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Irishpride1986
05-03-2012, 07:19 PM
Hi new to the b&b just wanted to know if after all the cleaning
Are vinage razors really safe to use

Price
05-03-2012, 07:21 PM
I think it's safe to say that pretty much everyone who frequents this site thinks that they are. :biggrin1:


(Welcome, by the way. Browse around some, and you'll see some outstanding vintage razors that guys shave with every day.)

GreekGuy
05-03-2012, 07:21 PM
Hi new to the b&b just wanted to know if after all the cleaning
Are vinage razors really safe to use

Yes. The majority of members here routinely use them with zero issues whatsoever

kmev
05-03-2012, 07:22 PM
Most pathogens die quickly outside the body. A proper cleaning and disinfection and they're safe.

Luc
05-03-2012, 07:23 PM
I'm still alive and well(look at my picture)!

With proper cleaning (as mentioned above), it won't be an issue.

Irishpride1986
05-03-2012, 07:32 PM
Im just a bit worried about it cause
I have a lot of people tellin me not to get any cause they might not be safe
Evean after all the cleanin

Osborn Cox
05-03-2012, 07:35 PM
Do you use the silverware at a restarant when you dine out?

huntingdan
05-03-2012, 07:35 PM
All of mine are vintage except for one, never had a problem after cleaning them up and disinfecting them.

turtle
05-03-2012, 07:38 PM
Welcome to B&B,

Stop into a beauty supply or barber supply house and pick up a bottle of barbicide or marvycide. These are both disinfectants that have been used for years to disinfect blades, razors, scissors, and all kinds of tools used in the industry.

10 minute soak in a 32 to 1 solution will kill everything from HIV/HEP-B down.

http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u414/turtle-web/P1010021.jpg

mistervee123
05-03-2012, 07:40 PM
+1 on the Barbicide... and please note, that on the bottle it also says: Anti-Rust Formula. It's gentle on vintage plating, but tuff on germs and viruses.

the_edski
05-03-2012, 07:42 PM
+1 to turtle's advice. Or you can use scrubbing bubbles, or rubbing alcohol, or good ol' fashioned hot water and dish soap if you don't feel comfortable with Barbicide. Just whatever you do, don't use bleach!

parihart
05-03-2012, 07:42 PM
I use two Gillette razors one from 1960 and another from 1970. I've been using them regularly since 1996- no problems, no negative health effects.

Irishpride1986
05-03-2012, 07:46 PM
Lol after readin all the posts I think its safe thanks

Irishpride1986
05-03-2012, 07:54 PM
Lol after readin all the posts I think its safe thanks<br>

LouBarraza
05-03-2012, 08:28 PM
Yeah,its safe.I gave my vintage DE razors a quick soak in alcohol and no problems at all.

rickboone1
05-03-2012, 08:34 PM
Welcome to B&B,

Stop into a beauty supply or barber supply house and pick up a bottle of barbicide or marvycide. These are both disinfectants that have been used for years to disinfect blades, razors, scissors, and all kinds of tools used in the industry.

10 minute soak in a 32 to 1 solution will kill everything from HIV/HEP-B down.

http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u414/turtle-web/P1010021.jpg

Holy crap, you're supposed to dilute that stuff?

Well, if you find a vintage razor in the wild, it likely hasn't been used in years. So, anything that might have hopped on it is long gone. Also, you'll put a new blade in it anyway, (if talking DE). Or, if you're talking straights, you'll hone a new edge/ fresh metal anyway. So.... Hakuna Matata... (it means no worries)....or so Lion King says

Rjack
05-03-2012, 08:39 PM
everyone who uses old razors eventually dies. This is a fact.

taco8slo
05-03-2012, 08:47 PM
I'm still alive and well(look at my picture)!

With proper cleaning (as mentioned above), it won't be an issue.

Thanks for the good laugh : )

sylynce
05-03-2012, 08:47 PM
I think that it is wise to be aware of the concern for disinfection if you are looking to purchase any used product that is likely to have the capability to penetrate your sin (the body's first line of defense).

Having said that, any barbershop using a straight blade doesn't toss them out after each client- they get cleaned, sharpened, and reused. Same for you- sterilize and disinfect any used product, get a new blade, and it is likely cleaner than a brand new razor that has been handled by god-knows how many people. Once sterilized, by definition, it is safe for use.

yes- I have worked in many, many laboratories (including a CDC)

Jeff

turtle
05-03-2012, 09:15 PM
I even put NEW razors through a 10 bath in barbicide. What's 10 minutes? The time it takes to soak your brush, set up, wash your face, and decide what soap to use?

Straight Rasier User
05-03-2012, 10:43 PM
Well most saftey razors are safe to use.

In fact all of them except the Open Comb ones ... so if you have some of the Open Comb Razors send them to me for safe keeping.

whavens
05-04-2012, 07:13 AM
I have several I just took out of the case and put a blade in and shaved. If it doesn't kill me it will make me stronger.

Vickers
05-04-2012, 07:15 AM
Of course they aren't safe...FOR MY BEARD!

arm017
05-04-2012, 07:29 AM
I think that is a great question that you asked! We are all so goo goo over razors, some might not even think about it. Very good idea on barbicide.

takeshi
05-04-2012, 07:40 AM
I have a lot of people tellin me not to get any cause they might not be safe

As always, consider the source. Who? What do they know about sterilization of used DE's? "Lot of people" and correct aren't necessarily the same thing.

RockyNomad
05-04-2012, 07:51 AM
Do you use the silverware at a restarant when you dine out?

Don't forget about surgical instruments, dental instruments, etc.

duck dive steve
05-04-2012, 08:00 AM
I'm glad I read this thread. I bought an old gillette the other day and was going to use it tomorrow. Never even thought about this. Now I feel really daft. Good Post.

Prof. Moriarty
05-04-2012, 08:01 AM
Welcome to B&B

ladykate
05-04-2012, 08:02 AM
Hi new to the b&b just wanted to know if after all the cleaning
Are vinage razors really safe to use

I disinfect everything with Barbicide - including new razors. No where on the package does it say new razors are sterile. I hone razors for others occasionally and I never start the process without disinfecting the razor. That is common sense in this day of fire-safe virus infections. For my personal use, most of my stuff is vintage to say the least and, other than a third lip, I am just fine.

I just shaved with a 150 year old straight. No matter how you spin it - that is a cool feeling. So much has past through during that razor's lifetime and here I am getting a beautiful shave from it. I don't care if it sounds Hollywood - it is just nice. There is a zen to it all that can't be beat. If you have to shave, might as well do it with class.

The DEs and straights, in my opinion, offer the cleanest way to shave. Cartridge razors build up so much crap in them that they are cesspools of filth after a few shaves. If I was going to be afraid of germs when shaving - it would be with cartridges.

Irishpride1986
05-04-2012, 08:02 AM
I was asking cause they come in contact with blood n even after
The blood has dried wat about what grows from that dried blood

njpaddy
05-04-2012, 08:11 AM
I'm pretty confident that some Scrubbing Bubbles and a soft toothbrush will kill most anything on an old razor. Bet my old DE's are cleaner than the knives and forks I eat with at restaurants.

duck dive steve
05-04-2012, 08:14 AM
Just put it in some hot water and disinfectant. Now looking on amazon for barbacide.

PugslyCat
05-04-2012, 08:22 AM
Just because it's free advice from strangers on some forum doesn't mean you should trust it. If you had done a little more research you would understand the dangers of these death traps:nuke:. Just send all of your vintage razors to me and I will sequester them them so that they don't endanger others:shifty:.

Seriously, though, a vintage razor is usually made of a hard, non-porous material that isn't going to shelter nasties spreading any health issues. The forums here have good, well vetted advice on how to clean up old razors. A soak in Barbacide, Marvacide, rubbing alcohol, Scrubbing Bubbles, or other cleaning solutions followed by good old soap and water should do the trick.

I started with a bunch of vintage razors and rotated them through baths of soapy water, Lysol, alcohol and bleach. I didn't know what I was doing and was fortunate to not damage any of the plating or dull the plastic handles on some of the razors.

ladykate
05-04-2012, 08:23 AM
I was asking cause they come in contact with blood n even after
The blood has dried wat about what grows from that dried blood

Dried blood, dried skin cells, dried, whiskers, dried toe jam - it all is a breeding ground once it gets damp. You should clean anything that has the likelihood of cutting you - even if you are the only one using it.

However, I detect some sort of black and white barrier that seems to imply that because something may have once had germs on it that it cannot ever be used again (safely). Cleaning and disinfecting is the proven way to make instruments safe. As was said, many of our hospital instruments, restaurant cutlery, and other daily items have had germs on them - including blood. Because something had germs on it at one time does not make it unusable. Like I mentioned earlier, that new razor in the clean bubble pack was probably subjected to lots of greebles. Just clean it, disinfect it, and use it.

Irishpride1986
05-04-2012, 11:41 AM
Anyone know of any good places to get vintage razors in nyc

Go West Young Man
05-04-2012, 11:44 AM
Thing is, these razors are metal so nothing bad can live IN them. All the nasties live ON the surface, so once you rinse them off your razor is as clean as it ever was.
The trick is that crusted, dried residue (cream/hair/blood/etc) doesn't let go easily, so you need soaps, hot water, disinfectants, etc to break them up and get them off the surface, but at the end of the day all you're doing is physically removing all surface contaminants.

echotron
05-04-2012, 12:20 PM
Well, let''s see, I used for the first time this morning a Vintage VALET AutoStrop razor with FEATHER blade ... and I'm still ALIVE! :thumbup: (As of 3:19pm EST)

Of course, I cleaned and disinfected it first with Scrubbing Bubbles (cleans off the gunk and is anti-bacterial), then use Viricide (have it at work why not) and doused the razor in 70% Alcohol (again, got it on hand why not).

The BIGGEST DANGER with Vintage razors is the rusty old blade left in the razor by the seller and you cutting yourself on that blade! Can you say Tetanus? :cursing:

Jim
05-04-2012, 12:28 PM
Remember to put a new blade in that razor! After all, that new blade is what you are really shaving with, not the "razor".

JRL
05-04-2012, 12:40 PM
I really don't think you need to go out and buy some special potion. If you're concerned, most homes have lots of chemicals that will kill bacteria and other pathogens. Hydrogen peroxide is mild and very effective. A 15min. soak in the standard 3% solution works well. If someone in the house colors his/her hair, they may have the 20% strength -- even better! Rubbing alcohol is also very effective. Remember, it works as it dries. Immerse the razor in the alcohol for a minute or so, then set it aside to dry. And if you're still not comfortable, you can go to the laundry room and get out the bleach. After all, when you see all those guys in the haz-mat suits trying to decontaminate the latest anthrax scare, chances are they're using diluted bleach.

Krona Kruiser
05-04-2012, 12:47 PM
Im just a bit worried about it cause
I have a lot of people tellin me not to get any cause they might not be safe
Evean after all the cleanin

Agree with them...it's cheaper if they're a "novelty" item.

Rob72
05-04-2012, 01:07 PM
Anyone know of any good places to get vintage razors in nyc
Not first-hand, but I tell you what, I'd be hitting little hole-in-the-wall second-hand stores like a roofer hitting nails, watching rain coming! With all the stuff people store(hoard), especially in cities, I'd say you have some prime hunting ground!:001_cool:

leonidas
05-04-2012, 01:08 PM
.......no, don't believe them.......

.......... send all your vintage razors to me........... i will take care of them...

.............remember, i am doing this only for your health and welfare..........

M80
05-04-2012, 01:13 PM
Vintage razors killed the dinosaurs.

Irishpride1986
05-04-2012, 01:19 PM
Lol

Deep Red
05-04-2012, 03:42 PM
Hi new to the b&b just wanted to know if after all the cleaning
Are vinage razors really safe to use


Only if you don't have a drink before you shave :D

ladykate
05-04-2012, 04:05 PM
Only if you don't have a drink before you shave :D

ummmm... I like to have a nice shot of scotch on the sink and take a sip between passes. Very comforting. Shaving is my equivalent of the Japanese Tea Ceremony. The tea is great, but the ceremony is the overriding joy. Instead of "The Way of Tea", it is "The Way of Shaving."

Of course, if it is early in the day when I'm shaving, I never drink scotch. Beer... it's not just for breakfast.

dpmtherrien
05-04-2012, 04:19 PM
Yes. you'll be fine with vintage. As long as there are no defects with them.

thatsilverguy
05-04-2012, 04:33 PM
.......no, don't believe them.......

.......... send all your vintage razors to me........... i will take care of them...

.............remember, i am doing this only for your health and welfare..........

Man Harry, you beat me to it. Old razors are mean evil wicked nasty. But don't they look
KEWL!?
241163

Seriously, this one's been a bit of a biter and I'm still standing

luvmysuper
05-04-2012, 04:35 PM
Is it safe?



241165

Sledgehammer39
05-04-2012, 04:41 PM
Another vote for vintage razors being safe, after cleaning them.

razumny
05-04-2012, 04:46 PM
Whenever I get a new razor, I go over it with a toothbrush and toothpaste, then boiling water. I'm trying to source a Barbicide tower here in Norway, and getting the actual stuff, too, but not having much luck thus far.

shuasdad
05-04-2012, 10:21 PM
Safe? Since when was that a consideration?

shakin_jake
05-06-2012, 11:36 PM
http://badgerandblade.com/vb/images/styles/RoyalFlush/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Irishpride1986http://badgerandblade.com/vb/images/styles/RoyalFlush/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread.php?p=4094884#post4094884)I was asking cause they come in contact with blood n even after
The blood has dried wat about what grows from that dried blood




Dried blood, dried skin cells, dried, whiskers, dried toe jam - it all is a breeding ground once it gets damp. You should clean anything that has the likelihood of cutting you - even if you are the only one using it.





~~~perusing this thread and just started thinking about my post shave razor cleaning routine


since I shave w/straight razors...they always get wiped with a wash cloth, stuck in my pocket while I clean up the rest of the sink (including washing my barber towel in the sink), anyways...the blade gets more hot water, wiped with my fingers, towel dried, sometimes I blow it all off with air pressure (out in the garage), the schales get wiped inbetween w/paper towel, the blade gets stropped on linen and then leather so it's dry...been doing it this way for a year, no skin problems

all the vintage blades (straights) I buy from the wild get buffed, honed, stropped...the only time I disenfect is when someone sends me a blade to hone for them, then it gets an alcohol wipe before I coat it with oil (the blade) so it doesn't micro chip, send it on it's way...then I tell them after wiping the oil off and washing the blade with liquid dish soap, to disenfect however they feel best about it, but straight razors I hone from the wild for myself...they're so clean after all of the buffing, polishing, honing......it doesn't concern me


Now when I was doing the DE and SE safety scene...all of my safeties went into a bath or sprayed down with Lysol after cleaning, but often times finding old safeties from the wild, some of those looked like they had 70+ years worth of soap scum on them (GEM Micromatics, a few I scored)...but all of the straights from the wild, if anything, the blades were rusted...so it seems to me even back in the day, the straight razor users were wiping their tools down, they just forgot to oil them:a13:



Best,


Jake
Reddick Fla.

closecut61
05-06-2012, 11:44 PM
+1 On The Barbicide~~Quick Splash & Your Good To Go