czarina has issued a brief statement through the Royal Press Office. The statement, in its entirety, reads: "Let them eat cheddar."

More details and special bulletins as this controversial and tense situation unfolds."

[burnwood]

uhm...hi.:blushing:

[Lynchmeister]

"This just in.... there is indeed a peasant revolt underway in the Czardom of Cheddar. Those lucky enough to have escaped have had to gnaw their way through the cheddar barrier which separates them from the outside world. Many of those who have escaped, have since complained to WHO officials of various digestive maladies which include lactose intolerance and severe constipation. There have also been reports of massive deportations underway of those labeled as "trouble makers." Those who have been unwilling or unable to escape have presented several demands to be met before peace can be restored. The rebel demands call for:

Free and unrestricted travel across the boarder
A fair daily working wage for the labor involved in constructing the Czar's new palace.
Greater access to materials needed to build the palace which, at last report, calls for 37 shaving stations (according to experts, this is cheddar dialect for "bathrooms"), electric fondue pots in every room, and 50 miles of hand-woven ethernet cable.
Finally, and perhaps most controversially, the peasants are demanding free access to Gouda, Mozzarella, American, and other cheeses.
If their demands are not met within 24 hours, the rebels promise the distruction of all chymosin in the Czardom.The Royals have been "unavailable" for interview. However, the Czarina has issued a brief statement through the Royal Press Office. The statement, in its entirety, reads: "Let them eat cheddar."

More details and special bulletins as this controversial and tense situation unfolds."

This in it's entirety is flippin' brilliant, but the red bolded text was the bullet to the heart.

:lol:

:a14:

[RichGem]

Crisis in Wisconsin: Late Breaking News
Peace Restored to Tiny Czardom



Early this morning (local time), agreement was reached betwen rebel factions and Cory, Czar of the Cheddar Curtain. The Statement of Accord, summarized here, is the result of several late-night sessions that were clearly designed by the government to show the Czar's benevolence to his people. The Statement was released simultaneously via the Czar's Press Office and the government-controlled newspaper Curds and Whey.

In the Statement, Czar Cory I, indicated a new willingness to address any legitimate concern of any citizen providing such concern was made in a peaceful way through proper channels and provided that such concern did not impinge upon his authority as supreme ruler or upon the well-being of the Czardom. Further, he promised amnesty and immediate repatriation for all rebels who fled the Czardom during this recent crisis and has also promised government vouchers to all citizens for low-cost or free Lactaid (tm) upon proper registration of said citizens.

In addition, the Czar has stated that he will personally appoint a mixed committee to examine the issue of fair wages for those involved in the construction of his new palace. (There is yet speculation as to the possible compensation of workers who have already left the project.)

The Czar indicated that travel restrictions vis a vis boarder crossings could be eased once order has been restored to the country in full. The Czar envisions Swiss Cheese being installed at boarder crossing points to facilitate the process. However, government scientists are skeptical of the feasibility and time line of this proposal based on current technology and their own limited understanding of the Swiss Cheese manufacturing processes. Boarder crossing searches and seizures are expected to remain in effect, especially where rogue ethernet cables are concerned.

On the subject of greater access to non-Cheddar cheeses for the populace, Czar Cory was adamant in his refusal, indicating that such a concession would be unpatriotic and subversive. After heated debate, the rebels retracted their demands on this point.

The Accord was approved by 20&#37; of the rebels (approx. 5 individuals in total; voter apathy being a consummate problem in the tiny Czardom) having voted "fo shizzle" (Cheddar dialect for "yes" or "approved.") There were two votes against (indicated by votes of, "jo-mamma") and the remainder were abstentions. One of the negative votes is said to have come from a young man named "Lynchar" who fell asleep during the debates. Some have speculated that he is, in fact, an unacknowledged scion of Cheddarion IV, the present-Czar's grand uncle who held power for a mere 21 days before dying of the effects of Mad Cow Disease in the early 1990s.

The UN General Assembly, in public conclave, has praised Czar Cory for his forward thinking and open mindedness to the Democratic Process. The Assembly further encouraged him to keep pace with, and to further enact, similar democratic measures in the future. The Czar, known for his staunch defense of Cheddar autonomy, responded in a separate statement issued in the Cheddar Language. Linguistic experts indicate that the Czar's response is best translated as, "Up Yours!"

In an additional and separate statement, also released today, the Czarina defended her earlier statement of, "Let them eat Cheddar." Referencing official government propaganda that the Czardom makes the best Cheddar in the world, she indicated that her statement was a wish that the rebels would have the best of everything. She further stated that she cannot be held responsible for any Leftist misinterpretation of her statement.

[Lynchmeister]

Crisis in Wisconsin: Late Breaking News

Peace Restored to Tiny Czardom




Early this morning (local time), agreement was reached betwen rebel factions and Cory, Czar of the Cheddar Curtain. The Statement of Accord, summarized here, is the result of several late-night sessions that were clearly designed by the government to show the Czar's benevolence to his people. The Statement was released simultaneously via the Czar's Press Office and the government-controlled newspaper Curds and Whey.




In the Statement, Czar Cory I, indicated a new willingness to address any legitimate concern of any citizen providing such concern was made in a peaceful way through proper channels and provided that such concern did not impinge upon his authority as supreme ruler or upon the well-being of the Czardom. Further, he promised amnesty and immediate repatriation for all rebels who fled the Czardom during this recent crisis and has also promised government vouchers to all citizens for low-cost or free Lactaid (tm) upon proper registration of said citizens.




In addition, the Czar has stated that he will personally appoint a mixed committee to examine the issue of fair wages for those involved in the construction of his new palace. (There is yet speculation as to the possible compensation of workers who have already left the project.)




The Czar indicated that travel restrictions vis a vis boarder crossings could be eased once order has been restored to the country in full. The Czar envisions Swiss Cheese being installed at boarder crossing points to facilitate the process. However, government scientists are skeptical of the feasibility and time line of this proposal based on current technology and their own limited understanding of the Swiss Cheese manufacturing processes. Boarder crossing searches and seizures are expected to remain in effect, especially where rogue ethernet cables are concerned.




On the subject of greater access to non-Cheddar cheeses for the populace, Czar Cory was adamant in his refusal, indicating that such a concession would be unpatriotic and subversive. After heated debate, the rebels retracted their demands on this point.




The Accord was approved by 20% of the rebels (approx. 5 individuals in total; voter apathy being a consummate problem in the tiny Czardom) having voted "fo shizzle" (Cheddar dialect for "yes" or "approved.") There were two votes against (indicated by votes of, "jo-mamma") and the remainder were abstentions. One of the negative votes is said to have come from a young man named "Lynchar" who fell asleep during the debates. Some have speculated that he is, in fact, an unacknowledged scion of Cheddarion IV, the present-Czar's grand uncle who held power for a mere 21 days before dieing of the effects of Mad Cow Disease in the early 1990s.




The UN General Assembly, in public conclave, has praised Czar Cory for his forward thinking and open mindedness to the Democratic Process. The Assembly further encouraged him to keep pace with, and to further enact, similar democratic measures in the future. The Czar, known for his staunch defense of Cheddar autonomy, responded in a separate statement issued in the Cheddar Language. Linguistic experts indicate that the Czar's response is best translated as, "Up Yours!"




In an addition and separate statement, also released today, the Czarina defended her earlier statement of, "Let them eat Cheddar." Referencing official government propaganda that the Czardom makes the best Cheddar in the world, she indicated that her statement was a wish that the rebels would have the best of everything. She further stated that she cannot be held responsible for any Leftist misinterpretation of her statement.








I am printing this out, framing it, and hanging it on the wall above the TV.

[Lynchmeister]

:lol: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol::lol::lol:

[RichGem]

I am printing this out, framing it, and hanging it on the wall above the TV.

Greater praise could not be wished for. :thumbsup:

[Mr. Gillette]

Mr Gillette is back from the deep woods of Michigan. You guys all suck...especially YOU, Cory!

hahahahahaha...

More later...good to see not much has changed...

oh...I saw a wild Linux up there in the woods once...

His name was Dennis.:tongue_sm

[burnwood]

Hello Mr. G.
that seems to be all I can say on this thread anymore.

[Lynchmeister]

Mr Gillette is back from the deep woods of Michigan. You guys all suck...especially YOU, Cory!

hahahahahaha...

More later...good to see not much has changed...

oh...I saw a wild Linux up there in the woods once...

His name was Dennis.:tongue_sm

It's good to have you back, Tom. :biggrin:

[soapbox]

Hey y'all,

I'm back from the week of back-to-school hell and a four-day conference in Boston. I miss anything?

Jesse

[RichGem]

Hey y'all,

I'm back from the week of back-to-school hell and a four-day conference in Boston. I miss anything?

Jesse

Well... there was a small revolt behind the cheddar curtain. :eek: Cory, however, is safe. (scroll back 2 pgs. and see)

[Mr. Gillette]

It's good to have you back, Tom. :biggrin:

Good to be back. BOY was I tired of FISH!!!! Old Saw visited me, and we went out for Whitefish. Then...we just couldn't keep from catching them, even though SWMBO and I are total fishing morons. "This one looks nice (Lure)...let's see if they like it..." and damned if they didn't.

Nothing like landing a 34" Northern Pike with nothing around but a .99 cent Walmart Panfish Stringer. That's some kinda living! I guess that's what the needle nose pliers are for. (See photo of pathetic fish.)

Anyway, it got worse...we thought if we just caught this one noisy fish, it would be all over...but NOOOOOO...there were more, and they just kept biting whatever we sent their way. We didn't have a refrigerator, (except for very cold water from a nearby artesian well, so for awhile we had to have pike for dinner, walleye for breakfast/lunch...we got DAMN tired of the things. Hell, they were practically jumping in the boat.

Some poor ducks jumped into shotgun range quite by accident while I was skeet shooting, and we were forced to eat them, as well. Sorry, DNR.

It was a relaxing time. We got a new dog...a 9 week old puppy, an English Setter, who made life interesting, and continues to do this now at home.

Thanks again to Dennis, who brought me some soap other than the Williams I had, and the afore-mentioned aggressive razor, which SWMBO used successfully to slice callousses off her heels.

More later...happy Labor Day.

[Lynchmeister]

Oh my God! It's a Linux!

[burnwood]

Oh my God! It's a Linux!

but why is the Linux holding a fish???

[Lynchmeister]

but why is the Linux holding a fish???


:lol:

[RichGem]

Give a linux a fish, and he'll eat for a day.... etc.

[soapbox]

Sounds like you used ext2 or ext3 as your filesystem (most likely the defaults) and now it wants you to do a fsck (file system check) on one or more disk partitions. Just follow the prompts and you should be good. If you ever reinstall, I would suggest using XFS as your filesystem as there are no mandatory checks enabled by default and the mount times for large partitions are super fast. I have 2 TB in my PC and the partitions always mount within a second or two.

I've always stuck with ext2 (boot) and ext3 (everything else except swap), but I'll look into XFS.

Oh, and welcome to the madness of the thread. Yikes, our numbers seem to be growing.

[RichGem]

I've always stuck with ext2 (boot) and ext3 (everything else except swap), but I'll look into XFS.

Oh, and welcome to the madness of the thread. Yikes, our numbers seem to be growing.

Linux is contagious.:tongue_sm

[OldSaw]

I am printing this out, framing it, and hanging it on the wall above the TV.

You got TV?

Now, do you all see how this started?

[OldSaw]

Good to be back. BOY was I tired of FISH!!!! Old Saw visited me, and we went out for Whitefish. Then...we just couldn't keep from catching them, even though SWMBO and I are total fishing morons. "This one looks nice (Lure)...let's see if they like it..." and damned if they didn't.

Nothing like landing a 34" Northern Pike with nothing around but a .99 cent Walmart Panfish Stringer. That's some kinda living! I guess that's what the needle nose pliers are for. (See photo of pathetic fish.)

Anyway, it got worse...we thought if we just caught this one noisy fish, it would be all over...but NOOOOOO...there were more, and they just kept biting whatever we sent their way. We didn't have a refrigerator, (except for very cold water from a nearby artesian well, so for awhile we had to have pike for dinner, walleye for breakfast/lunch...we got DAMN tired of the things. Hell, they were practically jumping in the boat.

Some poor ducks jumped into shotgun range quite by accident while I was skeet shooting, and we were forced to eat them, as well. Sorry, DNR.

It was a relaxing time. We got a new dog...a 9 week old puppy, an English Setter, who made life interesting, and continues to do this now at home.

Thanks again to Dennis, who brought me some soap other than the Williams I had, and the afore-mentioned aggressive razor, which SWMBO used successfully to slice callousses off her heels.

More later...happy Labor Day.

Nice fish Tom.

And when he wasn't cleaning and eating fish and ducks it was this.
29425

My wife and I enjoyed our visit at Tom's camp. It was very nice and secluded. The whole time we were there the only traffic that we saw was one boat that passed by.

[RichGem]

has anyone noticed that we're less than 50 posts away from 3k???

dennis et al., get ready with the flare!

[Mr. Gillette]

Nice fish Tom.

And when he wasn't cleaning and eating fish and ducks it was this.
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My wife and I enjoyed our visit at Tom's camp. It was very nice and secluded. The whole time we were there the only traffic that we saw was one boat that passed by.

It was a pleasant place to be. The last week (of the 4 we were there) a group of Jet Skiers (BOO!!) kept zooming by. They were, as it turned out, all from a church camp up the river, the camp owned by a large IL church not far from my home. I chatted with some of the "boys"...men in their 40's-50's and suggested that a 70mph spin down the river, cavorting figure 8's and shouting and whooping wasn't consistent with the reason I own 2 1/2 miles of quiet river frontage. And I suggested that their behavior was more like 16 year old behavior rather than 40-50's behavior. I was met with rude responses, and I even trotted out the old "Christian Guilt" card...reminding them that the represented the church in the area, etc. (This worked a bit, but still the noise.)

Then, it was as if God, Himself delivered Jonah into my hands. We had broken down our camp, and were staying at one of our cabins, the furthest downstream. The boys were on the jet skis, my uncle and some friends were there, and suddenly one of the awful machines stopped running. They approached our dock, and contritely and nicely explained to me that the machine would only travel in reverse now...that it was broken and that they needed my help.

Filled with compassion, I suggested, very nicely, that traveling in reverse would be about the same speed as my 14 ft aluminum boat with the 8 horse Mercury. That I knew their camp was about 6 miles distant, but that this wasn't an impossible thing. Then I nicely said..."So just put your ass on that machine and ride it in reverse back to where you came from...can't take it out here." And I reminded them that the next 2 1/2 miles of river frontage that abutted a road was mine, and that they were not welcome to pull out anywhere along the way.

"God Bless You!" I called after them. It was a great moment.

The fish were caught on a 10 lb test Linux, by the way.

The picture Dennis posted was of one of my chickens. These turned out to be the worst...ABSOLUTELY worst...food SWMBO or I have eaten...it was like chewing chicken flavored innertubes and the insides of golf balls would have come off the bone better. We gave up on it, and ate hotdogs that night, instead, after carefully grilling the chickens. We turned the other chicken loose and then SWMBO shot it...one humane shot, where I suppose it became Coyote Food.

:lol::lol::lol:

(I have nothing against Jet Skis, or some of the people who ride them...but I do have something against noisy yahoos...)

[soapbox]

Tom, you need to start collecting these short stories into a Lewis Grizzard type of book. I love the stories. Nice punchline about humility and the Golden Rule too...

[Mr. Gillette]

Tom, you need to start collecting these short stories into a Lewis Grizzard type of book. I love the stories. Nice punchline about humility and the Golden Rule too...

No Golden Rule there...it was "Get your asses off my dock." HAHAHAHAHAHA:001_smile

[chickpea]

I've always stuck with ext2 (boot) and ext3 (everything else except swap), but I'll look into XFS.

Oh, and welcome to the madness of the thread. Yikes, our numbers seem to be growing.

XFS has issues with data loss in the event of power outtages etc. Unless it's properly shutdown your XFS system can suffer (not a huge issue if you have a laptop, but if you have a crash and need to do a hard reset it may lead to a new install).

Oh and I'm back from Brazil hi to all.

[biomesh]

XFS is a journaling file system just like ext3 or reiserfs, so the data loss reference is not accurate. You have the same amount of risk of losing data for a power outage with XFS compared to ext3 or reiserfs. (I work for a linux distributor and have first hand knowledge BTW)

[soapbox]

No Golden Rule there...it was "Get your asses off my dock." HAHAHAHAHAHA:001_smile

Right -- they were rude to you before, then it was your turn.

Beautiful pictures, except for the ones with you in them... :biggrin:

[rabidpotatochip]

XFS is a journaling file system just like ext3 or reiserfs, so the data loss reference is not accurate. You have the same amount of risk of losing data for a power outage with XFS compared to ext3 or reiserfs. (I work for a linux distributor and have first hand knowledge BTW)

Power... out-age? Doesn't anybody use a UPS these days? Hell, I'll be the first guy on the block to hook his rig up to a gas generator if it looks like there's enough of a dip in power. Hell, I'd be out there on a bicycle hooked up to a turbine if that's what it took to keep my system whirring along.

Yeah, yeah... I've been gone for like 30 pages and I haven't bothered reading a single one, then I had to come out of nowhere with a rant about the glorious power of redundant er, power. :biggrin:

Edit: And you know what?! Back in my day, we didn't even have ext3 or reiserfs, we had FAT16 and that's the way we liked it!

[RichGem]

Power... out-age? Doesn't anybody use a UPS these days? Hell, I'll be the first guy on the block to hook his rig up to a gas generator if it looks like there's enough of a dip in power. Hell, I'd be out there on a bicycle hooked up to a turbine if that's what it took to keep my system whirring along.

Yeah, yeah... I've been gone for like 30 pages and I haven't bothered reading a single one, then I had to come out of nowhere with a rant about the glorious power of redundant er, power. :biggrin:

Edit: And you know what?! Back in my day, we didn't even have ext3 or reiserfs, we had FAT16 and that's the way we liked it!


Actually, back in your day, they had punch tape and stone tablets, right? I mean we are talking cat years, aren't we? :lol:

[chickpea]

XFS is a journaling file system just like ext3 or reiserfs, so the data loss reference is not accurate. You have the same amount of risk of losing data for a power outage with XFS compared to ext3 or reiserfs. (I work for a linux distributor and have first hand knowledge BTW)

Yes, but like all journaled filesystems it can suffer from corruption which may or may not be recoverable from the journal.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-2189-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-700.html

I am no linux guru, but I have read in various forums (especially Gentoo forum) that XFS can and DOES have issues with data loss in the event of power outages. I would be interested to know if I am wrong, how I am wrong. That is to say, please explain how I may be misinterpreting/mischaracterizing what others have posted about XFS's supposed problems with data loss during power outages.

[biomesh]

There is always the possibility of having bugs in file system code. I have a feeling that either the distribution is distributing older code or users are running older versions... check the March 2007 entry at http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ .

My company provides a community version as well as an enterprise version (i.e. supported) of Linux. If XFS had major problems like this, it would not have been included. If enough people actually have problems and complete bug reports (especially when it is data corruption), these issues get resolved quickly.

[chickpea]

There is always the possibility of having bugs in file system code. I have a feeling that either the distribution is distributing older code or users are running older versions... check the March 2007 entry at http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ .

My company provides a community version as well as an enterprise version (i.e. supported) of Linux. If XFS had major problems like this, it would not have been included. If enough people actually have problems and complete bug reports (especially when it is data corruption), these issues get resolved quickly.

Granted most of the posts concerning XFS vulnerability to data corruption on the Gentoo thread is old (cir. 2003 YIKES!), there remains a strong hesitancy on the part of many posters to recommend it. Gentoo is a source-based distro which has generally the most up to date packages as well as running the latest kernels (it is after all a "roll your own" distro) so any XFS old bugs would be squashed by now. That being said, many Gentooers continue to be reluctant to use XFS due to its apparent vulnerability to power outages in comparison to ext3 or reiser4. XFS is almost certainly a better choice right now than etx4, but probably not as bugless as reiser4 (although if you want a good flamewar just start throwing XFS or resier4 insults around on the Gentoo forums :lol:)

Just "cause we offer it" doesn't really do it for me, or "cause no one complains" doesn't give me a warm fuzzy. If you told me for example that these data corruptions were due to earlier issues with how journals were written/structured, then I would bow to your eminently reasonable answer.

As I understand it, the issue is the way XFS treats metadata in the journal, especially directory tree information. Any corrupt or missing info in a node is released back to the disk spool for use. So an entire directory can be lost if the node becomes corrupt and no amount of fscking will bring it back. Again, I know very little about filesystems. (it probably shows in that description above), but I have researched this issue for quite some time (I REALLY wanted to use XFS on my laptop) but I felt after reading MANY posts about XFS weaknesses that it was just not something that I wanted to fsck with (:lol:).

[biomesh]

Without knowing more about the previous issues, I cannot provide you an answer. I have seen this type of corruption happen on every single type of filesystem in some extent for a power outage situation (this is over a period of 10+ years and has not happened very often). The best solution is to make sure you have a UPS or that your laptop battery doesn't run out :biggrin:

[chickpea]

Without knowing more about the previous issues, I cannot provide you an answer. I have seen this type of corruption happen on every single type of filesystem in some extent for a power outage situation (this is over a period of 10+ years and has not happened very often). The best solution is to make sure you have a UPS or that your laptop battery doesn't run out :biggrin:

Undoubtedly. Only, as I understand it, XFS is prone to "worser" trouble. Again, maybe I'm just a chickenlittle here, I don't know enough about filesystem construction to be able to really explain the issue in detail. :blushing:

[Rollsshaver]

You guys know alot about this stuff.

I am on a HP Pavillion dv9740us.

It came with Vista already installed.

It seems like it works pretty good.

What can a guy do to make it better though?

I do not play games. I pretty much use my laptop to surf the web, view certain.... ahem.... videos, and store and edit pictures.

I use the boring ole' Internet Explorer, but am thinking about trying out one of these other browsers like FF or Google.

What do you Vista guys like the best?

[chickpea]

I would immediately recommend that you switch to either FF 3.0 or Google Chrome. IE is a POS. You will notice an immediate increase in speed and general happiness. Check out FF if you like a lot of add-ons. My experience, once you start using FF you will fall down the slippery slope of FOSS into Linux Land. :w00t:

[burnwood]

Sept 03,2008
Hi.

[Rollsshaver]

Sept 03,2008
Hi.

Hello.......................

[Confuzius]

I think he's just preserving proof of the beginning of the end, for posterity...

[burnwood]

Hello.......................

thank you Rolls, I feel welcomed again. I had to leave for a while due to all the
LINUX speak in this LINUX thread. (I blame chickpea)

[rabidpotatochip]

You guys know alot about this stuff.

I am on a HP Pavillion dv9740us.

It came with Vista already installed.

It seems like it works pretty good.

What can a guy do to make it better though?

I do not play games. I pretty much use my laptop to surf the web, view certain.... ahem.... videos, and store and edit pictures.

I use the boring ole' Internet Explorer, but am thinking about trying out one of these other browsers like FF or Google.

What do you Vista guys like the best?

What do Vista guys like best? XP. :tongue:

But seriously, Firefox is good and so is Opera. Opera is ridiculously fast, but it still doesn't have the same add-ons as Firefox.

Looking at the specs on that model, I doubt you'd need to do much else to it.

[burnwood]

What do Vista guys like best? XP. :tongue:

But seriously, Firefox is good and so is Opera. Opera is ridiculously fast, but it still doesn't have the same add-ons as Firefox.

Looking at the specs on that model, I doubt you'd need to do much else to it.

all this PC speak. you disgust me Chip.:001_tt2:

[burnwood]

oh I just had to show up here again for post 1900.
:a5::a5::a21::a5::a50::a50::a13::a51::a14::a14::a1 4::a14::a14::a22:

[rabidpotatochip]

all this PC speak. you disgust me Chip.:001_tt2:

I disgust everyone. It's a personal challenge. :lol:

[Lynchmeister]

Well, the snow will be flying soon enough up here in good old Wisconni, so that can only mean one thing...

I'm going to get bored and start messing with my computers again. Stay tuned. :biggrin:

Edit: Again, after a brief look, it appears that Mint wants me to do a manual fsck. I'm pretty sure it also laid out the various steps/tasks required to do so, so when I have a moment, I'll flop back over to the Linux partition, write it all down, and report back here as I'm sure I'll still be clueless.

[Confuzius]

Just changed around my visual styles abit, and I'm really digging GTK theme Shiki-colors.
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Shiki-Colors?content=86717
It's a dark/light hybrid theme. Comes in Blue, Orange, Red and Green. I'm currently using the blue one.

Here's the official screenshot
http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/86717-1.jpg

[RichGem]

Well, the snow will be flying soon enough up here in good old Wisconni, so that can only mean one thing...



... That the peasants will be forced indoors and be unable to assemble and protest?

:wink:

[chickpea]

thank you Rolls, I feel welcomed again. I had to leave for a while due to all the
LINUX speak in this LINUX thread. (I blame chickpea)

SO DO I THAT RAT B@STARD!! :eek::eek:

[OldSaw]

I know we are getting close to 3000 posts. I really expected it while I was goofing off on my mini sabbatical. I am feeling rather overwhelmed right now and it is only day three of my return to school. If you don't see me around much that is why.

So, will someone else please take post number 3000 and flair the living dog snot out of it? Who ever is going to do it should call it early and make it something to remember.

Cory, you started this behemoth, are you up to the challenge? What about Mr. G? I think it would be worthy of one of his stories. Maybe with a few pictures.

[Mindflux]

I gave up on Linux years ago in favor of FreeBSD. One of the largest problems with Linux is that the whole 'world' is comprised of too many people with too many different ideals on how things should be done. FreeBSD's 'world' is more tightly controlled, and the ports tree is just phenominal.

That being said I use a Mac now, which runs OS X.. a derivative of FreeBSD labeled Darwin.

YUMYUM.

[RichGem]

living dog snot?! ewwww

[soapbox]

um, I'd propose a different kind of flair if we're going to (verb) the living dog snot out of anything.

[burnwood]

SO DO I THAT RAT B@STARD!! :eek::eek:

you know him too? Man that guy with the thing and the other. Man that guy.

[RichGem]

um, I'd propose a different kind of flair if we're going to (verb) the living dog snot out of anything.

My vote is for no dog snot (or drool) period. Living or deceased.

[Lynchmeister]

Memo: RE: Dog Snot
Recipients: All Linux Minters
Body: There shall be NO dog snot gracing the pages of Your Highness' Mint of Linux as decreed by the Czar himself.

[RichGem]

Memo: RE: Dog Snot
Recipients: All Linux Minters
Body: There shall be NO dog snot gracing the pages of Your Highness' Mint of Linux as decreed by the Czar himself.


:ouch1:

This memo issued largely because 1) Czar's Dog does not need another excuse to slobber the place up and 2) Czar's Cat and other related subjects are easily confused by the color similarity between Linux Mint, Dog Snot, and bad cheddar.

:biggrin:

[Rollsshaver]

I am about to do a major.......... well................ something to my laptop. After using FF for a few days, I like it!! Now, I have been told to free up some room, and make this PC faster and stuff, I should uninstall IE, and most other factory installed programs that I will never use (which is many of them!!). Help me out guys. Is this sound advice? I will express my appreciation in advance for any help you fine folks can lend and old man.....

[chickpea]

First off

JKDfrag. An awesome windows defrag utility (that is lightyears better than the windows one). This should help out free up some space.

Try also the windows decrapifyer (real name). It gets rid of all the crapware that comes standard on windows OEM installs.

Second, I have always heard that uninstalling IE in windows did evil things to the OS. It is much better to just install FF as your default browser and leave IE to rot on your harddrive.

[Rollsshaver]

Chickpea,

I will do a seach on the above mentioned defrag and....... ahem........ de-CRAP-ifyer. OF course I am doing all of this in between rounds of Wii boxing, which I am kicking ass on!!

You seem to really know your stuff in regards to computers, so I will gladly take the advice to not uninstall IE. Thank you for the help...

[rabidpotatochip]

First off

JKDfrag. An awesome windows defrag utility (that is lightyears better than the windows one). This should help out free up some space.

Try also the windows decrapifyer (real name). It gets rid of all the crapware that comes standard on windows OEM installs.

Second, I have always heard that uninstalling IE in windows did evil things to the OS. It is much better to just install FF as your default browser and leave IE to rot on your harddrive.

I might be a bit late to the party but I can wholeheartedly second this advice. IE is a core part of the operating system and Windows relies on some of its files. You definitely lose some functionality when uninstalling IE. Like the legume said, it's best to just leave it alone. :wink:

[Confuzius]

Chickpea; Legume or Pulse?

[RichGem]

#2993... Cory & Dennis you'd better be ready with some awesomest (TM) flare!

Tux has spoken. So let it be written; so let it be done. :wink:

[Lynchmeister]

#2993... Cory & Dennis you'd better be ready with some awesomest (TM) flare!

Tux has spoken. So let it be written; so let it be done. :wink:

*Hem* *Haw*

You heard the man, er, penguin, Dennis. Snap to it!

:lol:

[RichGem]

*Hem* *Haw*

You heard the man, er, penguin, Dennis. Snap to it!

:lol:

Way to pass the buck, O Initiator of this Thread! :tongue_sm

[Lynchmeister]

Way to pass the buck, O Initiator of this Thread! :tongue_sm

:biggrin:

*note to self: Need to be more subtle when passing off workloads.

[RichGem]

:biggrin:

*note to self: Need to be more subtle when passing off workloads.

:biggrin:

*note to self: Czar of Cheddar easily guilted.

[rabidpotatochip]

:biggrin:

*note to self: Czar of Cheddar easily guilted.




:biggrin:

Note to self: Figure out what everyone's smiling about.

[RichGem]

:biggrin:

Note to self: Figure out what everyone's smiling about.


Note to Chip: :biggrin: ... you missed a lot while you were gone. read back a few pages.... huge revolt in the Czardom of Cheddar. Cory barely made it out alive.

[Mr. Gillette]

:ouch1:

This memo issued largely because 1) Czar's Dog does not need another excuse to slobber the place up and 2) Czar's Cat and other related subjects are easily confused by the color similarity between Linux Mint, Dog Snot, and bad cheddar.

:biggrin:

Don't get so far ahead of yourself. Agreed on the cheeses/color/dog snot, but if you've ever been over near LaCrosse, WI on a nippy autumn Friday night with the Walleye being delicately pan fried, the potato pancakes crisping around the edges and the coleslaw piquant with vinegar, caraway and pimentos, with just a hint of the sweetness of real Hellman's...with a slice of hearty rye bread...wellsir, NOTHING could wash all this down better than a cold bottle of Dog Snot Lager! It truly DOES make your nose as wet as a setters!:tongue_sm

OHMIGOD!!!! I was the lucky one with 3000? And to think...I'm the guy who took my Walmart computer over to a young friend, went to Best Buy to put some new memory in it, and proudly proclaim that I don't even know how to pronounce LINUX...I think it's "LINE-UX" But it could be lynn-ux.....what is it?

How does it work? Better get after some flair.:lol::lol::a50::a50::a5::a22::thumbsup::a50: :a24::a14::a14::a14::a14::a44::a44::a54::a27::a29: :a4::a39::happybday::gun_bandana::bayrum2::clap::t humbup1::lol::c1::ladysman::quickdraw:shaving::cor nut::ciappa::jump::thumbsup::a30::a21::a22::a43::a 34::a46::a26::a37::a29::a2::taz::taz::punk::osama: :whistling::smartass::oops::euro::censored::boat:: nuke::kyle1::ouch1::kyle1::ouch1::jump::thumbsup: