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Holton181
11-16-2007, 07:10 AM
This winter, I'm going to take the plunge. Times in the past, however, I've had some... issues with getting it clean. Now that I have a DE in my arsenal, I thought I'd try it again. Any tips out there for a novice head shaver?

biomesh
11-16-2007, 09:19 AM
If you are going to use a DE, take it slow the first couple of times. Don't aim for BBS, and you will most likely find some trouble spots. The area around the ears can be a but tricky, but not impossible.

Most of these suggestions apply to a newbie to DE shaving their face, but when you shave your head, you really can't see everywhere you are shaving, so you have to use touch more.

Consettmag
11-16-2007, 12:23 PM
Matt..

I've had the usual baldy areas on my head and the "crop-circle" for some years now. So I took the plunge over a year ago and shaved my head. It is a strange experience at first, because we've probably all had hair at sometime, but once you do it it's great.

I shave my head every Wednesday night so it's the right length for the weekend. I now use any DE, but at first it did take a bit of doing. The top tip I would give anyone is - use two mirrors where possible. I use the concaved, adjustable mirror for daily shaving but for my head I flip it over to the normal side. That and one of the mirrored doors from the bathroom cabinet, when positioned right makes the job much, much easier when doing the back - but any 2 mirrors should do.

The second tip is, as mentioned, take it slow. There is nothing worse than finishing off a 3 pass head-shave, getting cocky and speeding up only to skin youself (slant & merkur blade?, get the picture? :eek: ) - it hurts like hell and bleeds like crazy, not good!

Tip three goes without saying - Go with the grain but having said that watch the back of your neck. I go againt the grain here - from back of the neck to the top off the head. If I go the other way, like how you would normally comb it, a rash is nearly instant. Best to feel your way here.

Also, it's a good way to get shot of all those soaps, blades and creams that you are not crazy about anymore. I lather up on my head with the brush and any cream I am sick of but haven't the heart to throw out, I use. With 3 slow, careful passes you can easily get BBS.

One last one, it's a good way to experiment and practise your blade angle and pressure without really doing any harm.

Hope this helps and good luck!

denissawyer
11-16-2007, 12:30 PM
I have all my hair and for the summer I shaved my head to the skull. I used a headblade it was awesome hoever I was convinced I looked like an ex con and grew my hair back. Haedblade definetely worth it.

micah1_8
11-16-2007, 12:33 PM
Normally, I'm all for the retro-way. I love shaving with a DE and I love using a brush and soap for my lathering needs. But--- I have got to say, that sometimes, the right option isn't the old way. I've got nothing but respect for anyone who attacks the noggin with their fatboy, or even, maybe especially, a straight, but I've got to give the nod to modern tech on this. I use a headblade razor for my skull. It is just so quick and it gives me BBS every time. I can't imagine hacking at my head with my Superspeed after using this thing. While their is a certain novelty and some serious macho-cred associated with shearing the bean with a safety razor, the headblade experience, for my money, can't be beat. Of course, there are those that say the headblade is refuse. So as always, insert standard YMMV clause here.

YMMV Clause:
13324

Holton181
11-16-2007, 12:41 PM
I've heard it go either way about the headblade. What makes it so good? Also, is it better in this situation to shave in the shower? What about prep?

I'm going to set up an appointment at the Grooming Lounge for the first time and get it done by a "professional" I'll let you guys know how it goes.

Hutch
11-16-2007, 12:42 PM
+1 on the Headblade. I shave my head almost everyday with it and it does a great job. I find the DE on the head too slow and I don't get a better shave. With the Headblade I get BBS with every shave and never had any irritation and it takes two quick passes.

Hutch
11-16-2007, 12:45 PM
In all honesty I've been shaving my head off and on for almost 6 years. I've had professionals (barbers) shave my head and it has never been anywhere near as good as my own shave, face is a different story.

micah1_8
11-16-2007, 12:47 PM
I've heard it go either way about the headblade. What makes it so good? Also, is it better in this situation to shave in the shower? What about prep?

I'm going to set up an appointment at the Grooming Lounge for the first time and get it done by a "professional" I'll let you guys know how it goes.


For me, the headblade is just so fast... it's very intuitive. You just sort of glide it across your head and it does all the work. It only takes a few minutes to learn how to use, and then you'll wonder why you would use anything else. I highly recommend the headblade brand shaving creams for this purpose as well. Although, I have recently found a shaving gel at the dollar tree that runs circles around anything I've ever used. That stuff is as slick as the proverbial... But yeah, I use the knock-off atra blades on my headblade, which a lot of people find too sharp, but I've had excellent luck with them.

rmedtr6
11-16-2007, 12:55 PM
I have been shaving my head for the past 10 years 3X a week and am currently using a Super Speed to handle the task. I have tried the Head Blade but I am so used to shaving with a handled razor, I was constantly cutting myself with it. I have a mirror in the shower and use a brush and soap to lather up. Shave from front to the crown of my head and from the neck up to the crown for my first pass. Second pass is from left ear to center of head and then right ear to center of head. Touch up for me, is usually from ear to crown on a diagonal pass.

I highly recommend shaving in the shower. I get the best shaves, including on my face, in the shower. As mentioned earlier....Take it slow! Probably the most difficult part of DE Head shaving is when you initiate a pass and first put the razor head on your own. If the angle isn't right, it can bite. If I ever cut myself, this is when it happens. Good luck

iron maiden
11-16-2007, 01:51 PM
Sometimes (in the summer) I'll shave the sides of my head with either a M3 or headblade.. Also, my Panasonic foil electric does a good job at getting rid of a good bit of the hair on the sides (still need to do a razor pass to get the stubble)

This is the only time I'd ever use an M3 or electric or cartridge razor...I don't do this often enough to want to attempt it with a DE. SInce the colder weather, I've already let the hair grow out to about 1/32 of an inch...even a little hair helps insulate as opposed to a smooth dome:biggrin1:

biomesh
11-16-2007, 03:47 PM
If you are worried about time, shave your head at night. You can enjoy your shave and if you have some razor burn, it should be gone by morning.

FatboySlim
11-16-2007, 07:29 PM
If you are worried about time, shave your head at night. You can enjoy your shave and if you have some razor burn, it should be gone by morning.

Yep, I always shave my head at night. No rush, a spa-type experience. I discovered this forum, DE shaving, and this whole wet shaving sub-culture while originally looking up info on head shaving!

Tried the headblade (cool, but just too awkward for me), cartridges (expensive, not BBS enough for me), and a bunch of different Gillette DEs and blades.

The foolproof combination, for me anyway, is a Dorco blade in an old blue-tipped Gillette Super Speed. Very forgiving, but capable of better BBS head shaves than any cartridge. I like to keep it slick, and shave my head every other night. I get about three to four good head shaves out of a Dorco, the second and third shaves being optimal.

I use either Proraso green cream, or a good thick/slick soap like Penhaligon's, and keep the areas I'm shaving wet and slick. I wash my head first with glycerin soap, then lather and shave one half-section of my head at a time (prevents the soap from drying out), doing the entire back of my head last. I work slowly and smoothly, paying lots of attention to keeping a constant blade angle, with long overlapping strokes and light pressure. I do one pass ATG, carefully all over, then touch-ups generally ATG. Takes about 20 to 25 minutes for BBS, but I'm slow. And, I just enjoy doing it. :cool:

Don't be stingy with the water or cream/soap. Find a good, light grip technique that will allow you to maintain the blade angle along the curves of your head. I only cut myself when I try to force awkward angles, or don't use enough water/cream/soap. "Flow" is important, for me.

You already successfully wet shave your face, so you're way ahead, man. I found that for me, getting an irritation-free BBS face shave took a lot more time and experience to learn correctly than getting a BBS head shave. Take the plunge, you'll like it.

Bald and bold, my brother - no drugs, plugs, or rugs! :thumbup:

Ricardo
11-16-2007, 08:39 PM
The top tip I would give anyone is - use two mirrors where possible. I use the concaved, adjustable mirror for daily shaving but for my head I flip it over to the normal side. That and one of the mirrored doors from the bathroom cabinet, when positioned right makes the job much, much easier when doing the back - but any 2 mirrors should do.

I find it easier to do the back of my head blind (without mirrors). The double mirrors confuse me. :sad:

Bahamianlvr
11-16-2007, 08:56 PM
I shave head and face at night and I use the Headblade to shave my head. I can't contrast using a DE on my head as I used a wet/dry electric shaver before wetshaving. The Headblade is very fast and easy for me and their pre and post headshaving products aren't bad either.

jk47
11-17-2007, 12:08 AM
I shave my head every other day with a Slant and BIC blade. BBS everytime, no nicks, cuts or irritaion 90% of the time.

I find prep the most important aspect of the shave. Hot shower, shave stick, shave cream, voila BBS. Proper water to lather ratio is very important to a trouble free shave.

biomesh
11-17-2007, 05:55 AM
The theme of this thread is YMMV. :biggrin:

Try different methods, you will find what works for you. I personally have never used a mirror to shave the back of my head, and use only a DE (or a M3 in the shower if in a hurry). I like to use a bigger brush so I don't have to reload the brush and can cover more area with each pass of the brush. I even use witch hazel as aftershave sometimes. I generally only use creams or soaps used as shave sticks so I can get a really good lather built up.

gagarin
11-17-2007, 07:50 AM
I shave my head and face daily in the shower with a 40's SS and Red IP. The SS is the closest I've gotten to an automatic shave. I shave my head mostly by touch, with little use of a mirror, and the SS gives me consistent, comfortable bbs results.

I started DE shaving at about the same time as I began to shave my head. I found that DE's give me a much better result than cartridges, because I can go ATG without the abrasions multi-blade cartridges produce. For me, using DE's on both head and face doubles the pleasure.

Chuck

waliguy
11-20-2007, 05:27 PM
This is a terrific thread! I shave my head every day. I'm a Mach III guy on the head...soon to be getting acclimated to my new DE. Gonna get the practice on the face first...then onto the head.

CDG33
11-20-2007, 06:16 PM
I may have to look into headblade. What about in terms of products. What do you guys use on your heads?

krawlx
11-22-2007, 09:10 PM
It's been some months since I last shaved my head, but this thread inspired me to dust of my headblade. I whipped up a superlather, and went to work. I have to say, it's times like this that really remind how big a difference a good lather makes. When I use it on my face, because I'm now acclimated to it, I don't realize how much smoother it makes the shave.

Hutch
11-23-2007, 06:34 AM
Usually I use Headblade Headlsick and Headlube. Sometimes I just use my Trumpers shave cream Lime or Coconut.

micah1_8
11-23-2007, 09:50 AM
I may have to look into headblade. What about in terms of products. What do you guys use on your heads?

I usually use Headslick, but sometimes I'll mix it up and use some Tree Hut Brazilnut cream (non-foaming, brushless, found in the women's fru-fru aisle at walmart near the foot scrubs). Recently though, I've become enamoured with "On the Go" brand "freeze shave gel" in a tube (also brushless). I got this stuff at the local Dollar Tree and I've been very impressed.

profipsy
11-23-2007, 10:28 AM
My hair started going south in my late teens (genes can be so cruel) but i did not start shaving my noggin until about ten years ago......god i wish i had taken the plunge earlier...the old man hairy halo was so uncool and i get way more attention with the smooth love dome....

I sometimes use my DE but prefer a headblade or Mach 3 for a close accurate shave. If you mess it up with a DE it will slice your scalp, which will usually result in a heavy bleed as the skin is tauter here than the rest of your face / body. I always shave against the grain as i feel it get a smoother finish, then slap one a good moisturizer.

MaxP
11-23-2007, 11:34 AM
Matt-

I've been shaving the top of my dome for about 8 years. A friend challenged me to just start shaving it one day. He said, 'Give it up. Those few hairs aren't going to find enough friends to matter." He was right.:001_tongu

That said, I think head shaving IS a good place for a cartridge razor. Gasp!! I use a Gilette Fusion. It does a fine job with never a nick or cut. Just remember to keep it off your face!

profipsy
11-23-2007, 03:01 PM
first time i shaved my head there was less hair in the bath than if I'd done a leg...:em3300:

Bahamianlvr
11-24-2007, 04:26 PM
I may have to look into headblade. What about in terms of products. What do you guys use on your heads?

Headblade needs to start paying me for endorsements! I use the Headscrub, Headslick and the Headlube. If there's something you want to buy from their site, use the code "myspace" when checking out for a discount. And yes, they're in my top friends :thumbup1: .

BurmaShave
11-25-2007, 06:31 AM
I guess its quite a shock to see yourself for the first time without any hair...some of us are unlucky that we're losing that once great society of hair and shaving what remains is a big step.

A friend of mine wanted to use Rogaine but found out you have to use it forever and that stuff is very expensive and would cut into his brandy and cigar money, not to mention his steak budget and side effect is impotence.

Needless to say he decided to shave what was left. It took a while getting used to the new look but I have to say that I'm tempted to do it myself should I get to the point of hair loss that he was.

Spikestrip
11-25-2007, 01:40 PM
I have considered using a DE to shave my head, but I think it would be difficult to maintain the correct angle.

My routine is to shave in the shower using a Mach 3. I get a BBS shave quickly without having to pay close attention (I'm not a morning person).

I have been experimenting with a Headblade, but so far I haven't been able to get as close a shave as I do with the M3.

Clyde

Holton181
11-26-2007, 12:19 PM
I kept on going back and forth about getting a Headblade, but I didn't want to buy it if I wasn't going to like it, or even stop shaving my head at some point. I just went ahead with using my DE. My gear:

Gold Aristocrat with a Crystal Blade
Edwin Jagger Best Badger Brush ( I think it's called the Georgian. Whatever the case, it's my favorite:biggrin: )
Grooming Lounge Shave Oil
Honeybee Lime Soap
Barc Shave Cream
Barc Bump Down


I know, I probably used too much product, but who cares? I used some old clippers to get my hair down to shaving level. After that, I put on the shave oil with wet hands, like I would my face when I have some growth. While that sunk in, I prepared my lather. My first application came out a little watery, because I didn't use enough soap and too much water, but it was fine for getting my hair and scalp mositurized. I put two head washcloths on my head because my dome's that big. While that was working, I added some barc to make some superlather.

I had my wife do the shave, as I was still too nervous from my previous attempts to shave my head. At first, I thought this might be a bad idea, because my wife's never touched a DE before. but she did an excellent job. I(or she) did two passes WTG using very short strokes. I had her use a very acute angle, maybe 20 degrees. No nicks, and what's most important, no bumps. After the shave, I used the still wet washcloth to wipe off the excess lather, and applied some Barc Bump Down to prevent ingrowns.

It was a fantastic, yet time-consuming expierence. It took almost an hour all told. My head isn't BBS either, but It'll pass as bald as I work on my technique. I'll probably do it again with my wife next week and cut back on the oil.

One last question for my bald companions; do you put anything different on your heads to moisturize? This morning, my scalp was very, very dry. I, put on some of my Lubriderm, but it still looks a little dry. Thanls again for everybody's help

micah1_8
11-26-2007, 12:51 PM
:shaving:

After I shave my head, usually splash on my after-shave of the day (usually Pinaud's hell-burn, er, I mean Bay Rum). Then, after towling off--I did mention I shave in the bath right?-- I apply a little lotion to the dome. I usually use Headlube, but sometimes, if I'm feeling froggy, I'll slap a little utter balm on there. At any rate, I like to wait a few minutes after applying AS so that the pores have time to recalibrate. I usually apply another dime sized dollop of Headlube in the mornings before heading out for work. (I shave at night.) I swear, Headblade should send me some goodies for all the shilling I've done in this thread alone; I just really like their product.

shadow
11-26-2007, 02:39 PM
...I have recently found a shaving gel at the dollar tree that runs circles around anything I've ever used. That stuff is as slick as the proverbial...

what shaving gel would that be?

alabamalawyer
11-26-2007, 06:19 PM
I'll have to give my :thumbup: for using the Headblade. I like the Headlube when I shave my head in the shower. If I shave at the sink I will use a brush and cream (really like Mugso Real and Proraso for headshaving). Nothing like a Proraso shave followed by Prorosa splash on the head (especially in the hot summer months in Alabama -- which are about 10 months out of the year).

brooklynlou
11-26-2007, 08:43 PM
I have been shaving my head for the past 10 years 3X a week and am currently using a Super Speed to handle the task. I have tried the Head Blade but I am so used to shaving with a handled razor, I was constantly cutting myself with it. I have a mirror in the shower and use a brush and soap to lather up. Shave from front to the crown of my head and from the neck up to the crown for my first pass. Second pass is from left ear to center of head and then

right ear to center of head. Touch up for me, is usually from ear to crown on a diagonal pass.

I highly recommend shaving in the shower. I get the best shaves, including on my face, in the shower. As mentioned earlier....Take it slow! Probably the most difficult part of DE Head shaving is when you initiate a pass and first put the razor head on your own. If the angle isn't right, it can bite. If I ever cut myself, this is when it happens. Good luck

I hate to use the word 'Ditto" but ...

I came into DE shaving in reverse. I've been shaving my head with DE razors for nearly 10 years. I only started using DE's on my face about year ago.

When I first started, it took forever to shave my head. I now can do it in less than 15 minutes.

If I've let my hair grow too much (more than 2 weeks) I use a electric clipper to give myself a quick super crew cut. Basically get my head hair down to a stubble. This takes about 2 minutes.

I then go to the shower. Shave my face, clean myself off. And then with the warm water still running, I tackle my head. I don't use a mirror, I go by touch. The goal is to get the head 95% shaved while in the shower. You are not going for perfection here. If you leave a rough spot or two, don't worry. This takes at most 10 minutes.

15 minutes after shaving, once my head dries, I'll feel around for any hairs / spots I've missed and gently pass a BIC single disposable over my dry head almost like a comb. I then massage a nice sized dollop of cocoa butter all over my cleanly shaven head.

My other suggestion is to use the dulled razors that you are no longer sharp enough for shaving your face to shave your head. Your facial hair is fairly coarse. Your head hair is not. Using the duller blade also cuts down on self inflicted nicks.

Basically, I shave my face for two weeks with a well maintained Derby (ie dry the blade after each shave). After two weeks I take the blade out of my Futur and store it in a little box. When needed, I place the dulled Derby in my Gillette Super Speed and shave my head. I usually get one or two head shaves from the dulled blade before I finally have to dispose of it.

As for soap. I'm not picky about product. I usually toss all the small bits of soap that are too small to shower with (or soaps I get from hotels) into the magic "cup 'o shaving".

As for brushes, I use my old "not ready for prime time - retired" brushes to lather up my head.

krawlx
11-26-2007, 09:54 PM
For the Headblade users in this thread:

I'm coming to the states for a few months and am wondering where I can buy the Headblade blades. Do they have a wide distribution? I have been using the Gillette Atra blades, and as I remember the Headblade blades were much better.

profipsy
11-27-2007, 02:00 AM
I have to buy them on line, I've never seen head blade on the shops in the UK :angry:

micah1_8
11-27-2007, 07:10 AM
what shaving gel would that be?

The brand is "On the Go" and it's called "Freeze Shave Gel" It's in a blue plastic tube with a fliptop. It smells kind of funny, but don't let that put you off.

As for those looking for headblade brand blades, I've seen them at Walgreens. Kmart carries the razor, the cream, and the lotion, but not the blades... go figure.

Hutch
11-27-2007, 08:27 AM
I bought Headblade blades at Walgreens.

On another Headblade note my S4 arrived last night and I did my first shave with it this morning. The S4 is awesome, it feels way better than the Classic and Sport.

Consettmag
11-28-2007, 11:51 AM
:smile: Great to see this thread has gettin' some mileage..

I've noticed a lot of folk plum for the headblade! Cool, never tried one, good luck to all who prefer it, I just thought I'd adapt somehow with what I've got and went with the DE, all a matter of taste.

One other thing I forgot to mention in the last post was the hold of the razor. I am no expert at all of this but I've shaved my nut for some time now. As opposed to holding the razor at the tip as you would do for the face, for the head, I have adopted a kinda "pen-holding" trick whereupon your fingers are more down the handle and sometimes almost touching the razor head. You get the angle, pressure and control just right and with a bit of practise you can easily do long, swathing swipes from the back of the neck to your fringe in 2-3 seconds, I stress, with practise! (I did it tonight no bother with my Slant and a merkur blade)

This different handle holding I use or "pen-holding" or even a "piccolo-hold" (whatever) gave me another idea. Why not try everyday shaving with this further-down-the-handle technique? Yes, you guessed it, I have tried it and really like this style for everday face shaving. I like the idea of controlling the angle and pressure as you would when ....well, everday writing I suppose. Makes sense to me that further down the pen determines how you write.

Anywho, I've had great results this way. Might not work for everyone, so don't flip, just saying what works for me.

As always, Good Luck! :thumbup1:

micah1_8
11-28-2007, 01:55 PM
I have adopted a kinda "pen-holding" trick whereupon your fingers are more down the handle and sometimes almost touching the razor head.


I usually do "choke" the razor when I shave... It's a little '61 SS and with that tiny handle, I find that gripping near the head gives me massive control. However I do use a four-finger see-saw type grip.

alabamalawyer
11-28-2007, 05:28 PM
On another Headblade note my S4 arrived last night and I did my first shave with it this morning. The S4 is awesome, it feels way better than the Classic and Sport.

I picked up a new S4 off ebay but my wife is holding it hostage (i.e., it is a Christmas present). Can't wait to try it.

I found that I prefer the sport version over the original, so am looking foward to the S4 to see if the extra weight makes a difference (even though already get great shave from either the Classic and Sport--have to try S4).

Skygod
11-29-2007, 05:12 AM
Another vote for headblade. I shave in the shower, use sorbolene as the shave lubricant and takes less than ten minutes ATG.

Still using multi-blade for my face but have joined the legion of the converted.

Have my Art of Shaving fine brush from ebay, (only arrived today) so am looking forward to the scent of wet badger! :) Have also bought a Merkur Futur from ebay but it may take a couple of weeks to reach the Antipodes. (Australia)

I remember when I joined the Australian Army in 1982 I was issued with a shaving brush and safety razor. Wonder what happened to them? Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing!

Tilden
11-29-2007, 06:17 AM
The HeadBlade is my weapon of choice when shaving my head...I LOVE and use ALL of their preps/ creams as well (scrub, slick, moisturizer... glossy for me, and of course the shave bag) I have been a faithful patron for the last 8 years...I would highly recommend them to anyone

Hutch
11-29-2007, 06:40 AM
I picked up a new S4 off ebay but my wife is holding it hostage (i.e., it is a Christmas present). Can't wait to try it.

I found that I prefer the sport version over the original, so am looking foward to the S4 to see if the extra weight makes a difference (even though already get great shave from either the Classic and Sport--have to try S4).

You're going to love the S4. I thought the Sport and Classic were great but the feel of the S4, with the extra weight, it just does a great job. Plus it looks real cool sitting in my Ansgar Schwarzweisskeramik scuttle with my Merkur 38C.

alabamalawyer
11-29-2007, 01:41 PM
Plus it looks real cool sitting in my Ansgar Schwarzweisskeramik scuttle

Great, something else that my AD makes me think I need :biggrin1: