MWF Incredible!

[LeftyT]

I'm an Italian soft soap fan. I LOVE everything Proraso and it is my standard for soaps. I also love RazoRock (I've been fortunate enough to use 4 different types). The cacao produces the slickest lather I have ever used. So, here's where the kink gets thrown in... Today, I took out some MWF and thought, "Hell, let's go with an almost all English line-up today". I smushed the MWF into my mug, let my Wee Scot and the soap soak in warm/hot water while I conditioned my scruff with Proraso Pre Shave (the Italian contingent that I seem to need). I then proceeded to dump the water out of my mug and built up a lather right on top of the MWF. I went at it for about 1 solid minute and once I saw a wonderfully slick looking, yet light lather built up, I took it to my damp face. I face lathered until I had a Greek yogurt type of consistency, with the help of some extra drops of water on the tips of my brush. I had a great feeling about this shave and let me tell you, I was not disappointed! My Gillette Aristocrat Jr, loaded with 7 O'Clock blades just zipped across my face, with zero catching, sticking or roughness. Pass two, the lather was noticeably thinner, but even more cushiony with the same slickness. XTG - a resounding success! Pass three, I loaded up on the soap again, paintbrushed my face, ATG - seriously??? No snagging? Holy crap!!! All I can say is my face has never been this smooth and irritation free and I didn't even use after shave. How is this possible? I'm going to see if I can reproduce the same results with my Proraso next, but even I, a 100% supporter of all things Proraso, kind of doubt it. So, has anyone else employed this method for MWF, and if so, were you as floored as I was?

[Jcabbage]

Can't wait, my MWF should be here tommrrow or Wednesday! Have been getting great results from Tabac, my best shaves ever, but can't wait to try the Fat! I hope it lives up to this for me :turned:

[Dennard]

I don't use that exact method, but MWF has always been one of (if not my single) favourite soaps. I had my first shave from a brand new puck this weekend.

[InsecureSpike]

oh, i got some waiting here waiting to be used.....
this has gotta happen this week! looking so forward to it now!

thanks mate!

[LeftyT]

djh, thanks for fixing my title. It was an honest mistake :)

[Rjack]

what was the old title? Inedible?

[BrookR1]

I used it today and I think this is my absolute favorite hard soap. I purchased the ceramic dish and let the puck soak in hot water while I showered. I drained some water out and then took a brush to it. Almost effortless lathering. My face loved it. I followed up with Floid. It's been a good day.

[LeftyT]

Me thinks we've unearthed the secret to MWF. It isn't temperamental, it just wants to be a soft soap ;)

Rjack, I'm sure you could eat MWF, should you choose to. :D

[Optometrist]

One of the few remaining, well performing English soaps, unfortunately. My second favourite after D.R. Harris, another tallow containing English brand. Long live MWF......they daren't change this one!!!!

[Ruston]

+1 on the love affair with Italian soaps and MWF.

I saw a post recently where a fellow scooped a tub of Cella into a larger container and then smashed a puck of MWF into the center so the Cella squished up around the sides. Sounds like the best of both worlds and I'm itching to give it a try. :clap:

[LeftyT]

Now that has me thinking...maybe I'll combine MWF and Proraso shavings, mix them up, reform a "puck" and see how perfectly it performs!!!

[Kostas1]

It's all about the tallow. As someone said...who needs a no-fat soap? MWF is some bad-a$$ stuff!

[Clutch Cargo]

Personally, I think that MWF is one of the finest soaps on the planet.

[professorchaos]

Yes it is incredible. Yes it is.

[HornHiYo]

Anyone have issues with the lanolin in MWF? I didn't order it based on that fact; might have to opt for it now. I just ordered 2 creams and one soap (Provence Sante Green Tea). MWF is expensive!

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Anyone have issues with the lanolin in MWF? I didn't order it based on that fact; might have to opt for it now. I just ordered 2 creams and one soap (Provence Sante Green Tea). MWF is expensive!

Very few people actually have a reaction to lanolin based Products.
It is not expensive at all. One puck will last a minimum of 6 months of daily use. It is a huge, solid puck that just keeps on going.

[retiredguns]

Many of these soaps are good for a looooooong time so there is no need to skimp! Get enough good water in the mix and the shave will be very satisfying. A puck of MWF will last forever and a day so mush that wet brush on it and enjoy the baby butt soft skin and heavenly scent!

[truegreen]

It is not expensive at all. One puck will last a minimum of 6 months of daily use. It is a huge, solid puck that just keeps on going.

+1
Mine lasted almost a year and I think I still have at least 5 shaves left.
This stuff never ends, just like the energizer bunny it keeps going and going:scooter::scooter:....MWF is the greatest "value" soap out there(IMO).

[bkfist]

Anyone have issues with the lanolin in MWF? I didn't order it based on that fact; might have to opt for it now. I just ordered 2 creams and one soap (Provence Sante Green Tea). MWF is expensive!
MWF is only expensive if you are shopping either:
1. Amazon (ALL the vendors with MWF there are insane.)
2. Looking for the ceramic bowl with the soap, in which case there is an English vendor with a good price on the bowl & soap.

[JaDo]

+1
Mine lasted almost a year and I think I still have at least 5 shaves left.
This stuff never ends, just like the energizer bunny it keeps going and going:scooter::scooter:....MWF is the greatest "value" soap out there(IMO).


I have been using MWF exclusively for the past few months and have used my current puck for a little over 90 shaves. There is a large hole now in the puck at the bottom and I would estimate that there is about two weeks left of shave on it. To be clear, I have been using quite a bit of soap per shave.

It is - without a doubt - my favorite soap, from the scent to the performance, I think it's a stellar shaving soap and I will most certainly purchase more when I've finished this puck.

[Jcabbage]

Got my puck today opted to not get the ceramic bowl just tossed it in a tupperware container. Lathered easy for me on my test and i used my shavette for the first time just to try it out on my leg. Seems slick and cushiony. i will shave later tonight with it. :detective:

[LeftyT]

Nice! I'm glad this unknown is finally getting some press. :stuart: hahaha
I decided that the only area MWF is sort of lacking is in the scent department. Since its scent is so mild, I wanted to make it shine. I bought a small vial of Lavender Essential oil and another of Peppermint oil. Today, I Put two drops of the peppermint into my mug, and utilized the same method as yesterday. The result was, once again, incredible! It had the scent AND tingle I love, and the other great characteristics of MWF were still there. I'm thinking for night shaves I'll go lavender to further relax and in the morning I'll go peppermint to wake me up.

[cvac]

If you like peppermint try Thayer's Superhazel. Though not marketed as an AS, it's works great as one, IMHO.

[Jcabbage]

i think my lather was to wet for my shave today, maybe i will do another test lather with it tomorrow but i must say my skin feels really smooth! My 3 euro Rossmann brand brush can do a pretty good job. I tried to face lather when i shaved and earlier i did a test and bowl lathered. i think i got better results from the bowl, what do you guys like better?

[LeftyT]

I start at the bowl, and go to my face. If it was too wet, just loaf a bit more product and work it on your skin. It should wok like a charm!

[jepeck]

Totally Agree on how awesome MWF is. For me, it wasn't until I started using it with my Duke 2 Two band that I unlocked its true potential though.

[LeftyT]

Maybe it's a Simpson's thing. :)

[Viseguy]

Welcome to the Fat farm! :thumbup:

[oscarbowman]

I love this stuff. So much so I, on a daily basis, use the WMF hand soap. Nothing leaves my face as soft as this!

[Sunflake]

Oh great, something I have been wanting to try and now this thread. Close to the edge. BTW did you guys buy the ceramic MWF bowl or just put the puck in something else?

[jepeck]

Maybe it's a Simpson's thing. :)

I won't argue with you on that one. Let's just call it a wonderful marriage.

[Island Dreamer]

I'm one who's given it a meh in the past. Not that it didn't work well, it just left me somewhat flat. But I keep using it in my rotation, once every week or two and I have to admit, the more I use it, the more I like it. I milled mine into an OS mug but it's not the best method. I should have trimmed the circumference to make it fit rather than chop it up and press into place. It's mostly an appearance thing and after a week looks like a dried lake bed. I do like some others and put a splash of water on it while getting ready to shave (shower, etc.). Pour it off and use a somewhat dry brush to load (I hold it mostly upside down over my bowl and let the proto lather drip into it). Then I begin lathering and add more water as needed. It makes a very rich creamy lather and is really a superlative shaving soap. There are others as good (like vintage OS, PdP, Speick and Palmolive) but MWF has a certain something that makes it just great to use. The fragrance which I've somewhat panned in the past is definitely growing on me.

I find that I don't really *need* an aftershave but when I use something like I did today, it was witch hazel followed by Lubriderm 3 in 1.

I paid $14 for my puck and will definitely keep it in rotation if I ever use the current stash up. Lathering couldn't be easier with any boar or badger brush I tried with it. Like all other soaps, it's simply a matter of correct product to H20. If you're inexperienced, it might take you a few tries to get it to perform its best but it's really quite easy to correct if you messed up by adding a little more product to the brush or water as need be.

[Jcabbage]

paid 6 pounds for my puck without the bowl and stuck it in a tupperware thing. much to big for the puck but works fine, did another test lather today ABCs 2 times loading puck and a lot of time in the bowl but got so much thick fluffy lather, can't wait to use it again!

[arm017]

MWF makes me happy. I am glad you expanded your horizons.

[Jcabbage]

the scent is nothing to go crazy over, still love my Tabac but, this soap seems really nice. Also can't wait to get my Mama Bears too!

[Viseguy]

Oh great, something I have been wanting to try and now this thread. Close to the edge. BTW did you guys buy the ceramic MWF bowl or just put the puck in something else?

The MWF bowl is one of my favorite shaving accessories!

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[linguist]

It is best soap i've ever tried. I love the feeling of the smell of MWF

[Wilfredio]

It became my go-to soap as well. Really lovely, but I was wondering: I saw they also make a bath and shower gel. Anybody ever tried that?

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It became my go-to soap as well. Really lovely, but I was wondering: I saw they also make a bath and shower gel. Anybody ever tried that?

I have tried a few of their other products and I wasn't impressed at all. The shaving soap and the bath soap are absolute diamonds but the rest of the range is only so so. SWMBO likes the body lotion but it sets off my allergies so she can't use it when I'm around...she uses loccitane as that is nearly unscented.

[LeftyT]

I also mushed a milled blob into my mug. It works, but ain't pretty! It's also tied up my favourite mug, so last night when I used RR, I had to get creative. I loaded my brush, worked a partial lather in the lid and took that to my skin, working up a great face lather!
Here's a question-how does Kent's rebranded MWF stack up? Is it the exact same formula? I ask, because I can get it locally.

[ridnovir]

MWF was the first hard soap that I tried. I did not have any troubles wiping up a rich lether in my bowl. So do not hezitate to try it. It leaves your face mostirezed and rejuvinated, it has no harmfull ingreadients and I like the subtle yet plesant smell.

[gfdoto]

I'm not blown away by the scent but love everything else about this soap. Definitely slick and moisturizing.

[Island Dreamer]

On the scent, neither was I (blown away) at the start but it's really grown on me.

[rbaloha]

Tough to lather. Improved lather with over night soaking and super lathering.

[OldGreyGuy]

I'm not blown away by the scent but love everything else about this soap. Definitely slick and moisturizing.

I sometimes bowl lather MWF so I can add some Kiss My Face Lavender to it to get a better scent. However that is maybe one in three times I use it as more often I face lather. I must have good water as I don't seem to have a problem producing acceptable lather from it.

[InHotWater]

Mitchell's was the soap I learned to make lather with ( some soaps may seem easier to lather by comparison ). The scent is quite mild compared to lots of soaps out there, and I happen to like it. If you look at the cost for just the puck it is not the cheapest, nor the most expensive either. I have no complaints about it, and will continue to buy, and use it. :wink2:

[swcarter]

Anyone have issues with the lanolin in MWF? I didn't order it based on that fact; might have to opt for it now. I just ordered 2 creams and one soap (Provence Sante Green Tea). MWF is expensive!
Not me and judging by comments in this and other threads, not many do. MWV came to me late in the game when i decided I just had to try it. Wow! I love Poraso, Cella, Tabac to mention a few, MWF has become my "go to" quickly, especially in the winter. No need for ASB do to its moisturing properties. Balanced on feel, performance, smell, moisturizing and other properties, on balance, my favorite. This and Poraso will probably be tied as we head into summer - really like the zing of poraso. Once you clear the one-time cost of the ceramic mug (very nice), the cost of the puck alone is pretty reasonable. However, it lasts forever (5 mos on mine and barely a dent). YMMV.

[swcarter]

My experience too re Amazon. Ordered mine from Larry's and about a $6-7 difference.

[bkfist]

MWF was the first hard soap that I tried. I did not have any troubles wiping up a rich lether in my bowl. So do not hezitate to try it. It leaves your face mostirezed and rejuvinated, it has no harmfull ingreadients and I like the subtle yet plesant smell.

Not true... Several of the ingredients in MWF are listed because they are *required* by EU law to list them because they occur above a tiny fraction of a percentage point, even if they are simply a "component" of another "natural" item such as an essential oil. The reason for mandated listing of those ingredients are because they most definitely can cause harm/sensitivity to some people.

I'm about positive that limonene (
Known human immune system toxicant-National Library of Medicine HazMap ,Possible human immune system toxicant-EU Banned and Restricted Fragrances,

Limited evidence of immune system toxicity-European Union Classification & Labelling)
, linalool (I'll let you look the rest of these up), Hydroxycitronella, Hexyl Cinnamal and Alpha-Isomethyl Ionone fall under EU/IRFA regulations on labeling/use/concentrations because of the possibility of sensitivity/toxicological reactions and allergic reactions.

Please do not mislead someone who might be Googling information on MWF (or any other other soap or product) into thinking that MWF or any other soap or product is all "natural" or "safe" for them without first doing some research on the ingredients.

In truth, MWF is probably much closer to the "probably going to cause a reaction on your skin" than to the "good for you" end of the scale... In fact I'd guess it's well above the 50th percentile when it comes to "potentially bad for you" as compared to other soaps.... People always blame the lanolin in MWF for skin reactions, the fact is, there are half a dozen items in the soap that can cause skin problems for some people, the least of which is likely to be the lanolin.

(All that said, I don't have a problem with MWF, and I use it and like it.... Just don't mislead people with false statements.)

[London_shaver]

I bought this soap after posting in this forum about a recommended second soap, this was the most mentioned.

Ive only had a couple of shaves with it and have to say its excellent. I didn't follow the recommended lathering technique on my first lathering attempt but on the third go I did and the results were amazing. I used mantic's video as a guide and it did the trick.

The scent as mentioned is non existent IMHO compared to my gft violet but the shave, lubrication and moisturising are second to none.

[magicman22]

i can't stop using my MWF!!! not much of a rotation when its always MWF Day!!!

[stevesteve]

A think a guess that MWF would be above the 50th percentile when it comes "potentially bad for you" is somewhat misleading, or at least rather confusing, could you explain what numeric method you are using to compare the soaps ?

[InsecureSpike]

I had my first Michell's Wool Fat shave last nite, I must admit it was a very nice shave, with no irritation at all,
I finished off with Tayers Witch Hazel & Lemon

[bkfist]

A think a guess that MWF would be above the 50th percentile when it comes "potentially bad for you" is somewhat misleading, or at least rather confusing, could you explain what numeric method you are using to compare the soaps ?
Look at various soap ingredients from say 20 random soaps, and at the number of potentially allergic items in them (and by potentially allergic inducing I mean those recognized to the extent by regulatory agencies that require those ingredients to be listed separately as those I mentioned in the MWF ingredient list.)

I doubt you will find many soaps at all that have as many, and/or highly listed in the ingredient list - and hence as high of a percentage of the product - as you do with MWF.

Going by those criteria, MWF is *probably* above the 90th percentile... I watch ingredients pretty closely in my products, so am at least familiar with various soap ingredient lists. (I'm not "watching out" for any of the particular ones I mentioned in MWF, though.)

[acissa]

I love Italian soaps as well - Proraso green and white, razorock and cella being in my regular rotation - but MWF is something special. Excellent soap. For me personally, I prefer it in the winter.

[stevesteve]

Look at various soap ingredients from say 20 random soaps, and at the number of potentially allergic items in them (and by potentially allergic inducing I mean those recognized to the extent by regulatory agencies that require those ingredients to be listed separately as those I mentioned in the MWF ingredient list.)

That's an interesting approach. I do something similar myself being as my skin reacts badly to almost everything. It doesn't react badly to MWF thankfully. I fear the flaw in the approach of totting up the number of potential irritants is that not all irritants are created equal and the distribution of them is not necessarily proportional.

This is probably most evident by the fact that of all the threads on the forum discussing MWF there are very few respondents who state they have a bad reaction to MWF and the primary complaint is to a single ingredient, namely lanolin.

All the same, I'd still be interested to see you tabulate your data, I have only amassed such information on the half dozen soaps I have used myself so far.

[cryhavoc]

Look at various soap ingredients from say 20 random soaps, and at the number of potentially allergic items in them (and by potentially allergic inducing I mean those recognized to the extent by regulatory agencies that require those ingredients to be listed separately as those I mentioned in the MWF ingredient list.)

I doubt you will find many soaps at all that have as many, and/or highly listed in the ingredient list - and hence as high of a percentage of the product - as you do with MWF.

Going by those criteria, MWF is *probably* above the 90th percentile... I watch ingredients pretty closely in my products, so am at least familiar with various soap ingredient lists. (I'm not "watching out" for any of the particular ones I mentioned in MWF, though.)
Brian- How does Mike's Natural Soaps stack up with MWF?

[Gilded]

Brian- How does Mike's Natural Soaps stack up with MWF?
I'd like to hear thoughts on this as well. MWF is one of my favorites.

[bkfist]

That's an interesting approach. I do something similar myself being as my skin reacts badly to almost everything. It doesn't react badly to MWF thankfully. I fear the flaw in the approach of totting up the number of potential irritants is that not all irritants are created equal and the distribution of them is not necessarily proportional.

This is probably most evident by the fact that of all the threads on the forum discussing MWF there are very few respondents who state they have a bad reaction to MWF and the primary complaint is to a single ingredient, namely lanolin.

All the same, I'd still be interested to see you tabulate your data, I have only amassed such information on the half dozen soaps I have used myself so far.

The problem with those who have "reactions" to MWF is that they *assume* it is the lanolin, and as far as adverse reactions, MWF ranks right up there... About the only soap I see nearly as many complaints about over the years are some of the Italian soaps, and that is usually "attributed" to the artificial almond scent that is common among them. (I've had problems with every Italian "almond" soap I've tried, regardless of manufacturer... Although, to be honest I stopped even trying almond scented soaps after about the 4th one.)

As to the "distribution" of potential irritants, those actually CAN be roughly judged by their place in the ingredient list of any soap, as those ingredients must be listed in order from highest to lowest percentages (I'd assume that is by weight, not volume, but don't quote me.)

Certainly if you aren't sensitive to a (possible) irritant, the fact that it's included in a product is a moot point. (I have no reactions to any of the ingredient in MWF, at least a the concentrations in MWF and/or the time it is in contact with my skin... And I'd hazard to guess neither do 98% of other people.)

My original response, however, was to the statement that there were no harmful ingredients in MWF, and that is patently false, and both the number of individual "potentially irritation/sensitizing" ingredients, AND their relatively high placement of some of them in the ingredient list puts the "possibility" of problems with this soap higher than most other shaving soap ingredient lists. Lanolin is what is "touted" as the "magical ingredient" in this soap, the "possibly sensitive to lanolin" gets parroted, and everyone just assume's lanolin is the culprit.

A fairly detailed study of lanolin contact dermatitis in the general population was conducted by Clark in 1975 putting the incidence between 1.46 to 8.75 people per MILLION.
Or, in other words... 0.000146 to 0.000875% of the population.
(My Reference:
Clark EW. Estimation of the general incidence of specific lanolin allergy. J Soc Cosmet Chem 1975;26:323–35)

When contact patches with 30% to 40% lanolin are applied to skin, many studies show upwards of 2% of people sensitive to those kinds of concentrations, but Clark's study was done in real-world concentrations/usage. MWF's lanolin concentration is ***FAR FAR*** lower than 30%, probably closer to 1/20 of that.

With the hand-full of other possibly sensitizing agents, lanolin alone is not likely the culprit in those who can not handle MWF on their skin.

Might be interesting for you to read the MSDS sheets for each of the substances... see which ones are listed as "extremely hazardous" for things like eye contact (limonene for one).

Again, I'm NOT trying to detract from MWF in any way... I like it, I use it, I'll buy a replacement when it's gone.

[rajagra]

MWF seems to give my skin a healthy glow, as well as making it soft. Some people might call that a reaction. I call it a bonus, given my pasty British complexion.

[bkfist]

Brian- How does Mike's Natural Soaps stack up with MWF?

Ingredient wise, for sensitivities? I don't see anything listed, however that would depend on the fragrance, and the EO used. Lavender oil has a lot of limonene in it. (I never said or indicated that the possible allergens in MWF were "un-natural")

If you are talking performance wise, I don't see much similarity between the two products... Both produce very good lather, but very different IMHO. Mike's Natural gives a more creamy somewhat slimy lather (in the two times I've used it - still trying to dial it in) I think the lather (for me in soft water) is due to a realtivly high glycerin content in the soap. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say the glycerin content is pretty high in Mike's soaps, probably upwards of 10%... (It is NOT even close to a "melt & pour" soap, though, either in chemistry or feel/performance.) Just feels that way to me with the limited "playing" I've done recently with some glycerin I got from the store and soaps with little or no added glycerin I've added it to in various amounts. (I've got to say, I don't know why those people who advocate "uber lathers" do so... Maybe it's a hard water thing.)

[dundak]

(I've got to say, I don't know why those people who advocate "uber lathers" do so... Maybe it's a hard water thing.)

I have always wondered that myself. Maybe because it gives a larger margin of error when bowl lathering. i.e harder to break your lather.

MWF is a good soap, but agree with you on it being one of the most additive laden soaps after Proraso Green

[linguist]

Lather is ok with the bowl. I use hot and soft water. it produces good lather just like other soaps.

[Jcabbage]

Did a combination test lather with Tabac and MWF today. I think i have not been using enough water recently. Loaded MWF for about 30 seconds swirled in a bowl for about 30 seconds and emptied the brush into the bowl, then i re wet my brush and went to the Tabac for about 15 seconds and swirled in the bowl with MWF for about 45 seconds. still seems like there should be more lather so i re wet my brush (this time really wet) and went to the tabac again for about 15 seconds. What i was getting from the Tabac the 2nd time was really bubbly and wet looking but i took it to the bowl anyway and the results were really good. i think i had enough lather to last about 5 or more passes and it seemed to hold up really well. This was just a test lather because i was bored but i will try it again tonight or tomorrow when i shave again!

[LeftyT]

MWF is a good soap, but agree with you on it being one of the most additive laden soaps after Proraso Green

This is really interesting to me, because you just named the two soaps I find the most appealing in use. Proraso will be in my drawer until the end and MWF just might be alongside it.
I don't get too concerned with the additive element, but maybe this is because I haven't had to (knock on wood).

[Seraphim]

Who cares about additives? You're shaving with it, not eating it.

[Dusty1]

Who cares about additives? You're shaving with it, not eating it.


I agree. Ever look at the list of crap in your shampoo? I stopped using bleach around the house a few years back and wow, what a difference. You won't believe how desensitized you get to it over time.

[LeftyT]

Let's hear it for additives!

[Seraphim]

Let's hear it for additives!

Exactly!

Like a glass of plain tonic water....who likes that?



But add in some additives in the form of some gin and a slice of lime, and now you've really got something!



Two slices of bread.......blah!


But stack up some roast beef, lettuce, tomatoes, mustard and mayo additives in there, and viola! Pure tastiness!

[bkfist]

For me, it makes a lot of difference WHAT the "additives" are. With a few exceptions if I'm not sensitive to it, it doesn't matter to me if a particular naturally occurring chemical is in a product or not, as is the case with MWF.. I'm not sensitive to the ingredients, therefore I use it. In fact, I just shaved with MWF this morning for the first time in 2 1/2 months. It was a great comfortable shave with absolutely no irritation. Actually I also showered with MWF bath soap.

My only wish were if both of those products came in either an unscented or different scented choice... While I love the soap, the scent is pretty meh.

(BTW - some of the chemicals such as limolene & linalool have to be listed by EU standards, even if they are simply the natural components of EO of Lavender, if they reach a certain threshold. Since MWF is NOT a lavender scented product, I'm sure those individual chemicals were added in their pure form, and not listed simply because enough Lavender EO was put in the soap to reach those labeling requirements, but that might be the case with some soaps & other preparations that have those listed. Another note, many chemicals have different labeling requirements depending on if the product is intended to be washed/rinsed off, than if they are intended to be left on the skin. A soap, for example, can have a much higher concentration of potential sensitizing agents, than say a hand or face cream.)

[jmsodpc]

I made a frankensoap with my mwf sample and my klar kabinett sample.

Quite nice.