Simpsons Chubby 2

[revschuette]

I recently purchased a Simpson Chubby 2 in best. I have only used it twice with MWF. I have found myself having troubles face lathering with it. I have a chubby 1 and that seems to work better. The issue I'm having is when face lathering, it seems as if I just can't get enough lather to last through a 3 pass shave. Now I know you're probably going to tell me to use more product, and the second time I did load more onto the brush, but maybe still not enough. I have the ceramic soap container that comes with the MWF so loading the brush for a longer period of time simply gets messy, maybe I need to put the puck in a deeper mug. I do find however that when I rinse out the brush, squeezing gently, (chubby 2), there seems to be a lot of soap in the brush. Any advice or thoughts would be great. The brush itself looks awesome and feels awesome on the face, but the lathering issue is giving me some trouble. Thanks in advance!!

[cessnabird]

The bigger and denser the brush, the more product you will need to generate a proper lather. MWF is especially hard therefore requires even more loading time than you might think. I usually load Trumpers Rose (my favorite soap) for a minute or so with my CH2, and I end up with enough lather for several passes. You may have to gently squeeze the bottom of the knot to extract some more creamy lather. Keep loading soap with different times/water ratios and you will eventually find your sweet spot.

[Icebear]

Definately : Use EVEN More product ....:lol::lol::lol:
I have the same brush and have the same issues. Once you have r e a l l y loaded that brush to have enough lather for 3 passes you easily have enough for eight.

[Reckoner]

I have a Chubby 1 that I just got used to, and it requires more product AND water than I was used to with the Duke 3. If you think you have enough product, make sure you haven't flicked out/dripped out too much water.

[Cyril]

Give it the new brush dish washing liquid treatment. May be it will improve the brush.

[revschuette]

Well, next time I will load even more product and watch the amount of water I leave in the brush. I know with MWF it is always said to load with a drier brush, but that is realative to the brush. I am thinking about getting a deeper mug than the ceramic bowl as while one is loading, especially for a lengthier time, it tends to flow over the edges of the ceramic bowl.

[vegasvics]

Do you have a different product you can try to compare? Might help you rule in/out the brush

[revschuette]

Do you have a different product you can try to compare? Might help you rule in/out the brush

Yes, I have other soaps, I have Tabac and the three larger pucks from Col. Conk. I will have to try the chubby out on those as well.

[cessnabird]

The dry loading method as hailed by many seems to be the best way for most people to lather it. However, Brucered has a video on You Tube wet loading or as some people refer to it as "Marco's method", and his lather from MWF comes out perfect. It can work either way. As stated before, lots of soap and lots of water make Chubbies very happy!





Well, next time I will load even more product and watch the amount of water I leave in the brush. I know with MWF it is always said to load with a drier brush, but that is realative to the brush. I am thinking about getting a deeper mug than the ceramic bowl as while one is loading, especially for a lengthier time, it tends to flow over the edges of the ceramic bowl.

[jochums]

use more product and more warm water when face lathering....and when i say more water i mean face lather for a bit, add a bit more warm water to the brush, face lather again, add a bit more water, face lather again, and repeat until you whip up a good lather

[GreekGuy]

I had the same problem.

First: Use more product. You really have to load it

Second: It takes time to break in. Mine performed mediocre at best for nearly 2 months. Then all of a sudden it felt like it really opened up. The flow through improved, it stopped losing as many hairs, and it seemed to make lather much easier.

These brushes are very very dense. The densest of all simpsons. They take some time to break in, but the wait is worth it

[MaxP]

I second the suggestion to try a different product and see what outcome you get.

MWF can be temperamental IMHO.

[revschuette]

I second the suggestion to try a different product and see what outcome you get.

MWF can be temperamental IMHO.

I certainly understand the issues that some have with MWF, although I have been using it for about 3 months already, using a chubby 1 and a vulfix 2233 and have had no issues. I will try it with other soaps of course, but I'm not so sure it has to do with the soap itself. I think its just a lernig curve for me to learn as it is by fay a thicker, denser brush. I curently have nothingelse like it. I do want to thank you all for the insight. I will see how it goes next time.

[turtle]

This is why I like the Duke 2 for face lathering. Not as much brush to eat up the soap/cream. Bigger ain't always better...

Load heavily, when you think you have too much, load some more......

[Doc4]

http://hedweb.com/animimag/pig.jpg
You, my friend, have purchased a "Lather Hog".

It needs a lot of water, to be happy, and a lot of "product" in that water ...

http://thepigpreserve.org/the_preserve_pig.jpg

You have to take your time, slowly turning it over an open fire ...

http://www.bohol.ph/pics/large/lechon.jpg

... er, I mean puck of soap, but once you get it right, your shave is "done like dinner".!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3519/3748575370_a5dab77ef9.jpg

Th-thee, th-thee, th-th-that's all, folks!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L2QTgX7oNKo/TGw5ekco8EI/AAAAAAAAADs/7U8VN5uXVZ0/s1600/Porky_pig_thats_all_folks.jpg

[Reckoner]

Th-thee, th-thee, th-th-that's all, folks!

Well done, Doc!
:laugh:

[CFSoto]

I recently purchased a Simpson Chubby 2 in best. I have only used it twice with MWF. I have found myself having troubles face lathering with it. I have a chubby 1 and that seems to work better. The issue I'm having is when face lathering, it seems as if I just can't get enough lather to last through a 3 pass shave. Now I know you're probably going to tell me to use more product, and the second time I did load more onto the brush, but maybe still not enough. I have the ceramic soap container that comes with the MWF so loading the brush for a longer period of time simply gets messy, maybe I need to put the puck in a deeper mug. I do find however that when I rinse out the brush, squeezing gently, (chubby 2), there seems to be a lot of soap in the brush. Any advice or thoughts would be great. The brush itself looks awesome and feels awesome on the face, but the lathering issue is giving me some trouble. Thanks in advance!!

I suggest you use quite a bit more cream. The very dense Chubbies(2 and 3),really use up a lot more product,at least for me.But they are great anyway !

Craig

[mrmotley]

The Chubbies are my favorite brushes but I will admit that it has taken me some time to understand how to use them. This may sound odd, but I've spent the last year learning how to hone straights and I think that learning to hone has helped my ability to build lather. More than anything, I now rely on how the brush "feels" when loading and the interaction between it and the soap to tell me when I need more water.

For starters, I would do as MaxP suggested and use another soap. MWF can be temperamental. Try something easy like a DR Harris soap or Tabac.

My CH2 and CH3 in Best are some of my regulars, the former for face lathering soaps and the latter for bowl lathering creams. My approach to both brushes is the same and works well for me. I actually start with a fairly "dry" brush. By "dry" I mean I have run the brush under warm water and thoroughly soaked it, then soaked just the tips (not the base of the knot) in warm water while I shower. Yet before I start lathering, I squeeze most of the water out. Notably, I also leave a thin layer of warm water on top of my soap to soften it while showering.

When I am ready to lather, I give the brush a gentle shake and a squeeze to get most of the water out. This is really what I mean by "dry." Not dry, but relatively less wet than some folks I suppose. I find that these Chubbies can hide a lot of water in the base of the knot, which is great for later in the process but makes a huge foamy mess early in the process and hinders loading.

As I said, I start with a fairly "dry" brush and start loading. I use light pressure - I don't cram the brush into the soap - which prevents the soap from being pushed farther into the knot. At first the brush really feels like it is scraping the soap and I let it do so because I know its loading. The absence of excessive water prevents excessive foamy useless lather from developing and ensures that the brush tips are getting loaded with lots of soft soap that will "multiply" and burst into lather once the right amount of water is added later on. When the scraping feeling starts giving way to a slicker feeling, I know the tips are getting quite loaded with soap. At this point, I quickly sweep the loaded brush tips under the faucet or dip them lightly in the same vessel in which I soaked the brush and go back to lathering. You could also use your off hand to trickle a few drops into your lathering "field."

The goal here is to titrate the addition of water until the brush literally explodes. When the right amount of water has been added, you'll know. The brush will literally explode with lather. The best part of this method is that the tips are relatively wet while the base of the knot is relatively dry. This prevents the lather from being pushed into the base of the knot and thus the sequestering of lather. When I'm done, I have a mushroom cloud of lather on the top of my brush that extends maybe halfway into the knot. I can still see the roots of the knot that have been untouched by lather.

I will admit that this process seems longwinded, but once you get to know the brush you'll know how much water to add and be able to add it more quickly. I do think with these very dense brushes that it is almost impossible to retain the appropriate amount of water in the brush before you start building lather. I've tried to prejudge how much water I'll need up front, and it always ends up being too much or too little. I've found the only way to get it just right is to start relatively dry and titrate.

I will also say that these dense brushes will use up your soap or cream more quickly, but that's the nature of the beast. I do use this method for creams, too.

Here's a photo of my CH2 and CH3 in best all lathered up with Arlington soap. Note that much soap was "harmed" in the process of making this photo.

[fvelosa]

Great advice. I used my Chubby 2 for alomost 2 months and till yesterday I was very disapointed due the lack of good and enough lather. I followed the instructions this morning and what a surprise I had. Better on everything, more and better lather, the brush did not drag all the lather into the base of the knot. I always use cream and I prefer to face lather, I know there still being place for improvment but after several weeks of disapoinments, today was a great day.

If you have any other tip for face shaving with cream, wil be highly appreciated.


Thanks,


Felipe

[fvelosa]

Face lather with cream, sorry.