Shave talc?

[AJS]

Does anybody here use talc as part of their aftershave routine? Any opinions on the benefits or disadvantages of using shave talc?
Regards,
AJS

[With The Grain]

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[Kyle]

I use it quite frequently and really enjoy it. The benefits are:
It does a great job of reducing shine (as mentioned above).
If your face is a little bit raw, it is actually pretty soothing.
It is fantastic when wearing a collared shirt and tie.

So far, I have not found any disadvantages. One small pointer, make sure that your face is dry before application, especially if you've used a product that is a little bit tacky (like aloe, corn husker lotion, skin food, etc).

[crackstar]

Unfortunately I can't use any kind of talc because it chokes me. Even a small amount, and I can't breathe.

Jeff

[Kyle]

You're not supposed to eat it.:biggrin:

[crackstar]

:lol: :lol:

Jeff

[roughrider]

In case you do eat it, drink a glass a water. That should help. :biggrin:

[AJS]

Just out of curiousity, how does shave talc differ from 'regular' talc?
Warm regards,
AJS

[finegelernt]

There is a lot of evidence that talc is a carcinogen. Chemically it is closely related to asbestos and it is not a good idea to inhale it. Especially every day after shaving.

I get razor burn all the time and talc often helps to get rid of it virtually overnight but in your place I would definitely switch to baby corn starch which works just as well if not better, and not as harmful.

[Kyle]

There is a lot of evidence that talc is a carcinogen. Chemically it is closely related to asbestos and it is not a good idea to inhale it. Especially every day after shaving.

I get razor burn all the time and talc often helps to get rid of it virtually overnight but in your place I would definitely switch to baby corn starch which works just as well if not better, and not as harmful.
The info found at this site (http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/content/CRI_2_6x_Talcum_Powder_and_Cancer.asp?sitearea=) would seem to indicate that while in it's natural form, talc may contain asbestos, certainly no talc sold in products for in-home use will contain any. You should probably be more concerned about all those harmful rays coming off of the computer screen as you read this post.:tongue_sm

[finegelernt]

The end of the article says:

"Until additional information is available about the safety of talc use, people who use powder may wish to consider avoiding these products or substituting cornstarch-based powders that contain no talc. There is no evidence at present linking cornstarch powders with any form of cancer"

It is true that evidence of talc harmful effects is not conclusive but talc producers were required to purify it to remove any form of asbestos. Why take chances and worry about how well various manufacturers do their job of getting rid of various minerals present in talc? I doubt this is a very well regulated industry. Where there is smoke there is fire - so why not use J&J cornstarch that has never been named a suspect.

As for computer screen, for the past several years I have been using LCD screens for everything (convincing my employer to give me an LCD is a different story).
Radiation from CRT monitor would give anyone a razor burn.:smile:

[Kyle]

Call me a risk taker. I will continue to live on the ragged edge of sanity and defiantly shoot plumes of talc dust in my bathroom on a daily basis.:tongue:

[DoubleE]

:a23:

It goes ON your nose guys!

[Flounder]

Ahem back on topic

Now when applying talc do you use a brush or just hands... and if a brush, what kind of brush do you use.

Flounder thanks you for your help

[Kyle]

Ahem back on topic

Now when applying talc do you use a brush or just hands... and if a brush, what kind of brush do you use.

Flounder thanks you for your help
I have been using just hands but have been looking for a brush. I originally thought that a long bristled barber's brush would be nice, but now I'm not so sure that a shorter bristled cosmetics brush might not be better (like a rouge brush).

[rtaylor61]

Kyle,

Do you mean a Neck Duster (http://www.bowmanbeauty.com/store/shop.mvc?page=BBS/PROD/2-12000/292421)?

Here's an off the wall thought...what damage could occur if you were to use one of your many shaving brushes to apply talc to the face?

Randy

[Tony Miller]

Guys, half of the barbershop talc effect is wasted if you don't use the traditional Wm. Marvy Horsehair nech duster. Pinauld's Talc is the one to get and has that hard to forget old time barbershop scent.


I few months ago I was at my leather supplier buying hides for strops. I was going to go across towm and get a haircut but saw a little unisex type place next door and tried it on a lark. Once done the hairdresser pulled out the Pinauld's Talc and the wooden handled Marvey duster and gave me a good powdering. I was in heaven, my usual place never does that. My mind was instantly transformed back to my childhood when Dad would take me to the barber and he used that stuff. I commented on it to the hairdresser and a woman in the next chair said "I don't know what that stuff is called but you sure smell good". Well, I stopped at Sally Beauty supply, got the talc and a Marvy duster and $14 later I was all set. It is part of my daily routine now (as is the new hair place, every few weeks).

Tony

[Kyle]

Yes indeed, gents. The horsehair neck duster is exactly what I was referring to, and thank you for naming the item for me. It is hard to locate an item when you don't know what it is called. It looks like I'll be heading to the nearest Sally Beauty Supply to score one of these dandies!

[rtaylor61]

Kyle,

Thanks for bringing it up, and Tony, thanks for mentioning Sally's. I have the talc...now...the brush!

Randy

[Flounder]

Awesome... but I gotta stop spending money on shaving supplies... otherwise my credit card wont forgive me and I'm on a students budget

[Kyle]

No worries, John. This is a talcing supply not a shaving supply.

[Tony Miller]

Marvey actually makes two styles that are wood handled (we won't speak of the lexan super duster here). One is not quite as fancy but has a flat botom handle so the brush can be stood on end. The prettier one must be hung or laid on it's side.

The should retail for around $10 or so.

Tony

[khari]

I have the Marvy neck duster. I was so excited when I ordered it, so you can imagine my disappointment when I realized it didn't work well for me. I thought the hairs were to flimsy didn't do a good job of dusting the powder around, and the horse hairs fall out by the dozen.

While sitting in the barber chair yesterday, I had an idea that corresponds with Randy's. Why not use an omega boar bristle brush? The bristles are a bit stiffer and more densely packed, so it might work better. I wouldn't want to get the powder in any of my badger brushes, but the boar bristle is a more viable option.

[Cutthroat]

What about a goat hair brush from Marvy? Looks like there is more hair and in a denser pattern but you wouldnt have to worry about your more expensive badger.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Marvy-75-Goathair-Neck-Duster-Salon-Barber-Body-Brush_W0QQitemZ9518042950QQcategoryZ11840QQssPageN ameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[fisherc]

I too remember, as a kid, having my local barber apply Pinaud talc with a Marvy horse hair brush to the back of my neck after a haircut. My question is how exactly do you do this yourself in the AM after a shave ? Do you do it in the shower to avoid a mess on the bathroom floor ? Do you apply it only to the neck area (both back and front) ?

Chris

[khari]

Talc is the last thing I apply. I give my face time to dry after applying A/S or sealer or moisturizer, then I apply it to the neck area. My barber always put a bit onto the top of the brush bristles then gave the handle of the brush a light tap or two onto the counter. Talc is easy to clean up so I don't concern myself with getting a little on the floor.

Cutthroat,
That brush looks like it might do the trick. Anyone tried it?

[Kyle]

As a young man, I used to get a flat-top every summer. My barber would do as khari suggests (load bristles and tap base on counter), and then brush my neck, forehead, and face.

[finegelernt]

I just read that baking soda is an excellent remedy for razor burn. You make a paste by mixing about 2 parts baking soda to 1 part water and dab the resulting mixture on the affected areas of the face.

It also works for acne and restores the Ph balance of the skin.
Has anyone tried baking soda instead of talk ?

[rtaylor61]

I just read that baking soda is an excellent remedy for razor burn. You make a paste by mixing about 2 parts baking soda to 1 part water and dab the resulting mixture on the affected areas of the face.

It also works for acne and restores the Ph balance of the skin.
Has anyone tried baking soda instead of talk ?

I've brushed my teeth with "salt and soda", but never tried it for razor burn. Here's hoping I never need to!

Randy

[Kyle]

I've never tried this for razor burn, but have made a poultice with it to treat a wasp sting.

[Kyle]

OK, gents. I went to Sally Beauty this morning (yes, it was a little bit emasculating) and grabbed up the Marvy Stand Up Neck Duster. (http://www.sallybeauty.com/shop/7500/292421) Man, am I disappointed. It sheds like a mangy cat and instead of "dusting" the talc on, it just threw it in the air. If any of you have had a good experience with this thing, I would like to hear about it.

The quest will continue. I am considering the J&D Beautopia Neck Duster (http://www.sallybeauty.com/shop/7500/152102), though it is about as big as a hog's leg. It's bristles are similar to those in a ladies rouge brush. Anyhow, I'll keep you guys informed.

[Tony Miller]

Maybe they changed the way they made these or something. Mine has shed narry a hair in the past 6 months and I love it. I do wish it was a bit more dense but it works for me.

I hold it with bristles up, shake a little powder onto the bristles and powder away. The key is very little talc or one will have a huge mess. My hairstylist does it the same way except she hold the bristles together a bit with her hand when powdering it to concentrate the talc in the center of the brush.


(Kyle, I'm trying to imagine that avatar pic with your childhood flattop <g>)

Tony

[stropmegently]

I had the little badger brush from AOS, the one that comes with the sampler kit, and I use that to apply the talc. I find it works really well and I don't lose a great deal of talc. I have read and heard about the talc and cancer stuff and well, like Kyle, I will live dangerously I guess :w00t:

Darren

[guenron]

I had the little badger brush from AOS, the one that comes with the sampler kit, and I use that to apply the talc. I find it works really well and I don't lose a great deal of talc. I have read and heard about the talc and cancer stuff and well, like Kyle, I will live dangerously I guess :w00t:

Darren
Darren,
I really do believe that those forms of talcum (asbestoform?) linked to various lung-centered cancers have been eliminated from the market place. :mellow:

[mr_economy]

Darren,
I really do believe that those forms of talcum (asbestoform?) linked to various lung-centered cancers have been eliminated from the market place. :mellow:

Yes, basically any talc-based product made today for cosmetics use will contain non-asbestiform talc, which the FDA considers "Generally Recognized as Safe".

[khari]

Just a follow up to my previous post. I now use the Omega boar bristle to dispense talc. The bristles are stiff enough to move the talc so it covers my face and neck evenly, and they are no more expensive than the Marvy neck dusters.

[AlanL]

The study filed at the National Institutes of Health (http://www.ntp.niehs.nih.gov/?objectid=0709BB4D-D4A2-78A0-F519C6ABAF22CDC1) that dissed talc, forced rats to inhale talc "for 6 hours per day, 5 days per week for up to 113 weeks (males) or 122 weeks (females)" . . . "until mortality in any exposure group reached 80%." In other words, they forced the rats to inhale enough talc to kill them (which took an amazingly long time — over two years) and then concluded that talc was dangerous. They OD'ed rats on powder, then tried to determine what killed them.

A subsequent study filed at the NIH (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12383717) concludes that the first study is faulty for several reasons, and gives further evidence of consumer talc's safety. Its abstract summarizes, "There is no credible evidence of a cancer risk from inhalation of cosmetic talc by humans."

If offsetting reports leave an ambiguous conclusion, there certainly is no smoking gun here.

[TxPhoto09]

I'm a little surprised that nobody in this thread has mentioned that they have a boar (or badger or horse or synthetic) vintage brush they bought to restore, and are willing to try that for talc application. It's the first thing that popped into my head, and -- since I have a couple or three awaiting restoration -- I'll try it as soon as I put my hands on some talc.

Phil

[bythbook]

I'm a little surprised that nobody in this thread has mentioned that they have a boar (or badger or horse or synthetic) vintage brush they bought to restore, and are willing to try that for talc application. It's the first thing that popped into my head, and -- since I have a couple or three awaiting restoration -- I'll try it as soon as I put my hands on some talc.

Phil


http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr274/bythbook/110609brushes2.jpg?t=1282946278

the brush on the left is my talc brush - for point of reference, the battery is a D-cell. No restoration necessary!

[theperfectstorm]

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr274/bythbook/110609brushes2.jpg?t=1282946278

the brush on the left is my talc brush - for point of reference, the battery is a D-cell. No restoration necessary!

I dunno, dude. The battery looks really dense, but also really scritchy. Great handle...but...

[bythbook]

I dunno, dude. The battery looks really dense, but also really scritchy. Great handle...but...

ya gotta moisten it first, then roll it in the talc.... Keep it out of your nose, for safety - and roll it all over your face.

Feels great, esp. if you keep the battery in the freezer overnight.

Tried it w/ a 9-volt, but it didn't seem to roll right.

[solar]

I bought a horse hair neck brush, so I can best dust the neck with Pinaud.

$15, so not so bad.



Chris